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Columbus McKinnon Corporation (CMCO)

Q4 2025 Earnings Call· Wed, May 28, 2025

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Operator

Operator

Good morning and welcome to Columbus McKinnon's Full Year and Fourth Quarter fiscal 2025 Earnings Conference Call. My name is Joanna and I will be your conference operator today. As a reminder, this call is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Kristine Moser, Vice President of Investor Relations and Treasurer. Please go ahead.

Kristine Moser

Management

Thank you and welcome everyone to our call. On today's call. We'll be covering both our full year and fourth quarter fiscal 2025 financial and operational results. On the call with me today are David Wilson, our President and Chief Executive Officer, and Greg Rustowicz, our Chief Financial Officer. In a moment, Greg and David will walk through our financial and operating performance for the quarter and year. The earnings release and presentation to supplement today's call are available for download on our investor relations website at investors.cmco.com. But before we begin our remarks, please let me remind you that we have our Safe Harbor statement on Slide 2. During the course of this call, management may make forward-looking statements in regards to our current plans, beliefts and expectations. These statements are not guarantees for future performance and are subject to a number of risks and uncertainties and other factors that can cause actual results and events to differ materially from the results and events contemplated by these forward-looking statements. I'd also like to remind you that management will refer to certain non-GAAP financial measures. You can find reconciliations of the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures on the company's investor relations website and in its filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Please see our earnings release and our filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission for more information. Today's prepared remarks will be followed by a question-and-answer session. We respectfully ask that you limit yourself to one question and one follow-up. With that, let me turn the call over to David.

David Wilson

Management

Thank you, Kristine, and good morning, everyone. Let me start by reviewing the fiscal year. I will also give some color on guidance, insights into tariff impacts, and an update on the pending Kito Crosby acquisition before I hand it over to Greg to discuss our fourth quarter results and guidance in more detail. In fiscal '25, we delivered record orders, which increased 4% versus prior year on a constant currency basis, driven by 8% growth in project-related orders and particular strength in precision conveyance. Order momentum remained strong in our fourth quarter, also up 4% on a constant currency basis, again driven by growth in project-related orders and strength in precision conveyance. While short-cycle orders were flat on a constant currency basis in the quarter, we saw an improved comparison trend from the third quarter. Net sales were in line with our guidance, down 4% on a constant currency basis in fiscal '25. This was due largely to timing of backlog, given the higher mix of longer cycle project-related business as we gained traction on our commercial initiatives and offset slower conversion of short-cycle orders. Short-cycle has been impacted by near-term policy uncertainty and channel consolidation that has led to channel inventory reductions. This mix shift also accounts for a 15% increase in our backlog, which positions us well as we enter fiscal '26. I would like to take a moment to thank our 3,500 Columbus McKinnon team members, many of whom are listening today, for their hard work, dedication, and relentless execution throughout what was a dynamic and challenging fiscal '25. Your efforts have improved our position as we enter fiscal '26. Given these efforts, we have improved our operational execution in areas like safety, where we achieved a top-tier TRIR of 0.54. Customer lead times and on…

Greg Rustowicz

Management

Thank you, David, and good morning, everyone. Columbus McKinnon delivered fiscal 2025 net sales of $963 million in line with guidance, but down 4% year-over-year on a constant currency basis, reflecting lower volume due to short-cycle order softness in the second half of our fiscal year as well as the timing of project-related orders that have longer delivery time frames. In our fourth quarter, we delivered sales of $246.9 million, down 5% from the prior year on a constant currency basis due to a 9% decrease in short-cycle sales. While short-cycle orders in the quarter were flat compared to the prior year on a constant currency basis, the decline in sales this quarter was largely driven by a weak order pattern in our fiscal Q3. Backlog remains strong at $322.5 million, a $41.7 million or 15% increase versus the prior year, reflecting the strength in project-related orders, specifically in precision conveyance as discussed earlier. Gross profit of $79.8 million decreased $14.5 million versus the prior year on a GAAP basis, impacted by $4.4 million of expenses for factory closure costs related to two smaller North American facilities, and a continued ramp-up of our Monterrey, Mexico facility. Remainder of the decline was due to lower sales volume and mix as well as a $1.1 million unfavorable FX impact. This was partially offset by favorable pricing net of manufacturing cost changes. Roughly half of the volume and mix impact was driven by lower volume and the other half was driven by the product mix within our factories. On a GAAP basis, our gross margin was 32.3%, and on an adjusted basis, our gross margin was 35.2%. Adjusted gross margin contracted 140 basis points year-over-year, largely due to lower volume and the unfavorable mix previously discussed. With the lower sales volume in the…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen we will now begin the question-and-answer session. (Operator Instructions) Our first question will be from James Kirby at JPMorgan. Please go ahead.

James Kirby

Analyst

Hey, good morning, guys. Just wanted to start here on the tariffs. What exactly is the tariff rate embedded? I guess just for China and the EU for that $0.20 to $0.30 headwind in the first half of the year. And then just a second part, with the Kito footprint, you've mentioned opportunities to relocate or consolidate some of the supply chain with Kito. Is there -- I know you can quantify that, but with a combined entity, is that still kind of the correct way to think about it, that maybe the tariff impact would be mitigated either quicker or better than what you're currently guiding?

David Wilson

Management

Hey, good morning, James. Thanks for the questions. As it relates to that $0.20 to $0.30 embedded for the full year, we're looking at just directly from a factoring of that full year impact, 145% on the China tariffs and 10% on the EU tariffs in the current consideration. Knowing that's in some state of flux at this point, we know that there's some potential adjustment to that, but as is currently contemplated, we're factoring those amounts in. And then as it relates to the opportunities with Kito Crosby, we're obviously advancing the work that we're doing on integration planning to make sure that we have day one readiness, taking advantage of the time that we have now. We're organizing to have a full-fledged IMO that's staffed with dedicated leadership, overseen by a steering committee and a board subcommittee from a governance perspective, with a laser focus on executing the synergies that we've identified as well as delivering the cash generation commitments that we have thereafter to delever rapidly. And so we're working through the opportunities. We are identifying both positives and potential headwinds to initial assumptions, but we're really comfortable with the targets that we've put out there and we're marching towards getting to a closure later in this year.

James Kirby

Analyst

Got it. Thanks, David. And for my second question, maybe just want to dig deeper into the near-term outlook. It looks like the short-cycle has improved through mid-May, but maybe could you talk about how that trended through April and what you're seeing in early June? And then again, as a second part related to Kito, but is there any reason to think that wouldn't be what you're also seeing at Kito given they are predominantly short-cycle business?

David Wilson

Management

Sure. Yes, as you can imagine, on the Kito Crosby front, we can't comment on their results, but we would anticipate a similar level of activity. As I mentioned, short-cycle sales improved in the latter portion of Q4. And we saw for the quarter a year-over-year flat performance in short-cycle activity. And although that was flat year-over-year, it was a significant improvement versus Q3. So that was a positive development. And as we progress through the first half of this quarter, we've seen growth in order demand and we're encouraged by the funnel both in terms of project activity, which was really robust in last quarter and through the full year last year, and with respect to short-cycle activity.

James Kirby

Analyst

Got it. Thank you.

David Wilson

Management

You're welcome.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. The next question will be from Jon Tanwanteng at CJS Securities. Please go ahead.

Jon Tanwanteng

Analyst

Good morning. Thank you for taking my questions. I was wondering if you could talk a little bit more about the tariff situation you mentioned, obviously the $40 million in headwinds, but I guess the net mitigation once you reach the second half, could you maybe detail how much of that is expected to come from pricing versus taking out costs and what your underlying demand assumption is to get to that flat year-over-year revenue flat to up? I guess.

David Wilson

Management

Yes. So, Jon, good morning from a macro environment and hopefully this answers your question. I think I understand what you're getting at. From a macro perspective, we anticipate that the demand environment remains, as is today, somewhat uncertain. There's a level of volatility around tariff activity that is still evolving. We are encouraged by the demand funnel that we've seen so far. And we've got a guide that contemplates flat to slightly up results from a revenue perspective. We think that will be positively impacted by surcharges and tariffs, and potentially negatively impacted by volume reductions tied to price increases to offset tariffs that might result in a lesser competitive position that impacts volume. And so that's kind of a net-net of the assumptions that go into the guide as it's currently contemplated. Let me pause there and see if that answered your question.

Jon Tanwanteng

Analyst

No, that's good. Thank you. And then second, I was wondering if you could talk about the strength in the precision conveyance orders. Where specifically are they coming from? Is the margin on that business good? Just any color there would be helpful.

David Wilson

Management

Yes, precision conveyance orders have been very robust. We're very encouraged by the demand that we've seen there. As you know, we were up 19% year-over-year in terms of order growth in that portion of the business, and that trend was positive throughout the year and continues to be positive in this quarter. That demand is coming from our montratec and Dorner businesses primarily and it is for both precision conveyance solutions that are asynchronous and rail shuttle oriented or precision conveyance solutions that are conveyance and flexible conveyance solutions for our customers, and sometimes a combination of the two. And we're seeing demand across a number of attractive end markets, and so when you think about strength in end markets, we're seeing strength in areas where we have a leadership position, like battery production, life sciences, e-commerce, food and beverage, aerospace. We're also seeing demand that's tied to what we think is driven by reshoring and some of the tariff and trade policy implications in heavy manufacturing environments like steel and heavy equipment. We're seeing demand in US Defense, and we had a big trade show out in Europe this past quarter or this quarter even, and we're seeing the investments pick up in automation in that geography as well as in Germany, as it relates to military and construction spending. So we'll see a number of demand drivers there, Jon. Thanks.

Jon Tanwanteng

Analyst

Great. Thank you. That's helpful.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. The last question will be from Steve Ferazani at Sidoti. Please go ahead.

Steve Ferazani

Analyst

Good morning, David. Good morning, Greg. I wanted to ask about mix in the quarter because we've seen multiple quarters now where your precision conveyance orders have been very strong. I would have assumed, and if short-cycle is so weak, I would have assumed mix should be positive to margin, you're saying it was negative in the quarter. I'm trying to understand that and how that plays out over the first half of fiscal '26.

David Wilson

Management

Yes, sure. And Steve the orders were way up in precision conveyance, but the sales were down, right, and so the translation didn't occur in the quarter. But what we've seen is, margins were impacted by both volume and mix. The lower volume was driving an absorption gap and lower utilization of assets that impacted gross margin in the period. And then we're expecting that to ramp and improve through fiscal '26. From a mix perspective, we had some higher margin businesses that saw some volume declines, like precision conveyance, as I mentioned, and our North American linear motion business, where we were consolidating into Monterrey, as was previously communicated, and so that ramp there impacted total volumes there, but those are ramping as we speak, and we're continuing to drive more volume out of that location. And then we saw some strength in some lower margin areas, like our rail business, and then higher demand for some lower margin hoist-related product. Obviously, I mentioned the impact of tariffs and we anticipate that tariffs will impact this in the first half of the year as we work to put in place whether there's supply chain adjustments or surcharges, or price increases to offset the impact of tariffs. And there is a lag in our ability to put them in place, whether it be for backlog that's already priced and might be seeing cost increases on supply chain inputs or it could be tied to the impact of price increases that result in volume losses that impact the bottom line. Does that answer your question?

Steve Ferazani

Analyst

It helps a little bit. Yes, thanks, David. I appreciate the color on that. But if you're talking about being able to mitigate the tariff impact in the first half, given the strong backlog, and you talked about the strong orders, even in 4Q, you're not going to be able to reprice most of that, right. So it is going to carry over into the second half just to a lesser degree. Is that how I should think of it?

David Wilson

Management

You should think of it as possibly carrying over to a lesser degree. But as we advance in our clarity around the tariff impacts and work with our customers around surcharges tied to those orders, those can be put in place on backlog to offset input costs. And so with the window that we have to communicate and manage contracts, where we have notification periods around price changes, we think we can navigate that through the first half and manage that through the second half with the adjustments that we're making.

Greg Rustowicz

Management

Yes. So Steve, just to be clear, we're expecting there to be roughly a $10 million headwind in the first half of the year, roughly maybe a little bit more in the first quarter than the second quarter of the fiscal year. But the big unknown is we can certainly price and put surcharges on, but what impact is it going to have on the volume? And so it becomes a competitive dynamic we have to assess. But our expectation is by the time we get to the second half of the year, we will have covered the tariff increases as they exist.

Steve Ferazani

Analyst

Okay. That's fair enough. Thanks, David. Thanks, Greg.

David Wilson

Management

Thanks, Steve.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. The last question will be from Jon Tanwanteng at CJS Securities. Please go ahead.

Jon Tanwanteng

Analyst

Hi. Thanks for the follow-up. I was wondering if you could comment on the e-commerce end market, if anything is going on there, number one, and I have a follow-up after that?

David Wilson

Management

Yes, absolutely. As we've communicated previously, we've done a lot of work to expand our position in those markets with business development resources to broaden the base of customers we serve. We're serving a diversity of customers across big box suppliers of e-commerce solutions or delivery systems to customers as well as the more traditional parcel delivery customers with the products that we sell through our precision conveyance base primarily. And we have seen a nice increase in opportunities in the funnel and some traction on some good customer opportunities in that area. Nothing specific that I would call up by customer or by project in this call, but we're encouraged by the opportunities that exist in that space, Jon.

Jon Tanwanteng

Analyst

Okay, great. Thank you. And then I was just wondering if you'd comment on the timing of the precision conveyance backlog. If you see any lumpiness in the next three or four quarters and kind of when do you expect that to hit?

David Wilson

Management

Yes, so the precision conveyance backlog is both project and short-cycle based. And when we think about the short-cycle nature of our build-to-order stock, primarily in the US business, that is kind of a book and ship business that ships in days and weeks and not months and quarters. And the run rate for that business would reflect, I would say, 40% of the volume of that business. And so I think that that's probably a reasonable way to think about short versus long cycle as you think about the US portion of the business. And then the montratec project phasing is largely influenced by the large PowerCo orders that we've taken. And those are for multiple projects in multiple geographies that are moving at a pace that's impacted by construction phasing as well as some of the trade uncertainty. And so we are anticipating that those projects will continue to execute on an over time basis from a revenue recognition standpoint, which does take some of the lumpiness out of this from a delivery timing perspective over the balance of the next few quarters. And so I would say that we're probably a bit back-end loaded on that as it relates to projects, but it is not as spiky as a point-in-time revenue recognition project orientation would be for the business.

Jon Tanwanteng

Analyst

Great. Thanks, David.

Greg Rustowicz

Management

Yes. And Jon just to provide a little bit more color, if we look at our backlog as of 3/31, there's roughly 20% of it that will extend beyond fiscal '26 in total that's not specific to precision conveyance.

Jon Tanwanteng

Analyst

Got it. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. That concludes the Q&A section of the earnings call. I'll now turn the call back over to Mr. Wilson for closing remarks.

David Wilson

Management

Thanks, Joanna, and thank you for joining us today. As we look ahead to fiscal '26, we begin the year with solid order momentum and a strong backlog. We remain focused on what we can control while navigating what remains an evolving macro landscape, prioritizing operational execution, customer experience, and cost management. Despite continued geopolitical and trade policy uncertainty, our team remains focused on meeting our customers' needs and delivering long-term value to shareholders. Over time, we believe we are well-positioned to manage the developments related to trade policy changes, although there may be some volatility from period to period, including sales and margin impacts in the first half. We continue to make progress towards closing the Kito Crosby acquisition, advancing towards an anticipated close near the end of the calendar year. We remain enthusiastic by the potential of this acquisition, which will scale our business, expand customer capabilities, and position us to accelerate our intelligent motions strategy. Through this complementary combination, our company will enhance its portfolio across a diverse landscape of industrial segments with attractive end markets with an enhanced lifting securement in consumables position and we will be better positioned than ever before to deliver a superior customer value proposition through an expanded product offering across a broader set of geographies, generating enhanced financial results and long-term value creation for shareholders. Thank you for investing your time with us today. As always, please reach out to Kristy if you have any questions. Operator, this concludes our call.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. This concludes today's conference call. You may now disconnect.