Andrew Littlefair
Analyst · Lake Street Capital Markets
Well, it's literally happening the -- you followed it, Rob, a little bit for others on the call. This is an ongoing effort to clean up the port of Los Angeles and Long Beach. It's very large. It focuses on shore power and on ships and on yard, moving equipment and cranes. I think, when you look at it over a longer period of time, this is a $13 billion kind of program. Just to refresh everybody, the Port of LA and Long Beach is the dirtiest air quality in Los Angeles. Los Angeles has the dirtiest air quality in the United States. So it's a problem. And a lot of the problem comes from shifts, but the majority of it comes from the trucks that operate out of the port. So one part of this Clean Air Action Plan is the truck piece. They've been -- we've been working on it very closely with the port commission and the staffs of the port of LA and Long Beach, ARB and Air Quality Management District, all these people that are involved in the trucking associations. This has been underway really for 9 months, I think, started probably even last -- late last year. There's been a draft plan, then there was another draft plan and, essentially, what's been laid out is that by 2035, the vision is that a lot of the shore equipment and crane equipment and automation, loading in ships and all will be electric as well as the vehicles. This is aspirational, I think, but that's been sort of the goal at 2035. Well, we have problem today, right? So now what happens, that's one good goal. So the draft plan that's being discussed, literally as we speak, there's 100s of people down there at the port right now waiting to speak on this issue on the truck part and the other pieces. They're looking at saying that in 2020, there's some technicalities here. But essentially in 2020, if you operate a current diesel truck, you would need to be paying a fee to operate that truck, and the fee is substantial. It's about last time around 10 years ago when this plan, like this went into effect, which by the way changed the entire fleet. So we know this is going to happen at work. So that's when the natural gas trucks went into place down there the first time around. The fee was $35 per container. So you might haul in one move, 2 containers $70, right? So it's an incentive to get your attention if you're operating a diesel. So if you're not operating kind of the cleanest near 0 type of emission standard, that's one of the things that will be worked out. This -- you will pay this fee and we believe that it'll be right now -- the near 0 natural gas trucks will be really the only commercial thing available today to participate. I think, that will probably go into effect 2020. On the other hand, Rob, what it means to us in the shorter term than that is, there's grant money that's been approved in the state of California and a lot of the grant programs that already have been tested in that work is upwards of $550 million and then when you add the $437 million of available VDs -- VW settlement money, you're talking about just a lot of money that's available that's going to be available for natural gas trucks and, frankly, electric trucks, except as you know, you can't get an electric heavy-duty truck today, and maybe not for some time. Upwards of $100,000 of grant money per truck, that money will be available some time in December. And so the next order of business for us and for the ports is to begin to put in place the grant and incentive programs to begin fielding early adopting trucks now. And we'll see some of that occur in 2018 and 2019 as the deadline looms for thousands of these trucks to either be replaced or start paying a fee. So it's big-time volume for us. I would imagine these things have way of little changing, but I would imagine a great number of 16,000 trucks by 2020 -- 2020 and 2021, 2022 will be gone and they'll be replaced by natural gas and probably a few hundred electric perhaps. The majority will be natural gas. They'll be incented and they'll use 10,000. You're talking about 120 million, 130 million gallons a year down there. It'll be also renewable natural gas. So there's great opportunity for us and as that will start here in the next several months, we'll start getting those news trucks, Low NOx trucks are available in March and April, and the grant moneys would be available. So I'd say, come summertime, you'll start seeing some of those trucks roll into the port.