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Q2 2018 Earnings Call· Thu, Jul 26, 2018

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Operator

Operator

Good morning and afternoon, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to today's CNH Industrial 2018 Second Quarter and First Half Year Results Conference Call. For your information, today's call is being recorded. [Operator Instructions] At this time, I would like to turn the conference over to Federico Donati, Head of Investor Relations. Please go ahead, sir.

Federico Donati

Analyst

Thank you, Liza. Good morning and afternoon, everyone. We would like to welcome you to CNH Industrial Second Quarter 2018 Results Webcast Conference Call. This call is being broadcast live on our website and is copyrighted by CNH Industrial. Any other use, recording or transmission of any portion of this broadcast without the express written consent of CNH industrial is strictly forbidden. CNH Industrial interim CEO, Derek Neilson; and Max Chiara, group CFO, are hosting today's call. They will use the material you should have downloaded from the CNH Industrial group website. After their presentation, we will be holding a Q&A session. As a final comment, please note that any forward-looking statements we might be making during today's call are subject to the risks and uncertainties mentioned in the Safe Harbor statement included in the presentation material. Additional information pertaining to factors that could cause actual results to differ materially is contained in the company's most recent report 20F and EU Annual Report as well as other periodic reports and filings with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission, SEC, and the equivalent authorities in The Netherlands, AFM; and Italy, CONSOB. The company presentation may include certain non-GAAP financial measures. Additional information concerning these measures with reconciliation to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures is included in the presentation material. I will now turn the call over to Mr. Derek Neilson.

Derek Neilson

Analyst · Seaport Global

Thank you, Federico, and good morning, good afternoon, to everyone. I'd like to start today by taking a few minutes to talk about our Chairman, Mr. Sergio Marchionne. As you're no doubt aware, we received the terrible news yesterday morning that Sergio had passed away. This is an incredible sad and difficult time for all of us in CNH Industrial, and our thoughts and prayers go out to Sergio's family, friends and colleagues. The Chairman had a remarkable ability to drive us forward towards new and ever-increasing goals through a unique combination of courage, tenacity and unconventional way of thinking. This was true leadership. His unnerving forensic knowledge and sharp wit made a lasting impression on everyone who came into contact with him. In his 15 years at the helm of, first, Fiat Group and then FCA and CNH Industrial, he championed transparency, responsibility, openness and respect. We will not forget these principles and we will continue to build on the legacy he has left us. I know that I speak on behalf of all my colleagues and the entire personnel of CNH Industrial when I say that it has been a privilege and an honor to work alongside such a unique and inspirational leader. We will miss him immensely. All CNH industrial locations across the globe will be observing a moment of silence during the [ sabbath ] to pay their respects to Mr. Marchionne. I would please ask you to now join me in a minute of silence in memory of a very unique and special person. As difficult as it is, if I can bring us, at this point, back to the business. We are pleased to report a solid quarter in terms of year-over-year improvement in each of the businesses and across the key metrics. And…

Massimiliano Chiara

Analyst · JPMorgan

Thank you very much, Derek, and good morning, good afternoon, everyone on the call. Before I start my section, please allow me to add a brief comment regarding Mr. Marchionne. I would like to share with you the uniqueness of our boss, who was an inspirational and motivational leader beyond anyone else. It is no secret that many in our organization, like me, will be ever grateful for having had the chance to be guided and inspired by him these past 5 years at CNH Industrial. With that said, I would like to return to the business at hand, exactly as he would have expected me to do. Moving on to Slide 7, key figures for the second quarter. In summary, we ended the quarter with solid end-market demand in our main businesses, driving increased volume with an improved product mix and achieved positive price realization across our businesses, leading to net sales of our industrial operations, up 16% year-over-year at $7.6 billion. With this top line performance, we were able to demonstrate strong leverage with a 44% increase in our adjusted EBIT, with all businesses improving year-over-year as a result of increased production and more favorable mix, especially in AG and CE. Those improvements, coupled with a further reduction in interest expense and an ETR of 23%, allowed us to report an increase in our adjusted net income of almost $150 million year-over-year or 56%, despite increased FX volatility, mainly in emerging markets. Specifically on tax, as a result of a more stable trend achieved now for 2 consecutive quarters, for the full year 2018, we are upgrading our expectation for an adjusted ETR of approximately 28% from 30% before. Adjusted EBITDA of Industrial Activities closed at $571 million with margin up 1.4 percentage points to 7.5%. Adjusted EBITDA…

Derek Neilson

Analyst · Seaport Global

Thanks, Max. No further remarks from my side. I think we can open for questions.

Massimiliano Chiara

Analyst · JPMorgan

Go ahead. Take the first question.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] We will take our first question from Mike Shlisky from Seaport Global.

Michael Shlisky

Analyst · Seaport Global

Good morning, guys, and certainly my condolences. So I want to quickly ask about the guidance. First of all, it's certainly great that you've increased it, but if you look at the last 3 years, you've made above half, call it, 1/2 to 2/3 of your full year earnings in the second half of the year. You've already put up, in the first half, about $0.43 of EPS the first 2 quarters and things seemed to be going quite well. I know there's some caution, Derek, you said out there in certain select areas, but is there a reason why you're expressing a pretty significantly lower back half, or we won't get at least $0.45 in the back half, or is there a certain signal you're waiting for to kind of hear about what happened to maybe up the back half on the next quarter's conference call?

Derek Neilson

Analyst · Seaport Global

Mike, I mean, the -- first of all, thanks for your message. I mean, essentially, the trade war is what's driving the prudent approach we have taken in the second half of the year. As you know equally as well as I, it's changing by the hour and not even by the day. So again, we understand in the last 72 hours, we have the $12 billion aid package. We saw in the news last evening that the U.S., EU zero tariff trade platform approach seems to be positive. But quite frankly, we need to unwind what those 2 factors are going to deliver more in terms of timing, rather than in terms of expectations as well. So I mean, I can assure you the machine is running well and we are confident we can carry the performance that we saw in H1 followed into H2. But really, we're taking a point of caution and being prudent on this forecast based on the uncertainty of the trade war, which we believe is a sensible approach from our side. For sure, as we go through Q3, then we would hope that, that will unravel and become much clearer to us. And then, obviously, we can give you a much clearer consensus or forecast for the full year.

Michael Shlisky

Analyst · Seaport Global

Okay. That's fair. Perhaps, secondly, Derek, obviously you're not someone new at CNH, you've been around for a while, but you are new to being the CEO. Could I get a sense, even though you're interim, are there anything you're kind of thinking about changing at the company? Are there any quick payback, low-hanging fruit you can do from a cost structure perspective or maybe some small tweak to the product portfolio that might be on your current list of things to do here in the first couple of quarters?

Derek Neilson

Analyst · Seaport Global

Yes. I mean, again, as I referred earlier, I mean we're confident we can drive the business forward in H2 as we have in H1. Those include a number of different activities, cost containment, margin improvement, focused activities within specific models, products and specific marketplaces. Again, it's business as usual, quite frankly, in the second half of the year compared to the first half. I don't think there's any magic or dramatic factors come in; it's really the case of pushing hard on the things we've done well thus far into the second half of the year and make sure that we sustain a positive level of performance going after.

Operator

Operator

We will take our next question from Ann Duignan from JPMorgan.

Ann Duignan

Analyst · JPMorgan

And I would just echo everything you said. When I initiated the coverage on CNH 15 years ago, I had an overweight rating. And the piece is that I wouldn't bet against Sergio, so I think we all agree with your sentiment. My question, I think we all appreciate what's going on with trade wars and I agree that visibility is limited, at best, out there in the Midwest right now. Maybe you could address and talk about the fundamentals in Europe, in particularly what you're seeing in the dairy sector, the cereal sector, especially in light of recent weather and the expectations there for Stage V pre-buying versus the fundamentals?

Derek Neilson

Analyst · JPMorgan

Thanks, Ann. I understand that I'm relatively new to this. You've followed it for 15 years and you appreciate the distance the company has come over that period under the stewardship of our Chairman. I mean, with specific -- specifically to answer your question, I mean EMEA is, not for the first time, a complicated environment. I mean, we have a number of markets that are performing slightly better than expectation, unfortunately offset by a number of markets which we see softening. I would say France starts to show some sign of recovery which, again, coming off a very low base from the last year is a positive sign, given the weight of France on the European market. We see the northern hemisphere of Europe, again, remaining stable, solid across the sort of various sectors of the Agricultural business. So again, I think net-net-net, we are forecasting the market to be flat or slightly up. Again, I don't see us -- quite frankly, I don't see us returning to the heights of the peak and trough that we maybe experienced in the last decade. I think what we see now is becoming more of the norm, and I think it will be a slow and steady growth and decrease that we see in EMEA. I would say, however, positively I think we have reached the bottom of the cycle. We are now in a steady growth in there as well. I mean, specifically to your question on dairy prices, I mean as you've seen in the past quarters, and quite frankly over the past years, the EU support of AG is quite important. And they've demonstrated that they'll protect the industry. So farmers are also now quite unified in most regions and make their concerns heard on policy changes are being contemplated. So it's something we continue to monitor closely. So again, we are not envisaging any major changes in the business direction than we've reported in the past. I hope that answers your question, Ann.

Ann Duignan

Analyst · JPMorgan

Yes. And my follow-up then would be, of the revision to your guidance, how much of that revision is actually the tax rate going from 30% to 28%?

Massimiliano Chiara

Analyst · JPMorgan

Yes. So this Max, Ann, speaking. Basically, half of the improvement comes from the tax rate and half comes from the improved performance, but with the caution of the sensible approach. So that's why, also, we have reopened up the range a little bit from $0.67 to $0.71. So if you look at the upper end of the guidance, obviously, there is more upside to come from the businesses than from the tax rate.

Operator

Operator

We will now take our next question from Steven Fisher, UBS.

Steven Fisher

Analyst

Thanks very much and offer my sincere condolences as well. It seems like your guidance does suggest some margin pressure in the second half of the year. How much of that is the price versus cost dynamic versus R&D step-up versus maybe just other things or just keeping the top line flat because you are trying to be conservative out there given the environment?

Derek Neilson

Analyst · Seaport Global

Stephen, maybe I'll ask Max just to walk you through some of the key highlights or the key metrics within there.

Massimiliano Chiara

Analyst · JPMorgan

Yes. I mean, it's a very simple answer. At the end, what we anticipate is to continue to improve our performance in the 2 business that are particularly under watch for turnaround and recovery, so CE and CV. As we said during the presentation, we expect Powertrain to continue to deliver those levels. So the big question mark is around the unknown and the end market and the turn of the farmer sentiment vis-à-vis the AG business. So at the end, the twist in our number for the second half is going to be sitting in the AG performance.

Derek Neilson

Analyst · Seaport Global

And I would only add to that -- I'm sorry, I would only add to that. I mean, we have a couple of businesses that, let's say, haven't been performing in line with our expectation. I know we've reported on previous calls that we've taken some remedial action to address the improvement of those business, and we start to see those businesses turn around and contributing to the overall performance as well. So again, it's something we'll continue to push forward. It's something we're confident will continue to grow the overall performance of the business.

Steven Fisher

Analyst

Great. And then can you just maybe give us a sense of your AG order book by region year-over-year? I mean, what's the extent of the visibility that you do have to 2019 at this point and have you seen any real change in farmer sentiment in recent weeks? Any kind of changes in the order patterns or anything like that?

Derek Neilson

Analyst · Seaport Global

Yes. I mean, specifically to answer your question on the order book, I would say that from a consolidated -- in the agricultural business, our consolidated level, we're tracking slightly ahead of last year. But I think the key sentiment, the key positive factor within that is if I look at our high horsepower tractor and combine order book and NAFTA and the row crop segment, we are particularly positive year-over-year. So again, we are very I'd say -- no, we're very hopeful we can continue that trend going, but the NAFTA order book is indeed very positive year-over-year. The others are tracking plus or minus a few percentage points. Again, some of them are relatively good base. So again, expectation to have increases year-over-year weren't necessarily the case. Again, I go back to the trade war from what that ultimately will mean for us at the end of the day, I mean, it's a strange situation. I mean, if we look at the order book, it suggests end-user sentiment is negative, is what may be out there. But when we typically talk to the end-users themselves, there's an element of wait-and-see, an element of caution in there as well. So as we said earlier in the presentation, we think that will likely slow down a little going forward until there's more clarity of what this trade restriction actually means going forward. But I think you summarized in the question, we are actually quite comfortable and positive on our order book as it is today.

Operator

Operator

We will now take our next question from Rob Wertheimer from Melius Research.

Robert Wertheimer

Analyst · Melius Research

It's Rob Wertheimer from Melius. And just to add, I mean, the portfolio of companies sort of overseen by Sergio have all been remarkably impressive, so it's a testament to all of you and to him, really impressive. So my question is on trucks. What actions have you taken that have yet to sort of show up in the margin and what structural actions do you think you have left to take to -- the business is at high cycle in the major market, obviously not in Brazil, I mean what's left to improve on there, please?

Derek Neilson

Analyst · Melius Research

Thanks. Thanks for your kind words, Rob. So I mean the -- I'll split [indiscernible]. So from an industry perspective, as we alluded to earlier, we are still managing within a very high industry in the region European region which, again, is very good for us and we're taking full advantage of. Light and medium businesses have typically been good businesses. There, again, we continue to grow margin, we continue to grow share and continue to grow profitability in the back off. Again, I think it was explained in detail in the last quarterly call that we took an approach to focus on more profitable portfolio on the heavy truck segment instead of chasing volume. We also are complementing now with, again, new products that we're launching in this period for the heavy truck and those products include alternative propulsion vehicles which, again, gives us an advantage in the marketplace as well. We're starting to see the dividends of that in the results. You saw in the numbers that Max presented earlier. We're, by no means, at the end of the road, but we are confident that the strategy we have in place is sustainable for the medium- to long-term future. I don't know, Max, is there anything you would add or...

Massimiliano Chiara

Analyst · Melius Research

If I could just put a little bit of caution into Q3. We're probably going to face a little bit more of pressure from a volume standpoint as we are building up into this strategy. Obviously, on the other side, you're going to have the full realization of the pricing actions that we have put in place. And at the end, it will depend upon the execution on the mix change that Derek mentioned, moving away from the, let me say, the diesel propulsions into the alternative propulsion, primarily LNG for heavy-duty trucks, right, and CNG for light and medium, as we see the penetration of those applications growing fast as we move along our strategy.

Operator

Operator

And our next question is from Monica Bosio from Banca IMI.

Monica Bosio

Analyst · Banca IMI

First of all, before starting with the question, let me express my sympathy on the loss of Sergio. I join the sentiment of the company. And then speaking about business, I would like to ask about the outlook in NAFTA for high horsepower. The company had a 9% -- the market was up by 9% in the first quarter for high horsepower, but I see that the industry outlook for the full year has remained unchanged. Is this due to your point of cautious or for other reasons? And the second question is on the -- if you can comment a little bit more on the net debt trend evolution in the second quarter because, actually, I was expecting a bit of a cash burn from working capital due to the ramp-up in production; maybe I lost something. And the third question is if you can give us a rough indication of the financial charges by year-end and of the CapEx?

Derek Neilson

Analyst · Banca IMI

Thank you, Monica. I mean, I'll take the first question, and then I'll ask Max to do your second and third. I mean, the answer is yes. The -- and again, I would break it into sub-answers on the high horsepower. There is a market up to date as represented in an order book, so there is end-user demand. There's clearly a need for farmers to trade out their used equipment. Commodity prices are relatively depressed so the farmers are looking for new equipment to be more efficient to ensure that their operations in the farm are manageable and profitable for them. And again, everyone is waiting and seeing, from the farmer to the dealer to ourselves, just to try and understand how this whole trade war fiasco is going to pan out in terms of what the end picture and end position is -- is 100% tariff, is a 30% tariff, and what is their exact effect. There's no doubt that the aid package that was communicated by USDA was -- will be a positive factor. But again, from the data we've gathered thus far, we understand there'll be 3 programs that will take effect in September. But we really need to get through the next weeks and unravel exactly what that means in terms of support to the farmers themselves. So again, it's a point of caution. We don't envisage any major fundamental weakness in the business itself. We don't envisage any lack of need for the products themselves. It really is just to get clarity of this trade war fiasco that we kind of find ourselves embroiled in. Max, to answer the other 2 questions, please?

Massimiliano Chiara

Analyst · Banca IMI

Yes. Thank you, Derek. And then thank you, Monica, for your sympathy from myself as well. So let me start with the financial charges, first. So basically, what -- the number you see right now is our current run rate. And that speaks for a year-over-year improvement on the financial -- of the interest expense of about $55 million to $60 million, which is what we committed to at the beginning of the year. Speaking about that, obviously, we continue to look opportunistically at the capital markets to see if we can identify with the right timing opportunities to further extend the duration of our debt and lower our cost of capital as we now enter into a full investment grade area. Moving to the net debt and the components of it. We typically tend to generate cash in the second quarter and in the fourth quarter, with the fourth quarter being the highest performance of the year normally. So we are entering the second half of the year where we expect to generate cash. We are basically, let me say, almost flat in the first 6 months. But the expectation is for a cash-generation number that is not to the tune of last year, where we basically made $1.4 billion in the second half. And there are 2 main reasons for that. One, obviously, as we have been mentioning now for some time, we expect CapEx to start to ramp up and moving towards 2% of sales down the road. It's going to take some time, probably, to unfold those new initiatives that hit R&D last year and this year into the CapEx number with the new tooling, but at a certain point is going to come. The second item that will be negative to last year, as you…

Operator

Operator

We will now take our next question from Joe O'Dea from Vertical Research.

Joseph O'Dea

Analyst · Vertical Research

Our thoughts certainly with all of you on the call and your colleagues worldwide during this difficult time. I wanted to circle back on trucks and just some of your comments around alternative powertrains just to understand where penetration is in Europe right now on CNG/LNG, how that compares to where it was a couple of years ago and then how you see that playing out over the next couple of years, just to understand that growth opportunity.

Derek Neilson

Analyst · Vertical Research

Thanks, Joe. I mean, we're not going to disclose any numbers. What I would offer to you is that we see it as a growing segment in the marketplace. I would tell you that we have taken full advantage of that with the product lineup that we have available to us. And I will also tell you that we continue to invest on that product line. And as this segment continues to grow, which is our expectation, then we expect to take full advantage of that going forward. I hope that's enough to answer your question, Joe.

Joseph O'Dea

Analyst · Vertical Research

Yes. Maybe something we can follow up on.

Derek Neilson

Analyst · Vertical Research

Yes.

Joseph O'Dea

Analyst · Vertical Research

The -- also, just with respect to today's announcement on the agreement with IBM, and you talked about some of the supply chain and manufacturing kind of issues that will be addressed there. Can you put in context what that means from a margin opportunity side of things? What that means from a working capital management side of things and more cash that you can free up?

Derek Neilson

Analyst · Vertical Research

Yes. As Max heads our ICT operations in CNH Industrial, I'll give him the stage to tell us exactly what he's doing.

Massimiliano Chiara

Analyst · Vertical Research

Thank you, Derek. Good point, Joe. Actually, this is an important step into our transformation journey in ICT, as we continue to invest into renewing and extending our platform partnership with larger IT vendors. Fundamentally, there is a hard saving that we expect to achieve on a yearly basis that has some relevance, but it's definitely not a material number. Plus, obviously, once those technologies are being introduced into the business functions, there is another potential to take out cost or minimize cannibalization or loss of sales as new digital technologies are being introduced in the marketplace, as for example, e-commerce platforms and so on. So in summary, there are hard savings that we're starting to, let me say, book going forward pretty soon, and there are further potentials to be generated once those technology are fully invested into the business.

Joseph O'Dea

Analyst · Vertical Research

And then just one last one on the back half of the year guide, thinking that what you have in the order books at this point and the equipment that you would be delivering into harvest season, thinking being that 3Q might be a little bit more secure and that the caution might be a little bit more weighted toward 4Q uncertainty. I'm just looking to see whether or not that's accurate.

Derek Neilson

Analyst · Vertical Research

I think for the Agricultural business that would be an accurate assumption, again, with a slightly different blend by region. I mean as we know, EMEA typically has a prolonged break in the period after -- until after the harvest. But for sure in NAFTA, I think that would be a fair assumption, Joe.

Operator

Operator

And our next question is from David Raso from Evercore ISI.

David Raso

Analyst · Evercore ISI

I had a question about the order book for NAFTA. I was encouraged by the comments you had about the positive order book development for 3Q. Then, obviously, you also spoke about some uncertainty. The orders that you have now, just so I'm clear, the orders -- these are second quarter orders you took for 2018 deliveries. Has there been any early indication about '19 and what you've been seeing maybe more recently?

Derek Neilson

Analyst · Evercore ISI

The -- sorry, Dave. Yes. The answer is yes. So the orders that we have in hand we collected in Q2 for delivery in the balance of the year. We will be going out fairly soon to -- for the order writing program for the balance of the year, typically for delivery in Q4. We are not collecting orders at this point for 2019. That would be something that we would be in a position to share with you when we have the Q3 call together.

David Raso

Analyst · Evercore ISI

Okay. That's helpful. And also on the price cost and manufacturing efficiencies in the second quarter for AG were very impressive that it all netted out to the -- basically where all pricing fell through to the bottom line. And again, I know it's hard to know exactly, but the way you bucket volume separately, somewhat regardless to volume to some degree, how should we think about the rest of the year on price versus raw material and including the efficiencies? And it just -- it was an impressive performance on the efficiencies and I'm just trying to understand. Can we hope that can continue for the back half of the year or raw material is going to be getting a little too aggressive on their increase to offset from the efficiencies?

Massimiliano Chiara

Analyst · Evercore ISI

Let me take -- Derek, let me take the technical part of the question and leave it to you for -- to explain the efficiency program. So David, it's important to keep in mind, obviously, we are running right now with raw material headwinds that are starting to bite, but some of those headwinds, due to our standard cost methodology, right, that has an inventory, and they're not going to basically come to fruition into the P&L until we sell those units. So there is a little bit of holdback on the headwinds that will manifest themselves in the second half. So that's why you tend to price ahead to be able to basically, once they come to fruition, have the pricing running to be able to offset some of that issue. As far as the manufacturing efficiency programs, I leave it to Derek.

Derek Neilson

Analyst · Evercore ISI

Yes. I mean, as we said earlier, I mean, we have the pricing actions in place that we believe will accommodate for the raw material headwinds in the second half of the year. That may not be exclusively and we have some other judgments, but I think they will be minor rather than major. With that in mind, then that should allow the manufacturing efficiency to drop to the bottom line. I do have to temper that and say that if we do have a softening in the volume, as we alluded to earlier, then obviously that would drive some unfavorable absorption of our plans. Not material -- but again, we have a 365-day a year efficiency program that we continually drive in industrial operations. So every day, we execute it when it comes to the bottom line. I don't see any reason why that won't continue in the balance of the year.

David Raso

Analyst · Evercore ISI

Okay. So some of the raw materials in the order book that ship in the third quarter will see that, but you've also taken price actions that you feel pretty comfortable with the price cost/efficiency relationship for the rest of the year?

Derek Neilson

Analyst · Evercore ISI

Correct. I mean, again -- sorry, it's a correct statement. I mean, again, it's a bit of a moving target as well. I mean, obviously, the tariffs have been affecting steel prices. Okay. We had news last evening the zero tariff trade approach from the U.S. and the EU suggests that we should have seen the worst of it. But again, with it come -- the deviations we saw over the last 6 months, then I would like to understand exactly what that means before speaking knowledgeable to it. So again, I think we have by and large covered in terms of pricing for raw material headwinds for the balance of the year. We don't envisage that being a major issue.

David Raso

Analyst · Evercore ISI

All right. Thank you for the time and my condolences to everybody at CNH.

Operator

Operator

Our final question comes from Ross Gilardi from Bank of America.

Ross Gilardi

Analyst · Bank of America

Let me just add my deepest condolences on Sergio's passing as well. I'm sure it's a very hard time and my thoughts are with everybody at the company. Obviously, a lot of conversations have been happening for years at CNH around future portfolio structure. And I realized it may be a hard question to ask, but I'm just wondering, just directionally, does Rich's departure earlier in the year and now Sergio's passing, does it potentially delay the timing on any potential future transformation decisions to later in 2019 or 2020? And obviously you've been kicking around a lot of ideas for many, many years. I'm just asking more about just the timing of any decisions, if anything, do you think is impacted?

Derek Neilson

Analyst · Bank of America

No. I mean -- first of all, Ross, thanks for your condolences. I mean, the -- for me, it's a never-ending cycle. I mean, we -- every company, and we are no different from most, continue to look at the portfolio, the product, the business as part of, let's say, the functional operations of the business. And we're no different, quite frankly. The -- I mean, clearly, we're going to appoint a new CEO in the near future. I think we should be cautious to comment until the new CEO is onboard because, I think, it's first for him or her to make the statement of what may or may not change in the future. And again, with great respect, we've taken on a new chairperson since last Saturday. So again, I think we need to give the time for the new chairperson to acquaint himself for the business season and address those questions. So I don't think materially it's delaying anything. Again, I think there's a robust solid team behind Mr. Tobin before, behind myself. So the team -- and again, they're seasoned professionals on the team, so they're constantly looking at the cycle of opportunities and how we can grow the business -- organic, inorganic and so on, and so on. So I don't think it's going to be a material delay of anything, if we did consider to do something in the future. But I think we have to give caution to the appointed new CEO and the new chairperson onboard and give them the opportunity to give you more clarity in the future.

Massimiliano Chiara

Analyst · Bank of America

Ross, sorry, if I may add a comment to your question. If you remember, the second part of the story that was being wired in the past was, in the meantime, until we get ready for whatever actions we may take in the future, obviously, we need to continue to address our quest for further improvement in the credit rating as we strongly believe that our sector pertains to a high investment grade rating structure, and we want to get there as quickly as possible. And also, we are looking -- continue to look opportunistically into our capital structure to identify options for extension of the duration of our debt. So while -- I mean, we have to pause for a second the company and the team is not staying still, we'll keep working on those 2 priorities.

Ross Gilardi

Analyst · Bank of America

And just, Derek, I realized maybe it's a somewhat awkward question for you to answer, but you did mention that the company is going to appoint a new CEO in the future. What's being communicated internally about that? And can you say -- do you expect to announce something by the end of 2018 and can you comment at all on whether the search is mostly internal or external?

Derek Neilson

Analyst · Bank of America

The only thing I would say, Ross, is -- no, the only thing I would say is, I mean coherent with the press releases we saw the last days, the search is in progress. I can confirm that's the case. Again, in the meantime, myself and the management team are focused on bringing forward our commitment and delivering our guidance for the year. So whether it be September, October, November, December, the machine and the management team will continue to drive the business on. And once the decision is made, then the decision is made. So you'll be first to hear.

Operator

Operator

And our last question comes from Mario Gabelli from GAMCO Investors.

Mario Gabelli

Analyst · GAMCO Investors

In light of the time, let me echo the comments of the preceding. I'll talk to you guys individually about what's going on in the truck market.

Derek Neilson

Analyst · GAMCO Investors

Okay. Thanks, Mario.

Operator

Operator

That will conclude the question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the call back over to Federico Donati for any additional or closing remarks.

Federico Donati

Analyst

Thank you, Liza. We would like to thank everyone for attending today's call with us. Have a good evening.

Operator

Operator

That will conclude today's conference call. Thank you for your participation. Ladies and gentlemen, you may now disconnect.