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Cognex Corporation (CGNX)

Q1 2016 Earnings Call· Mon, May 2, 2016

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Operator

Operator

Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Cognex First Quarter 2016 Earnings Conference Call. Currently at this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later, we will conduct the question-and-answer session and instructions will follow at that time. Also, as a reminder, this conference call is being recorded. I would now like to turn the call over to your host to Richard Morin. Sir, you may begin. Richard A. Morin - Executive Vice President of Finance & Administration and Chief Financial Officer: Thank you, and good evening, everyone. Earlier today, we issued a news release announcing Cognex's earnings for the first quarter of 2016, and we've also filed our quarterly report on Form 10-Q. For those of you who have not yet seen these materials, both are available on our website at www.cognex.com. They contain highly detailed information about our financial results. During tonight's call, we may use a non-GAAP financial measure, if we believe it is useful to investors, or if we believe it will help investors better understand our results or business trends. For your reference, you can see a reconciliation of certain items from GAAP to non-GAAP in Exhibit 2 of the earnings release. I'd like to emphasize that any forward-looking statements we made in the earnings release or any that we may make during this call are based upon information that we believe to be true as of today. Things often change and actual results may differ materially from those projected or anticipated. You should refer to the company's SEC filings, including our most recent Form 10-K, for a detailed list of these risk factors. Now, I'll turn the call over to Cognex's Chairman, Dr. Bob Shillman.

Robert J. Shillman - Chairman

Management

Thanks, Dick, and hello, everyone. I'd like to welcome each of you to our first quarter conference call for 2016. And as you've probably seen in the news release issued earlier today, we reported better than expected results for the first quarter of 2016 despite challenging market conditions. Right now, I'm at our R&D office in San Diego. Everyone else on the call was at our Natick headquarters. For details of the quarter and outlook, I'm going to hand the microphone over to my partner, Rob Willett, our President and CEO, and I'll be available at the end of the call to answer any questions that you may have for me. So Rob, the microphone is yours. Robert J. Willett - President, Chief Executive Officer & Director: Thank you, Dr. Bob. Good evening, everyone. I'm pleased that the year started off slightly ahead of our expectations. First quarter revenue was $96 million, which was $2 million higher than the top end of the range we gave to investors in February. Notably, demand was higher than expected from logistics customers where we saw more activity than in 2015. Gross margin was also stronger than expected at 78%, helped by higher than expected product revenue. These positive items combined to deliver earnings for the quarter of $0.17 per share exceeding the Thomson Reuters' first core consensus estimate of $0.11 per share. Let's now turn to the details of the first quarter. Factory automation revenue for Q1 was $90.4 million. We typically experienced a revenue decline from Q4 to Q1, and that seasonal trend held through again this year. However, revenue was also lower than a year ago, which is not typical. Notably, we saw lower revenue from large consumer electronics orders than in Q1 of 2015. Revenue outside of that industry did…

Operator

Operator

Thank you, sir. Our first question comes from Jim Ricchiuti of Needham & Co. Jim Ricchiuti - Needham & Co. LLC: Hi, thank you. Good afternoon. The strength that you saw on the logistics market, can you talk about that relative, was it stronger in the U.S. market, Europe, and to what extend do you see the demand in that area continuing to be strong in Q3, because there is a seasonal aspect to that business as well? Robert J. Willett - President, Chief Executive Officer & Director: Yeah, hi Jim. It's Rob. So we've definitely seen a significant improvement in our logistics business in the Americas, or in the United States really. And you rightly point out that that business is a little cyclical, but I think – or seasonal, I would say. And we expect the outlook for the logistics business to be good in Q2 and Q3. We're less sure about Q4 where seasonality can affect and particularly retailers tend to stop spending and focus on delivering around Thanksgiving, Christmas, and Chinese New Year. But I think we're pretty optimistic about the outlook for our logistics business everywhere. America is our largest market in logistics at the moment, and we expect that strong condition to continue through Q3 of this year. Jim Ricchiuti - Needham & Co. LLC: That's helpful. And Rob, when you talk about the consumer electronics business, the split between Q2, Q3, any feel for how that splits? Do you expect a larger contribution in the June quarter versus Q3? Robert J. Willett - President, Chief Executive Officer & Director: It's a little difficult to make a call on that at the moment, because sometimes where revenue will land for particular opportunities that we're working on, they can move. I would think we would…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Ben Rose of Battle Road Research.

Ben Z. Rose - Battle Road Research Ltd.

Analyst

Good evening, Rob and Dick. Question regarding North America, the pickup that you saw this quarter, I think I surmised from your commentary at the opening that that was mostly in logistics. Could you confirm that that was the case? And regardless, could you talk a little bit about various manufacturing sectors in the U.S. and what you saw this quarter? Robert J. Willett - President, Chief Executive Officer & Director: Sure. Hi, Ben, it's Rob again. Yeah, so I think the Americas market is an interesting topic. Yes, certainly we saw logistics picking up, and that's been a particularly bright spot for our business in the Americas. We tend to talk about the Americas, so not necessarily the United States, but – and I would say – but North America is really obviously where all the action is. In terms of some specific markets, so yeah, logistics would be our best performing. The automotive market continues to perform pretty well for us in the United States also. And then other markets where growth seems healthy moving into this year. Particularly consumer products and food and beverage are strong performing markets for us at the moment.

Ben Z. Rose - Battle Road Research Ltd.

Analyst

Okay, and just a follow-up with regard to Europe, exclusive of the change in revenue from the large customer in last year's Q1, are the same trends in terms of the end markets similar in Europe as they are in the Americas? Robert J. Willett - President, Chief Executive Officer & Director: Yeah, so I think the answer to that is, broadly, yes. Automotive continues to contribute for us. Logistics looks strengthening off a smaller base in Europe, and then, yes, consumer markets looking pretty good.

Ben Z. Rose - Battle Road Research Ltd.

Analyst

Okay. I'm sorry, and just one final question for me. In the press release, you specifically cite the expectation for consumer electronics customers' orders in the second quarter. And I'm wondering if exclusive of the large customer that's called out in the 10-K, are there any specific manufacturers that you can mention at this point. Robert J. Willett - President, Chief Executive Officer & Director: Ben, I think it's fair to assume Cognex is the world's leading supplier of machine vision and we're working with, really, all the major brands in consumer electronics and automotive. So yes, certainly we're working with all of those and we do see some very good growth opportunities with a number of consumer electronics manufacturers. So, that's certainly the case. I think with our largest vertical in 2015, so aside from the one large customer that we report in our 10-K, we do have a number of other significant customers in that space.

Ben Z. Rose - Battle Road Research Ltd.

Analyst

Okay. Thanks so much.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Bobby Burleson of Canaccord Genuity.

Robert Burleson - Canaccord Genuity, Inc.

Analyst

Yeah. Good afternoon. Thanks for taking my questions. Robert J. Willett - President, Chief Executive Officer & Director: Hi, Bobby.

Robert Burleson - Canaccord Genuity, Inc.

Analyst

Hi. So I think just the first one on the mobile terminals, the MX-1000 business, is that appreciably different in terms of gross margins once it ramps to kind of scale versus the corporate average? Robert J. Willett - President, Chief Executive Officer & Director: No, we expect Cognex-like gross margins in that business.

Robert Burleson - Canaccord Genuity, Inc.

Analyst

Okay, great. It sounds like that's gotten off to a nice start here. Are you going to break it out over time as a separate or at least kind of call out how the revenue's doing in that business? And curious when you think it becomes meaningful. Robert J. Willett - President, Chief Executive Officer & Director: Yeah, we have no plans currently to call that out. It's going to be part of our ID business and it's going to help us achieve that 30% growth rate for ID. As this business gets bigger, new markets like the two we've reported tonight, both ID markets, are going to help us continue to grow that pretty substantial business, now more than a third of our total revenue, at the kind of growth rates that we expect. I would say in terms of expectations this is a new market we're entering. We have a very innovative approach, but it's a market that I think, like other markets we've entered, will probably grow in sort of an S-curve, where right now we have a lot of units out with a lot of customers and they're interested in it, but I don't think we're going to see very large revenue this year. I think probably relatively small revenue this year, and I expect to see a meaningful contribution next year, and then perhaps we'll revisit the topic of how to report that as we move along that S-curve.

Robert Burleson - Canaccord Genuity, Inc.

Analyst

Okay, great. And then just a last quick one, you mentioned that you've got a pretty broad offering into consumer electronics, besides the large customer in the 10-K. And I'm wondering in terms of large orders kind of broadening out by OEM, do you expect that to start happening next year in terms of a broader base of customers driving the larger consumer electronics orders? Thanks. Robert J. Willett - President, Chief Executive Officer & Director: Yup. So we – as I say, I think we sell into really pretty much all of the major players in consumer electronics. They all have kind of different supply chain models and different projects that we work with them on, so it can be a little difficult to nail when larger chunks of business will come from companies in that industry. We certainly do have some pretty exciting and large potential projects we continue to work with on them, but in terms of kind of trying to tell you when those chunks of revenue will arrive or with whom or in which region, we really can't give you any more color than that.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Rick Eastman of Robert Baird. Question, sir? Richard Eastman - Robert W. Baird & Co., Inc. (Broker): Yes, thank you. Good afternoon. Robert, can I ask you, the Europe number that you disclosed was down 19%. Is that constant currency or is that a reported number?

Robert J. Shillman - Chairman

Management

It's recorded number. Richard Eastman - Robert W. Baird & Co., Inc. (Broker): That's reported? Can we get a constant currency number?

Robert J. Shillman - Chairman

Management

Let's see, constant currency – hang on one second, Rick. Constant currency year on year in Europe was probably – we lost about $1 million due to currency, compared to last year. Richard Eastman - Robert W. Baird & Co., Inc. (Broker): Okay, so the revenue – okay, the revenue impact of currency in Europe was $1 million. And then, I guess, maybe if I look at your factory automation business and I take out currency and I make an assumption on the large customer, it looks like perhaps that you are – in constant currency that factory automation maybe was up low single-digits. And I guess what I'm getting at is, is there any discernible improvement around the factory automation business without currency, without the customer noise? Do you view that business as having kind of stabilized or – how do you look at it? Robert J. Willett - President, Chief Executive Officer & Director: Yes, so, Rick I think your assumptions about up a small amount is correct. I think – I would say it's kind of operating in a relatively weak set of market conditions currently. I am – I've spent quite a lot of time in the last few weeks with our sales channel in Europe and in America, actually, and I would say, yeah, the European business is probably as you described it, sort of stable at a low-ish level. Automotive continues to look relatively healthy, but obviously, there's still a lot of uncertainty. And I wouldn't say the market conditions for industrial products like ours in Europe are particularly good at the moment. But they're not deteriorating or getting appreciably better, as far as I can see right now. Richard Eastman - Robert W. Baird & Co., Inc. (Broker): Okay, and then just one last question. On the large customer side of the business, I mean, the reference here is to a much better Q2 and then Q3. Is it still a solid guess to assume that the large customer revenue is tracking higher in 2016 that it was in 2015? That's still just a solid guess? Robert J. Willett - President, Chief Executive Officer & Director: So, yeah – so I think, Rick, we're under a lot of legal obligation not to discuss that customer specifically, so we can't really – can't give you much more color on that. Richard Eastman - Robert W. Baird & Co., Inc. (Broker): Okay, all right. Thank you very much. Robert J. Willett - President, Chief Executive Officer & Director: Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Joe Giordano of Cowen. Joseph Giordano - Cowen & Co. LLC: Hey guys, thanks for taking my questions. First, on auto, I'm curious. Are you seeing your customers actually spending more money or are you just taking a larger share of the overall CapEx spend? Robert J. Willett - President, Chief Executive Officer & Director: Well, I think our automotive business was up in the first quarter sort of a double-digits, just, and I would say we're probably holding share or maybe taking small amounts of share in that market. There's a lot of investment in automation going on in automotives, and there's also a lot of new stuff in automotive, whether – in growth areas of automotive for Cognex, specifically electric, electric cars, and investment in electric drives. China, although, we're all reading a lot about the slowdown in China, certainly the automotive market for Cognex and I think in general continues to invest pretty heavily in China. And then we're also – we have products, new products, in the areas of 3D, which is a new area for us. And that's certainly helping to drive some growth into automotive as well. So I think automotive is never going to be a super fast grower for Cognex, and it's our second largest market currently, but it is contributing nicely to growth at the moment and we expect it to go on doing so. Joseph Giordano - Cowen & Co. LLC: I think it's funny you say 10% is not a super fast grower, considering what we heard across the Street on most of these end markets so far. I think that's pretty good. Can you maybe discuss, in terms of your consumer electronics, not relative to any specific customer or anything like…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Jim Ricchiuti of Needham & Co. Jim Ricchiuti - Needham & Co. LLC: Yes. Rob, is it fair to assume that, broadly speaking, you would expect your consumer electronics business to be up for the year as a whole versus last year? Robert J. Willett - President, Chief Executive Officer & Director: No, I don't think so. Jim Ricchiuti - Needham & Co. LLC: Okay. That's helpful. And since you're not breaking out Japan, and it is a smaller piece of your business, can you talk about what you are seeing there in that market? Robert J. Willett - President, Chief Executive Officer & Director: Yeah. I'd say overall this year our Japanese business has performed a bit like the rest of Cognex. We've seen sort of moderate growth overall and pretty strong performance in ID. And then we have really advantaged products in ID, and I'm glad to report that our Japanese sales organization is starting to sell them more aggressively. And so we're seeing some nice growth in that area. But low – high single-digit kind of growth in Japan is, I think, what we're currently looking at. And there, I'm talking about factory automation. I'm not talking about semi. Jim Ricchiuti - Needham & Co. LLC: Okay. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Rick Eastman of Robert W. Baird. Richard Eastman - Robert W. Baird & Co., Inc. (Broker): Sorry to come back to you. Just two things. For the second quarter, just so I – maybe understanding the pacing here a little bit on the large customer revenue relative to the gross margin guidance, is the mid- to high-70%s range for the gross margin guidance – I presume that captures – maybe mid-70%s captures more service revenue, and would the pacing of the service revenue fall more towards Q3? Is that how we should think of the cadence on the gross margin line? Robert J. Willett - President, Chief Executive Officer & Director: Well, I think you're right that we can expect more service revenue in Q2 than in Q1, but I think we're going to see that, as you suggest, also spread across Q2 and Q3. So without getting too specific, I would say we will see a little bit of gross margin erosion in Q3 as a result of more service revenue, but still mid- to high-70% range is where we peg gross margins coming in in Q2. Richard Eastman - Robert W. Baird & Co., Inc. (Broker): Okay. All right. That's reasonable. And then, Dr. Bob, I want to maybe lob a question in your direction here.

Robert J. Shillman - Chairman

Management

Yeah, sure. Richard Eastman - Robert W. Baird & Co., Inc. (Broker): Is there anything in this – anything on the autonomous vehicle side, any developments that maybe put that market back on the radar screen or do we kind of stay in automotive on the production side where we've had so much success?

Robert J. Shillman - Chairman

Management

Yeah, we're very aware, of course, of the application of artificial intelligence not only in the factory, which is where we dominate, but in other applications, such as intelligent transportation and autonomous vehicles. Though our experience to-date, and as you may know – you have covered us for some time – when we had acquired a company with significant intellectual property that applied directly to autonomous vehicles, that is lane guidance to make sure a car stays in lane, our experience was that although we had had a lot of technology, and a lot more is necessary to guide a car, of course, through cities, that the business model for it was very difficult. We found that it was fraught with price pressures and protection of property, intellectual property and also the problem of liability. So, currently, although we are looking at it, and we have products that could apply to those kinds of problems, we prefer to focus our efforts on the industrial applications, which certainly, in our biggest segment, is in automotive and we are involved. And I think in the production of many of the – well, there aren't that many autonomous vehicles on the market today. But the one that is on the market, we're already involved in the manufacturing end of those cars. But I don't envision us being a supplier for product or technology that will be part of the bill of materials of those cars. Richard Eastman - Robert W. Baird & Co., Inc. (Broker): I understand. And is there – when you look at how the industry is expanding just in general, I mean, Cognex is larger. Are there any inspection or measurement technologies that maybe stray somewhat from vision? I mean, because Cognex, obviously, being a software – there's other very software-intensive measurement technologies out there, and you mentioned earlier artificial intelligence. But I'm curious if – is there any tendency for Cognex to think of itself as more of a software processing company than vision as you grow larger?

Robert J. Shillman - Chairman

Management

Well, certainly, if you look at our P&L, it resembles more of a software company than a hardware company, and if you were to categorize our engineers as either software or hardware, I would say that 90% of our engineers or 80% to 90% are software engineers. So we are truly a software company, but we see a unique advantage and a distinct advantage in not selling software and not licensing software. We embed that software in rather high-performance specialized hardware and more often than not with specialized optics. So the more value we can provide to our customers, the more money we can make because the money we make is proportional to the value. I'm not sure if that answers your question, but you can follow on if I haven't. Richard Eastman - Robert W. Baird & Co., Inc. (Broker): Okay. No, that's fine. I just – there's some things going on the noncontact laser side and, again, very software data intensive, and it seems like Cognex is still set to – carry over.

Robert J. Shillman - Chairman

Management

Well, if you were to categorize Vision perhaps as only optical, the capture of an image that people can see, that's one thing. But our technology does apply beyond that. We could look at thermographic images; we could look at x-ray images. The source of the image doesn't matter to us, actually. What we specialize in is the analysis of that image irrespective of the physics of how it was achieved. And, matter of fact, in our most recent 3D product, the image is captured using lasers to illuminate it and in some cases, the laser may be visible spectrum or it may be beyond the visible spectrum. So, our expertise is truly analysis of images using artificial intelligence methods, which means software, for doing things with those images that humans would do if they could see those images. And so, we are looking beyond, although our focus is factory automation and industrial uses of artificial intelligence, such as ID, which is not really factory, but it's part of a factory because if you're going to ship it, it has to go through distribution and logistics. But we're not restricted to that; we are looking indeed at other applications. The application of machine vision to control traffic is an area that we've looked at in the past and we continue to be interested in. And you could say the Internet of Things. There's cameras going to be everywhere, controlling many things or reporting many things. And some of those things may be profitable, but until – so far, we haven't found many markets that are as appealing to us, that have the growth and profitable characteristics that the industrial applications have. Richard Eastman - Robert W. Baird & Co., Inc. (Broker): Sure, I see. Okay, well, great. Thank you. Thanks for the answers.

Robert J. Shillman - Chairman

Management

You're welcome.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Jeremie Capron of CLSA.

Jeremie Capron - CLSA Americas LLC

Analyst

Thanks. Good afternoon. I wanted to follow up on the consumer electronics business, clearly a solid outlook for Q2. But Rob, I noticed your comment in the press release around the outlook for the full year being not any more bullish than a few months ago. So I'm trying to understand whether your outlook for consumer electronics is somewhat softer than when we entered the year and we've seen that kind of development pretty much across the consumer electronics industry so far this year, so trying to reconcile this. Robert J. Willett - President, Chief Executive Officer & Director: Yeah, hi Jeremie, it's Rob. I think we would say that our outlook for the consumer electronics industry this year is less positive than it was when we came into the year. So I would say that's true. And I think – and that's why in general our outlook for the year in general that we see at Cognex is about the same. We're seeing better outlook in certain areas than I think we had originally thought, particularly logistics, some of the more consumer-based markets that we serve, but consumer electronics, specifically a little less bullish than we were when we came into the year.

Jeremie Capron - CLSA Americas LLC

Analyst

Okay. And MX-1000, interesting development, I think that looks like a nice extension for you into an adjacent market. However, when I look at this industry and its current structure, the margin structure is clearly much different from what we've seen in the industrial vision applications. And also the growth rate of this mobile terminal market itself also looks significantly lower. So I'm wondering if you could explain your thinking process going into this market with large established players. How do you see that playing out for Cognex? I know you made this comment around margins probably coming in at a comparable level to what Cognex does today, but how would you achieve that? Robert J. Willett - President, Chief Executive Officer & Director: Yeah, I'm glad you asked that, Jeremie. I think the first thing to understand is we're approaching this market at a completely different way, right? So we're basically providing – we're providing vision technology and a rugged exterior, into which a customer inserts a smartphone of their choice, right? We're expecting most to be Android phones, possibly iOS phones. And we're competing with customers in an established market that has not provided much innovation or change to customers in a long time, focus much more on consolidation and cost cutting, and they're providing Windows – Microsoft Windows-based operating systems that are expensive and customized and not evolving in the way that customers really want. So we're providing a lot of technology really on the front end of the device that brings a lot of powerful vision at a low cost to us with a lot of our technology on it to customers, and then customers are leveraging smartphones, their own smartphones that they will buy, in most cases, although we can supply if they wish. And hence the technology, the innovation, the differentiation is there, and the margins will be there for us, too.

Jeremie Capron - CLSA Americas LLC

Analyst

I see. And what kind of price point are we talking about here? Is this meaningfully different in terms of the solution that you provide? I understand one need to add the cost of the smartphone to be comparable here, but are we looking at a significantly cheaper solution for the end user? Robert J. Willett - President, Chief Executive Officer & Director: Yes, the MX-1000 list price is – ranges from $1,500 to $2,500, okay? So – and then customers purchase a phone separately. So we are addressing the higher-end segment of that market, but if you look at new products being introduced by the two largest players in that market, they're the same or higher than those kind of prices, even when we include the cost of a reasonably priced Android phone. So we think a lot more functionality and flexibility and kind of the operating system that customers want. I will also just mention, Jeremie, that we've been studying this market for a while, and we've been talking to a lot of customers, and they're pretty close to our handheld barcode reading business that we have today. And what we're seeing is that Win CE and Windows Mobile, the concerns around that operating system are considerable. Microsoft is planning not to support Win CE and Windows Mobile after 2020, and they've announced that. So generally, customers are already in a frame of mind where they're planning to move to Android operating systems or, in some cases, iOS operating systems. So, the whole industry is kind of primed for a change. Customers over the last five years have become really enamored with their smartphones, and those smartphones come with a lot of innovation and technology and power in terms of connectivity and usability that we are leveraging, and…

Jeremie Capron - CLSA Americas LLC

Analyst

Understood. And when you compare that to your entry into the logistics segment of the barcode reading and the success that you've had there, are you – what I'm trying to get to is how do you think about the potential market share that Cognex could take in this $0.5 billion opportunity? Robert J. Willett - President, Chief Executive Officer & Director: Well, I'd say that our experience tells us that getting into new markets with a really innovative approach takes a little time. So right now, that's been the case of a number of new markets we have entered. So right now, we're really educating customers. We're learning a lot about their needs and they about our product. So I would reiterate that I don't expect large contributions of revenue this year. However, I would say what we would aspire to and we have plans that we're working on are we should – we would look to take a 10% share of that market, starting next year, over a period of years. So, obviously, we won't get a 10% share of such a big market next year, but we would hope to ramp towards that. And that's what we've seen in logistics over our time and that we aspire to do also with the 3D market that we're in the process of gaining share and entering now. So I would say that if it follows the normal patterns, it will take us a few quarters to get going. We should see some significant contributions next year. Over a three-year period, we would ramp. We would expect towards a 10% share, and I think in the long run we would aspire to have a higher share than that, probably approaching 20%. But I am really – this is conjecture at this point, and we're still learning a lot about the market, and it will be interesting to see what the competitive response is also.

Jeremie Capron - CLSA Americas LLC

Analyst

Great. Thanks very much, and good luck. Robert J. Willett - President, Chief Executive Officer & Director: Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our last question comes from Bobby Eubank of Chevy Chase Trust.

Robert Wilkinson Eubank - Chevy Chase Trust Co.

Analyst

Thanks, guys, for taking the call. So logistics right now, I guess, would be your third largest market behind consumer electronics and automotive. Do you think that will overtake automotive, given the growth there? And have you called out the TAM specifically in the logistics market? Thanks. Robert J. Willett - President, Chief Executive Officer & Director: Yeah. Hi, Bobby. It's Rob again. Yeah, so we talked in the past about – so, first of all, yes, I would say logistics is our third largest market at this point. We've talked about logistics being $250 million market. We haven't updated that number in recent quarters. We don't update our market sizes every quarter. But $250 million was the kind of last size we gave as the addressable market for the logistics business, and then now, of course, we've added on to that $500 million of mobile terminals, which we would classify as logistics also, and airport baggage handling, another $50 million. So, we've grown that segment significantly that we address. So, was there a second part to your question?

Robert Wilkinson Eubank - Chevy Chase Trust Co.

Analyst

Do you expect it to overtake automotive, and kind of timeline for that, just given the relative growth differences there? Robert J. Willett - President, Chief Executive Officer & Director: It's an interesting question. Our automotive business is pretty significant, approximately 25% of our total revenue or a little more. But I think if we map forward where the served market, the addressable market in logistics now, which would be approaching -$800 million, and if our expectations would be in the long run to gain 20% share in that and we think the automotive market is going to keep growing at approximately 10% or so over that time period, I guess those lines would have to cross, right? But some way out there.

Robert Wilkinson Eubank - Chevy Chase Trust Co.

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. At this time, I would like to turn the call over to Dr. Shillman.

Robert J. Shillman - Chairman

Management

Okay. Thank you very much. To wrap up, business conditions are difficult, and as a result, 2016 is not going to be a great year for Cognex. Nevertheless, we are still very profitable and we remain confident about our future and that we will continue to be the world's leader in Machine Vision. So I want to thank you all for joining us tonight and we look forward to speaking with you again on our next quarter's call. Bye-bye.