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Q2 2017 Earnings Call· Tue, Jul 25, 2017

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Operator

Operator

Good afternoon ladies and gentlemen and welcome to the Celestica earnings call for the second quarter of 2017. At this time, all lines are in a listen-only mode. I would now like to turn the meeting over to one of your hosts for today's call, Lisa Headrick Harpell, Senior Director, Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Lisa Headrick

Management

Thank you, Cheryl. Good afternoon and thank you for joining us on Celestica's second quarter of 2017 earnings conference call. On the call today are Rob Mionis, President and Chief Executive Officer and Mandeep Chawla, Chief Financial Officer. This conference call will last approximately 45 minutes. Rob and Mandeep will provide some comments on the quarter and then we will open the call for questions. During the Q&A session, please limit yourself to one question and a brief follow-up. We will be available later this afternoon for additional follow-ups. Please visit www.celestica.com to view the supporting slides accompanying this webcast. As a reminder, during this call, we will make forward-looking statements within the meanings of the U.S. Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 and applicable Canadian securities laws, including those related to our plans for future growth, priorities, trends in our industry and end markets, our anticipated financial and operational results and performance and financial guidance. Such forward-looking statements are based on management's current expectations, forecasts and assumptions which are subject to risks, uncertainties and other factors that could cause actual outcomes and results to differ materially from conclusions, forecasts or projections expressed in such statements. For identification in discussion of such factors and the material assumptions on which such forward-looking statements are based, as well as further information concerning by financial guidance, please refer to the company's various public filings, including our most recent MD&A and Annual Report on Form 20-F including the Risk Factors section therein filed with and reports on Form 6-Ks furnished to, the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission and as a principle, the Canadian Securities Administrators. Please also refer to our cautionary statements regarding forward-looking information in such filings and in today's press release. Our public filings can be accessed at sec.gov and sedar.com.…

Rob Mionis

President

Thank you, Lisa. Good afternoon everyone and thank you for joining today's call. Celestica delivered a solid quarter representing a seventh straight quarter of year-over-year revenue growth. For the quarter, we delivered results in line with our expectations, delivering 5% year-to-year revenue growth with 3.7% operating margin and 10% year-over-year growth and adjusted earnings per share. I'm pleased with the progress we've made on our strategy and on the priorities on which I'll provide an update towards the end of the call. Now, before we dive into the details of the quarter, I would like to thank Darren Myers, our former Chief Financial Officer for his significant contributions to Celestica's success over the course of his career. As you all know, he has made the decision to leave Celestica at the end of July to pursue an opportunity in another industry. Mandeep Chawla, our Senior Vice President of Finance has immediately assumed the CFO roll on an interim basis. Celestica is conducting a search for prominent replacement that will include both internal and external candidates. I'm pleased to have Mandeep join me on the call today. He will discuss our financial results for the second quarter and provide guidance for the third quarter. Now, I'd like to turn the call over to Mandeep.

Mandeep Chawla

Chief Financial Officer

Thank you, Rob and good afternoon everyone. The second quarter of 2017 was another solid quarter for Celestica. Second quarter revenue of $1.56 billion was at the midpoint our guidance and up 5% year-over-year. Some highlights for the second quarter include, we delivered 14% year-over-year growth in the Communications market. Revenue from the Advanced Technology Solutions or ATS market represented 31% of total revenue, compared to 33% in the second quarter of 2016. Revenue from the ATS market declined 3% year-over-year. However, excluding the impact of our exit from solar panel manufacturing, the ATS market grew 3% relative to the same period last year. IFRS net earnings were $34 million, up $12 million relative to the first quarter of 2017 and down $2 million year-to-year. Adjusted operating margin was 3.7% in line with the midpoint of our guidance. Adjusted earnings of $0.32 per share were up 10% relative to the same period last year and came in at the midpoint of our guidance and we achieved adjusted return on invested capital of 21%. Moving to our revenue from an end market perspective, our Communications market performed in line with expectations representing 44% of total revenue and was up 12% sequentially due to seasonal demand strength. Relative to the same period last year, the Communications market grew 14%, driven by continued demand strength in our Optical programs and new program growth, including Joint Design and manufacturing programs. Advanced Technology Solutions revenue represented 31% of total revenue and was below our expectations due to demand softness primarily in our industrial sub segment. Sequentially, Advanced Technology Solutions revenue was down 3% driven by lower demand. On a year-over-year basis, ATS revenue was down 3%, as growth from our semiconductor business and new program revenue offset reductions from the exit of our solar panel…

Rob Mionis

President

Thank you, Mandeep. Overall, we are making solid progress against our strategy of evolving our portfolio by growing our ATS business, while maintaining a strong position in CCS. We also plan on accelerating our portfolio evolution through focused M&A. In support of our strategy in the third quarter, we continue to make important investments. These include ramping new programs, investing in Joint Design and Manufacturing and expanding our manufacturing capabilities to support our future growth. We also continue to invest in our corporate development and sales organizations to drive future growth. We're in our multi-year journey to drive sustainable, long-term profitable growth and are pleased with the level of momentum that has been building. I am confident the investments we are making to strengthen our portfolio will enable us to drive profitable growth over the long term which brings me to our priorities in 2017. The first priority continues to be the evolution and diversification of our customer and product portfolios to drive long-term consistency and growth in operating margins. Excluding the solar headwinds, the ATS market grew 8% on a year-to-date basis relative to the same period last year. This was driven by double-digit growth in our semiconductor, industrial and energy product businesses. We believe we have made good progress in these areas and remain focused on targeting ATS annualized organic growth of 10% over the long term. In our JDM business, we have delivered double-digit revenue and bookings growth in the second quarter year-to-date relative to the same period last year. Although this growth is of a relatively small base and this business accounts for less than 10% of our total revenue, I am pleased with our progress and momentum we have gained. We are also focused on augmenting our organic growth with acquisitions to build at our…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Your first question comes from Matt Sheerin of Stifel. Your line is open.

Matt Sheerin

Analyst · Stifel. Your line is open

Yes, thank you. Just a couple of questions, I just one on the guidance for your three key segments, Communications on the slice. You said it was going to be up low single digits year-over-year, but I thought on the commentary you said it was going to be down.

Mandeep Chawla

Chief Financial Officer

Communications, Matt. Hi, nice to talk to you again. Communications will be up low single digits.

Matt Sheerin

Analyst · Stifel. Your line is open

Okay and what's driving that, if you could talk about some of the sub segments, Optical versus traditional networking et cetera.

Rob Mionis

President

Hey, Matt. This is Rob. Q3 we're seeing some growth and continued growth in Optical, but it's somewhat muted by a little bit of a slowdown in China. But we're also seeing some growth in networking, which is being driven by data center rollout.

Matt Sheerin

Analyst · Stifel. Your line is open

Okay, in this as a follow up, you talked about this quarter being sort of an investment quarter which weighs on margins a little bit. So as you make those investments, you did talk about maybe accelerated growth in the ATS segment, but are you also seeing growth opportunities in other segments where you would expect the December quarter to be up sequentially.

Mandeep Chawla

Chief Financial Officer

Matt, just to clarify, are you asking for the outlook at the end market level for the third quarter?

Matt Sheerin

Analyst · Stifel. Your line is open

That's right.

Mandeep Chawla

Chief Financial Officer

Yes, overall we're seeing CCS being slightly -

Matt Sheerin

Analyst · Stifel. Your line is open

For the fourth quarter, I'm sorry, the December quarter because of the investments you're making now.

Mandeep Chawla

Chief Financial Officer

Yeah, as you know we typically don't give guidance beyond the third quarter. Right now we're just giving guidance for the third.

Matt Sheerin

Analyst · Stifel. Your line is open

Okay, alright. Thank you very much.

Mandeep Chawla

Chief Financial Officer

Thanks, Matt.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from Ruplu Bhattacharya of Bank of America Merrill Lynch. Your line is open.

Ruplu Bhattacharya

Analyst · Bank of America Merrill Lynch. Your line is open

Hi, thanks for taking my questions. The first one for Mandeep, can you kind of quantify what is the margin head from the new program ramps in the third quarter?

Mandeep Chawla

Chief Financial Officer

Yeah. Hi, there. So, in total it's about $3 million of ramp cost in the third quarter that we're calling out. As you know we typically do ramp programs growing the ATS business over the long-term at a 10% target and for the first half of the year excluding solar grew at 8%. So, we're pleased with the overall level of ramping that we're seeing. These are a little bit more atypical, which is the reason that we called it out, it's above our typical ramping type of cost. And just to give a little bit more clarity, it's really investing in capabilities that we are building out in some of our growth sectors, specifically in aerospace in the sense, aftermarket services business and the capabilities that are specific to those programs, but they're actually enabling us to grow in those markets over the longer-term as well. And so the impact right now for the third quarter is $3 million.

Rob Mionis

President

And about 20 bps.

Mandeep Chawla

Chief Financial Officer

About 20 basis points, that's right.

Ruplu Bhattacharya

Analyst · Bank of America Merrill Lynch. Your line is open

Okay, that's helpful. And then Rob, I think in the past Celestica has talked about diversified, contributing about 40% of revenues in the long-term, maybe in terms of ATS because that's the classification now. Do you have a long-term target for mix from the ATS segment?

Rob Mionis

President

No, over the long-term we're looking to grow ATS on a 10% per year basis, over the long-term. This year I think we're going to be a little challenged because of the solar headwinds, but once the solar headwinds are behind us and some of the program ramps that we talked about before put some of the capabilities that we're building out, we do feel like we'll be able to achieve that. In terms of how that contributes to the overall mix of CCS versus ATS over the long-term, that's a little harder to predict, there's a lot to do with our CCS profile overtime. And overall in ATS, one of the things that we're also trying to do via acquisition is really focusing on the contribution margin that ATS makes as a percent of the total as much as revenue.

Ruplu Bhattacharya

Analyst · Bank of America Merrill Lynch. Your line is open

Okay and the last one from me if I can. I think earlier this year you've talked about M&A being a - to have more focus on M&A in the second half of the year. In terms of targets, are you seeing more targets, are you concerned about valuation, if you can just update us on that like how is that progressing and which end markets are you looking at.

Rob Mionis

President

Sure, so as I mentioned on the call, the team is fully staffed to engaging in conversations for targets across several different segments. All the targets have some very similar things. They support our investment thesis's, they've accreted margins, they're speaking with customers, longer product life cycles, we're looking at capability plays, we're also looking at scale plays. Our approach is really very focused. We don't have a gun to our head. The speed of how we're moving is really governed by the target, but broadly speaking, it's still relatively early days.

Ruplu Bhattacharya

Analyst · Bank of America Merrill Lynch. Your line is open

Yeah, thank you for taking my questions.

Rob Mionis

President

You're welcome.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from Thanos Moschopoulos from BMO Capital Markets. Your line is open.

Thanos Moschopoulos

Analyst · BMO Capital Markets. Your line is open

Hi, good afternoon. Can you update us on the component constrains in the supply chain. I know that impacted revenue last quarter. Was there an impacted this quarter and is that an ongoing issue?

Rob Mionis

President

Mandeep would you start, I'll finish.

Mandeep Chawla

Chief Financial Officer

Sure. Yeah. Hi, Thanos. Nice to talk to you. We're seeing constrain environment continue. We did talk a bit last quarter, we mentioned last quarter that the impact in the first quarter was around $10 million and we saw something very similar in the second quarter as well. Revenue upside that we would have had would have been around $10 million and then the same impact on inventory. The parts constrains we at this point are foreseeing for the near term should continue into the third quarter as well.

Rob Mionis

President

Thanos, I would also add that beside the constrains, we're also seeing lead times extend even beyond memory into some of the passers as well. So seems like they're tightening up versus elevating across the entire supply chain.

Thanos Moschopoulos

Analyst · BMO Capital Markets. Your line is open

Okay. And I think in your prepared remarks you referenced softness in the industrial segment that weighed on your ATS growth. Can you clarify what you're seeing on that front and is that also something that might persist into the current quarter?

Mandeep Chawla

Chief Financial Officer

No, it was a short-term measure. We had some program ramps that were shifting our, but nothing that was over the material. We expect normalization as we move into the back half of the year.

Thanos Moschopoulos

Analyst · BMO Capital Markets. Your line is open

Okay. Thanks guys.

Rob Mionis

President

Thank you, Thanos.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from Paul Steep of Scotia Capital. Your line is open.

Paul Steep

Analyst · Scotia Capital. Your line is open

Great, thanks. On the semi equipment side, could you talk a little bit just about the pacing there? I know it's been strong in an area that's helped in the past couple of quarters within the ATS. How the outlook looks there?

Rob Mionis

President

Yeah, I will talk about the broad industry. From a year ago, semi cap is a much different business right now we have a lot of wind on our sales, largely been driven by some of the end market dynamics through demand to some extent. DRAM for us, we have two different types of businesses inside semi cap, the high-level assembly, which is ramping nicely and also our machining which is ramping nicely. We continue to see strong I'll call it tail winds into the back half of the year.

Mandeep Chawla

Chief Financial Officer

Yeah, only thing I would add is Rob meant to talk to you, the semi business, the operational challenges that we had from a year ago have largely been addressed and with the demand strength that we have been seeing as of late and the business has been performing quite well. It's been accretive to our overall margins and we're pleased with the performance in the business.

Paul Steep

Analyst · Scotia Capital. Your line is open

Great. You know what one quick clarification and I'll pass the line. Just on the margin impact on ATS for the ramps and the new programs, is there anything unusual or different about those programs, longer, larger, it sounded like sort of a one-quarter impact you're calling it tonight?

Mandeep Chawla

Chief Financial Officer

Yeah, so as I mentioned the investment is really around capabilities and proof points that's within our aerospace and defense market, as well as within aftermarket services which is actually within our CCS space. And the typical ramp of our program for our business is in the three to six months range and so we do expect that these headwinds will persist actually into the fourth quarter as well. But what we're pleased about again is that these - investment in these capabilities and proof points will really extend beyond the programs that we're specifically ramping at this point. From a materiality perspective, they're not overly material at the revenue level, but when these programs do end up ramping for volume, they should be accretive to the Company's margins.

Paul Steep

Analyst · Scotia Capital. Your line is open

Great. Thanks guys.

Rob Mionis

President

Okay.

Mandeep Chawla

Chief Financial Officer

Thanks, Paul.

Operator

Operator

Okay, your next question comes from Jim Suva of Citibank. Your line is open.

Tim Yang

Analyst · Citibank. Your line is open

Hi, this is Tim Yang calling on behalf of Jim Suva. Thanks for taking my question. On Communications segment, the guidance for the sector is up low single digit for next quarter, which [indiscernible] deceleration versus up 14% this quarter. Can you provide some color on that? I understand that you mentioned some tough comp on Optical side but is there any other factor driving the lower gross rate for next quarter?

Rob Mionis

President

Sure. Hi, Tim, this is Rob. On the sort of the tough level, Tim, our overall strategy for the business is to maintain a very strong position in CCS while growing ATS 10% over the long term. Our ATS business as I mentioned that we have a good head of steam, second quarter year-to-date up 8%. We continue to invest in new programs so expenses and sales were. Our CCS business, it's up 11% year-to-date and we're pleased with the share gains and the market demand driven by some of the programs. As I mentioned in last quarter, we're up against tougher comps, a lot of the programs that we won in the back half of last year are coming up to run rate. So some of the growth rates are normalizing and hence the guidance that we've given.

Tim Yang

Analyst · Citibank. Your line is open

Got you. Thanks. And then a follow-up question on the JDM penetration. Do you guys have any target for the penetration rate in the near term and what's the penetration rate now? Thanks.

Mandeep Chawla

Chief Financial Officer

I'll take that. As we mentioned in some previous calls, the JDM - and relative to our strategy the JDM business is the core area focus for us. We're looking to grow it. And as we said in our prepared remarks, we are seeing double-digit growth in that space. That being said, JDM continues to be below 10% of our overall revenue concentration and it's an area that we are actively working to grow. It's an area that we've been investing in for a number of years and we're seeing very good traction not only in year-over-year revenue growth rate now but also in bookings momentum.

Tim Yang

Analyst · Citibank. Your line is open

Thank you.

Mandeep Chawla

Chief Financial Officer

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Gus Papageorgiou from Macquarie. Your line is open.

Gus Papageorgiou

Analyst · Gus Papageorgiou from Macquarie. Your line is open

Hi, thanks for taking my question. Just on the balance sheet, I mean, the balance sheet continues to be very strong and you're approaching $400 million in cash. And I appreciate that your focus is on M&A and growing the business but - and that you are being patient which is a good thing. But I guess the other alternative is to go back and buy your own shares. If you don't find an appropriate acquisition in the next quarter or two, at what point - I mean how patient are you before you become more active in deploying the balance sheet and buying back your own shares?

Rob Mionis

President

Yeah, thanks Gus. This is Rob. Our long term approach has been and will continue to be a balance approach in terms of investing into the business and also buying back shares. We are as we previously communicated looking to invest back in the business in the short term, but to your point if we don't find a suitable target that adds shareholder value, we will certainly revert back to buying back our shares. In terms of the specific timing that's hard to predict, it's still early days in M&A but we do believe that a balance approach is the right capital allocation strategy for our business.

Gus Papageorgiou

Analyst · Gus Papageorgiou from Macquarie. Your line is open

Can you just update me, do you have a MCID open currently?

Mandeep Chawla

Chief Financial Officer

No, we do not.

Gus Papageorgiou

Analyst · Gus Papageorgiou from Macquarie. Your line is open

Okay, thank you.

Rob Mionis

President

Thanks, Gus.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Robert Young of Canaccord Genuity. Your line is open.

Robert Young

Analyst · Robert Young of Canaccord Genuity. Your line is open

Hi, just couple of questions about margins. I think you had said that the ramp costs $3 million should be about 20 basis points I assume that's operating margin. And so would that imply that without that ramp you would be at 3.9% the midpoint of where you had guide this quarter?

Rob Mionis

President

Hi, Rob. Mandeep here, nice to talk to you. Yeah, the impact is $3 million incremental for this quarter. So, on a straight basis, you're right it would be 20 basis points higher. When we look at our business, we're really continuing to manage the overall portfolio and we continue to stay focused on trying to drive stable margins as we're transforming the portfolio. So in context to your question, we continue to drive towards that long-term range for a range of 3.5% to 4%. We believe that the current revenue mix that we have continues to enables to do that. But the - you're right the impact this quarter is 20 basis points from the ramping of these specific programs.

Robert Young

Analyst · Robert Young of Canaccord Genuity. Your line is open

Okay. Where I was going to go is that it seems there is a couple of other margin headwinds that one the - that the solar business is likely a margin impact, you've also got some material constraint to a likely some form of a margin impact. And then I think the semi cap business, is there still opportunity to raise the margins on that business or are they of the operating model that you want it to be on the long run? Are there any other additional pieces that's with - you would call out that would be below normal margins here in this quarter?

Mandeep Chawla

Chief Financial Officer

No, there are not. So as you know in the past we have called out the underperformance in our semiconductor business and our solar business as being a 30 basis point to 40 basis point headwind. The solar business obviously as we are exiting is no longer there. It's impacting us right now at the revenue level briefly, but that headwind as Rob shared in his prepared remarks, are subsiding. The semi business, we are pleased with the operational improvements that we've seen in the last few quarters and with the demand strength we have been performing well in that business. It is currently performing at our targeted margins and it is accretive to the overall company.

Robert Young

Analyst · Robert Young of Canaccord Genuity. Your line is open

Okay. Great. And then maybe I will ask one last question. Can you talk about the cadence of the - you talked about expanding the sales force I guess a couple of quarters ago and you're coming into a tough compare with some ramps that have matured. Can you talk about the canes of the benefit of that expanded sales force? When will we start to see that? Is that the second half growth that you're talking about earlier in the call? Now I'll pass the line.

Rob Mionis

President

Rob, we just had our sales conference earlier in the quarter and I asked everyone in the room who is new to Celestica and who is not and it's happy to see a lot of new faces in the room from some of the increased resources. Last year, I think we - towards the end of last year we had a very strong bookings quarter and our bookings strength continues. But a lot of that strength is on the ATS side and some of these programs do take a long time to go from bookings all the way to new product introduction and to a ramp. So it's going to take a little bit of time to see the full benefits of some of these investments.

Robert Young

Analyst · Robert Young of Canaccord Genuity. Your line is open

Okay. Thanks.

Operator

Operator

There are no further questions at this time. I'll turn the call back over to the presenters.

Rob Mionis

President

Thank you all for dialing in. And we look forward to updating you on our next quarter.

Operator

Operator

This concludes today's conference. You may now disconnect.