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Cognex Corporation (CGNX)

Q1 2012 Earnings Call· Mon, Apr 30, 2012

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Operator

Operator

Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Cognex First Quarter 2012 Earnings Call. [Operator Instructions] And as a reminder, today's conference is being recorded. And now I would like to introduce your host for today, Richard Morin, Chief Financial Officer.

Richard Morin

Analyst · Stephens

Thank you, and good evening, everyone. Earlier tonight, we issued a press release announcing Cognex's earnings for the first quarter of 2012, and we have also filed our quarterly report on Form 10-Q. For those of you who have not yet seen these materials, both are available on our website at www.cognex.com. They contain highly detailed information about our financial results. During tonight's call, we may use a non-GAAP financial measure if we believe it is useful to investors or if we believe it will help investors better understand our results or business trends. For your reference, you can see the company's income statement as reported under GAAP in Exhibit 1 of the earnings press release and a reconciliation of certain items in the income statement from GAAP to non-GAAP in Exhibit 2. I'd like to emphasize that any forward-looking statements we made in the press release or any that we may make during this call are based upon information that we believe to be true as of today. Things often change and actual results may differ materially from those projected or anticipated. You should refer to the company's SEC filings, including our most recent Form 10-K, for a detailed list of these risk factors. Now I'll turn the call over to Cognex's Chairman, Dr. Bob Shillman.

Robert Shillman

Analyst · Needham & Company

Thanks, Dick, and hello, everyone. I'd like to welcome each of you to our first quarter conference call for 2012. I happen to be in San Diego today with our advanced R&D team, and I can tell you that they're working on some very exciting projects that we will be announcing later this year. As you can see in the press release issued earlier today, we reported very good results for the first quarter of 2012, results that even exceeded our expectations. And here to give you the details on these results is my partner, Rob Willett, Chief Executive Officer of Cognex. And for those who are interested, I'll be available at the end of the call to answer any questions that you may have for me. Rob, the microphone is yours.

Robert Willett

Analyst · Stephens

Thank you, Dr. Bob. Good evening, everyone. I'm pleased with the results we reported tonight for the first quarter of 2012. They were slightly ahead of our expectations. Revenue grew 4% over the first quarter of 2011, despite significantly lower revenue from the semiconductor and electronics capital equipment market, resulting from that market's downturn. The broad range of industries that we serve in the factory automation and surface inspection markets drove growth in the first quarter. From a product standpoint, ID products continue to be our leading performer, increasing 29% year-on-year. Gross margins remained very strong at 75%, reflecting the value of the Cognex customers recognize in our technology. Operating margins of 23% tracked with our long-term target despite the investments we made in new product development and sales force expansion to drive future growth. And we reported earnings of $0.33 per share, an increase over the $0.32 reported for the prior year's strong first quarter. Now let's turn to the details of the quarter. Revenue from the factory automation market was $59 million and accounted for 76% of total revenue. This level represents growth of 14% year-on-year. As expected, factory automation revenue declined by 5% on a sequential basis due to seasonality we typically see at the start of a new year. From a geographic perspective, Asia was our best performer during the first quarter in terms of percentage growth. Factory automation revenue from Asia increased 31% year-on-year and 12% from the prior quarter. Although a slowdown in the consumer electronics industry has cooled our growth rate, especially in Greater China, Asia is still growing faster than the rest of our business. On a sequential basis, growth was led by strong sales in Korea. Sales to the Japanese factory automation market increased 21% over the first quarter of 2011.…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] And our first question is coming from Zach Larkin from Stephens.

Zach Larkin

Analyst · Stephens

First off, I wondered, Dick, if you could talk about stock comp in the quarter. It was a little bit higher than it has been historically. Is that a level that we should think about or expect going forward? Or is it something that should moderate back down closer to historic levels?

Richard Morin

Analyst · Stephens

Well, it will moderate down. What we have is we issued some options in the fourth quarter of 2011, so we've got a full quarter's worth occurring here in Q1 versus what we had in Q4. So that will explain some of the increase. What we will have in Q2 is because, typically, a lot of our annual grants have been made in Q2, in Q2, we see the true-up from forfeitures or whatever that have occurred over the course of the year. So I would expect that the Q2, we will see a lower level of option expense than you did in Q1.

Zach Larkin

Analyst · Stephens

Then I also wondered if you could talk a little bit about, kind of, geographically, what you're seeing? I mean, is Asia, as we kind of get into the 2Q so far, is Asia remaining robust? Europe was a little more -- a little stronger than what I had initially potentially anticipated. And does that growth continued or is it softening given all the other economic woes?

Robert Willett

Analyst · Stephens

Sure. So you started asking about Asia. Yes, I would say we saw a strong growth out of many markets in Asia in the quarter, particularly Korea, as I mentioned. But also more broadly, Greater China had been slower through the back end of last year. Although it's a major growth driver for Cognex, that growth rate has slowed down through that back part of last year. But we're now beginning to see that accelerate in terms of what we're seeing in that market. So I think we're optimistic about China growth as we move through the year here. You asked about Europe. Yes, we did report some pretty strong results in Europe, and we're seeing continued strength in that market despite what we're reading in the press.

Zach Larkin

Analyst · Stephens

Okay. And then just one final question, if I may. I wondered, as you're getting more traction in the logistics market, is RFID or other types of competing technologies, anything like that, creeping up to be more of a competitive threat? Or could you talk to that at all?

Robert Willett

Analyst · Stephens

Yes, generally, we don't find we're competing with RFID technologies in 99% of applications that we're seeing. I mean, obviously, the cost of RFID is very high in comparison to reliable reading of barcodes, which is what we do. And the only place we do see RFID might be in very high value or much counterfeited pharmaceutical-type products. But it's really not something we consider or see as a growing competitor to what we do.

Operator

Operator

And our next question is coming from Jim Ricchiuti from Needham & Company.

James Ricchiuti

Analyst · Needham & Company

The ID business, looked like you had another very strong quarter. What did it represent as a percent of revenue? Because I think you mentioned it was up 29% year-over-year.

Richard Morin

Analyst · Needham & Company

Yes, that was the growth percentage. Let me see here.

James Ricchiuti

Analyst · Needham & Company

Dick, maybe while you're looking for that, Rob, are there any wins in the logistics market that you can point to with DataMan or perhaps the broader ID business that gives us a little bit better sense of the growth that you're seeing in that particular segment of the ID market?

Robert Willett

Analyst · Needham & Company

Yes. I think we're still at the early stage of kind of the logistics market adopting the technology that we have. But we're seeing -- and we're seeing quite a large range of small-scale purchases among companies that we're targeting. So I'm not really at liberty to disclose names, but they are major players in the field. And we're expecting to see that business continue to ramp up as they see the benefits of our technology and adopt it.

Richard Morin

Analyst · Needham & Company

Jim, to get back to your earlier question, ID products accounted for about 21.5% of total revenues in the quarter, which is up from 17.3% in the first quarter of last year.

James Ricchiuti

Analyst · Needham & Company

Great. And I'm curious that you -- one of the areas of strength that you called out was Korea. What was that -- what do you attribute the strength you're seeing in the Korean market? Any particular vertical?

Robert Willett

Analyst · Needham & Company

Well, Korea I think as an economy, particularly in electronics, is doing extremely well. I think it's absorbed quite a lot of electronics manufacturing market from Japan over the last few years. And then, obviously, it's a major market for smartphone manufacture. So certainly that's one industry where we're seeing a lot of growth.

James Ricchiuti

Analyst · Needham & Company

Okay. So much of that coming from the electronics market. And it sounds like that portion of the business, if you include SEMI, it does sound like it's bottomed and potentially you'd see that improving as you go through the year?

Robert Willett

Analyst · Needham & Company

Yes, we're cautiously optimistic about that, yes.

James Ricchiuti

Analyst · Needham & Company

Okay. Any target in mind, just switching gears, looking at the Mitsubishi channel? Any target as you look at that business this year? It sounds -- you sound somewhat encouraged by what you're seeing in that market, at least from the factory automation side. How do you see that business in 2012?

Robert Willett

Analyst · Needham & Company

Yes. So in terms of market, it serves the very broad base of factory automation markets in Japan. So there are more than 1,000 Mitsubishi distributor salespeople with In-Sight and our other products in their bag. We exited last year about a $10 million run rate on that business, and we would expect it to grow faster than our business overall this year.

Operator

Operator

And our next question -- we'll take our next question coming from Ben Rose from Battle Road Research.

Ben Rose

Analyst · Battle Road Research

I wanted to ask you a little bit about your initial thoughts on the In-Sight 7000, whether it's meeting your expectations? And do you see the product more as kind of a classic upgrade to the core machine vision system? Or are you seeing evidence of it perhaps expanding your opportunities into new markets?

Robert Willett

Analyst · Battle Road Research

Yes. So the In-Sight 7000, which we began rolling out at the start of this year, it's very compact, very powerful addition to our In-Sight line. Initially, we're targeting that particularly at some of the lower-priced points in the vision systems market where, traditionally, we have not been as strong a player as in other areas in the market. So -- and that, obviously, particularly applies to emerging markets, where there's a demand for lower price point, easier-to-use powerful vision. So that's where we're starting out. But we do expect that product to broaden its served market over time.

Ben Rose

Analyst · Battle Road Research

Okay. And then also, Rob, just a question in terms of competition. Are you seeing any new developments from Keyence and SICK in the North American market? Meaning, from your perspective, have they upped their presence in the market or is it sort of business as usual?

Robert Willett

Analyst · Battle Road Research

We continue to see them present in this market and we continue to see them investing. But in terms of any quantum change in what they're doing, no, there's nothing to report there.

Operator

Operator

And we'll take our next question coming from Jagadish Iyer from Piper Jaffray.

Jagadish Iyer

Analyst · Piper Jaffray

Two questions. So first on -- how should we think about your web and surface inspection on a year-over-year growth for 2012? And as a follow up, I just wanted to understand how -- what are the margins now? Have they improved from last year? Can you give us some idea on that.

Robert Willett

Analyst · Piper Jaffray

Just to clarify your question, you're asking about the SISD surface inspection business both in terms of growth and margin?

Jagadish Iyer

Analyst · Piper Jaffray

Yes.

Robert Willett

Analyst · Piper Jaffray

Yes. Great, okay, yes. So we're very pleased with how our surface inspection business has been performing over the last year or so. We saw it increase 20% year-on-year in the first quarter. And we've also seen our margins in that business, operating margins, improve significantly from high single digits to right around 20% today. So we've seen a lot of improvement and a lot of stronger management and focus and operational improvement in that business. Generally, we don't give targets for the full year, but we do expect to see that business continue to growth -- to grow and continue to report strong margins in 2012.

Jagadish Iyer

Analyst · Piper Jaffray

And the other thing is that given that your Vision Systems has higher margins, how would you kind of look at that gross margin trajectory as you progress through the year?

Robert Willett

Analyst · Piper Jaffray

Yes. So we've reported gross margins of 75% in the first quarter. I think that was very similar to what we reported in the fourth quarter of last year.

Richard Morin

Analyst · Piper Jaffray

Yes, what we had was a couple of things that happened during the quarter. First off, the surface inspection vision business represented the greater percentage of revenues in the first quarter than they did like in the first quarter of last year. So that would have dampened our gross margin. But we saw improvement in both divisions on the product mix and to a certain degree also absorption, especially at the surface inspection division. So pretty much as we take a look at our current level of business and expectations, we would pretty much expect to be at around the 70 -- or be able to continue at around the 75% quarter-on-quarter.

Jagadish Iyer

Analyst · Piper Jaffray

Fair enough. And just I had a quick -- just wanted to get this clarification. What level of penetration do you think you have on the DataMan 302? Do you sell it to the equipment vendors or directly to the wafer or the cell manufacturers? For the DataMan 302, I just wanted to find out, do you sell it to the equipment vendors or directly to the wafers or cell manufacturers?

Robert Willett

Analyst · Piper Jaffray

So the DataMan 300 family is a broad-based factory automation product, right? So we sell it into all of our major factory automation markets, major ones would include automotive and electronics, and we're also targeting logistics. But it's a very broadly sold product. It's -- although it can be sold into SEMI and other -- like solar applications, the main target is really factory automation.

Operator

Operator

And our next question is coming from Richard Eastman from Robert W. Baird.

Richard Eastman

Analyst · Robert W. Baird

Robert, if we just look at the Americas and we look at the 3 primary businesses, the factory automation, SISD and SEMI OEM. I'm curious, factory automation, you said, was up plus 8%. But what did SISD and SEMI do to aggregate to a 4% growth rate?

Robert Willett

Analyst · Robert W. Baird

Sure. Dick, can you...

Richard Morin

Analyst · Robert W. Baird

Yes, let me take a look here. You're talking about -- we had a decline in -- the 4% was that quarter...

Robert Willett

Analyst · Robert W. Baird

8% over the first quarter of last year.

Richard Morin

Analyst · Robert W. Baird

Okay. Yes, that was in -- it was plus 8%, factory automation; minus 48% in SEMI and plus roughly 26% on surface inspection.

Richard Eastman

Analyst · Robert W. Baird

I see, okay. And so if I -- so let me ask another question. When I just look at factory automation now across Cognex and we have this -- we have the 13% growth in the quarter. And you have in the past been pretty adamant about targeting 20% for that business, for factory automation. And when I'm looking at the growth rates that you provided, I guess I'm curious maybe where we need -- we're a little bit softer, and I guess it's Americas. And I'm trying to figure out, what end market might be holding us back a little bit in FA Americas?

Robert Willett

Analyst · Robert W. Baird

So I think we've reported a 14% year-on-year growth in factory automation, right, in the first quarter. I think one area where we've seen headwind on growth is in the solar market. So a year ago we were seeing very strong orders, particularly in Europe and in America, on solar. And we sized that kind of headwind this quarter and probably next quarter at about $3 million. So if you add that growth back in, then we're getting more into the high teens.

Richard Eastman

Analyst · Robert W. Baird

Okay, all right. And then just one last question for Dick. On -- in the, I think it's in the working capital on the balance sheet, there's a $6 million use of cash. I think it's working capital, it's kind of other. And the swing factor year-over-year is kind of more like $8 million. I'm just curious, is that -- what is that?

Richard Morin

Analyst · Robert W. Baird

Let's see, 6 well -- $6 million when in the fourth quarter -- or the first quarter compared to year end, 2 big chunks make that up. One of which is the payment of dividends -- not dividends, I'm sorry, the payment of bonuses to the staff. And secondly, we had to make in the first quarter some fairly significant tax payments due to the profits that we reported in 2011. That was not as significant last year in the first quarter. While we did pay bonuses last year in the first quarter, we didn't have the significant level of tax payments because we had net operating loss carryforwards from 2008 and 2009 that helped offset some of our profits in 2010, and we didn't need to make big tax payments.

Richard Eastman

Analyst · Robert W. Baird

Okay. So between the tax payments and the bonus payments, you did not make those in the first quarter of '11?

Richard Morin

Analyst · Robert W. Baird

In the first quarter of '11, we made bonus payments. We did not make -- we did not have to make tax payments. And those tax payments were fairly significant. The other comment I want to make relative to your earlier question relative to the 20% factory automation growth target, we have not specifically given out guidance or targets relative to regions. Our target for factory automation growth is 20% on a consolidated basis. North America happens to be the most -- the more mature markets or whatever. And we would expect that our future growth in factory automation, percentage-wise, would increase more in some of the less developed regions like Asia, okay?

Richard Eastman

Analyst · Robert W. Baird

No, I understand, okay. And then just one last question for Rob. This OCRMax product that's being introduced, is this targeting the pharma serialization market?

Robert Willett

Analyst · Robert W. Baird

Well, that's certainly one market that can benefit from it, Rick. But certainly there are many markets, particularly consumer packaged goods, high-value consumer packaged goods, beverage, document printing.

Operator

Operator

And we'll take our next question from Jim Ricchiuti from Needham & Company.

James Ricchiuti

Analyst · Needham & Company

As we look out into the second half of the year, do these -- the headwinds from the solar market, do they began to ease? I don't recall. You guys started talking about weakness in that market, I believe, in late Q3, Q4. But maybe you can give us a better sense?

Robert Willett

Analyst · Needham & Company

Jim, winds and solar, you definitely got the renewable metaphor going there. Yes, what I can say, yes. We saw a lot of growth in solar through 2010 and through the first half of 2011, and then it really fell off dramatically through the back end of last year. So by the time we get to Q3, the comparables get a lot easier for us.

James Ricchiuti

Analyst · Needham & Company

Okay, okay. And looking at the Greater China region that you talked about, can you give us a sense, what was the growth rate in Q1 year-over-year? And how does that compare with the growth rate in Q4?

Robert Willett

Analyst · Needham & Company

Yes. So we saw our growth rate in China very high in the first half of last year, right? And then we began to see it slow, still pretty strong growth but slowing as we moved through the second half of last year, right? And then, in factory automation, I'm really focused on here, as we came into the first quarter, we began to see it flatten. And we're now seeing it begin to grow as we move out of Q1 and into Q2. It's kind of where we're at.

James Ricchiuti

Analyst · Needham & Company

You've put a fair amount of resources into China, Rob. Is this a market that you would think is going to grow well in excess of the target you're looking for, for factory automation as a whole?

Robert Willett

Analyst · Needham & Company

Absolutely. So yes, in the long-term, we're very optimistic about, and the growth we have seen over the last 2 years has been very, very strong in China. We see China really build early in its adoption of machine vision technology. And our business has tended to focus a lot on electronics in that market. But now we're really broadening it into the full range of end-user markets. And there are really great factors kind of helping our growth there, rising labor costs, more attention to quality and a much more demanding internal market of consumers in China, all of whom can benefit from machine vision. So we've been investing strongly in that market, and we're very optimistic about our growth prospects there.

James Ricchiuti

Analyst · Needham & Company

Is it currently a distant second to Japan in that area of the world? Or is it -- I'm trying to get a sense how big it might be.

Robert Willett

Analyst · Needham & Company

No. I mean, all up, it's only a little bit behind our business in Japan.

Operator

Operator

And we'll take our next question from Jagadish Iyer from Piper Jaffray.

Jagadish Iyer

Analyst · Piper Jaffray

Yes, I had a quick follow-up. I just wanted to get a sense for this OCR product that you guys talked about. You talked about these consumer packaging goods. Can you give us an estimate of what this market size is and what kind of growth rates are we looking at for the next 2 to 3 years, and where do you think your share could be?

Robert Willett

Analyst · Piper Jaffray

So what's called OCR, which is optical character recognition, is the ability for machine vision to read accurately numbers and letters on products, right? And it's something that's been done for 30 years or more by our industry, but it's extremely difficult to do. And our new tools in that space allow us to do it better than anybody else at higher speeds, with more reliability and more ease -- easily for users. So the size of that market really overlays on the size of our whole market. So it's a large part of what we do. But it's particularly important to some of those industries that we mentioned. But they do include automotive, they do include pharmaceutical there. And to give you a specific number on that, it's a little bit hard to disaggregate from the whole vision business, the market that we serve.

Jagadish Iyer

Analyst · Piper Jaffray

Okay. I just thought that it was something that you guys have increased traction, and I wanted to get a sense on that.

Robert Willett

Analyst · Piper Jaffray

Yes, yes, we certainly have.

Operator

Operator

And we'll take our next question from Ben Rose from Battle Road Research.

Ben Rose

Analyst · Battle Road Research

Just a follow-up question on the automotive market. I know, Rob, you called out in your prepared remarks the strength that you're seeing in automotive. It sounded like it was around the world. But I was just curious if you had seen any declining rate of growth within automotive in the U.S. or whether that continues to be a real standout vertical for you?

Robert Willett

Analyst · Battle Road Research

Yes. It certainly continues to be strong for us, Ben, yes. So automotive, in terms of what we reported tonight in Q1 results, looks like a continuing source of growth for Cognex in the U.S. and everywhere.

Ben Rose

Analyst · Battle Road Research

Okay. And you would expect that to continue into the second quarter?

Robert Willett

Analyst · Battle Road Research

Yes.

Operator

Operator

And our next question is from Jim Ricchiuti from Needham & Company.

James Ricchiuti

Analyst · Needham & Company

Dr. Bob, you referenced a lot of R&D work in a new product pipeline. Can you talk a little bit the -- maybe the timing for some of these new products and how -- and possibly the significance of these? I assume they're mostly for the factory automation market?

Robert Shillman

Analyst · Needham & Company

Yes, indeed they are, Jim. And for competitive purposes, I'm not going to state anything that's going to give anyone a clue about what the products are. But I will say that they're products that some of our competitors have and been making money with, very complex products and -- in the factory automation space. They are machine vision and space that we've never played in before. And we will have, I believe, a significant technological and perhaps even price advantage over our competitors in that product space. This is an area that our marketing people and strategic marketing people and Rob have identified by looking at some of our competitors, and we put a very strong team together of R&D people who are here in San Diego and also in our office in Europe. And then a productization team in Natick. So without telling you the date, it's going to be later this year, we'll be doing some beta sites, and expect some real significant revenue in 2013.

James Ricchiuti

Analyst · Needham & Company

Okay. And one final question for me. I was just wondering, how would you characterize the acquisition environment at the moment?

Robert Shillman

Analyst · Needham & Company

It's never as positive as we'd like. We have -- and we're in a strange business, and there aren't that many companies in this business. We've acquired some of them, many of them have gone out of business. As I've often mentioned, when we started Cognex in the early '80s, we had 100 direct competitors. None of those are around today, most of them failed, some of them we acquired. But it's a difficult environment for us to find both companies that have products or technology or distribution channels and which are worth buying. So we have one small acquisition on the horizon. I would say it's at the front burner now, and we expect probably to close it, I'd say, in this Q2, perhaps early Q3. It won't be a substantial acquisition. It's a rather small company, but it has some nice products and they play in a space that we're not currently in. So that's likely to occur, and most likely in late Q2 or early Q3.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions]

Robert Shillman

Analyst · Needham & Company

Okay, it sounds like we've answered most of your questions, and I appreciate all of you, your continued interest in Cognex. We had, as you can see, a very good start to 2012. I'm just cautiously optimistic. We watch the global economy. We're careful about our spending. We're delaying some of the spending, matter of fact, because we're cautious. But we, nevertheless, we're still planning for a growth year in 2012. Thank you for joining us tonight. And I look forward to your participation at our Q2 2012 conference call. Good evening.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, that concludes your conference. You may now disconnect, and have a great day.