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CONMED Corporation (CNMD)

Q2 2014 Earnings Call· Wed, Jul 23, 2014

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Operator

Operator

Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Q2 2014 CONMED Earnings Conference Call. My name is Kathy, and I will be your operator for today. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. We will conduct a question-and-answer session towards the end of this conference. (Operator instructions) As a reminder, this call is being recorded for replay purposes. I would now like to turn the call over to Mr. Bob Yedid with ICR, Investor Relations. Please proceed, sir.

Robert Yedid

Management

Good morning, everyone, this is Bob Yedid with ICR. Before we begin, let me remind you that during this call, CONMED’s management will be making comments and statements regarding their financial outlook, which represents forward-looking statements that involve risks and uncertainties as those terms are defined under federal securities laws. The company’s actual results may differ materially from our current expectations. Please refer to the risk factors and other cautionary factors in today’s press release, as well as our SEC filings for more details on factors that may cause actual results to differ materially. You will also hear management refer to certain non-GAAP financial measures during this discussion. While these figures are not a substitute for GAAP measures, the company’s management uses these figures to aid in monitoring the company’s ongoing financial performance from quarter-to-quarter and year-to-year on a regular basis and for benchmarking against other medical technology companies. Adjusted net income and adjusted earnings per share measure the income of the company, excluding credits or charges that are considered by management to be special or outside of the normal ongoing operations of the company. These adjusting items are specified in the reconciliation in the press release issued this morning. With these remarks – with these required announcements completed, I will turn the call over to Mark Tryniski, Chairman of the Board for his remarks. Mark?

Mark Tryniski

Management

Thank you, Bob. Good morning and thank you all for joining us on short notice for an earlier than planned conference call. Before Rob and Curt’s comments, I want to take a few minutes to discuss a number of important announcements CONMED made this morning. First, I’d like to discuss the board in leadership changes we disclosed. And you’ve likely read by now, Joe Corasanti is stepping down as President and Chief Executive Officer and as a member of the board of directors. The board has appointed Curt Hartman, an independent director of the company, as Interim Chief Executive Officer. In addition, Gene Corasanti, the Founder of CONMED, has decided to retire from the board and as an employee after 44 years of distinguished service to the company. All of these changes are effective immediately. The board is very grateful for Joe’s many contributions to CONMED for more than 20 years. He’s played an instrumental role in CONMED’s growth in his leadership. He’s helped transform the company into the leading global supplier of medical technology devices it is today. I also want to extend our gratitude to the company’s Founder, Gene Corasanti, whose strategic vision became the foundation for the worldwide organization that CONMED is today. Both Joe and Gene have dedicated much of their lives to CONMED and we wish them well in their future endeavors. The CONMED Board has formed an executive search committee comprised of five independent directors that will immediately begin a search process to identify a permanent CEO. We intend to retain an executive search firm to assist in this process. We are extremely fortunate to have a talented board to drop on and are pleased that Curt Hartman has agreed to serve as Interim CEO. Curt joined the board in March of this year…

Robert Yedid

Management

Great. Good morning and thank you, Mark. During the second quarter, CONMED’s strong operating performance allowed us to grow our adjusted earnings per share to $0.47, up 9.3% over the prior year and near the upper end of the guidance range of $0.44 to $0.48 we provided to investors last April. Diluted earnings per share on a GAAP basis came in at $0.37 for the June 2014 quarter, an increase of 8.8% over the prior year period. Sales for the second quarter of 2014 were $188.2 million, a year-over-year decline of 2.5% or 2.3% on a constant currency basis. This was comprised of a 2.3% decrease in single-use devices and a 3.1% decline in capital products compared to the second quarter last year on a reported basis. Sales were below our prior year for three reasons. First, general surgery product sales which are primarily single-use products, were less than expected as various data points to a lower level of healthcare utilization in United States. The decrease is consistent with what we are observing in the marketplace among public medtech competitors with product lines comparable to CONMED. Second, sales of surgical visualization products were down approximately $2.9 million the second quarter versus the prior year period. We believe much of the decline in our visualization business is due to forestalled orders as customers wait for the release of our next generation system, the IM-8000 2D platform. In addition, there is general variability and capital sales in the current capital spending environment. Third, the sales of our Sports Tissue and Biologics products experienced a decrease of approximately $1.3 million in Q2 2014 due principally to a contract supplier’s inability to supply platelet-rich plasma or PRP products for our resale. As we discussed last quarter, we were looking for an alternative supplier. After…

Curt Hartman

Management

Thanks, Rob. Good morning and thank you for joining us on an adjusted schedule today. I’d like to open this morning by extending on behalf of the Board and myself our sincere appreciation to Joe for his stewardship and dedication to the company over two plus decades. Under his leadership, CONMED evolved both through acquisition and internal innovation into a leading global supplier of medical technologies across many market segments. Today, the company is well positioned, offering its global customers innovative products in areas like sports medicine, orthopedics and general surgery to name a few. Over his career, Joe’s leadership has also been instrumental as the company expanded revenues while growing earnings and cash flow. I wish you all the best in his future endeavors. Second and as important, we’d like to recognize and acknowledge Gene Corasanti for his entrepreneurial spirit that enabled the creation of CONMED. Since its inception some 40 years ago, the company has grown from one product in 1973 to a multitude of medical devices that enhance patient outcomes in all corners of the world. We all extend our thanks to Gene as without his vision and drive, CONMED, the products that our customers depend on and the careers that our employees pursue would not exist. Gene is rightfully proud of his creation and we all wish him well in his retirement. Looking to the future, I’m honored that the board has asked me to serve in the interim CEO role for CONMED. My past experiences at Stryker as Interim CEO, CFO, and Operating Division Global President coupled with my 22 years of medical device industry experience had me excited by the opportunity. Since joining the board as an independent director in March of this year, I have developed important knowledge about our business and operations. The company has a highly engaged and committed workforce and possesses many exciting brands in growing segments of the medical technology market. I look forward to working closely with senior management to move the company forward for all of our stakeholders while the board undertakes a search for a permanent CEO. Overall, acknowledging the work ahead, I’m optimistic about CONMED’s future and the ability to capitalize in this company’s strong market positions and global presence. With that, operator, we’ll open the lines for questions.

Operator

Operator

(Operator instructions) The first question comes from the line of Mike Matson of Needham & Company. Mike Matson – Needham & Company: Thanks for taking my question. I guess I’ll start with Curt. Curt, I was just wondering, would you consider being on as permanent CEO at CONMED?

Curt Hartman

Management

Mike, fair question. I think we’re way too early in the process for me to answer that. The press release indicates that the board has formed a search committee having been through this process once before. The right governance approach is for the board to form a search committee, contract with an outside firm and undertake a comprehensive review. And we’re going to respect that process and not offer commentary on where any individual would be in that process. Mike Matson – Needham & Company: Okay. And then, in this interim period until a permanent CEO is named, do you expect to just kind of maintain the status quo or do you expect to try to implement any sort of changes at the company?

Curt Hartman

Management

I think Mike can answer that. What I would point to first are the positives within the company. There’s been some great internal operational performance that has really allowed gross margins to expand in the last couple of years. You’ve got some great franchises, brand names like Hall, Linvatec, CONMED overall, the international business. Things like that are really terrific, some of the new products that are just hitting the market. And what we want to do is continue to put gas, so to speak, on those fires and let them continue to move forward. On the other side, we’ve got some things that we clearly want to pay attention to. I think some of the top line challenges are front and center on that list. And so if focusing on top line challenge falls in the category of looking at strategic alternatives, then the answer is yes. Beyond that, I don’t think we’ll be commenting this time. We got a lot of work in front of us, sit down with senior management team, understand where our priorities are going to be and then start executing on those. Mike Matson – Needham & Company: Okay. And then I guess just a question for you, Curt or Mark, that the company has been struggling with some declining revenue growth here and it’s fairly rare that medtech companies – I mean, the markets generally are pretty stable, so it’s not that common that we see declines in revenues at these types of companies. So I was just wondering if you had an opinion about what sort of the root causes of the declines in revenues that we’ve been seeing.

Mark Tryniski

Management

Sure. It’s Mark. I’m not going to comment specifically as it relates to any of the business segments and the operational performance. I think Curt did a good job of characterizing the many significant assets and attributes and improvement in the operating performance and margin in SG&A in some of the consolidation opportunities that we’ve executed on that have been very successful in terms of generating growing levels of cash flow. Curt commented on the need to focus on the top line and revenue and that’s something that we will be focusing on further into the future I think. Curt has tremendous experience in this industry. He knows our market. He knows our products. So I think he’s going to do a great job of hit the ground running and help us implement performance and strategy enhancements that will focus on some of those the needs in the company as well as leveraging off some of the tremendous assets and attributes of the company including, as Curt mentioned, the global presence, the product development and some of the new products that are coming out as well as the tremendous momentum that was created under Joe’s leadership around operating efficiency and improving EBITDA margins and cash flows. Mike Matson – Needham & Company: Okay. And just a product question and just on the Edge product. Is that still on schedule to be – I mean you’re the training the sales people I guess during the third quarter. So I’d assume that will be available really about the fourth quarter. Is that kind of the expectation?

Robert Shallish

Analyst

Well, you’re right. We’re training the sales force here in the next several weeks. We are in a limited launch in Spain, testing the product and reviewing of the features and benefits with surgeons. We are awaiting the 510(k) clearance here in the United States, which we think should be coming shortly. So all in all, I think we’re in pretty good shape for a full launch as we get into the later months of this year. Mike Matson – Needham & Company: All right, that’s all I have. Thanks a lot.

Robert Shallish

Analyst

Thanks, Mike. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. The next question comes from the line of Jeffrey Cohen of Ladenburg Thalmann. Jeffrey Cohen – Ladenburg Thalmann Financial Services Inc: Oh, hi. Thanks for taking my question and thank you for the commentary Curt and Mark and Rob. So just a few questions as follow on – it seems like the revenue reduction for the full-year and the forecast seems a bit stronger than expected. Is that as a result of just timing for the new products or your factoring continued weakness in the capital good side for the third quarter as well?

Robert Shallish

Analyst

Well, Jeff, forecasting is not a science. But when we look at our history, we see that the second half of the year has sales which are slightly better but not by much than sales in the first half of the year. So taking that as a benchmark, that would put us at about $740 million of sales, just doubling the sales of the first half. Now the new products we think will beneficial to that, but as you know new products can have a rocky start at I’d say in some points. Not that I’m expecting that from these new products. But the surgical visualization system for example is a capital item. Capital products take awhile to evaluate at the hospital level. So it may not be until 2015 when we see the full benefit of those launches. So even though we’re very optimistic about these new products, we want to be conservative with our forecasting guidance with a respect to their potential benefit in the second half of this year. So overall we feel comfortable with the guidance that we’ve given on sales as well as earnings. Jeffrey Cohen – Ladenburg Thalmann Financial Services Inc: Okay, got it. Could you talk a little bit about the PRP supplier issue? What is it specifically that you’re having issues with the supply and does that mean that PRP as a whole will not be sold at present?

Robert Shallish

Analyst

Well, that’s our current belief. The supplier is a large multinational company. This was a very small business for them. I think they had some issues in production that caused a supply shortage. And as they looked at the requirements to provide those products to us, there was just too much effort they failed to due to provide us with those devices and therefore have stop production. We looked at alternate sources, but it would take quite some time to get them up and running and that would take away focus from our sales force and other efforts. So we’ve concluded for the time being that PRP is probably a product that is just not for us. That could change, but for now we’re not expecting to be selling that device. Jeffrey Cohen – Ladenburg Thalmann Financial Services Inc: Okay. So then what does that mean for the relationship with MTF for the moment?

Robert Shallish

Analyst

Well, the MTF relationship is very, very strong. So as you know, MTF supplies allograft tissue to hospitals here in the United States and to some extent around the world. And we are their education and clinical support group for them and we receive a commission if you will for that service. The tissue business is doing fine. PRP was less than 10% of our revenues associated with MTF. So the relationship is fine and the business we expect should be doing well. Jeffrey Cohen – Ladenburg Thalmann Financial Services Inc: Okay, got it. That’s helpful. Do you have any commentary specific to Altrus for the second quarter?

Robert Shallish

Analyst

Well as you know, Altrus is manufactured in our plant in Denver. That plant received a warning letter in February. We continue to sell the product and we have been fortunate that we’ve at least maintained our sales of Altrus through this period. But it’s been somewhat difficult frankly to grow the sales like we would typically like with a little bit of overhang from that FDA warning letter. I’m pleased to report that as a result of the work that we’ve done with our regulatory group or that our regulatory group has done, the FDA has recently issued a clearance on the Altrus product including all of the design changes that we have made since the last 510(k) clearance several years ago. So that’s very good news. With respect to the actual warning letter, we have a few little things, we believe small things, to button up with the FDA. But we believe we’re on track for clearing that warning letter in Denver facility. So all in all, I think good news on Altrus from the standpoint of clearing up any issues. And we look forward a growth in that device. Jeffrey Cohen – Ladenburg Thalmann Financial Services Inc: Got it. Just a couple more if I may. Can you provide any numbers as far as pricing at least in Europe on Edge at the moment?

Robert Shallish

Analyst

No, I can’t give you specific numbers, but it will be competitive with other market participants’ devices. Jeffrey Cohen – Ladenburg Thalmann Financial Services Inc: Okay. Could you give us a range?

Robert Shallish

Analyst

Gee, I’d rather not at this point, Jeff. Jeffrey Cohen – Ladenburg Thalmann Financial Services Inc: Okay. And just one more if I may, Rob. Could you talk about the cash generation for the quarter and pay down of debt for the quarter?

Robert Shallish

Analyst

Yes. The cash results, operating cash results were about the same as a year ago. We had some inventory growth this period because of new products. So we’re building inventory for some of these new products. And frankly, sales came in a little bit less than we thought. Third thing, generally in the second quarter, we’re building the inventory for the second half of the year when there’s additional plant shutdowns for vacations and holidays and so forth. So inventory growth this particular quarter used up some cash on the cash flow statement. There were no share buybacks. Our debt increased only very slightly. That’s because of the previous share buybacks that we had as well as MTF payment early in the year and the inventory increase. Jeffrey Cohen – Ladenburg Thalmann Financial Services Inc: Okay, got it. That does it for me. Thanks very much.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. The next question comes from Matt Miksic of Piper Jaffray. Matt Miksic – Piper Jaffray & Co.: Hi, it’s Matt. Thanks folks for taking our question. First, I wanted to just maybe understand, I don’t know if it’s Curt or who would be the right person to take the question. But understanding Joe and Gene’s contribution, Curt, you’re, they can’t call it anything but an impressive career with Stryker. Can you talk a little bit about more than you’ve said in the press release, your prepared remarks about why now and what kinds of qualities, incremental value, strategic, energy or insights or direction you’re looking for in a new CEO for CONMED?

Mark Tryniski

Management

It’s Mark. I will not comment further on that question other than to say Joe has stepped down as CEO after a tremendous 20-year career, growing the company, its revenues, earnings, cash flow through both organic and strategic acquisitions. And we wish him the best. Gene has retired from the board and as an employee after founding the company 40-plus years ago. Certainly his vision, he’s been instrumental in the progress and success and growth of this company from startup to one of the leading global providers of medical-surgical devices in the world. So we’re, on behalf of the board, very grateful to both of them for their loyalty, their service, their vision and their success in growing this company. Matt Miksic – Piper Jaffray & Co.: Okay. Secondly on the Q2 results, wondering how much of an effect – you talked a little bit about the markets and about some of the pacing of the product launches. Did you see any effect because of the strategic alternatives process that you are undergoing it was out there on the marketplace? Any distraction or disruption of the sales force, whether any of that will carry over here into the remaining quarters of the year?

Robert Shallish

Analyst

Well, Matt, there were a lot of rumors about the process. So we didn’t confirm any of those obviously during the last several months of this process. It’s possible there may have been some distraction, but it’s very difficult to quantify that very frankly. I think going forward, there should not be a distraction because we’re continuing to operate as a company like we always we have. We’ve got some great new products to be working on. So I look forward to performance in the second half of this year and going into the next year. Matt Miksic – Piper Jaffray & Co.: Okay, so no disruptions or loses of distributors. It just helps people to speak out that you’d expect to have a material impact?

Robert Shallish

Analyst

No, we’re not expecting that. Matt Miksic – Piper Jaffray & Co.: Okay. In terms of EBITDA trends, Rob, you talked about more improvements to come in the second half and in 2015. Given the number of new capital products, can you talk a little bit about how that mix will work or what we should expect in terms of the shape or the magnitude of those improvements in EBITDA?

Robert Shallish

Analyst

Well, Matt, this year going back to our earlier calls, we’ve forecasted that about 50 basis points improvement in EBITDA this year. We’re already doing that frankly for the first half maybe even a little bit better. So all of that seems to be on track from a cost improvement situation. You’re correct, the capital products could be from a mix standpoint, somewhat of a drag on margins. But I don’t think that that is going to be significant. Capital products for us are still only about 20% of our total sales. And the margins on the capital products aren’t that much less than the single-use products. And lastly, volume in any form whether it’s coming from capital products or single-use products have a real positive impact and absorption of overhead cost. So more volume is always better whether it’s coming from capital or single-use products. Matt Miksic – Piper Jaffray & Co.: Okay. And that’s actually lead into my last question here. Just product mix is important. But we have talked about capacity and fixed asset absorption in the past. And I suppose that getting that some of that inventory moving through the P&L will help. But given that you put this strategic evaluation on hold here and you do have capacity as I understand it, should we expect you to be talking in more products or business lines over the coming quarters to help leverage that production capacity? How should we think about that?

Robert Shallish

Analyst

Well, our strategy for years has been one of taking advantage of acquisitions as we find them or as they’re presented to us. And I don’t believe that that strategy is going to change. So as we look at products that fit into our portfolio, we’re certainly going to be interested in ones that we can bring into our plans, increase our production, take advantage of the overhead that we have and leverage that overhead over a broader range of devices.

Curt Hartman

Management

Matt, this is Curt. I feel compelled to chip in on that comment because I think as you well know from your time in the industry, strategic M&A is part of how this industry was build. And if there are appropriate technologies out there that the company binds through its business development efforts, we’ll certainly advance those discussions with the board. And if it’s right for the company we’ll move forward. We’re not going to stop running the business because of an interim CEO. We’re not going to stop running the business because of what the company undertook in the last six months. We’re going to run the business. There are some great assets here that we need to leverage. The internal work has been phenomenal. They’re really positioned as well and we’re going to find some strategic options here to continue to move the company forward. And I think they exist. Matt Miksic – Piper Jaffray & Co.: And lastly, and just if you could elaborate and all on maybe the areas of it, whether size or the timing of anything like that, that would be helpful. I understand you don’t want tip of your hands too much and maybe it’s too early to say but any color would be helpful.

Robert Shallish

Analyst

Yes, Matt, I think you know me well enough that we don’t – I think my standard quote is we don’t comment on M&A because it’s, number one, it would inappropriate; and number two, it’s very difficult to time M&A. And I think if you, though, do look at the business and you look at the brands of Hall and Linvatec and look at the sports medicine franchise, those are obvious areas where the company can leverage its investments that are already in place. And I’m sure our customers would be pleased by a continued expansion there. Matt Miksic – Piper Jaffray & Co.: Great, thanks so much.

Operator

Operator

Thank you for your question. The next question comes from the line of James Sidoti of Sidoti & Co. James Sidoti – Sidoti & Company, LLC: Hi, good morning. Can you hear me?

Robert Shallish

Analyst

Yes, it’s fine, Jim. James Sidoti – Sidoti & Company, LLC: Great. I saw the new bipolar system. I believe you said you have the 510(k) submitted. Were there any clinical trials you needed to do for that?

Robert Shallish

Analyst

No, there was no need for our clinical trials. This is a standard 510(k) filing. James Sidoti – Sidoti & Company, LLC: Okay. So you don’t expect this to be a delayed process to get this out into the market?

Robert Shallish

Analyst

No, no. We filed the 510(k) close to three months ago. So with the 90-day rule we’re expecting clearance fairly shortly. James Sidoti – Sidoti & Company, LLC: Okay. And then you indicated that cash flow for the quarter was about level with last year. Can you just give us some guidance on where you expect cash flow to end up for the full year?

Robert Shallish

Analyst

Sure, Jim. I think that free cash flow for us is going to be approximately in $65 million to $75 million range. Historically, we see a greater growth in cash flow as we go into the second half of the year. And so I feel good about the cash flow of the company. I always have. James Sidoti – Sidoti & Company, LLC: Okay. And then you mentioned the consolidation in Denver. Can you just remind me what that was?

Robert Shallish

Analyst

Well, we announced several months ago that we were closing the manufacturing facility in Denver. This is a process that will take 18 months at this point. Denver manufactures the electrosurgical generators, the Altrus product and a few disposables. We’re moving the production to the Chihuahua, Mexico facility over this period. Remaining in Denver will be research sales and marketing and out in those functions. But production is moving to Mexico. James Sidoti – Sidoti & Company, LLC: All right. And then how much do you expect that to save going forward?

Robert Shallish

Analyst

We’re estimating in an annual basis, once done it will approximate $4 million to $5 million of savings. James Sidoti – Sidoti & Company, LLC: Okay. And so I assume the new bipolar system will be made in Chihuahua as well?

Robert Shallish

Analyst

Well, there are components that are made in Mexico and there are components that are made here in Utica. James Sidoti – Sidoti & Company, LLC: Okay. All right, and then my final question is about the guidance. Curt, were you involved in setting the new guidance? I mean is this something that you own or is this guidance in the previous management?

Curt Hartman

Management

The company has a normal process for establishing its forward-looking guidance. Given the changes that were announced this morning. I was involved in discussions with Rob and others in the business. And given the first half performance, given some of the things we are looking at both pluses and minuses candidly. We thought it was an appropriate reduction in the top line while still keeping fairly close to the original guidance on EPS. So I guess that’s a long awaited answer to say yes, I was involved in the guidance. James Sidoti – Sidoti & Company, LLC: Okay. And do you feel comfortable with the guidance as it stands now?

Curt Hartman

Management

I feel very comfortable with this guidance. James Sidoti – Sidoti & Company, LLC: Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you for your question. The next question comes from Mark Landy of Summer Street. Mark Landy – Summer Street Research Partners: Good morning, folks. Thank you for taking my questions. And good morning, Curt. I guess maybe for Curt and Mark just kind of a big picture question. Curt, I think you mentioned that M&A is obviously a very integral part and a large part of growing orthopedic businesses. And as you look at the capital structure, obviously you can tweak that there are 27 million shares outstanding, a lot of headroom there. Maybe not that much headroom on the desk [ph]. If we look out 18 months, what do you feel is an optimal capital structure or how do you feel you need to get there?

Curt Hartman

Management

You might be a little early on that question. I think as I stepped into this role there’s a lot of people, Rob and others that we want to talk to and then have a more informed discussion with the board to see if there’s an openness to put more leverage in the business. We certainly are not at that point in my tenure here. Today effectively is my first day. So it maybe a little bit early for a strategic vision and some of those elements, but those are things that we will be looking at. And as appropriate in the months and quarters ahead, we’ll provide more discussion on those. Mark Landy – Summer Street Research Partners: I appreciate this kind of job. I guess I was asking more from being the member of the board, but perhaps we can just maybe move on. If we have a little – and I think, Rob, you had previously mentioned that you’ve done a great job in the expense side and that the leverage that we’re seeing can extend into 2013. So how does one have to think of top line growth with declining leverage as we head into next year? Is there the need to go out and do something sooner rather than later? Because from what we’ve seen over the last 18 months, I’m not sure the internal product developer can actually get you to that growth that you need on the top line.

Robert Shallish

Analyst

Well, Mark, we certainly are not giving any guidance for 2015 at this point. But I guess I would say that I would personally expect us to be growing our top line in 2015 compared to 2014, if nothing else because of some of the new products, which I think are going to be very favorably absorbed by the market. So given the fact that if any company that’s having top line growth, it’s much easier to hit earnings targets and the margin goals. So my assumptions are that with the company growing top line, controlling costs that results in margin improvement. And as we’ve done over the last three, four, five years I would expect that our margin improvement would continue at CONMED.

Curt Hartman

Management

And Mark, I’ll just add. And at the end of the day, we need to grow the top line whether that’s through organic or a combination of organic and M&A. And it’s one of the areas that we’ll be focused on. Mark Landy – Summer Street Research Partners: Okay. So that kind of brings me full circle back to Mike’s first question. He was first up on the Q&A. What is going on with the top line? So outside of the NTS transaction, all the internal products have struggled. Is that full costing – and, Rob, you said it’s not a science, but now let’s just take that off the table, isn’t that they have the sales force who’s not aligned correctly in terms of motivation? Maybe the products are not as competitive as one had hoped. It can’t just be full costing in the market. There has to be some elements I’m missing on execution.

Robert Shallish

Analyst

Mark, I guess, I want to disagree on your point about all products are having difficulties. I’ll refer to Hall 50 launch with 12% increase in hand piece sales this particular quarter over the last quarter. A perfect example of a product that it has a new features and benefits being taken into the marketplace and getting a great reception along with the lithium battery that goes it with it. So that’s a great example I think of new product launch that is successful. So that’s one area. Geographically, there’s always some issues that come up being a worldwide company. So Europe last year was not doing well because of economic activity. This year so far, Europe is up about 5% over last year. Now maybe it’s an easier camp, but Europe is up so that’s great. On the negative side, Canada which is a major market for us is down, primarily because of a tough camp with major capital purchases by customers in the second quarter last year. And with government controls right now in Canada, we’re not seeing those same capital purchases. So we really have to get very specific about geographies and product lines to be able to discuss each of the components that make up our sales performance in any given period. There’s always going to be some ups and there’s always going to be some downs. What we have to do is concentrate on those areas where we’re doing well to make sure that we’re seeing improvement and continued improvement. And then focus on those areas that are not doing well and work to increase the efforts and the sales performance in those particular areas. And that’s what we’re going to do as a company. We’re going to be looking at all of that. Continue the growth in areas where we’re doing well and look at the areas where we’re doing somewhat poorly and find out ways to improve that performance.

Curt Hartman

Management

Mark, we need to grow the top line. Mark Landy – Summer Street Research Partners: Yes.

Curt Hartman

Management

We’ve got to evaluate what’s working, what’s not working. And that would be the effort. Mark Landy – Summer Street Research Partners: Apologies for the generalization. I guess it suffices to say that generally speaking, things haven’t gone as communicable plans, but now let’s just move on. I think my last comment is, I guess the move from Warsaw to Utica is not going to be a tough one to convince people. I’m sure you guys are looking to take advantage of the situation there or would you feel that you’d have to maybe move to a better location for exact better talents. I guess that’s a bit of a tough question to answer, but any insights would be well appreciated.

Curt Hartman

Management

Mark, I don’t live in Warsaw, so that’s not the question. Mark Landy – Summer Street Research Partners: Oh, it’s not directed at you, Curt.

Robert Shallish

Analyst

I guess I don’t understand your question. We’re located here in Utica. We’ve got a large, very large facility, larger than this one in Tampa, Florida. We’ve got a facility in Massachusetts outside of Boston. We have sales locations around the world. So we recruit talent from across the world and we’ll continue to do that. Mark Landy – Summer Street Research Partners: My comment was related to the Zimmer and Biomet transaction that your move from Warsaw to Utica is actually not a difficult one to make, you’re not talking [ph] and have to check somebody from a major city. And the question really is, do you feel that being at Utica is a detraction to getting major talents and that would you have to keep the headquarters there or is it a non-issue? And those are my questions.

Robert Shallish

Analyst

Yes, thanks, Mark. I don’t know if I have good answer for that. We’ve recruited talent here in Utica for years. So I don’t view that as an issue. But I looked at my watch. It’s 9:30. I know everybody’s got things to do. And Mark, it’s now open. So with that I thank everyone for participating in the call. We look forward to discussing our third quarter earnings with everyone in October. And again, thank you very much for participating at this earlier hour than we had originally anticipated. Thank you.

Curt Hartman

Management

Thank you.

Mark Tryniski

Management

Thanks, everyone.

Operator

Operator

Thank you for your participation in today’s conference. This concludes the presentation. You may now disconnect. Good day.