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Q3 2025 Earnings Call· Wed, Aug 6, 2025

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Operator

Operator

Good afternoon, everyone, and welcome to the Clearfield Fiscal Third Quarter 2025 Conference Call. [Operator Instructions]. Please also note, today's event is being recorded. At this time, I'd like to turn the floor over to Gregory McNiff, Investor Relations. Sir, please go ahead.

Gregory McNiff

Analyst

Thank you. Joining me on today's call are Cheryl Beranek, Clearfield's President and CEO; and Dan Herzog, Clearfield's CFO. As a reminder, Clearfield publishes a quarterly shareholder letter, which provides an overview of the company's financial results operational highlights and future outlook. You can find both the shareholder letter and the earnings release on Clearfield's Investor Relations website. After brief prepared remarks, we will open the floor for a question-and-answer session. Please note that during this call, management will be making remarks regarding future events and the future financial performance of the company. These remarks constitute forward-looking statements for purposes of the safe harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act. These forward-looking statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those expressed in the forward-looking statements. It is important to also note that the company undertakes no obligation to update such statements, except as required by law. The company cautions you to consider risk factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from those in the forward-looking statements contained in today's press release, shareholder letter and on this conference call. The Risk Factors section in Clearfield's most recent Form 10-K filing with the Securities and Exchange Commission and its subsequent filings on Form 10-Q provide a description of these risks. With that, I would like to turn the call over to Clearfield's President and CEO, Cheri Beranek. Cheri?

Cheryl P. Beranek

Analyst

Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining us today to discuss Clearfield's third quarter results. I will start by briefly reviewing the quarter, discussing Clearfield's long-term strategy, the current state of the industry and then turn it over to Dan for a summary of our performance and outlook. For more detailed information, please refer to our shareholder letter posted on the IR section of our website. Third quarter net sales of $49.9 million were up 2% over the same period in the prior year and toward the top end of our guidance range, with Clearfield segment net sales up 15% year-over-year. We are especially pleased with the Clearfield segment's performance as we focus on our objective of growing faster than the industry and driving market share gains. Despite macro and BEAD-related uncertainty, the company is poised for continued long-term growth as the industry returns to a normalized cadence. As we've mentioned on previous earnings calls, a trend we have been tracking for some time is a shift of electronics out of the central office to cabinets closer to the end user. As we highlighted last quarter, we designed our FiberFlex cabinet line to address this trend. Our FieldSmart FiberFlex 600 Powered Cabinet continues to be recognized for its innovative and customer-friendly design. We are also expanding our reach deeper into the connected home. During the last quarter we announced TetherSmart MFT, which enables Clearfield to address new applications within and beyond the broadband ecosystem. As the industry’'s smallest, fully sealed, 10-port access terminal, the TetherSmart MFT is purpose-built for Fiber-to-the-Home, Fiber-to-the-Business, and 5G backhaul applications. Another key highlight in the quarter is the growing success of our Home Deployment Kits, which combine the innovation of Clearfield’s fiber deploy reels with the ease of packaging all components of a home…

Daniel R. Herzog

Analyst

Thank you, Cheri, and good afternoon, everyone. I will now review our third quarter results, beginning with sales. Third quarter net sales of $49.9 million were up 2% over the same period in the prior year and toward the top end of our guidance range. With Clearfield segment, net sales up 15% year-over-year. Gross margin for the period improved from 21.9% to 30.5%, driven by continued improvements in overhead absorption, recoveries of previously reserved excess inventory, as well as optimized capacity for current and growing product lines at our North American facilities. Net income per share of $0.11 was above our guidance range and reflects a significant improvement from the year ago period. We continue to make progress on improving product costs while also managing the cost structure of our Nestor segment. Despite lower revenue, driven by a redirected focus among broadband service providers toward operating rather than building out networks in some targeted countries in Europe, we saw a modest year-over-year improvement in gross profit margin for the Nestor segment in the third quarter. As bookings have continued to outpace shipments through third quarter, lead times decreasing with deployments continuing in a healthy fashion, we are increasing our fiscal 2025 outlook for net sales in the range of $180 million to $184 million. As Cheri noted, we anticipate annual revenue growth for the Clearfield segment to be in line or above industry growth, while we expect annual revenue from our Nestor segment for fiscal 2025 to fall slightly year-over-year as we continue to focus on improving margins. For our fourth fiscal quarter of 2025 we anticipate net sales in the range of $47 million to $51 million and net income per share in the range of $0.03 to $0.11. The net income per share range is based on the number of shares outstanding at the end of the third quarter and does not reflect potential share repurchases completed in the fourth quarter. Our guidance reflects the evolving tariff situation currently in place, which we do not believe will materially affect our operating results. And with that, we will open the call to your questions.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] And our first question today comes from Ryan Koontz from Needham & Company.

Ryan Boyer Koontz

Analyst

I wanted to ask about -- typically do around product mix and for your core Clearfield business, are you still seeing abnormally high Connected Home relative to what you consider norm? Or are you seeing that come back in more to balance? Any thoughts on that?

Cheryl P. Beranek

Analyst

We're definitely seeing the product mix for the past home come back to a more normalized cadence. I think that's reflective of the fact that there were a lot of cabinets that were sitting in yards over the course of last year, and we're not seeing that as much this year. So we're definitely seeing an increase in cabinet sales. That said, we are seeing also an increase in the connected home as we enhance our share in the connected home revenue. So it's a little bit of both in regard to where we see the product mix for this year over last year.

Ryan Boyer Koontz

Analyst

Great. And yes, just reflecting to last year, I know there were some inventory impact to last year and the core business is up a bit, I think you said teens percentage year-over-year. Is that still aligned with what you've -- coming out of this quarter, what you've said before that the core Clearfield business is up double digits over last year on the inventory impacts last year?

Cheryl P. Beranek

Analyst

Right. Clearfield, our Clearfield segment is up 15% year-over-year for the quarter. And so even though the total revenues showed a 2% increase, total revenues were negatively impacted by, unfortunately, our performance under the Nestor segment. Clearfield continues to do very strong in our markets, principally driven this year and this quarter by our large regional and MSO business.

Ryan Boyer Koontz

Analyst

Got it. And your new products introduced for connected home...

Cheryl P. Beranek

Analyst

The Home Deployment Kits are doing really well and we're...

Ryan Boyer Koontz

Analyst

SeeClear, what was that called?

Cheryl P. Beranek

Analyst

They are called the Home Deployment Kits, and so these provide the opportunity to actually connect the physical home with our drop cables and with a device that sits on the home itself. And that by doing that, the one installer can do work, that was previously done by two. And so we're seeing some trials that have been underway now turning into ongoing revenue and new trials being started in different places. So we see that as a significant revenue opportunity for us. We see it demonstrated this year and we're excited about where it's going to go.

Ryan Boyer Koontz

Analyst

Great. And then on the Amphenol acquisition of CommScope's Connectivity business and cabling. Any commentary there on what you think that means for the industry?

Cheryl P. Beranek

Analyst

Well, congratulations to CommScope for figuring out how to be able to rebalance their financial situation. I think it's good for the industry that we don't have companies in financial distress. And so Amphenol's acquisition of CommScope, I do think it's good for the fiber industry. As they pointed out, their focus is the hyperscalers, the Amazons, the Googles and their deployment of fiber for AI. That's not a target of Clearfield. And so we see CommScope's focus there today and under the acquisition of Amphenol as being positive for them and not detrimental to us. In fact, our focus on AI is really part of our third pillar. It's the opportunity for not be serving inside of those data centers, but to work with our community broadband service providers, our large regionals and our MSOs to help provide the fiber that's going to have to connect those data centers together.

Ryan Boyer Koontz

Analyst

Great. And just one last one maybe for Dan. On the gross margin, you mentioned consumption of E&O reserves on the quarter. Was that material on the Clearfield side? Any idea how many basis points it was to gross margin?

Daniel R. Herzog

Analyst

Yes. It was probably about -- we -- last year, we had, I think, a $1.7 million expense. This quarter, we had like a $1.1 million gain, and I think it was about a 1.7% effect on it. And I do that based on our run rate, like if we would have just considered our run rate of recoveries from -- we beat that. We had like $1.6 million in recoveries, and we've been running about $500,000. So I figured that it be about 1.7% or 1.8% of a change from our run rate.

Ryan Boyer Koontz

Analyst

Got it. Maybe one more for you, Dan, on supply chain. You've mentioned maybe some tight supply as you saw extended lead times. Any particular area you can point us to where you see tightness in supply chain?

Daniel R. Herzog

Analyst

I think that's Cheri, you want that one?

Cheryl P. Beranek

Analyst

I would say that our challenge is still go to battery backup and some rectifiers associated in the active cabinet business. And so much of that is related to tariffs and is related to managing how that's brought into the country. We've been absorbing those costs rather than passing them along that's not -- and we're managing that aspect of it. The challenge just is, it creates extra time issues on the boarder, things that it has been difficult for us to get around. But like I said, we're -- our lead times have been better. On most situations, it's just those electronic challenges for the active cabinets.

Ryan Boyer Koontz

Analyst

Are you seeing any light in the tunnel as far as on-shoring or bringing it to North America -- battery? I know there was some...

Cheryl P. Beranek

Analyst

Yes, right. I think the challenge there is just the timing and how long that onshoring could take. So we're considering alternative suppliers at this point.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Jaeson Schmidt from Lake Street.

Jaeson Allen Min Schmidt

Analyst

Cheri, I just want to expand on sort of that data center opportunity you highlighted in the script. When you think about that market as a whole, how should we be thinking about that market impacting the P&L in a more sizable way? Is that a kind of fiscal '26 story? Is it beyond? How are you looking at that?

Cheryl P. Beranek

Analyst

I'd say there would be some -- I mean we have revenue today in the data center space, but not in the big hyperscale space that is causing the big numbers at CommScope and Corning. That's not a space that we've chosen to participate in because it's -- it would be detrimental to -- just the lumpiness that how we affect our factories and our ability to really protect our core. We do believe we can participate in the both the data centers that our customers are building as well as the data centers in our customers' markets and that are going to need to be connected. I think that we're going to start to see some of that revenue slightly in '26 but more importantly, in '27 at least that's what we're seeing at this point in time. We do have new products under development, and we have made some investments in product marketing resources that to evaluate the right needs that we have there. So those are some exciting new additions to bring out like products but to bring our products foundationally using the modularity of the Clearview Cassette that are fundamentally different. So there's a long runway yet in data centers, and we want to make sure that we do it the right way.

Jaeson Allen Min Schmidt

Analyst

That's really helpful. And then just as a follow-up, how should we think about OpEx trending, the remainder of this calendar year?

Daniel R. Herzog

Analyst

I was going to say, OpEx probably trending slightly up here for our fourth quarter. It's -- we've got some trade show and some travel things going on, a little bit higher variable costs at the end of the fourth quarter with -- as we ramp up our year-end audits and a lot of consulting things regarding administration things.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from Tim Savageaux from Northland Capital Markets.

Timothy Paul Savageaux

Analyst

I have a question on the smaller carrier markets or really kind of the U.S. markets in general. So you saw a small increase, I think, amongst your smaller community broadband customers and -- but short of what you might typically see seasonally. And I know you referenced pull-ins in large regional. I mean, was there some of that dynamic at work amongst the smaller carriers as well? Or how would you characterize kind of what you're seeing here for both June and September is kind of maybe less than normal seasonal build.

Cheryl P. Beranek

Analyst

Right. Yes, the small carriers are the ones who have been the most impacted by the level of uncertainty associated with BEAD. So you've got small carriers who are not in a position to jockey. Lots of different builds. I mean they're going to put their engineering and development resources into the area that they think it's going to be the most likely or most prominent, and so we're definitely seeing some carriers who would have been building, expecting to have received BEAD funding for fiscal year '25 -- not building at all because they didn't have their engine -- not because they're not dedicated or committed to fiber but because they didn't have those other areas engineered and designed for deployment. So that's really frustrating on our part to see. But it doesn't mean that we're going to lose that revenue. It just means that, that revenue has been delayed because of the uncertainty associated with the mess that has been created in the BEAD program.

Timothy Paul Savageaux

Analyst

Got it. And maybe along those lines, you mentioned kind of industry forecasts for this low double-digit type growth rate. I know historically, Clearfield has been targeting growth normalized post these big ups and downs in the same range. Meaning, is that a reasonable place to start as we look out to fiscal '26 in terms of growth expectations and might this revenue pushing out a bit, add to that or have a positive impact on that level of growth out in '26?

Cheryl P. Beranek

Analyst

Yes. I think for -- at this point in time with the uncertainty with BEAD still out there. I'm comfortable with an outlook that's around the industry norms. We have been very clear that our goal is to grow as fast as the industry or faster in order to be able to take share. And we're in a position, I think, where we see that happening, in all of our territory -- in the large regionals and in the MSOs with really significant growth year-over-year. And then in Community Broadband, I think we're going to see Community Broadband providers not putting all of their eggs in one basket and not being entirely dependent upon BEAD's financing. So next year, we'll be more balanced than that. I would encourage you though to separate the growth initiatives on the numbers between the Nestor segment and the Clearfield segment. And so that's why we brought out in this quarter some clarity around the last 2 quarters really around some clarity around what is Clearfield's organic revenue and what has been the incremental revenue associated with the Nestor acquisition in Europe. So industry growth rates are a little higher for the Clearfield segment and then flat for -- it will be a little incrementally down in the fourth quarter for Nestor. But for next year, flat as we focus that organization on improving cost structure through a changing product mix. So that, that organization can reestablish profitability.

Timothy Paul Savageaux

Analyst

Got it. And last one for me. You're guiding kind of flat here for September. Any notable moves among your end markets below that, that are worth calling out up or down?

Cheryl P. Beranek

Analyst

We've seen -- I'd say while we had traditionally, we saw third and fourth quarters being where we saw the most of our revenues or most of our ordering patterns. Things came in a little bit earlier this year as people reestablished their buying trends. I think fourth quarter, we're going to -- our fourth quarter, we're going to see strong kind of continual demand from the Clearfield segment with the European unfortunately, continuing to be weak. And so you would see a similar mix between Clearfield and Nestor segment revenue in the upcoming quarter. In fact, perhaps a little bit higher Clearfield revenue than what we saw in third quarter.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] And at this time, I'm showing no additional questions, I'd like to turn the floor back over to management for any closing remarks.

Cheryl P. Beranek

Analyst

Thanks, Danny. And thank you, all of you who are listening to the call today, either live or recorded. We do not take your trust and our management team lightly. We are very bullish on what we're doing and confident in our strategic plan. I look forward to outlining that further for you in the months and quarters ahead. And again, thank you for your support.

Operator

Operator

And ladies and gentlemen, with that, we'll conclude today's conference call and presentation. We do thank you for joining. You may now disconnect your lines.