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Q4 2022 Earnings Call· Thu, Feb 23, 2023

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Operator

Operator

Greetings, and welcome to the Chatham Lodging Trust Fourth Quarter 2022 Financial Results Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce to your host, Chris Daly, from DG Public Relations. Thank you, Chris, you may begin.

Chris Daly

Analyst

Thank you, Vikram. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to the Chatham Lodging Trust fourth quarter 2022 results conference call. Please note that many of our comments today are considered forward-looking statements as defined by federal securities laws. These statements are subject to risks and uncertainties, both known and unknown, as described in our most recent Form 10-K and other SEC filings. All information in this call is as of February 22, 2023, unless otherwise noted, and the company undertakes no obligation to update any forward-looking statements to conform the statement to actual results or changes in the company's expectations. You can find copies of our SEC filings and earnings release, which contains reconciliations to non-GAAP financial measures referenced on this call on our website at chathamlodgingtrust.com. Now to provide you with some insight into Chatham's 2022 fourth quarter results, allow me to introduce Jeff Fisher, Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer; Dennis Craven, Executive Vice President and Chief Operating Officer; and Jeremy Wegner, Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Let me turn the session over to Jeff. Jeff?

Jeffrey Fisher

Analyst

Thanks, Chris, and I certainly appreciate everyone joining us this morning for our call. Before talking about the fourth quarter and 2023 generally, I'm going to spend a few minutes highlighting some noteworthy accomplishments for our company last year. We increased cash flow before CapEx nearly fivefold from $12 million in 2021 to $58 million in 2022. We reinstated the common dividend for the first time since the start of the pandemic. Last year, we had the highest absolute RevPAR of the select-service REITs. We drove EBITDA margins higher by 31% or 900 basis points from 29% to 38%. We opened the $70 million 170-suite Home2 Suites in Woodland Hills Warner Center, and we acquired 111-room Hilton Garden Inn in Destin Miramar Beach, Florida, for $31 million. Then we went ahead and sold 4 hotels with an average age of 27 years at a cap rate of 2% and 6% respectively, on 2021 and 2019 NOI. Strong, strong result there. Completed the refinancing of Chatham's existing $250 million senior unsecured revolving credit facility, with a new $250 million senior unsecured credit facility, and a new $90 million unsecured term loan. So we improved our overall liquidity from $199 million on January 1, 2022, to $376 million at the end of the year. By doing all that, we reduced our net debt by $82 million, and we reduced our overall leverage ratio from 31% at the beginning of the year to 26% at year-end. Our net debt reduction is second best among all the lodging REITs since the start of the pandemic. And for the first time, we participated in the global real estate sustainability benchmark assessment, most people say, GRESB, achieving green star status and achieving a rating 15% higher than our peers. We're very proud of that. Shifting back…

Dennis Craven

Analyst

Thanks, Jeff. Our portfolio performed significantly better than the industry with fourth quarter RevPAR growth of 24%, exceeding industry performance by approximately 50%, again, I think noteworthy as this is a relative indicator of potential outperformance moving forward in 2023. If you look at our portfolio for the quarter, excluding Silicon Valley, our fourth quarter RevPAR was up 3% versus 2019 on ADR growth of 12%, offset by a decline in occupancy of 8%. Pretty good performance in what I think Jeff referred to is generally our seasonally slower period. During the fourth quarter, 19 of our 37 comparable hotels generated RevPAR greater than 2019. And for the year, 16 of our 37 comparable hotels were greater than 2019. Again, a bullet point with respect to upside in our portfolio as business travel recovers to 2019 levels. Weekday occupancy in the fourth quarter was down approximately 11% versus 2019, which represented a decline from approximately 6% in the third quarter. On the flip side, weekday ADR was up versus 2019, each of the last 7 months in 2022, which bodes well as that business traveler continues to recover in '23. Weekend RevPAR remained strong, up approximately 9% in the quarter versus 2019. Silicon Valley, our largest market, continues to grow meaningfully over the prior year with fourth quarter RevPAR growth of 45%, but is still down basically 32% versus 2019. Year-to-date, our 2022 Silicon Valley RevPAR of $126 is also still down 32% to 2019 RevPAR of $185. Occupancy is getting closer to 2019 levels. It's off 8% -- to 68% versus 74% in 2019. The Silicon Valley EBITDA was $17 million in 2022, still below 2019 EBITDA levels of $29 million or approximately 41%. Fourth quarter air travel into both SFO and San Jose airports remains well below 2019…

Jeremy Wegner

Analyst

Thanks, Dennis. Good morning, everyone. Chatham's Q4 2022 RevPAR of $117 represents 23.9% increase for Q4 2021 RevPAR of $95, and was down 3.7% from our Q4 2019 RevPAR of $122. Q4 and Q1 are typically the lowest RevPAR quarters for our portfolio given the drop-off in business travel around the holidays and the start of the year and lower levels of leisure travel given the concentration of our leisure-focused properties and markets where summer is the peak season. In Q4, we continue to see business travel below 2019 levels and leisure travel above 2019 levels, although we believe, business travel will continue to recover, and that at some point, leisure travel could plateau or begin to decline. As we stated in our earnings release, January 2023 RevPAR was $92 and RevPAR through the first few weeks of February was $113. So absolute RevPAR levels are low for the first few weeks of the year. Our portfolio is generating strong RevPAR growth relative to 2022, and business is starting to pick up [ past ] early January, as is typically the case for us. We expect this seasonal recovery to continue throughout the balance of Q1 and into Q2. Just to provide some color on how this seasonal rebound has played out in the past, in 2019, March RevPAR was approximately 15% higher than February 2019 RevPAR. Our Q4 2022 hotel EBITDA was $23.3 million, adjusted EBITDA was $20.4 million, adjusted FFO was $0.20 per share and cash flow before capital was $2.2 million -- sorry, it was $10 million. And while we're starting to see cost increase due to a reinstatement of certain brand standards, wage increases and increase in staffing levels and increased utilities and insurance costs, we were able to generate a solid GOP margin of 39.9%…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] We take our first question from the line of Anthony Powell with Barclays.

Anthony Powell

Analyst

I guess a question on margin. So I think, Jeremy, you said that margins could continue to decline this year if those trends continue. I just wanted to drill down on that. You get 27% RevPAR growth in the fourth quarter, but GOP margins were down. I guess, they should be up in the first quarter given the rough easy comps, but how should I think about the RevPAR growth needed to maintain margins throughout the year? I know there could be one-time issues, staffing up and whatnot. So just more color there would be great.

Jeremy Wegner

Analyst

Look, I think our plan is not to give guidance at this point. I think you would need RevPAR growth in the double-digits for the year to get to flat GOP margins, though.

Anthony Powell

Analyst

Is that mainly just incremental wage growth, insurance cost, taxes, maybe -- what's driving that kind of requirement on a GOP basis?

Jeremy Wegner

Analyst

Yes, on the GOP side, it doesn't include taxes, although property tax go up meaningfully and will impact EBITDA margins. But on the GOP margin side, it's both wage increases given the inflation we're seeing and also kind of a recovery of staffing levels, again, in the pandemic, especially through -- the first 3 quarters of last year's staffing levels were very low with the hotels. And then we're continuing to see large increases in other costs as well. Things like utilities are up based on kind of our internal estimates up about 13% next year. So -- and then on the property insurance side, I think those are expected to increase over 20% as well. So there's a lot of cost pressures.

Dennis Craven

Analyst

Yes. I mean, I think just to add to what Jeremy was saying. I mean, obviously, I think you've heard from other REITs as well, and we're all kind of in a process where RevPAR growth year-over-year is pretty strong in the first quarter given the Omicron comparison. But I think as you've heard from most people, typically, you would see some pretty good expansion and a plus 20% RevPAR scenario that I think we saw in the fourth quarter. But in fact, our operating margins, as we indicated in our release, were down approximately 100 basis points or so. So I think it's certainly a challenging environment from an expense standpoint at the moment.

Anthony Powell

Analyst

Maybe on Silicon Valley, and I think you talked about how the training business should be back this year. What about other business like product launches, things like that? What's your conversation like with the big tech firms in Silicon Valley in terms of just overall business volumes in 2023?

Jeffrey Fisher

Analyst

Yes. I will tell you that our team certainly were not surprised, but not overly encouraged by November and December, the lack of activity generally in Silicon Valley, and that continued into January for the other kind of business travel. And then, all of a sudden, in February, things have really started to perk up and overall bookings in the market and in the 2 hotels, specifically in Sunnyvale, which are the ones that really drive our results, as you know, really started to look way better. And we've seen international travel, particularly, for example, with Samsung from Korea and otherwise, it was nonexistent through the entire pandemic, all of a sudden, booking substantial rooms starting later in this month. So we -- they and we feel way better, and this is some real time sort of week-by-week information I'm giving you relative to that. The interns -- and one reason why we're not giving guidance at this point in the year is, we want to see that -- are those contracts actually signed and conversations are being had around what the volume is going to be there. So I think over the next 30 to 45 days, those conversations should be finalized as well, and we'll feel a lot better about how 25% of our portfolio roughly based on old numbers should perform for the rest of the year. But it is significant and team feels much better about the level of business activity there.

Anthony Powell

Analyst

So I guess you should know by the first quarter earnings call kind of the plan for the interim business. Is that fair?

Jeffrey Fisher

Analyst

Without a doubt, that's the plan.

Operator

Operator

We take the next question from the line of Aryeh Klein with BMO Capital Markets.

Aryeh Klein

Analyst · BMO Capital Markets.

Maybe just following up on Silicon Valley. It sounds like it's moving in the right direction, but obviously, still meaningfully lagging. From a portfolio construction standpoint, would you prefer to have less concentration to the market? And could you maybe look to sell something there, knowing that prices are probably not ideal, but maybe there's an opportunity to reposition capital to another market?

Jeffrey Fisher

Analyst · BMO Capital Markets.

Look, I think there's 2 considerations, or way more than 2, but -- short term and long term. Long term, we've had a lot of strategic conversations with our Board and otherwise, just generally about how California feels. And we're kind of more concerned about legislative initiatives and things that are occurring on that front, that diminished value perhaps over the longer haul. So I think repositioning capital, as you're describing and cycling it into some markets, that have a little better long-term view and growth, frankly, is a good idea. In the near term, these hotels have great upside, and someone is going to really take advantage of us, frankly, if we're going to sell these hotels right now. Of course, there is multifamily opportunity. And actually, I'm going to take a visit out there and speak to some of the zoning official relative to how that may pan out in that regard, because very big numbers are being paid, as you probably know, on a per key basis, somewhere around $500,000 a door and more, for apartments in that market. So we'll take a look at that, too. I mean, we've always said these hotels are very well positioned in the market. And with some visibility on this foreign travel coming back, which has always been a big piece of our business, that's been nonexistent, together with the intern business, I think we're sort of going to hold them for the very near term without a doubt. Sorry for the long answer.

Aryeh Klein

Analyst · BMO Capital Markets.

And just maybe on flexibility overall with leverage improving and the balance sheet in good shape. Just for 2023, do you expect to be a net seller, net acquirer? How are you thinking about the balance there?

Jeffrey Fisher

Analyst · BMO Capital Markets.

We really do believe, after just talking to our friendly owners and developers that we've kind of established or known for 20 and 30 years in some cases, that there will be some deal activity in the back half of the year. And I also think that our friends at the various PE firms that have frankly been buying a lot of things, during the pandemic might not be as aggressive as they have been given the interest rate scenario. So on a relative basis, I think that bodes better for hotel REITs. So yes, I think we're net acquirers.

Aryeh Klein

Analyst · BMO Capital Markets.

And just lastly, just a follow-up on the interim program. Have they given you a sense of just what the volumes could look like maybe relative to this past year?

Dennis Craven

Analyst · BMO Capital Markets.

We're still in negotiations with that. I mean, we're obviously not the only hotel that get this intern business. So as we kind of work -- and I think Jeff talked about the time line, over the next basically 30 days, we're negotiating with them on volume and rate. So still kind of up in the air at the moment. The good news is, it appears as the programs are on both in Austin -- well, in each of Austin, Silicon Valley and Bellevue for, I think, all of the tech companies we've referred to in the past, that we've housed in our hotels. So it's encouraging at the moment, but still negotiating. And I think as we've talked about, we'll know in the next 30 to 45 days exactly what's under agreement and what our volume is yet. So as soon as we're able to talk about it, we will, but it's -- we're encouraged at the moment.

Operator

Operator

We take next question from the line of Tyler Batory with Oppenheimer.

Tyler Batory

Analyst · Oppenheimer.

Just a follow-up again on the cost side of things. When you talk about margin, that could decline year-over-year this year. Can you give more detail on what's in your budgets in terms of year-over-year increases for wages, year-over-year increases for insurance and then utilities as well?

Dennis Craven

Analyst · Oppenheimer.

Yes. I mean, I think -- I'll chime in and Jeremy can chime in as well. I think for just a general labor assumption, it's essentially, hey, we're averaging kind of 5% a year since 2019. We're expecting another 5% or so in 2023. And I think Jeremy already mentioned with utilities being up kind of 13%, 14% and property insurance up over 20% year-over-year. So I think the biggest item from a year-over-year perspective is property taxes, which Jeremy alluded to in his prepared comments, that we benefited to the tune of, I think, around $2 million in 2022 that from refunds. So I think those are your big ticket items.

Jeremy Wegner

Analyst · Oppenheimer.

Yes. And I think, Tyler, the other thing to point out on the labor side, it's not just the 5% wage inflation we're assuming here. It's also the fact that brands are requiring us to clean rooms more often now. So there's an increase in staffing levels as well. So while wages are going up 5%, housekeeping cost per occupied room are going up more like 12% or 13% for the year.

Dennis Craven

Analyst · Oppenheimer.

Sorry, Tyler, I think as you look kind of to 2023, I mean, similar to what you've heard from other companies, obviously, first quarter RevPAR growth is going to be really strong with second to fourth quarter moderating kind of to obviously much lower relative to first quarter. And I think as Jeff talked about, we should, given kind of our reliance on business travel, produce some decent RevPAR growth relative to the industry, even in those second, third and fourth quarters. But I think, as we saw in the fourth quarter in terms of margins, certainly, there's a lot of cost pressures in there. So I think just to keep that in mind.

Tyler Batory

Analyst · Oppenheimer.

So how are you thinking about the interplay between occupancy, building that back and rate? Just perhaps given the difficult environment out there in terms of operating costs going up, I mean, does it make more sense to lean a little bit more into the rate side of things, a potential flow through there? Or maybe you do want to build back the occupancy a little bit more to get back to where you were in 2019?

Dennis Craven

Analyst · Oppenheimer.

I mean, it's market by market, obviously, Tyler. I think in my prepared remarks talking about how many hotels that had ADR up relative to 2019, so certainly, it's as it always has been a supply and demand issue. So in markets like Silicon Valley and Washington, D.C., it's more, hey, we still haven't recovered enough as a market from an occupancy perspective to really drive rates. But in markets such as Austin, Texas and the Northeast and Los Angeles, I think ADR growth is paramount. So in general, we believe, our ADR growth is going to be stronger than our occupancy growth in 2023.

Tyler Batory

Analyst · Oppenheimer.

And then last one for me. I'm interested in the trends that you're seeing so far in 2023. I understand there's seasonality here on a ton of business travel. But I'm really curious on the leisure side of things, markets like Destin, you've done in Florida overall. Kind of what are you seeing -- Any indication that things are starting to soften a little bit?

Jeremy Wegner

Analyst · Oppenheimer.

Well, I mean, I think it's -- I hate to say it, but it's market by market, whereas our Fort Lauderdale Residence Inn even relative to 2019 and last year is still doing well, Destin is a little bit of a laggard compared to '19 and last year. But if you look to the Northeast Portland and Portsmouth outperforming still relative to last year and in 2019.

Dennis Craven

Analyst · Oppenheimer.

Even in the winter.

Jeremy Wegner

Analyst · Oppenheimer.

Yes, even in the winter. So I think of -- kind of what we would call more of our leisure markets, Destin is probably the laggard of the 5 or 6 hotels. Again, Savannah high leisure, really still doing well relative to last year in '19. So for the most part, leisure is still carrying the weight, and I think as you've seen that in a lot of the peer companies reporting as well.

Operator

Operator

We'll take the next question from the line of Bryan Maher with B. Riley Securities.

Bryan Maher

Analyst · B. Riley Securities.

Most of my questions have been asked and answered. But maybe for Jeff, given the backdrop of what we're hearing for second half opportunities when people go to refi. As you think about your markets and your product, how deep of an opportunity do you think that can be? My suspicion is it's probably not going to be as relatively deep as maybe gateway markets like New York and others. But how are you thinking about the opportunity pool there as you approach the back half?

Jeffrey Fisher

Analyst · B. Riley Securities.

Well, I think the good news for us is, we've only got 39 hotels. So we acquire 1 or 2 hotels, it really moves the needle and it really, really pushes our FFO up substantially. So it's hard to predict where and how much volume there will really be, but I don't want to get overly excited. I think you're right. I think that there'll be selected opportunities. We're picky -- as you know, generally very picky about the kind of assets that we want to own. And we want to continue to increase our focus on the extended stay segment. Obviously, it's 60%. We're still trying to push that a little bit higher as an overall mix. So that even further narrows the field just a little bit because we're primarily hunting for Residence Inns, Homewood Suites, TownePlace Suites and Home2 Suites. So in that way, we'll continue, I think, to put up the margins and the results that exceed for the most part, others. So we'll have to see how it plays out.

Bryan Maher

Analyst · B. Riley Securities.

And not to beat a dead horse on the leisure component, but it was pretty profound on one of my covered companies this week. When you think about your leisure-ish properties in aggregate and RevPAR this year, do you think that, that ends up being kind of flattish for the year or maybe down low single-digits?

Jeffrey Fisher

Analyst · B. Riley Securities.

I'm not looking for down really in those hotels. There's -- actually, I think we'll be up across the board or altogether, when you look at those 5 hotels or 6 or so that really comprise what we might or do call leisure for our portfolio. I think we'll be up. I don't think there's any huge pullback happening particularly in the kind of hotels that we've got. They are not ultraluxury resort hotels.

Jeremy Wegner

Analyst · B. Riley Securities.

But overall, I think a pretty low single-digit growth for those versus much higher growth for things. They're still recovering like Silicon Valley or the rest of the [ BT ] focus.

Jeffrey Fisher

Analyst · B. Riley Securities.

That's right.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, we have reached the end of the question-and-answer session. And I'd like to turn the call back -- the floor back over to Jeff Fisher for closing comments. Over to you, sir.

Jeffrey Fisher

Analyst

Thank you, and we really appreciate everybody being on the call this morning. We look forward to providing some more color and continued good results and better news as we move forward through the rest of the year for our next quarter conference call. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's teleconference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation.