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Q1 2013 Earnings Call· Mon, Apr 29, 2013

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Compass Minerals International, Inc. Q1 2013 Earnings Call Transcript

Operator

Operator

Good day, and welcome to the Compass Minerals First Quarter Earnings Conference. Today's conference is being recorded. At this time, I'd like to turn the call over to Ms. Peggy Landon. Please go ahead.

Peggy Landon

Management

Thank you, Tim, and thank you all for joining our call this morning. I'm pleased to be joined this morning by Fran Malecha, our CEO; and by Rod Underdown, our CFO. And I'll be turning the call over to them in just a minute. But before I do, let me remind you that today's discussion may contain forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These statements are based on the company's expectations as of today's date, April 29, 2013, and involve risks and uncertainties that could cause the company's actual results to differ materially. The differences could be caused by a number of factors, including those identified in Compass Minerals' most recent Forms 10-K and 10-Q. The company undertakes no obligation to update any forward-looking statements made today to reflect future events or developments. You can find reconciliations of any non-GAAP financial information that we discuss today in our earnings release, which is available in the Investor Relations section of our website at compassminerals.com. Now I'll turn the call over to Fran.

Francis J. Malecha

Management

Thank you, Peggy. Good morning, and thanks for joining us today. I'm pleased that we can talk to you about our results today. After all of the weather challenges the company has faced over the past couple of years, it was nice to see a rebound in highway deicing demand. Focusing first on our salt segment performance this quarter, we posted near-record quarterly sales, as a number of our key deicing market saw winter return in a very big way. Demand for our highway deicing products was as strong as we've experienced since the first quarter of 2008, and our consumer and industrial sales volume was up 6% year-over-year, primarily because of slightly stronger demand for packaged deicing products. The strong highway deicing demand also diminished the high-cost rock salt inventory we produced in 2012, when our operating rates were low. At the end of the season, our inventories were roughly at average levels and well below last year's elevated levels. We're optimistic that late-quarter snowfall also lowered customer inventories to more normal levels in many of our key markets. The snow events were uneven, though, so there are likely to be some customers in pockets of North America that ended the season with above-average inventories. Still, as we enter the 2013-'14 bid season, we believe we are turning the corner away from the issues raised by unusually high customer inventories and inflated per-unit production costs of 2012. We won't be able to judge our customers' carryover inventories until the bid season is truly underway, but it's reasonable to expect bid sizes to rebound meaningfully from last year's unusually depressed levels. Based on our analysis of consumer and commercial deicing sales channels, we believe our customers' inventories are significantly lower than at this time last year and are, perhaps, at…

Rodney L. Underdown

Management

Thanks, Fran. I'll take us through the financial details of the quarter, beginning with our specialty fertilizer segment. Sales of specialty fertilizer were $4.5 million lower than the prior year sales due to an 8% decline in sales volumes. Prices in the quarter held steady at $615 per ton compared to $613 per ton in the first quarter of 2012. The decline in sales volume partially contributed to specialty fertilizer operating earnings falling to $15.4 million from $20.7 million in the first quarter of 2012. Higher per-unit costs were also a key contributor to lower operating earnings. Per-unit costs in the 2013 first quarter were approximately $368 per ton compared to $315 per ton in the first quarter of 2012. Now as a reminder, the poor 2011 solar evaporation season did not begin impacting our results until the second quarter of 2012. That poor solar evaporation season reduced our harvest of mineral feedstock for SOP production in 2012. So to supplement our harvest, we purchased additional potassium feedstock, thus increasing our costs in 2012, including for the product we sold this quarter. In the first quarter of 2013, we sold all of our carryover SOP inventories, as well as some lower-cost 2013 production. So on a sequential basis, our per-unit costs declined about $70 per ton from the costs we reported in the fourth quarter of 2012. For 2013, production constraints have limited sales volumes from sulfate of potash. We expected to be ramped up to near our full 350,000-ton capacity run rate by April 1. As Fran mentioned, as we move through the final stages of our plant yield improvement project, the bottlenecks have taken longer to fix than expected, and there were several days of unexpected downtime related to plant maintenance. All in all, though, we believe that…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] And we'll take our first question from Ivan Marcuse with KeyBanc Capital Markets.

Ivan M. Marcuse - KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc., Research Division

Analyst · KeyBanc Capital Markets

I know in the Midwest, there's still -- through April, there's a lot of winter weather. So will that -- will you be able to gain any sort of spot business? And the spot business has historically been at a higher price. Will that benefit the second quarter, or is that sort of nominal at this point?

Francis J. Malecha

Management

I think it'll be nominal at this point, Ivan. It's Fran. I think it's a bit delayed in terms of the spring in the Midwest, but we've seen probably an early spring in the Pacific Northwest, and I think California has been pretty normal if you look at our key markets. And most of our tons for the spring are committed, so I think it will have a nominal effect.

Ivan M. Marcuse - KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc., Research Division

Analyst · KeyBanc Capital Markets

Great. And then on the SOP business, you said you're focusing on targeted markets. So will this -- should we see an overall increase in the spread between SOP and MOP, a fundamental change where it will be wider than it's been historically going forward, since you're focusing on these better markets and there's a supply constraint? Or do you think, over time, that mix will change and you should continue to see the trend of $100 to $150 per ton?

Francis J. Malecha

Management

Well, we're at the kind of the wide end of that range today, and I would expect us to -- with the margin management that we will continue to perform ongoing to kind of -- I would anticipate to stay at that higher end of the range. And it will fluctuate from time to time depending on the prices of our underlying key crops as much as what's driving the MOP pricing, which is mainly corn and soybeans. But I'd anticipate we'd stay at the high end of the range.

Operator

Operator

And we'll take our next question from David Begleiter with Deutsche Bank.

David L. Begleiter - Deutsche Bank AG, Research Division

Analyst · Deutsche Bank

Fran, just looking at pricing for the upcoming bid season, would you, at least, expect pricing to be at the long-term average of, perhaps, 3% and upside from there?

Francis J. Malecha

Management

It's just too early for us to comment on pricing at this time. We're just getting started on the bid season and we'll have, I think, a better indication of that here over the next couple of months. But just too early to comment at this time.

David L. Begleiter - Deutsche Bank AG, Research Division

Analyst · Deutsche Bank

And just on the SOP production bottlenecks, what exactly were they, and any longer-term lasting impacts from them beyond this year?

Francis J. Malecha

Management

Well, we just completed our recent debottlenecking part of that operation. So it's ongoing capital that's being invested, maintenance capital primarily going forward that, I think, will continue to stabilize our production and get us at or near our design rates. So nothing other than that.

Operator

Operator

And we'll take our next question from Mark Gulley with BGC Financial.

Mark R. Gulley - BGC Partners, Inc., Research Division

Analyst · BGC Financial

I've got some SOP questions as well. Fran, we've been hearing about the intensive marketing efforts trying to get more crops, for example, potatoes, to use more SOP and less MOP over the years. Is there something you're doing differently than before? Because we've heard about this, and it's taking a little while to kind of play out.

Francis J. Malecha

Management

I don't think there's anything that we're doing particularly different. You have to keep in mind that we're talking with growers. We're talking with our channel partners, and in this case, also with the end users, the ultimate end users of potatoes. And that does take time to go through the chain and, we think, create the demand pull that will serve us now and into the future. So I think it's nothing significant that we're doing other than just continuing to focus on those key supply chain partners. And I think we'll continue to see positive results.

Mark R. Gulley - BGC Partners, Inc., Research Division

Analyst · BGC Financial

Okay. And then with respect to SOP production and the cost thereof, the company seems to be kind of going back and forth on whether or not it wants to use purchased potassium to supplement the harvest. Sometimes, you've done it. Sometimes, you haven't. Can you talk about your philosophy on that going forward?

Francis J. Malecha

Management

I think it really boils down to -- there's an economic component, so at a certain spread in our pricing to MOP, it would make sense to utilize potassium and create more product, especially at times when we are constrained a bit on production or demand spikes for some reason. And we might see an opportunity in the months ahead to create more product. But I would say generally, we want to produce our own high-quality products and deliver that to our customers effectively.

Operator

Operator

And we'll take our next question from Edward Yang with Oppenheimer. Edward H. Yang - Oppenheimer & Co. Inc., Research Division: I just wanted to circle back onto the salt business. Because of the stronger-than-expected volumes that you saw and you did mention that some customers met the max on their contracts, did you already have some spot sales in the first quarter that helped the results?

Rodney L. Underdown

Management

There wasn't any significant spot sales that were differently priced, no. Edward H. Yang - Oppenheimer & Co. Inc., Research Division: Okay, got you. And your cost per ton guidance for the year, $34, what's your level of confidence around that? That seems like a conservative estimate. I think for the first quarter, you were guiding to $34 as well, and it came in a little closer to $31.

Rodney L. Underdown

Management

Yes. As you probably heard, the first quarter includes the higher-cost inventory from 2012. And as you'll remember from looking at our quarterly results, the per-unit cost varies fairly greatly between the first and fourth quarters versus the second and third. So I would say when you look at the $34 per ton, it includes a big chunk of the year that has higher-than-typical costs in it. But we tend to guide or forecast in calendar years rather than kind of winter seasons here. So as we've talked in the past, our cost goal is somewhere around $33, and that's really based on kind of normal production on a 12-month basis. But the calendar year at $34 is our best estimate right now.

Operator

Operator

And we'll take our next question from Jeff Zekauskas with JPMorgan. Jeffrey J. Zekauskas - JP Morgan Chase & Co, Research Division: So why is your forecast of SOP demand 75,000 tons -- I'm sorry, 75,000 in the second quarter instead of the usual 90,000?

Rodney L. Underdown

Management

Yes. I think, as we noted, there's -- the production has been a little bit lower than we anticipated, and not wanting to be sure and not miss our fall and next spring early -- or high-value regions, we'll be careful about not overselling our production as we enter the summer months. Jeffrey J. Zekauskas - JP Morgan Chase & Co, Research Division: So does this mean you expect things to go back up to 90,000 in the third quarter and to have your production resume? And did your, I guess, production shortfall tighten up the SOP market, or do you expect it to tighten up the SOP market?

Francis J. Malecha

Management

I mean, I think we've, as I mentioned earlier, we've seen -- we've made some recent debottlenecks at our plant and are getting more comfortable and consistent with the production there. So I think we would see the last half being at least equal to our sales in the first half. And in terms of the market, I think certainly, we're the largest player in North America, and a little bit of lower production that came off of our facility would have an impact on the supply-demand in the market and potentially could have impacted pricing. Jeffrey J. Zekauskas - JP Morgan Chase & Co, Research Division: Okay. And then lastly on highway deicing, I realize that the second quarter is a tiny quarter in the scheme of things. But if you compared your volumes thus far this quarter to your volumes in the second quarter of 2011, how would they compare? Are they up? Are they down? Are they the same?

Rodney L. Underdown

Management

Yes. I mean, we normally don't give that kind of micro current guidance. But I will say that our expectation for the second quarter is similar to long-term second quarter numbers, which would kind of be in the 1.2 million, maybe 1.3 million ton range for highway deicing. So it's pretty consistent.

Operator

Operator

And we'll take our next question from Robert Koort with Goldman Sachs.

Robert Koort - Goldman Sachs Group Inc., Research Division

Analyst · Goldman Sachs

I was wondering, would you characterize any -- I guess going back to the early days of Compass, there was always an expectation that if you did have a harsher winter, that you'd get a little bit more opportunistic pricing. And I think, Rod, you mentioned that the bid volumes going into the year were compromised by the carryover inventory. So was it a function of that just wasn't available or maybe you had a more conciliatory tone to your customers after the tough year last year? I guess I'm just curious we wouldn't have seen more of that asymmetric upside to pricing.

Rodney L. Underdown

Management

Yes. Bob, of course, the winter is, of course, a combination of the December quarter and the March quarter. And you probably remember our December quarter being characterized as very mild. And we had guided for a normal winter volume to be about 7 million tons this year, which would be below any even long-term averages or certainly, recent performance. And so when we look at the highway deicing volumes for the 2 quarters combined, it was 6.6 million tons. We were thrilled with ending the season strong, and that bodes well for us. But overall, it was a slightly-below-average full winter season, and so the opportunity for a significant amount of spot sales just didn't really play out. Having said that, there's nothing different about the dynamics, so to the extent we would have a severe winter and would expect to have enough inventory on hand to meet that severe winter, we would be able to fully capture any upside there.

Robert Koort - Goldman Sachs Group Inc., Research Division

Analyst · Goldman Sachs

And if you've been able to look historically, I would assume that many of your customers are really depleting their inventories here with the late storms. Have you been able to discern some correlation between their ending inventory levels and what that's historically meant to bid volumes or bid prices in the subsequent season?

Rodney L. Underdown

Management

Yes. I think, as we've stated in the past, when we have a mild or a severe winter, that generally manifests itself in the bid season by modest amounts of increases or decreases in bid volumes. When we look at what happened last bid season, we had never really experienced such a winter, and the bid volumes fell between 15% and 20%. So we would expect a significant bump on that this year. So that's kind of what we would expect. But until we get into the bid season, we really won't know whether to think about that as getting all the way back to the prior bid levels or if it will just be a significant move up in that way. So that's kind of our general expectation. Those minor bid changes would also, in terms of volumes historically, when it would be 1% to 2% or 3% total bid volume changes, would generally provide a direction on prices as well. So when the bid volumes would go down 2% or 3% or 4%, we'd tend to be at the lower end of pricing, very low single digits. And when bid volumes were much higher, we'd be -- we tended to be above the 3% to 4% average. I don't think you can look at a significant pop this year in bid volumes, though, and conclude the same thing. I think we'll be anxious to see what the bid volumes are based on our customer inventory levels, but we wouldn't know any way to guide you other than just kind of typical average price changes year-over-year at this point.

Robert Koort - Goldman Sachs Group Inc., Research Division

Analyst · Goldman Sachs

And have you prioritized seeking bid volumes versus seeking more aggressive pricing as you go into that season?

Rodney L. Underdown

Management

Yes. I think, without getting too granular and not getting too far ahead of ourselves and disclosing anything that our competitors certainly wouldn't be required to disclose, we understand the importance of price and the benefits and the driver that it provides to profitability. And I think just as a general rule, that's always been our bias.

Operator

Operator

And we'll take our next question from Elizabeth Collins with Morningstar.

Elizabeth Collins - Morningstar Inc., Research Division

Analyst · Morningstar

On the SOP volumes in the first quarter, what was the split between international versus domestic? I'm trying to get a sense for if any of your traditional North American customers might have needed to get volumes from overseas because you guys were constrained.

Rodney L. Underdown

Management

Yes. Elizabeth, it was definitely a higher mix of domestic than typical. We did have export sales, but it was -- order of magnitude, it was 80% to 85% domestic, which would be a higher percentage than typical.

Elizabeth Collins - Morningstar Inc., Research Division

Analyst · Morningstar

Okay. And my other question is on the consumer industrial salt business. Your operating margin expectations for 2013 seem to indicate that you have a pretty decent expectation for, as you mentioned, that increase in volumes and prices in consumer and industrial in the back half of the year. Could you maybe give us more color on that, specifically what products you expect to have a strong increase in demand?

Rodney L. Underdown

Management

Yes. Elizabeth, other than the consumer deicing, we would expect our remaining consumer and industrial products to be stable to slightly better than last year in terms of volume. So the volume expectation and the second half expected increase would all be related to the consumer packaged products. And I think you could look back at longer-term history for us to see what we might expect following a normal winter, where our retail customers would want early fall business and go ahead and fill up their distribution system. So when you look at years like 2011, for example, that would have followed a somewhat normal order pattern for that group of customers.

Operator

Operator

And we'll take our next question from Joel Jackson with BMO Capital Markets.

Joel Jackson - BMO Capital Markets Canada

Analyst · BMO Capital Markets

Maybe I'll start on the salt side. You spoke about having a cost goal of about $33 a ton. Is that a goal for '13 if things -- if you were at a normal situation? Or is that sort of something we can think of for next year with normal inflation?

Rodney L. Underdown

Management

I'm sorry, Joel, what was the $32?

Joel Jackson - BMO Capital Markets Canada

Analyst · BMO Capital Markets

So you'd said that your cost goal was around $33 a ton for the salt business for costs. So I'm just trying to get a sense, is that something we can think of as a goal for this year, or is that something you can possibly achieve next year if everything was normal? Or is there some inflation we need to add to $33?

Rodney L. Underdown

Management

Yes. I think when I was commenting on the $34 this year, I was just noting that the first quarter included, I'll call it a cost penalty from 2012 production that we would not expect in the first quarter of 2014. So I think as we play things out here for the rest of 2013, if they work the way we expect, because of the seasonal nature of production and inventory building, et cetera, we'd expect something lower in the first quarter of 2014. And that could provide that kind of trailing $33 kind of number.

Joel Jackson - BMO Capital Markets Canada

Analyst · BMO Capital Markets

Okay. So C&I average pricing was up a little bit this quarter year-over-year for the first time in a little while. Could you tell us how deicing versus non-deicing pricing fared in the quarter year-over-year?

Rodney L. Underdown

Management

Yes. Our non-deicing pricing was essentially flat, and our deicing pricing -- again, the volume lift that we got there because of the way the season unfolded just wasn't enough to really move the needle on the average price for consumer and industrial.

Joel Jackson - BMO Capital Markets Canada

Analyst · BMO Capital Markets

And when you talk about bid volumes, for 2011 bid season, were bid volumes about average back then?

Rodney L. Underdown

Management

Yes. I mean, it, of course, varies year-over-year, but yes. I mean, the 2010-'11 winter, I'm going from memory right now, but wasn't particularly -- the whole winter wasn't extremely mild or extremely severe. And so whatever volume adjustments there would have been to the bid season that year would have been within the typical ranges.

Joel Jackson - BMO Capital Markets Canada

Analyst · BMO Capital Markets

Okay. Switching to SOP, there was some commentary on this call. But we know that your competitor, K+S, raised SOP prices in North America earlier this month. We know that they cited a production constraint from a competitor. Presumably, that's Compass. So when looking at SOP over MOP margin spreads here, could we -- I know there's some commentary, but is it reasonable to assume that, as your production constraints ease, that, that premium would come off because it's sort of -- you had lower volume, which then increased the spread? Do you know what I'm getting at?

Francis J. Malecha

Management

Yes. I think as I mentioned earlier, obviously, we're the major producer in North America, so our supply will impact supply-demand and pricing. But at the same time, we continue to migrate business away from lower-margin areas to better-margin areas. And I think we expect to stay at or near the high end of the range going forward.

Joel Jackson - BMO Capital Markets Canada

Analyst · BMO Capital Markets

And finally, you mentioned that you expected, with all the debottlenecking, that Ogden would be at 350,000 tons by April 1. We're a month into that month now. Are you running right now at full capacity?

Rodney L. Underdown

Management

We are not -- we have not been running at that full capacity, but we certainly have experienced some good results since we've completed the most recent debottleneck that Fran mentioned earlier. And so we feel good about the direction that we're headed.

Operator

Operator

And we'll take our next question from Ivan Marcuse with KeyBanc Capital Markets.

Ivan M. Marcuse - KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc., Research Division

Analyst · KeyBanc Capital Markets

Real quick. You're looking at your constraint on the SOP side, and how are you looking at Phase 2 of increasing capacity? And when would you expect to start investing in that or to have some sort of clarity on when, how much or if you're going to follow through on that expansion?

Francis J. Malecha

Management

Ivan, we can send you -- I think as I mentioned in my remarks, to analyze that, I believe we've said before that that's probably a late 2013 decision. And I don't think anything's changed for us from our last update on that.

Operator

Operator

And we'll take our next question from Jeff Zekauskas with JPMorgan. Jeffrey J. Zekauskas - JP Morgan Chase & Co, Research Division: In SOP, are your production constraints gone as of the end of the second quarter?

Francis J. Malecha

Management

Can you repeat that, Jeff? I'm sorry. I didn't quite catch the whole question. Jeffrey J. Zekauskas - JP Morgan Chase & Co, Research Division: Oh, sorry about that. In SOP, by the end of the second quarter, are the constraints in your production gone and you're back operating at full capacity, all things being equal?

Francis J. Malecha

Management

We would expect to be at or near those design rates coming out of the second quarter. I mean, there may be small additional debottlenecking that we need to do, but we should be at or near.

Operator

Operator

And that concludes our question-and-answer session. I'll turn it back over to Fran Malecha for any closing remarks.

Francis J. Malecha

Management

I just want to thank everybody for joining the call today, and I appreciate your participation.

Operator

Operator

And that concludes today's conference call. We appreciate your participation.