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Cognyte Software Ltd. (CGNT)

Q4 2021 Earnings Call· Thu, Apr 29, 2021

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Operator

Operator

Welcome to the Cognyte earnings conference call. My name is Sylvia, and I'll be your operator for today's call. [Operator Instructions] Please note that this conference is being recorded. I will now turn the call over to Matthew Frankel. Mr. Frankel, you may begin.

Matthew Frankel

Analyst

Thank you, operator. Hello, everyone, and thank you for joining our first conference call as an independent public company. My name is Matthew Frankel, and I'm here with Elad Sharon, Cognyte's CEO; and David Abadi, Cognyte's CFO. Before getting started, I'd like to mention that accompanying our call today is a Webex with slides. If you'd like to view these slides in real-time during the call, please visit the IR section of our website at cognyte.com, click on the Investors tab, click on the webcast link and select today's conference call. I would also like to draw your attention to the fact that certain matters discussed in this call may contain forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 and other provisions of federal securities laws. These forward-looking statements are based on management's current expectations and are not guarantees of future performance. Actual results could differ materially from those expressed in or implied by these forward-looking statements. The forward-looking statements are made as of the date of this call, and except as required by law, Cognyte assumes no obligation to update or revise them. Investors are cautioned not to place undue reliance on these forward-looking statements. For a more detailed discussion of how these and other risks and uncertainties could cause Cognyte's actual results to differ materially from those indicated in these forward-looking statements, please see our annual report on Form 20-F for the fiscal year ended June 31, 2021 when filed and other filings we make with the SEC. The financial measures discussed today include non-GAAP measures as we believe investors focus on those measures in comparing results between periods and among our peer companies. Please see today's presentation slides, our earnings release and in the Investors section of our website at cognyte.com for a reconciliation of non-GAAP financial measures to GAAP measures. Non-GAAP financial information should not be considered in isolation from, as a substitute for or superior to GAAP financial information but is included because management believes it provides meaningful supplemental information regarding our operating results when assessing our business and is useful to investors for informational and comparative purposes. The non-GAAP financial measures that the company uses have limitations and may differ from those used by other companies. Now I would like to turn the call over to Elad.

Elad Sharon

Analyst

Thank you, Matt, and welcome, everyone, to our first conference call as an independent public company. With the mechanics of the separation for Verint behind us, we are now a pure-play security analytics software company laser-focused on addressing the needs for our customers and accelerating our growth. I would like to begin today's call with a view for our fourth quarter and full year results, followed by a discussion of market trends and outlook. In Q4, non-GAAP revenue came in at $125 million, slightly higher than we expected, bringing non-GAAP revenue for the year to $447 million. On a GAAP basis, revenue was $124 million and $443 million, respectively. The first half of last year was impacted by global travel and other restrictions due to the pandemic. The business environment improved throughout the year. We experienced sequential revenue growth every quarter and entered FY '22 with a higher software mix. With the first quarter almost completed, we are off to a strong start to the year. Looking back on FY '21, we made significant progress with our software model strategy ahead of expectations, and I'm pleased to announce that we now view it as being complete. We expect that the completion of this transition will benefit our future growth rate. For the full year, 85% of our revenue came from software, driving gross margin in excess of 70%. We believe our security analytics platform strategy is resonating well with our customers and is driving many of our competitive wins. In Q4, we continue to win multimillion-dollar deals, including 2 8-figure deals, and I will discuss a few of them later in the call. Next, I would like to review our market opportunity. We estimate our total addressable market to be approximately $30 billion, growing 10% per year. We believe there…

David Abadi

Analyst

Thank you, Elad, and hello, everyone. Our discussion today will include non-GAAP financial measures. A reconciliation between our GAAP and non-GAAP financial measures is available, as Matt mentioned, in our earnings release and in the IR section of our website. As Elad mentioned, we had a strong finish to the year with revenues that came in slightly ahead of our expectations. For Q4, non-GAAP revenue came in at about $125 million and adjusted EBITDA came in at $24 million. Non-GAAP gross margin was 71%, up 400 basis points year-over-year. During Q4, we won multiple 7- and 8-digit orders from existing and new customers driven by ongoing demand for our analytics software and our strong differentiation. For the year, we generated $447 million of non-GAAP revenue, achieving sequential revenue growth each quarter. Non-GAAP gross margin came in 71%, up 530 basis points year-over-year. Adjusted EBITDA came in at $89 million for the year compared to Verint's reporting of $90 million. This $1 million difference was driven by Verint's cost allocation methodology when Cognyte was still a part of Verint. As Cognyte was part of Verint in FY '21, we don't view EPS as meaningful for last year. Over the last few years, we have made investments to transition from a system integrator model to a software model. This investments are behind us as we completed the transition. We are now focused on accelerating our revenue growth with gradual margin expansion. We are pleased to report that last year, 85% of our revenue was generated from software, up 450 basis points from 2 years ago. Our long-term objective is to gradually increase the software mix up to a level approaching 90% of revenue. Over the last few years, we have seen a dramatic improvement in gross margin, reaching 71% on a non-GAAP…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] And our first question comes from Dan Ives from Wedbush.

Daniel Ives

Analyst

A great quarter, congrats as a stand-alone company. Can you just give us a little more details, as much you can provide on that replacement of the homegrown solution, in terms of some of the dynamics there?

Elad Sharon

Analyst

Yes, sure. Thank you, Dan, for the question. So many organizations have developed their homegrown solutions over the years, either with the help of their IT organizations or system integrators. However, with the pace of innovation required, closed systems and customized systems are simply unable to keep up anymore. These solutions are usually rigid. It's hard to maintain. It's hard to refresh. It's cost ineffective. And the value for the customer is declining over time. And this is becoming even a bigger issue for our customers because the threats are more sophisticated. Bad actors are also using more advanced technologies and better at hiding, and the potential damage is growing. So our security analytics platform is open, which means that it can be easily integrated with our customer ecosystem and its data sources. It can be frequently refreshed with advanced and innovative technology and keep pace. So in the example I shared with you earlier, this was exactly the situation. I gave 3 examples. The second one was related to a new customer who wanted to replace its homegrown solution with advanced technology. We had a successful demonstration, and the customer was happy with the results, with our ability to quickly connect to each data sources and being able to generate insights quickly. Given the fact that many security organizations are still using homegrown solutions that cannot address the evolving security and technology challenges, replacing them with our platform presents us with a significant opportunity. I hope this helps to firm things up for you, Dan.

Daniel Ives

Analyst

That's great. And then just last question. Just talk about, like, when you think about '22 and given pretty optimistic forecast, just walk through getting that level of conviction. Is it just visibility pipeline? You're seeing more and more of these deals. Can you just talk about that, just to give some color on the longer-term outlook?

Elad Sharon

Analyst

David, do you want to take this one?

David Abadi

Analyst

Yes. Thank you, Dan. I will take it. So yes, we have strong confidence for the year. First, we expect a strong Q1. And I shared with you, we are aiming to be between like $113 million to $115 million. Second, we see good demand and growth trends in the industry. And third, we have an open discussion with our customers and our customers looking for expansion. This kind of discussion increases our level of confidence, and we have high confidence on the coming year. And I want to remind you that about 90% of our business is coming from our existing customer base. And on top of that, we continue to win new customers. So overall, with these dynamics, we feel very good about this year.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Mike Cikos from Needham & Company.

Michael Cikos

Analyst

I just had a couple of quick questions I wanted to touch on. The first, I know that you guys had mentioned the improving backdrop as we move further away from COVID-19. And I just wanted to get a better sense with where we are today. Are you seeing things freeing up? Is that largely behind us at this time? And then maybe in conjunction with that, how does that affect your ability to get in front of customers and maybe accelerate some of the steel pipeline that you're seeing from the demand in the market?

Elad Sharon

Analyst

Yes. So related to COVID, COVID is changing the way our customers are working, which is positive, and let me explain why. We are working in the security market. And historically, our customers insisted to do everything on-site. And the COVID -- and this created the high dependency on travels and making the sales and deployment cycles longer. And COVID forced everybody to behave differently and shown us all that a lot can be done remotely. And the reason this is good for us is that it created a shorter sales cycle and deployment cycle. And I think these are trends that will continue. So yes, we see it as an overall positive impact. As of the position at the moment related to COVID, you know that Q1 last year was tough for everybody globally. And -- but we saw a relief along the year. We've had a sequential growth quarter-over-quarter, and we do expect this improvement to continue throughout FY '22 as well.

Michael Cikos

Analyst

And then I guess just another question. I guess as it ties back to this most recent quarter that you're reporting, right, so I think you had mentioned that revenue actually came in slightly better than you had expected. And I wanted to get a better understanding. What drove that upside? Was it your ability to win customers quicker than you had previously anticipated or maybe some renewal or existing customers coming in earlier than -- I'm just curious what drove that upside as well.

David Abadi

Analyst

It's David. So with Q4 arriving slightly higher than what we expected, a couple of million, mainly, as we mentioned, the demand is there and we were able to execute -- to deploy faster, and that allowed us to drive more revenue, and we were pleased with that.

Michael Cikos

Analyst

All right. And maybe next question, if I could, but if I'm just thinking about the forward outlook that you guys have provided, with the expectation that revenues beyond fiscal '22 should be able to accelerate, I guess, can you comment on what's expected to drive that acceleration? Is it -- are you guys changing anything in your go-to-market motion? Or is it just the recognition among some of these organizations with an internally built homegrown solution, recognizing that they need to evolve what they have and go with an open platform to keep up with these evolving threats?

Elad Sharon

Analyst

Yes. So the market is growing 10% a year, and we plan to grow faster over time. And the main growth driver is related to, first of all, the growing demand for security analytics software. The challenges are more complex, and analytics became even more crucial for our customers. On top of that, we see faster adoption of open security analytics platform, and our transition to software model allows easier and faster deployment and updates and maintain high value over time. And we discussed that previously, we discussed the benefits of the homegrown solutions that is a very good opportunity for us. The third one is related to our innovation. We are doing ongoing innovation and we bring innovation to the market, driving more value to existing customers, so we can grow deeper and wider. And as David mentioned, about 90% of our business comes from existing customer base. So we continue to develop and innovate in order to provide them with growing value. And the same goes for new customers, and we have about 1,000 professionals doing that. And with, again, tens of new customers every year with the history of land and expand. When we start with new customers, they come to us and buy more and more solutions to address more and more use cases. And to summarize, the growth drivers are a combination of the growing demand, our advanced offering, the differentiation and our go-to-market for going deeper and wider for existing customers and land and expand for new customers.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Kirk Materne from Evercore ISI.

Peter Levine

Analyst

This is Peter Levine in for Kirk. So to piggyback off your prior comment on pipeline strength, can you guys expect how much of that might be net new versus upsell? And that percentage mix shift, like, how has that trended throughout fiscal '21 and your expectations into fiscal '22? And then maybe perhaps what would have to go wrong for you not to hit your fiscal FY '22 targets? It seems like -- I think the trends are in your favor but just curious to know what would have to go wrong.

David Abadi

Analyst

Thanks, Peter. There was like a few questions there. So let me try to take one by one and share our view. So during FY '21, as you can see from the results, we continue with the improvement in our software mix, meaning that we were able to sell more and more from our software. And over time, like we improved our mix from around 82% in FY '21 into -- sorry, from FY '20 into almost 85% in FY '21, and these trends allow us to drive also better profitability. As for growth and confidence for our growth, so actually Elad was, like, taking it in the previous question, but I'll repeat that the demand in the market is there and we see more and more customers looking for the open software solution. And that allow us to address the demand by our solution that can be deployed in a faster way versus in the past. And overall, we believe that this will allow us also to achieve our FY '22 targets. Does this address your question? Or do you need more color?

Peter Levine

Analyst

No, that's fine. And then maybe just one more for you, David. Do you see a materially different post-COVID expense profile for Cognyte as it relates to sales and marketing, travel expense, real estate, just curious to know what your take is on that? Congrats on the quarter.

David Abadi

Analyst

Thank you. So again, from -- on OpEx, we lay out how we believe that the next year will look from an OpEx perspective. And due to the dis-synergies, we expect to have, in FY '22, an incremental $15 million that represents the cost of being independent as part of the spin, which mainly related to finance, IT, legal and the compliance function. Taking that in consideration, we do see operating leverage by having normalized EBITDA that's adjusted for dis-synergies that will allow us to grow by 14% -- approximately 14% year-over-year. As for overall OpEx, we do see benefit that the positive impact of COVID, which allow us to work more effectively and remotely with our customers and drive better margins on the level of the gross margin and the overall margin on our organization.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Mike Cikos from Needham & Company.

Michael Cikos

Analyst

I did just want to circle up because I know you guys have commented that 90% of your revenue each year comes from existing customers. And I just wanted to see if we could get better clarity. Thanks again for the customer use cases earlier where you outlined some orders from existing customers. So could you give us a better idea, what would drive the -- are you driving deeper penetration within these existing customers? And can you help us understand that penetration rate? Or is it more a function of greater data ingestion into your platform as well as addressing the use cases that maybe you previously hadn't?

Elad Sharon

Analyst

So about existing customers, as I mentioned before, the strategy is go deeper and wider. And the existing customer can start small, addressing some specific use cases and grow over time. And we can expand within the organization to different buyers. We can address investigation teams and later on address the operational teams and grow within the organization. And you can take into consideration also the technology changes. The data is growing, so there is a need for expansion in scale and expansion in analytics capabilities, et cetera. So this is how we grow within existing customers. And this works quite well, as you can see in the numbers. For new customers, it's a land-and-expand. And usually, what we do is start small. It's not always like that. Sometimes we win large deals with new customers, and I gave 2 examples earlier today. But the strategy is land-and-expand, which means that we try to penetrate the organization and trying to address specific use case the customer might have and build the confidence with the customer and the trust and the relationship over time. And then it becomes a repeat business like the other existing customers when we give them more and more use cases that they can address with our platform solutions. That's the way we grow within our customer base.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Brad Reback from Stifel.

Brad Reback

Analyst

With respect to the $490 million, how should we think about the revenue breakout between the various line items? Should it be similar to the most recent fiscal year? Or will it skew a little more heavily towards software?

David Abadi

Analyst

So the trend with the software is continuing. Obviously, we were able to achieve already significant progress, and we ended FY '21 with 85% of software. The expectation is that it will improve slightly. And in the long term, we will get into the level of the 90%. But as for FY '22, from a modeling perspective, I would assume around 86% of our revenue coming from software.

Brad Reback

Analyst

Great. And then maybe one high-level question. As you think about the business going forward, what changes the most now that you're a standalone public company?

Elad Sharon

Analyst

Yes. So we are now a pure-play security analytics software company. And there are a few main benefits I can share with you. The first one is brand reputation. We created the customer campaigns, explaining to customers as well as partners our vision and strategy, and we get a very good response on that. The second one is that we have been able to align the compensation plans of the management and the employees who are driving the objectives of the company for this specific market. So we have better focus on our business objectives. And this will also help us with employer brand to attract the best talent in the market and continue leading with cutting-edge technology. So overall, we get a very good feedback from the market. We are very excited about our new chapter and the benefits the spin presents us with, so very good feedback so far.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Shaul Eyal from Cowen.

Shaul Eyal

Analyst

Congrats on the first quarter as a publicly traded entity. Congrats on performance. Dudi or Elad, I wanted to ask you about the status of your AI and predictive analytics product solutions. What can you share with us on that front? And my follow-up will be, now that you're a publicly traded entity, what's the thinking about pursuing some M&A strategies?

Elad Sharon

Analyst

Thank you, Shaul. So I'll start with the first one with the AI. In recent years, security challenges become internally complex. We all read in the newspapers that well-organized and well-funded illegal entities are becoming harder to detect as they take advantage of the latest technologies to hide in the shadows. Our platform is designed with several components at its core. The first one, our customers have many different data sources, and our platform is equipped with data fusion technologies that aggregate and enrich structured data such as the travel history, for example; and unstructured data such as images, video and social media, from different sources. So that's the foundation for actually being able to deal with data -- diversified data at scale. The next component is related to data analytics, including the real-time modeling and statistical tools to help analysts accelerate investigations. The next layer is about AI and machine learning models. And we use it heavily in our platform to find hidden patterns in a massive amount of data. And last is intuitive workflows and advanced visualization tools. For example, our customers have the ability to drag and drop interface and then being able to configure the workflow without the need for coding or our involvement. So to summarize, our platform produces insights using the analytics and the AI and machine learning to predict events and when and where they might take place. And generating those insights in real time or near-real time, of course, is crucial for security organizations. Regarding the second question about M&A, so the security analytics software market is highly fragmented. And of course, there are many security companies, by the way, including in Israel, there are many start-ups and other companies that are offering different security capabilities. Some of them can be synergistic to our business. We are evaluating tuck-in acquisition opportunities on an ongoing basis, and we'll make decisions case-by-case. Having said that, our strategy for now is to acquire opportunistically, but we also don't have the big gaps that we have to fill as we have about 1,000 professionals developing innovative technologies in-house. So -- but again, if we will find something that is interesting for us, we will take the decision accordingly.

Operator

Operator

We have no further questions at this time.

Matthew Frankel

Analyst

Great. Well, thank you, everyone, for joining us today, and we look forward to speaking to you soon. Have a good day.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's conference. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.