Robert Shillman
Analyst · Robert W. Baird. Rick, your line is open
Sure I'd be happy to. We also felt and this was I don’t know five, seven years ago, seven years ago or more that this would be a great opportunity for machine vision and the kinds of technology that Cognex is known to be able to develop. We did as you recall enter the business through an acquisition of a small company from Carnegie Mellon, that's been out from Carnegie Mellon, called AssistWare. But we soon discovered that the business opportunity, the channel to that market, was very complex we couldn't sell directly to the car manufacturers but had to go through a first or second tier supplier. We also felt that it was far too soon the technology was fully mature and not developed nearly enough. Although it could detect it could keep a car within lane that you need far more than that. So based on that at that time, we decided to exit that business I think that's the only example other than SISD recently where we bought a company and soon after two or three years later after realizing the difficulty of making money in that business that we got out of it. Now, times have changed and everyone knows about the Google cars nevertheless to guide a car without an operator has not only immense technical complexity, which requires a fusion of technologies a machine vision, radar, sonar and GPS. But in addition to the enormous technical difficulty are the legal difficulties of whose is going to be responsible for mistaken when it happens and compounding that are the extreme price pressures that OEMs put on suppliers of anything that goes in a car. Now automotive is a very strong market for us, but our market is served, we serve that market through assisting automotive manufacturers and component suppliers to automotive manufacturers in making and manufacturing parts at higher quality and lower cost. So we are solely on the factory floor, we are not a part of the bill of materials. And what we learn through the AssistWare endeavor was that when you're part of the bill of materials. There is a whole host of other problems ranging from pricing to the very large indemnification provisions that we would had to provide. So adding to that I would say that although you see, so you’ve heard a lot of – a number of reasons why we’re not in it now and I'm likely to get into it. Adding to that is the strong likelihood that although you see things on TV those are unlikely to become volume opportunities in my view for at least 20 years. It’s going to be 20 years before car manufacture before there is no steering wheel on a car and that's when there is a volume in your factory. If you think of the analogy and I'm old enough to remember this of automated elevators. It took I believe 10 to 15 years for people to be comfortable to get into an elevator that just had buttons and didn't have a person sitting on a seat controlling it. So it’s going be far more complex than that, we are not just going up and down in a tube with nothing to hit, but we will – the Jetsons will be in cars where there are other vehicles, other people, other dogs and cats and trees and all sorts of things. So although you see automotive companies interested in this and making parking systems and other things most of the reports that I read indicate that no one runs with those on, everyone turns them off. And that’s likely to be the case until there is truly an automated guided car which again I think is very far in the future. We like to invest in the future, but our window is three years something like that. We want to show return to our shareholders, and not only that, our engineers what to see the products that they design in the market in their lifetime. And I'll just give an example of that. We had a superb engineer I won’t say what department he was in, but he left for a fantastic what sounded like a fantastic engineering opportunity with government funded organizations and he is coming back after six months because he says I want to design products that will get to the market in my lifetime not ten years from now. So I know there was a lot of extra material here that you didn't necessarily ask for, but I hope I answered your question, if not, I would be happy to expound on more of it. But you got the drift, we’re not going to have anything to do with automated guided cars. However, we do have a lot to do with automated guided vehicles in factors that’s a different story. That’s a controlled environment and we see that as a very interesting market and we have a large customer already using our product in that regard.