Dave Williams
Analyst · Bank of America, please proceed
That's right. And so it really comes down to is what I'll just call the sequential acceleration of inflation. On average, we certainly expect more inflation in say Q2, 3, and 4 than Q1 or said differently, more inflation cost escalations in Q2 over Q1 and we expect Q3 to be a little more difficult with inflation than Q2. Sequential pressure, all other things held constant, assuming we don't do anything to remediate some of the inflation pressures. With that said Joanna, yeah, VITAS beat on margin, they were like what, Nick, roughly a fraction of 1% below what we thought on revenue Margins were a little stronger to the tune of call it a couple of million dollars. We try to avoid parsing things in terms of internal guidance on quarters, but VITAS basically came in our revenues stronger by slightly by 100ish basis point on margin that we're pleased with Roto-Rooter beat a little bit on revenue and definitely be beat on margin not to the magnitude of VITAS, but a pretty solid quarter as well. Relative to our internal estimates Joanna, again, I'll use adjectives not specific numbers, but underlying Roto-Rooter we were exceptionally pleased for a couple of reasons One of which was, we kept talking about what we expected was the pivot from residential to commercial as kids go back to bricks-and-mortar schools, parents start returning to a place of work at least for a few days a week, so we fully expected commercial to increase; restaurants, retail business, all of the above. And that happened at a 14 plus percent increase on the revenue. And on the commercial side that was a little higher than our internal estimates, but what we were super pleased at is we continue to have some really solid growth in Roto-Rooter residential, and that grew at a little over 7%. So from our internal estimates, we're seeing a great pivot to commercial without really what I'd consider any weakness on the residential side, margins are stronger because we were conservative on inflationary pressures starting right away in Q1, clearly it will kind of boil throughout the year. VITAS side, obviously, we're taking more effort to just maintain what I'd call a strong labor presence to maintain quality of care and plans of care. And we're -- just like I said, trying to manage the balance of licensed health care workers on the Roto-Rooter side, more dynamic. If we see inflationary pressures, we'll continue to raise prices if that's appropriate. And we have to look at pricing as a major tool because that maintains our plumbing and drain cleaners, and that's the enticement for people to come onboard to the Roto-Rooter team. So yes, we outperform internally. I'd still say modestly better than I would've realistically thought at the high end, but the reality is we are going to have a little bit of pressure going forward, but I feel exceptionally comfortable on our macro guidance