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Community Healthcare Trust Incorporated (CHCT)

Q4 2019 Earnings Call· Wed, Feb 26, 2020

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Operator

Operator

Welcome to Community Healthcare Trust's 2019 Fourth Quarter and Year-end Earnings Release Conference Call. On the call today, the company will discuss its 2019 fourth quarter and year-end financial results. It will also discuss progress made in various aspects of its business. Following the remarks, the phone lines will be opened for a question-and-answer session. The company's earnings release was distributed last evening and has also been posted on its website www.chct.reit.The Company wants to emphasize that some of the information that may be discussed on this call will be based on information as of today, February 26, 2020, and may contain forward-looking statements that involve risk and uncertainty. Actual results may differ materially from those set forth in such statements. For a discussion of these risks and uncertainties, you should review the company's disclosures regarding forward-looking statements in its earnings release as well as its risk factors and MD&A in its SEC filings. The Company undertakes no obligation to update forward-looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future developments or otherwise, except as may be required by law.During this call, the company will discuss GAAP and non-GAAP financial measures. A reconciliation between the two is available in its earnings release, which is posted on its website. Call participants are advised that this conference call is being recorded for playback purposes. An archive of the call will be made available on the company's Investor Relations website for approximately 30 days and is the property of the company. This call may not be recorded or otherwise reproduced or distributed without the company's prior written permission.Now, I would like to turn the call over to Timothy Wallace, Chairman, Chief Executive Officer and President of Community Healthcare Trust Incorporated.

Timothy Wallace

Management

Good morning and thank you everyone for joining us today for our 2019 fourth quarter conference call. On the call with me today is Dave Dupuy, our Chief Financial Officer; Page Barnes, our Chief Operating Officer; and Leigh Ann Stach, our Chief Accounting Officer.Again as is our normal process, our earnings announcement and supplemental data report were released last night and filed with an 8-K and our Annual Report on Form 10-K was also filed last night. Once again, as usual, we were very busy during the fourth quarter. However, it was basically business as usual. As you know we have an active ATM program in place. During the fourth quarter, the company sold 1,352,985 shares of stock through the ATM program at an average gross sales price of $45.73 per share. We received net proceeds of approximately $60.6 million at an approximate 3.63% current equity yield.During all of 2019, the company through its ATM program sold 2,674,347 shares of common stock at an average sales price of $42.84 per share and received net proceeds of approximately $112 million – $112.3 million. During the fourth quarter, we acquired seven properties with a total of approximately 113,000 square feet for a purchase price of approximately $34.8 million. These properties were 100% leased with leases running through 2034 and anticipated annual returns of 9.23% to 11%.During 2019 the Company acquired 15 properties for an aggregate purchase price of approximately $152 million. The properties were approximately 99.5% leased with lease expirations through 2034. So far in the first quarter we have acquired three properties with a total of approximately 56,000 square feet for a purchase price of approximately $11.7 million. These properties are approximately 96.1% leased with leases running through 2026 and anticipated annual returns of 9.1% to 9.5%. The Company has two…

Dave Dupuy

Management

Great. Thanks, Tim. Before covering the financial results, I wanted to provide a couple of quick updates. First as it relates to environmental, social and governance, or ESG, very shortly we will be adding a new section to our website at www.chct.reit under the Investor Relations tab that will include ESG guidelines and policies. Feel free to reach out directly to me should you have any questions about these guidelines and policies.Second, as many of you are aware, we achieved large accelerated filer status, which required us to expand our audit to include an internal control over financial reporting or ICFR audit in compliance with SOX 404. I am proud of how well the team worked together to comply with this expanded audit and pleased to say that we are fully in compliance with these additional SEC requirements.Now onto the financial results for the fourth quarter and year ended December 31, 2019. Total revenue for the fourth quarter of 2019 was approximately $16.8 million versus $12.2 million for the same period in 2018, representing 38% growth over the fourth quarter of 2018. Total revenue for 2019 was $60.8 million compared to $48.6 million for 2018, representing 25.3% growth over the prior year. In addition, our real estate portfolio was approximately 90% leased at year-end.On a pro forma basis, if all the 2019 fourth quarter acquisitions had occurred on the first day of the fourth quarter, total revenue would have increased by an additional $294,000 to a pro forma total of $17.1 million for the quarter. From an expense perspective, property operating expenses, or POE, increased in the fourth quarter from $2.4 million in 2018 to $2.8 million in 2019 or approximately 16%. For the year POE was $12.2 million in 2019 compared with $9.9 million in the prior year resulting…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. We will now begin the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Nate Crossett with Berenberg. Please go ahead.

Nate Crossett

Analyst

Hey. Good morning, guys.

Timothy Wallace

Management

Good morning, Nate.

Nate Crossett

Analyst

Hi. Maybe you can help us size the pipeline outside of what you've already announced? What does the deal flow look like? Maybe you can give us some guideposts for acquisition volumes in 2020.

Timothy Wallace

Management

Well, basically Nate, and thanks for the question, we haven't changed kind of our approach to this from the very beginning. We’re still anticipating that in 2020 we'll close somewhere between $120 million and $150 million. We anticipate doing that in 2021. We feel like with where we've got our cost of capital at this point, thanks to all of our investors and the support of our banks that investing in the properties that we are – the margins that we are that we can generate significant returns. So we don't see any need to change what we're doing. So the answer still is $120 million to $150 million a year.

Nate Crossett

Analyst

Okay. What about just velocity of deal flow this year? Has it picked up or are there certain property types you're seeing more or less opportunities?

Timothy Wallace

Management

I mean – I think we're still seeing about the same amount of opportunities. And we’ll say, I think probably it's shifted some to what we've started calling a specialty behavior – specialty behavioral type emphasis. We see a lot of stuff like autism and other things that are kind of a specialty behavioral. We are still seeing a lot of stuff on the rehab side. We still see a lot of physician office in those types. I mean, we've got what I'd consider probably fairly consistent deal flow. And again, the only kind of internal change that might be to it is seeing more of this specialty behavioral.

Nate Crossett

Analyst

Okay, and then just one lastly on yields. I mean you continue to quote these very high yields. We've seen a 10-year essentially collapsing. Do you – what's your expectation as we look farther into the year? The numerator staying the same, even though funding costs continue to go lower?

Dave Dupuy

Management

We like our margins increasing.

Nate Crossett

Analyst

Yes.

Dave Dupuy

Management

I mean, people ask me that – people have asked me that for the last five years basically from the time that we did the IPO and the answer is I really don't see that changing that much. I mean – and I know for a lot of people, it's hard to believe that most doctors in America don't keep up with what the 10-year treasury is on a daily basis and there are a lot of people out there like that that own properties that we are very interested in that are using different metrics to determine when and how they sell versus what the 10-year treasury is. So we feel very comfortable right now that we can continue investing and generating the margins that we're generating.

Nate Crossett

Analyst

Okay. Thanks guys. I'll get back in the queue.

Dave Dupuy

Management

Thanks, Nate.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Rob Stevenson with Janney. Please go ahead.

Rob Stevenson

Analyst · Janney. Please go ahead.

Good morning, guys.

Timothy Wallace

Management

Good morning, Rob.

Rob Stevenson

Analyst · Janney. Please go ahead.

Tim, the four properties – good morning. The four properties under definitive purchase agreements to be the tech side acquired to be after completion and occupancy, and you talked about the fire at the one, are all four of those build-to-suits?

Timothy Wallace

Management

Yes, they are brand new properties with three different healthcare providers.

Rob Stevenson

Analyst · Janney. Please go ahead.

Okay. And – so basically when you gave the first quarter, third quarter, fourth quarter and then first half of 2021, does the rent commence there or is that just when they get – when they close?

Timothy Wallace

Management

That's – well, it's the same thing.

Rob Stevenson

Analyst · Janney. Please go ahead.

Okay.

Timothy Wallace

Management

They are single tenant, so when we close, the rent starts.

Rob Stevenson

Analyst · Janney. Please go ahead.

Okay. So there's no free rent?

Timothy Wallace

Management

I don't believe in free rent.

Rob Stevenson

Analyst · Janney. Please go ahead.

Okay. All right. That's always a good thing. I wish some of your office peers felt the same way. You've got around 15% of your leases rolling over the next couple of years. Any known vacates among the 2020 and 2021 lease rollovers of note?

Timothy Wallace

Management

Yeah, I think we probably have a couple that are probably going to vacate that's probably a total of about 15,000 square feet, 20,000 square feet. But we're releasing stuff as we go. So I mean I think what you're going to see is the occupancy stays pretty stable at right around 90%.

Rob Stevenson

Analyst · Janney. Please go ahead.

Okay. And then, Dave, appreciate your comments on the – some of the factors that drove the 37% year-over-year increase in G&A. But how should we be thinking about growth for 2020? Is that – even if it moderates, are we still talking about a number that's roughly $10 million at 30% growth, something closer to 20%? I mean what's in the budget for you guys for this year and are you guys needing to add any material people this year to continue to grow the business?

Dave Dupuy

Management

Yeah, most of the additions that you saw in 2019 were directly related to some of the additional costs that we had in our dealing with the requirements for 404. And so those are behind us. We will continue to add accountants and other staff based on adding buildings. But the G&A as a percentage of our revenue is going to continue to moderate into 2020 and we don't see any big adds coming up in 2020. So I think suffice it to say we don't give specifics with regard to projections in terms of what that number is going to be, but it is going to continue to be – come down, I would say as a percentage of revenue over 2020. So we don't expect any big adds.

Rob Stevenson

Analyst · Janney. Please go ahead.

Okay. I mean if I look at 2018, it was around 11.6% of revenue and in 2019 it was about 12.7%. So do you think it trends closer to back to where it was as a percentage of revenue in 2018 then?

Dave Dupuy

Management

I think that 11% to 13% is a good range and from quarter-to-quarter we're going to have ebbs and flows. As you know – I mean, the way our business works when we add properties we add chunks of G&A. And so, it's tough to get very precise, but I think that 11% to 13% range is a good range to use and we can – so I would just guide you there.

Rob Stevenson

Analyst · Janney. Please go ahead.

Okay. Thanks guys.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Drew Babin with Baird. Please go ahead.

Drew Babin

Analyst · Baird. Please go ahead.

Hey. Good morning.

Timothy Wallace

Management

Good morning, Drew.

Drew Babin

Analyst · Baird. Please go ahead.

Appreciate the accounting lesson, I have a lot to learn. But moving on to the corporate finance items, 9% of revenues expiring this year, I know you talked about kind of vacates that you are expecting. As far as leases that you expect to be renewed, can you just give an update on kind of where you expect those renewal rents to be? Should we model them as kind of just a continuation of the leases that are currently in place or do you expect any change there?

Timothy Wallace

Management

We don't expect any significant change. I mean, we basically have already taken care of a lot of those and see an upward trend probably kind of like what we've always said, 1%, 2% a year type of thing. So I mean, we don't think there's any significant above market, below market in the portfolio and even the stuff that we're releasing where there's vacating doctors. We're seeing that basically at or slightly above where they were, so.

Drew Babin

Analyst · Baird. Please go ahead.

Okay, appreciate that color. And if you look at the acquisition opportunities, including the build-to-suits that are currently laid out and announced, could you talk just directionally, you probably can on specific buildings, but what medical segments those are most focused in or geographies or kind of give an indication of where that growth is occurring?

Timothy Wallace

Management

I don't think that we have disclosed that. But you can probably determine it by what we've talked about and what we've closed relative to our clients in the past. I mean it's going to be inpatient rehab, it's going to be acute care side, it's going to be dialysis, it's going to be those types of things that from a sub-segment standpoint as it relates to geography, I don't think we've ever said where those properties are. So – and I don't know that I can quote it of the top of my head right now. So I'm not going to try to do that.

Drew Babin

Analyst · Baird. Please go ahead.

Understood, and just one question for Dave on the balance sheet side. Obviously most of your funding comes from the equity side and obviously the revolver and term loans. Do you expect anything to potentially occur as far as just new forms of unsecured financing or I know secured financing is something you probably don't want a ton of, but should we expect to see anything kind of new as far as the pattern goes this year?

Dave Dupuy

Management

No, I mean I think one of the things that we believe is a strength of the Company is keeping our balance sheet simple and that's really a tenant that from the beginning of the founding of the business with Page and with Tim is to keep the balance sheet as clean and as simple as possible and I think that's going to continue. We've been opportunistic as everyone can see in terms of issuing shares under the ATM.When you look at those equity yields, you think those are approaching our cost of debt. I mean right now one month LIBOR is 1.65%. Our cost of debt is right around 3.45%. That could come down a little bit, but that's really right on top of where our yield is in terms of issuing shares.So, I think what we like to do is, we like to stay under-levered. We like to be conservative with our balance sheet, but don't expect any meaningful changes or bells and whistles in terms of how we do that. We think keeping things simple is something that the market likes and frankly we like.

Drew Babin

Analyst · Baird. Please go ahead.

Great. I appreciate all the color. That's all for me.

Timothy Wallace

Management

Thanks, Drew.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Alexander Goldfarb with Piper Sandler. Please go ahead.

Alexander Goldfarb

Analyst · Piper Sandler. Please go ahead.

Hey, morning. Good morning down there.

Timothy Wallace

Management

Good morning, Alex.

Alexander Goldfarb

Analyst · Piper Sandler. Please go ahead.

So one, Tim, hey, good morning. First thank you for the explanation on the cadence of the presale acquisition. So that was helpful. Just a few questions, it sounds like, I don't know if the Highland is taking that length of time that you expected or not, but good to see it progressing. There was a reference that you guys would be available for financing if that was needed to facilitate the process. So can you just give a little bit more color on what may be needed for you guys to step in and if the process is going according to what you guys expected or is it taking longer?

Timothy Wallace

Management

Well maybe there's hopes and there is expectations. It is taking longer than we would have hoped and it's, yes, complicated in a number of different ways. But basically it's at the inland of where it needs to be we think to move it forward. So the answer is yes it's taking longer. I think the outcome is going to be the same one way or the other.As it relates to the potential exit financing out of the pre-packaged bankruptcy, yes, we may end up needing to advance up to $2.5 million something like that to get it out. They've currently got over $3 million of receivables. It's generating a lot of cash. It's actually – the new manager has done wonders with it. It was generating cash before. And if you recall, the old operator was taking that cash and doing something else with it. Well the new operator has got it generating more cash. So it's something that we're really looking forward to having out of the situation that it is and we feel very comfortable that whatever it is that it takes if it takes $2.5 million, then we'll get that paid back in a very short period of time.

Alexander Goldfarb

Analyst · Piper Sandler. Please go ahead.

And why – just to explain, why would you need to get involved in financing? Doesn't the guy have banks or lenders or just if you could just walk us through why you'd need to do the $2.5 million.

Timothy Wallace

Management

The new people want to stay as far away from the old problems as possible and we are heavily involved in the old problems. So basically we're going to provide a bridge from the old to the new. And again we're going to earn 9% on it, so we don't view it as being a significant issue. $2.5 million likely that is – the kind of what it would be. So if we invest $2.5 million be secured by all of the assets of the facility and make a 9% return on it for three to six months, we don't see significant issues with it.

Alexander Goldfarb

Analyst · Piper Sandler. Please go ahead.

Okay. And then switching to one of your favorite topics, compensation. You guys have been making an effort to cite the fact that you're off stock comp, including Dave. This quarter you also included a thing on the CEO pay ratio to the average employee. Maybe you could just a little expand is there – again is there a pushback from like ISS, Glass Lewis or you guys stand out as one of the few REITs that I know of that actively publishes this stuff regularly, not just as part of a proxy? So is this ISS, Glass Lewis or what's driving this?

Timothy Wallace

Management

It's good ESG. I mean the CEO pay ratio is something that's required by being a large accelerated filer. So that's going to be something that shows up in the proxy. We decided if we're going to put it in the proxy we may as well as put it in other places and because – again we're proud of the way that we compensate ourselves, we're proud of the way that we compensate all of our employees. And so, I know very seriously if what we were required to do was disclose CEO pay and the median pay we weren't required to disclose the average pay or the lowest pay. But when we got to looking at it we said we think we're proud of this. I mean and I forget the exact number, but I think I only make like eight times what the average employee makes. So we're very proud of that and we decided we just wanted to highlight it and so hopefully Glass Lewis and ISS don't have any more questions about it.

Alexander Goldfarb

Analyst · Piper Sandler. Please go ahead.

Excellent. Thank you.

Dave Dupuy

Management

Yes, and I would just Alex, building on that, because we are different than the norm, we feel like the more disclosure we can have around that the easier it will be for the firms out there that look at it to better understand what our approach is. And so we're just trying to air on the side of more disclosure and trying to be very – as transparent about that kind of thing as we can. And it's part of the ESG and it's just part of our effort to make sure we're communicating in the right way to all involved, all stakeholders.

Alexander Goldfarb

Analyst · Piper Sandler. Please go ahead.

Great. Thank you. Thank you.

Timothy Wallace

Management

Thanks, Alex.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Michael Lewis with SunTrust. Please go ahead.

Michael Lewis

Analyst · SunTrust. Please go ahead.

Great. Thank you. So you kind of addressed the questions on my list. So I have – I thought I would ask two hypotheticals that I think could be a big deal several months from now or maybe no deal at all.And the first one is coronavirus and specifically the potential for a widespread outbreaks in the US, which I guess the CDC thinks might be inevitable, certainly for most companies that's kind of rattled the markets. I would think for you guys not so much, maybe even more people seeing the doctor. But do you have any thoughts around that, risks of that or how CHCT would hold up in that scenario?

Timothy Wallace

Management

Well, I am going to go with a personal opinion for a moment and then I'll discuss some of the things that we've done related to it. But my view is we have some of these periodically throughout our lifetimes. I mean in my lifetime, I can probably name six or eight of these things that have come up. And what I keep scratching my head about is in America this year, I forget exactly what the numbers are, but I think there has been like 50 million cases of the flu and almost 30,000 people in America have bad this flu season of the flu. And yet we're seeing all of this uproar about the coronavirus when it's like we're talking about tens of thousands of people that have been infected with it and a couple of thousand people have died. I'm not trying to downplay. That's not a good thing. But on a relative basis, it's kind of like, okay, so it's hard to put that into perspective.Now how it affects CHCT, we think if it or when, because I'll go along with it, it will make it to the United States, I believe that, and when that happens there will be a slight uptick in the use of the medical system, which is not a bad thing for CHCT generally speaking. We have had discussions with various of our operators of what they're doing to prepare themselves for it. As it relates to how they're going to continue to provide patient service, how they're going to continue to keep their facility open et cetera, because that's probably where our risk is, if it affects our tenants’ employees so that our tenants can't keep the doors open on their healthcare facilities.And so we've done that, we've talked to some of the larger, larger clients and tenants on that and gotten reasonably comfortable that they do have a plan in place. They are preparing, they do have mass. They do have other things that they're doing. So that's kind of, I guess, my view and kind of how I see it affecting us and what we're doing related to it. Does that answer your question?

Michael Lewis

Analyst · SunTrust. Please go ahead.

Yes. That's a good thorough answer. My second hypothetical which may be it's less – well, maybe I shouldn't say it's less likely, I guess it depends who you talk to, but Bernie Sanders Presidency where you get a real push for universal healthcare and we talked about universal healthcare a little bit in the past, again that's another thing where you might see more doctor visits but maybe – maybe the reimbursement is in it that's favorable this could be a broader conversation for another time. But thoughts on that and how it might affect the Company?

Timothy Wallace

Management

Yes, I almost want to ask the same question Bernie asked last night. It is like how much time do we have, on a general basis, number one. I think the likelihood of it whether it's Bernie, Elizabeth, Pete whoever that the ability to actually get something implemented I think is extremely small regardless of what you think their ability to get elected is.If it didn't happen, again probably a mild positive because you will see an uptick in the utilization of the system. There will probably be a downtick in physician and provider net income. But regardless, they're going to need real estate to practice in. And real estate, generally speaking, occupancy cost is a relatively small percentage of their overall cost of practice. So, I don't think you're going to see a significant pushdown in rates, particularly in the types of assets that we have because – we don't have the higher cost assets to begin with. I mean we don't have $40, $50 a square foot on campus MOB space. We've got $12, $15, $18 space out close to where the community is. So if anything I think it's probably a slight uptick in the utilization of the system, a slight downtick in provider net incomes and close to a push on what happens with rent and real estate utilization.

Michael Lewis

Analyst · SunTrust. Please go ahead.

Great. Thank you.

Timothy Wallace

Management

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Sheila McGrath with Evercore ISI. Please go ahead.

Sheila McGrath

Analyst · Evercore ISI. Please go ahead.

Yes. Good morning. I was wondering, Tim, with your cost of equity at a very attractive FFO yield, what are your thoughts on the mix of equity and debt or managing leverage levels right now? Should we expect more ATM than typical?

Timothy Wallace

Management

Good morning, Sheila.

Sheila McGrath

Analyst · Evercore ISI. Please go ahead.

Good morning.

Timothy Wallace

Management

And that's an excellent question and one that we've kicked around some with it as it is. Basically what we've said from the beginning is that we put a 40% limit on debt to equity. We anticipate managing over the long term debt to equity and the equity being 65%, 70% of our capital structure with debt being 30% to 35%. From a long-term standpoint, I don't think that's changed.Now, in the short term, in the short run as long as we have the ability that we have, you may see us manage that debt band to 20%, 25%. But I don't think it changes over the long run. I mean, obviously, what it does, the more we issue and are able to invest at the rates that we can, the more great margins we lock ourselves into over the long term. So we anticipate accessing the ATM as much as it makes sense, you are not going to see us access the ATM and leave cash sitting on the balance sheet or anything like that, but over the short term you will probably see the debt go down as a percent of the total capital structure.

Sheila McGrath

Analyst · Evercore ISI. Please go ahead.

Okay, makes sense. And then on the strategic relationship side of the acquisition, it appears to be a very good way to add new product with long-term leases. Any progress securing additional strategic relationships for the pipeline and is that a like focus right now?

Timothy Wallace

Management

It is definitely a focus. There is nothing that we can announce at this point in time, but we do have several ongoing discussions and that was with Dave's background being in the investment banking side and dealing with the PE firms and some of those emerging providers, we're trying to access his role of action and I have challenged him and he's challenged himself over the next three to six months to try to access some of those and get some moving. So it's very much a focus. We don't have anything to announce right now, but hopefully in the next few quarters we will.

Sheila McGrath

Analyst · Evercore ISI. Please go ahead.

Okay, great. And one last one, just on the larger acquisition in the quarter in Temple, Texas for $19 million, was that part of the strategic relationship pipeline or – and if not, was there much competition for that acquisition?

Timothy Wallace

Management

It was part of the strategic relationship.

Sheila McGrath

Analyst · Evercore ISI. Please go ahead.

Pipeline. Okay, great. Thank you.

Timothy Wallace

Management

Thanks, Sheila.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Matt Boone with B. Riley FBR. Please go ahead.

Matt Boone

Analyst · B. Riley FBR. Please go ahead.

Hey guys, good morning. I'm on for Bryan. Just going back to your acquisition pipeline, as you guys are feeling that out for 2020, how should we be thinking about the split between acquisition of existing product versus adding more of that new-build product to your portfolio?

Timothy Wallace

Management

For 2020, I'd probably say it's 50-50 kind of, I mean, with what we know that we're doing and what we can say just out of the top of my head I'd say pretty close to 50-50.

Matt Boone

Analyst · B. Riley FBR. Please go ahead.

Okay. And then which markets are you seeing the, I guess, most compelling investment opportunities?

Timothy Wallace

Management

Well – and we don't quite look at it like that. Again, what we try to do is be opportunistic. We don't choose the geographic area and say okay, we're going to invest here what we will do is we try to choose some operators. And obviously the lower cost environment whether that's surgery centers, whether that's surgical hospitals, whether that's the inpatient rehab even as a lower cost environment is kind of what we target and what we look for. But we don't have any geographic markets that we're targeting right now.

Matt Boone

Analyst · B. Riley FBR. Please go ahead.

Okay. Got it. And then lastly from me, it sounds like we're going to see some resolution with the Highland situation here pretty soon. I'm sorry if I missed this, but are there any other tenants that have kind of popped up that might be on an internal watch list that you could share with us?

Timothy Wallace

Management

Well, we have always watching tenants, I mean there is basically one other that's working through some issues, but we feel very confident on it and they're making payments and so we feel very good about it. But their own a close watch list, I guess you call it.

Matt Boone

Analyst · B. Riley FBR. Please go ahead.

Okay. Thank you very much.

Timothy Wallace

Management

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] This concludes our question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Timothy Wallace for any closing remarks.

Timothy Wallace

Management

Well, we would like to thank everybody for being on the call and keeping up with us and showing the interest that you do and we'll talk to you next quarter. Thanks.

Operator

Operator

The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.