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Q1 2025 Earnings Call· Thu, May 1, 2025

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Operator

Operator

Welcome to the Columbia Sportswear First Quarter 2025 Financial Results Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. [Operator Instructions] Please note, this conference is being recorded. I will now turn the conference over to your host, Andrew Burns. You may begin.

Andrew Burns

Analyst

Good afternoon and thanks for joining us to discuss Columbia Sportswear Company's first quarter results. In addition to the earnings release, we furnished an 8-K containing a detailed CFO commentary and financial review presentation explaining our results. This document is also available on our Investor Relations website, investor.columbia.com. With me today on the call are Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer, Tim Boyle; Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Jim Swanson; and Executive Vice President and Chief Administrative Officer and General Counsel, Peter Bragdon. This conference call will contain forward-looking statements regarding Columbia's expectations, anticipations or beliefs about the future. These statements are expressed in good faith and are believed to have a reasonable basis. However, each forward-looking statement is subject to many risks and uncertainties, and actual results may differ materially from what is projected. Many of these risks and uncertainties are described in Columbia's SEC filings. We caution that forward-looking statements are inherently less reliable than historical information. We do not undertake any duty to update any of the forward-looking statements after the date of this conference call to conform the forward-looking statements to actual results or to changes in our expectations. I'd also like to point out that we -- during the call, we may reference certain non-GAAP financial measures, including constant currency net sales. For further information about non-GAAP financial measures and results, including a reconciliation of GAAP to non-GAAP measures and an explanation of management's rationale for referencing these non-GAAP measures, please refer to the supplemental financial information section and financial tables included in our earnings release and the appendix of our CFO commentary and financial review. Following our prepared remarks, we will host a Q&A period during which we will limit each caller to two questions, so we can get to everyone by the end of the hour. Now, I'll turn the call over to Tim.

Tim Boyle

Analyst

Thanks, Andrew, and good afternoon, everyone. First quarter net sales and earnings exceeded our guidance range. Globally, our wholesale business was better than planned, driven by late season demand for winter products and early spring product shipments. Our business outside of North America, which represents approximately 40% of annual sales remain strong. During the quarter, we generated healthy growth in nearly all of our international markets with double-digit percent growth in the LAAP region and high single-digit percent constant currency growth in the EMEA region. Before the April 2nd tariff increases were announced, our solid first quarter performance put us on track to achieving our full year targets. I'd like to begin this call by outlining our view on global trade and our plans to mitigate the impacts associated with the recent U.S. tariff increases. Let me start by stressing the unprecedented level of public policy uncertainty that our industry is facing in the United States. We have been in business since 1938, and have navigated successfully through many incredibly challenging environments. But our industry has never faced a period with the rules and regulations around trade with the United States are simply unknown and unknowable. I have never been more excited than I am today about our brands, our strategies and the overall strength of our company. We have a diversified supply chain and a team of experts with deep international trade experience. We began this year with a fortress balance sheet, healthy inventories and building momentum in the Columbia brands accelerate growth strategy. These strikes give me confidence in our ability to emerge from this period as a stronger company with an improved position in the marketplace. When the rules around trade are unknown, it's impossible for any company to predict with confidence what the cost of U.S.…

Operator

Operator

Certainly. At this time, we will be conducting a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Laurent Vasilescu with Exane BNP Paribas. Please proceed.

Laurent Vasilescu

Analyst

Afternoon. Thank you very much for taking my question and thank you Tim for all your thoughts on the tariff situation. It sounded from the prepared remarks that your fall order book did not meaningfully change if I heard correctly. I note, Tim and Jim, I know you're not guiding for today, but should we assume that wholesale for 2H should be similar to what you expected in early February, which I think was somewhere up low single-digits? And longer term -- yes, sorry. And then second part of that question is just longer term, I believe there's a lot of private label offering in the U.S. that comes from China. Are there any opportunities to take market share near-term and longer term just because of the situation? Thank you.

Tim Boyle

Analyst

Certainly. Well, again, the category headwinds, we really don't know what the consumer is going to be doing in the back half of the year. On the tailwinds, there's so much product that comes from China, both from private label and from smaller brands where we believe there's an opportunity for the company to gain market share and we'll be focusing on making sure that as it's available to us, we are going to take advantage of it. And we think that there will be an opportunity for us to grow the business from a market share perspective, just based on the what you pointed out as it relates to China's shortcoming shortfall in deliveries to the U.S.

Jim Swanson

Analyst

And Laurent, as it relates to the fall order book, as we took that through February and March. There were no surprises in the wrap up of that order book relative to what we reported in February. And as Tim noted, we've not seen any meaningful cancellations to-date.

Laurent Vasilescu

Analyst

Okay. Thank you, Tim and Jim. And then I appreciate that. I know it's hard in this volatile environment, but I appreciate that you called out $40 million to, I think, $45 million of incremental COGS based on the tariff rates as of today. Should we assume that, that kind of split between 3Q and 4Q? And clearly, I think you called out that you're not offsetting that with pricing for fall order books, but could you raise pricing starting for Spring 2026? And if that's the case, like how much would you raise pricing globally or just in the U.S.? thank you very much.

Tim Boyle

Analyst

Certainly. Well, I think our plans for Spring 2026, which are in flux right now, because we really don't know what we're likely to pay for things in Fall 2025, let alone Spring 2026. But again, we will be surgically viewing the business and when the opportunity arises for us to either take market share by keeping existing pricing or offering some incentives. We'll be doing that on an almost ad hoc basis as it begins -- as we begin to take orders for the season.

Jim Swanson

Analyst

And then, Laurent, as it relates to the $40 million to $45 million in tariffs. By and large, we would expect that to be in the second half of the year. We don't ship a lot of the very little of the fall merchandise here in the second quarter. There may be a little bit that goes out. And then that $40 million to $45 million, that's incurred or realized sort of P&L that underlying inventory sold. So there's the potential that you could see some of that cost actually out in the 2026 to the grid. We haven't shipped it or sold through our own D2C channels at the end of the year.

Laurent Vasilescu

Analyst

Very, very helpful. Last housekeeping question here. Just the midpoint of guidance for 2Q revs. I appreciate that you're giving that to us tonight, but the 3%. Any color around how we should think about that by the key markets that you report? And if you're seeing anything in terms of near-term sentiment in China because you've done very well over the last several quarters in China. So, I'd just love to get some color there. Thank you very much.

Jim Swanson

Analyst

Yes, I mean, from an overall standpoint, the guidance range that we provided of 1% to 5%. The 5% was essentially in line with the prior outlook that we provided back in February. And keep in mind that from a wholesale standpoint, we had an order book for the spring season that we last reported on that contemplated, a mid-single-digit rate of growth. So this is generally consistent with that barring anything significantly changing from a wholesale customer standpoint, which we've not seen to date. Aside from that, Laurent, we're assuming that the trends that we've more recently seen in the business, which includes our international businesses continue to be healthy. So, our outlook would contemplate that continue to be the case across Europe and China, and then continued some slowness that we've seen in our U.S. direct-to-consumer business.

Laurent Vasilescu

Analyst

Okay. Thank you very much and best of luck.

Operator

Operator

Next question comes from Peter McGoldrick with Stifel. Please proceed.

Peter McGoldrick

Analyst · Stifel. Please proceed.

Hi. Thanks for taking our question. You pointed to opportunity to take market share in the current environment. And I was hoping you could elaborate on those comments if that's a global consideration and given the level of consumer uncertainty, could you share your internal expectations for market performance in the various regions you participate?

Tim Boyle

Analyst · Stifel. Please proceed.

Certainly, let me answer the first one. As it relates to market share, many of the companies that we compete with and as Laurent mentioned, many of our customers that have private label businesses that are centered in China will have a difficult time importing products at all, maybe paying very high prices for it. And we see opportunities to take share from these smaller brands and also take share potentially from our customers' business. That's the primary -- why we feel confident that there's going to be an opportunity for us just based on our balance sheet. And the fact that, frankly, we have a very structured, well-established expertise in navigating tariffs globally. The U.S., well, it's a crazy time right now for tariffs, we navigate tariffs around the world and are quite good at so the opportunities for us to be successful when others are not should be quite good.

Peter McGoldrick

Analyst · Stifel. Please proceed.

Thank you for that. And then I was hoping you could talk about your plans to support demand creation. Previous guidance had considered a step up to 6.5% of sales. I recognize that you're no longer -- you've withdrawn guidance, but I was hoping you could talk about your level of commitment to growing demand creation and relative to the prior outlook?

Tim Boyle

Analyst · Stifel. Please proceed.

Yes. We intend to continue to spend at a higher level than we have in the past on projects and campaigns starting really in August of this year. And we think it's going to be quite good for the company for a couple of reasons. First of all, we're going to spend more. Second of all, we're going to be more efficient with our spend, we're changing strategically how we spend the money. And lastly, the campaigns created is very different. We'll have an opportunity to show you that [indiscernible] artist when you'll see much more of the company's marketing assets being distributed. But I think that those three things will give us a very big leg up especially in a time when competitors will not be able to be investing as heavily as we will.

Jim Swanson

Analyst · Stifel. Please proceed.

And Peter, while we're not providing a full year outlook. He'll note in the CFO commentary that we've published, if you look at the SG&A analysis that's in there. Our marketing spend as a percentage of sales for the first quarter was 6.4%. So, that's somewhat indicative of that intent that we've got in terms of putting more dollars behind marketing and the ACCELERATE strategy.

Peter McGoldrick

Analyst · Stifel. Please proceed.

All right. Appreciate the perspective and I look forward to the advertising campaign.

Operator

Operator

Next question comes from John Kernan with TD Cowen. Please proceed John.

Krista Zuber

Analyst · TD Cowen. Please proceed John.

Good afternoon. This is Krista Zuber on for John. Just first on the SG&A cost saves. On the last call, you really spoke to achieving sort of the $90 million in cost saves for 2024. And you're now tracking, I believe, the 8-K suggested roughly $150 million annualized for fiscal 2025. What have you since identified in your cost structure review of potential areas that's driving this spend reduction? And ultimately, kind of what do you view with the optimum SG&A rate longer term for the company, excluding this, I don't even know if you can exclude the current period, but in a rosier picture, I guess? Thank you.

Jim Swanson

Analyst · TD Cowen. Please proceed John.

Yes, Krista, this is Jim. Yes. So what we described, the $150 million, keep this in mind, those are annualized cost reduction plans that we've got to encompass both what we set out and we achieved in FY 2024 so the $90 million and then the incremental amount that we intend to execute on this year that would bring the cumulative amount up to the $150 million by the time that we exit this year, by and large, is reflective of the components that we've described at to this point in terms of operational cost savings. We've described some work that's going on within our supply chain, that's encompassed distribution costs and whether that be third-party logistics and distribution savings that we achieved in the last year, including labor optimization. There's automation efforts that are ongoing. We did execute a reduction in force last year. Certainly, that's on the table in terms of factors that we need to be considering for the balance of this year as well. So -- and then in addition to that, all forms of other spend and whether that's capital spend, we're porting back on that a bit in the U.S. given the uncertainty of the trade environment that we're operating in and all other forms of discretionary spend. So we feel like we've got a good beat on achieving that $150 million as we exit this year. To your question regarding the longer-term goal here, without getting down to the specifics on this, certainly, our expectation would be that we make progress towards driving leverage in our SG&A and getting -- pushing that back in the direction where it has historically been as well as in the case of our operating margin and seeing our operating margins return into the double digit and beyond zone. But it's going to take time given the uncertainty of the environment that we're operating in here today.

Krista Zuber

Analyst · TD Cowen. Please proceed John.

Got it. Thank you for that. And just one -- my second question, just on China. The turnaround in your business there has been very encouraging. And what you're seeing, just like to get some insight into what you're seeing there. You're up low teens, I believe, constant currency in Q1. Can you talk more to the recent trends, the positive outdoor category trends, the elevation that you've really been able to achieve in that market and kind of how that's shaping your view more or less for the balance of this year and the longer-term opportunity in the market? Thank you.

Tim Boyle

Analyst · TD Cowen. Please proceed John.

Yes. So, I mean, it's good to remember that we are quite small in China but compared to many of our competitors. So the opportunity for us to grow rapidly is quite -- is there. The expansion opportunities are good as well because there's an established retail operation there with not only our own stores, but stores that our customers would operate for all intents and purposes under our franchise agreement. So, outdoor is strong there. The brand is strong, and we're seeing lots of opportunity for expansion. We're also going to be continuing to invest there in localized design and production, which we believe can give us a leg up against many of our competitors.

Krista Zuber

Analyst · TD Cowen. Please proceed John.

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Mitch Kummetz with Seaport Global. Please proceed.

Mitch Kummetz

Analyst · Seaport Global. Please proceed.

Hi thanks for taking my questions. Tim, as you think about the consumer or maybe some of your wholesale partners, have you seen any preemptive buying any pullback in the spending? And then also maybe just from a top -- well, as far as sales and margins, what is your kind of FX outlook? How has that changed given what we've seen with the dollar over the last -- since you guys last reported?

Jim Swanson

Analyst · Seaport Global. Please proceed.

Yes, I can take the FX portion of that, Mitch. We're not providing a full year outlook here today. In terms of what's embedded in our in our Q2 outlook that we provided, I think it's on the conservative end of the range knowing that the dollar's weakened a fair amount. So, that should be a bit more of a benefit relative to what we anticipated coming into the year. But speaking to it any further than that on the full year, but I will back my comments at this stage.

Tim Boyle

Analyst · Seaport Global. Please proceed.

Yes, I think for us, even though we -- once or so into this tariff, even have to describe the tariff world. Our customers as it relates to the retail customers looking to us for guidance on much of the stuff. And unfortunately, we're not going to be able to do much other than tell them the company is strong, you can rely on the from a balance sheet perspective, that we will be stronger than many of your vendors and we provide as much information as we can frequently. I was in touch with virtually every one of our major customers at a high level to tell them, here's our approach. We don't know much. But as we know, we will be filling you guys in. And we think there's an opportunity to take market share from weaker competitors. The consumer, I think, clearly, is screen what's going on, and we've seen that across all different kinds of commodities. So again, it's just too difficult to be speculative right now.

Mitch Kummetz

Analyst · Seaport Global. Please proceed.

And then as a follow-up, you guys mentioned that there hasn't been any change to the order book. But Tim, I think you said that you expect retailers to be cautious. Are you going to be building the order book? Are you going to be pairing that back, assuming that there are some cancellations might hit? And how are you thinking about your willingness to hold inventory? Are you more likely to kind of pack and hold knowing that stuff that you have in inventory now you've bought it maybe at a lower cost than might down the road? Is there more willingness to kind of hold on to things, especially if it's kind of like basic kind of carryover product?

Tim Boyle

Analyst · Seaport Global. Please proceed.

Yes. So, we sold the bulk of this inventory November of last year, we bought it and we have not received at all. So depending on when the merchandise actually shows up, I think we think we've got something like half of our products. We've seen some of the new tariffs, but basically half of our inventories in the U.S. is here in house. And we're going to continue to receive inventory. Hopefully, it will be at some reasonable tariff charge. But between a short -- a potential shortage from other vendors and our strong balance sheet, we believe we can be a provider of product as it's required to our retail partners and consumers to our own DTC business beyond where others will be able to provide that.

Jim Swanson

Analyst · Seaport Global. Please proceed.

Yes, maybe just a couple of added remarks related to that. So, over the Fall 2025 season, we've purchased the lion's share of our inventory is in the 85%, 90-plus percent range of Fall 2025 that is in bot. So, certainly, these final buys that we're making as we finish up the seats we're rationalizing those inventory purchases relative to any given number of scenarios from a demand standpoint. And then with regard to holding inventory, we've had a strong preference in the past to ensure that we do that in the lease disruptive way and profitable way of leveraging the fleet of outlet stores that we have. So that will be top of mind as we get to that point and we need to make those decisions in the latter part of the year.

Tim Boyle

Analyst · Seaport Global. Please proceed.

Yes, I might add -- a global business. And so to the extent we can move product around the world to take advantage of markets that don't have the crazy tariff implications, we'll do that.

Mitch Kummetz

Analyst · Seaport Global. Please proceed.

Great. Thanks again.

Operator

Operator

Next question is from Paul Lejuez with Citigroup. Paul, please proceed.

Paul Lejuez

Analyst

Thanks guys. On that $40 million to $45 million of tariff pressure that you talked about in the second half, I'm curious if that already considers the sharing of some of the burden by your vendors or if that's an opportunity to work that $40 million to $45 million lower? And then second, can you just remind us your top three customers? And what percent of sales they represent within the host business? Thanks.

Tim Boyle

Analyst

Yes. So as it relates to our vendors, we have a well-established grouping large vendors to the company, we consider them to be partners, and we will work together to the extent possible to mitigate as much of this additional tariff costs that we can. It may not be through discounts and maybe through some other help that they may give us on where we're shipping merchandise or shipping merchandise over a longer degree of time, et cetera. So we consider the fact that we had the strong relationships with the vendors to be another example of a high-quality company with a great balance sheet that can weather storms like this. And as it relates to our customers, we don't really provide top customers. We do not have a 10% customer. We have customers all over the globe. And so we think we're quite well set to await the storm.

Paul Lejuez

Analyst

Typically, the $40 million to $45 million that already includes some vendor sharing that in tariff burden or now?

Jim Swanson

Analyst

That's the direct tariff cost us on the universal 10% incremental tariffs for the Fall 2025 season.

Tim Boyle

Analyst

In the U.S.A. Then we don't really know if it goes to 175% on every country in the world, it may be a different number.

Paul Lejuez

Analyst

And do you think that you have the success with getting the vendors to share in some of that burden?

Tim Boyle

Analyst

Well, again, these are partners of ours, we will work together to do what we can in that. Moving in order to a different time, moving order to a different ship to location in the country. It's not the U.S.A., [indiscernible] if there's all these myriad ways we can work together to help together move through this stormy period.

Paul Lejuez

Analyst

Thank you. Good luck.

Operator

Operator

Next question is from Jonathan Komp with RW Baird. Jonathan, please proceed.

Jonathan Komp

Analyst

Yes, hi. Good afternoon. If I could just follow up to ask further on the China and the U.S. sourcing. It sounds like you're shifting a lot of that product. So essentially, you don't have exposure on that piece. China, the U.S. this year. Could I just ask, will that also be the case going forward? Or is that just unique to the fall period? And then any risk from that, that you see in terms of suboptimal assortments or any potential shortages here in the U.S. based on some of those shifts?

Tim Boyle

Analyst

No. We -- the company for years has been moving from China for a number of different reasons, not the least of which China has for a while been the least competitive sourcing operation for products that we sell. So we were able to reduce the company's intake into the U.S. from China to a very low single-digit. We were able to further reduce that this year because we moved product around the globe so that we would keep the orders in our factories there and still providing profitable sales around the world. I don't see any impact on the company's ability to provide high-quality products across our offerings, areas outside of China. But we will continue to produce products in each one for local China production and for consumption around the world where the China's products are considered to be not have tariffs.

Jonathan Komp

Analyst

Okay, great. That's really helpful. And then one more follow-up just on the unmitigated exposure of the $40 million to $45 million this year. It looks like effectively that's more than a 300 basis point hit in the second half to your U.S. gross margin structure. Are there any other potential offsets you're contemplating for this year? And is that sort of a one-time step down? Or are you thinking about looking to recapture some of that next year depending on all the scenarios? Just trying to get to how you're thinking about that margin impact this year?

Tim Boyle

Analyst

Right. Well, that's based on an assumption that the President does not increase the size of the current 10% additional tariff. So that's our assumption. That's how we're modeling the business. Who knows, the guy made -- we got tomorrow and the world has changed, but we're providing the information we [indiscernible].

Jim Swanson

Analyst

And Jon, we believe that a one-time -- we're absorbing the lion's share of that $40 million to $45 million this year. Our belief and expectations we plan for next year. It's premature in terms of all the steps, but Tim touched on all the different levers that we have available to us. And as we begin that planning for next year, certainly, we would look to make various decisions to absorb and recover any incremental tariffs that were net occurring.

Jonathan Komp

Analyst

Okay, great. Best of luck. Thanks again.

Operator

Operator

Next is Paul Kearney with Barclays. Please proceed.

Paul Kearney

Analyst

Hi good afternoon. Thanks for taking my question. You mentioned that you're pulling in inventory during the pause period and rationalizing buys for the back half. Can you clarify if that is on a dollar basis? And can you talk about your expectations on the cadence of ending inventory for Q2 through Q4? And any detail on region would be helpful.

Jim Swanson

Analyst

Well, it relates to rationalizing inventory. That is looking at that both in dollars and units. And of course, we're not providing specifics on that. And as it relates to pulling in inventory, certainly, what we're seeking to achieve there is knowing that July 9 and the risk of these incremental tariffs then be coming in place. We want to pull forward as much as we can from a production standpoint, being able to receive that inventory and pay the duties at the current known universal 10% incremental rate. So, to the degree we can work closely with our factory partners, with their logistic partners. We're doing everything we can to pull that inventory in from that vantage point.

Paul Kearney

Analyst

Great. Thank you. And then with regards to pricing, obviously, you're making the decision to not take pricing up for the fall. Are you seeing other nonprivate label competitors take up prices? Or do you anticipate that they will in the fall? And is that potentially an opportunity to take further share?

Tim Boyle

Analyst

Yes. I mean, again, I think we're more in the first reporting companies. But we know that many small competitors that we deal with and also many of our customers' private label products emanated from China. So those products, we believe, will be -- if they're successfully imported the United States switches a question, we believe we can easily compete with them and our expectation is that we'll be taking share on that.

Jim Swanson

Analyst

Yes, they're started a little known today in terms of what either our competitors or customers, private label, what everybody is doing with their own pricing. So, TBD.

Paul Kearney

Analyst

All right. Thank you very much. Best of luck.

Operator

Operator

Next, we have Alex Perry with Bank of America. Please proceed Alex.

Alex Perry

Analyst

Hi, thanks for taking my questions here. I guess just to ask sort of in a different way, the decision to pull guidance was that more of a factor of the uncertainty in the demand environment or cost environment? Like are you seeing volatile trends in DTC in particular? That make it hard to predict. It sounds like the wholesale business is relatively stable and with a similar view as the last time you got it. But what's sort of going on in the demand environment that makes it hard to predict? Thanks.

Jim Swanson

Analyst

I'll just say this, Alex, what we're indicating to you and we've provided a Q2 outlook that, by and large, is maintaining the prior first half outlook that we would add -- have. Pulling the full year guidance, nobody knows. There are so many uncertainties with regard to how the consumer and the retailer behaves and acts in the second half of the year for that reason. We are -- we've made the decision to withdraw the guidance. Not to mention the numerous variables when you think about it from an overarching earnings standpoint. But we're not seeing anything today in the trend of our U.S. business, either from a wholesale or D2C business perspective that would suggest a down trend, if you will.

Alex Perry

Analyst

Yes, that's really helpful. And then can you just sort of remind us of sourcing penetration by country and where you have the most exposure as it stands today just as we're sort of thinking about reciprocal tariffs. Obviously, there is the ability to shift. But as it stands today, where do you have the most exposure?

Jim Swanson

Analyst

Yes, I just recommend, Alex, you look to our 10-K. It's pretty -- we just filed that a month or two ago, and it's got all of the relevant data points that are in there. Obviously, we've provided quite a bit of clarity here on the call as it relates to our China exposure specifically.

Tim Boyle

Analyst

Yes. And Alex, I would just point out that we believe we're among the most distributed [indiscernible]. So, we have -- we're sourcing from many, many countries, and we're quite adept at losing production around the world to take advantage of tariffs and specialties in certain markets.

Alex Perry

Analyst

Perfect, really helpful. Best of luck going forward.

Operator

Operator

Next question comes from Mauricio Serna with UBS. Please proceed.

Mauricio Serna

Analyst · UBS. Please proceed.

Hey, good afternoon. Thanks for taking my question. I joined a little bit late, so pardon me if I ask something that you may have already answered, but first on the guidance for Q2, I know it implies like the first half is you're keeping the guidance stable. I just want to understand like for Q1, does that mean there was like some type of pull forward that happened there? And then on gross margin, on Q1, I see it was up 30 basis points. Was that like in line with your expectations? Or was there anything that would reprice you to the upside or downside?

Jim Swanson

Analyst · UBS. Please proceed.

Yes. As it relates to the guidance for the second quarter. So first half, we've more or less held. We've widened the range out, just given the risk associated with what's going on from a trade standpoint. There was our Q1 beat was a combination of things. There is some pull where we delivered slightly earlier on our Spring 2025 wholesale orders relative to what was in our outlook at the time. And then to an extent, we also had some favorable cold weather in many geographies that helped aid in the top line. So, that gives you a bit of overview on that. And as it relates to Q1 gross margin, it was only up 30 basis points for the quarter. That's more or less in line with where we thought it would come in, maybe slightly under. There's no significant driver one way or the other and there are several items that are -- have contributed to the improvement there. So nothing significant to call out.

Mauricio Serna

Analyst · UBS. Please proceed.

Got it. And then just a quick follow-up. Just thinking about the guidance that you provided for the first half, you only talked about like the sales outlook. Just wondering, like, given that like the tariffs looks like a second half impact, why not keep like a full EPS guide for the first half? And with that in mind, I mean, should it still be fair that to see like a better gross margin expansion in Q2 relative to Q1 just given the much easier compares that you have?

Jim Swanson

Analyst · UBS. Please proceed.

Yes, I don't want to get into a ton of details on that. But suffice to say that the reason we haven't given first half or Q2 earnings, there's far too many variables once you start getting down into the P&L. And whether that's tariff costs that you incur, there's a lot of unknowns with regard to the health of the retailer, the deeper we get into this and whether there's downstream bad debt risk that we need to book provisions on. There's just countless variables and outlook for any period of time right now that I would caution. That's the reason we haven't done it. And we'll provide updates along the way to the group again, but there's just too much risk out there right now, too many uncertainties.

Mauricio Serna

Analyst · UBS. Please proceed.

Makes sense. Understood. And then very last week, you said like $40 million, $45 million impact cost on second half. So, is it fair to assume that first half of next year, that number should just be lower because by that when you're implementing some mitigation strategies, right? I just want to talk.

Tim Boyle

Analyst · UBS. Please proceed.

Well, we've been very focused on July 9th, I think it is on the pause [indiscernible], but we have no idea what July 10th is going to be or July 11th for that matter. So, it's very difficult to be projecting a large global business results.

Mauricio Serna

Analyst · UBS. Please proceed.

Thank you so much.

Operator

Operator

We have no further questions in queue. I'd like to turn the floor back to management for any closing remarks.

Tim Boyle

Analyst

Thank you. Thank you for joining us today. We faced many challenges during the company's 87-year history and every time we persevered and become stronger. I'm confident we can weather the storm and emerge with an improved position in the marketplace. So, we look forward to talking to you next quarter.

Operator

Operator

This concludes today's conference and you may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation.