Mike Bless
Analyst · BMO Capital Markets. Your line is open.
Yes. Sure, David. So it’s Mike. So the first – I’ll take your three buckets. The $15 million is already reversed. We’re really convinced it’s a one-time thing. If you look at the Indy Hub prices, and frankly the prices at our nodes have been better than Indy Hub, those aren’t public. But if you even look at Indy Hub, it’s come straight down. And the predictions are, if you look at the forecast, it’s going to be back in sort of the 50s by the weekend and then back in the 30s next week. So it’s really – it was terrible, but it was really a 1-week thing, really maybe more like 8 or 9 days. So last Friday, Saturday when it started creeping up and then it shot up. So the answer on the first bucket is, it all goes away. It all reverses, it’s gone. The second bucket is, again, there’s no – all that is, is an increase from Q4 to Q1, that second bucket that Craig talked about. It’s just the fact that power prices were frankly, I would comment, it’s not unseasonably – they were good in Q4, both Indy Hub and Nord Pool. And then Q1, we – other than the 1-week aberration there, we expect them to be sort of normal Q1. And so our expectation is that come Q2, those prices generally ease back down in a normal year. And our expectation is that they would do the same. And that expectation, David, I’ll – hold this thought for a second because I’ll make a summary comment at the end. That expectation is embedded in the plant cash costs that Craig took you through. And then yes, Mt. Holly is just a burst of expense. Most of it is capital, as Pete said. It’s a burst of expense that’s – most of the items that you don’t capitalize under GAAP tend to be at the beginning of these projects and flow through as expense. The only other comment, going back, I apologize, to that second bucket, is I make all those same comments again for both the Indy Hub and Nord Pool. But as Craig said, on Nord Pool specifically, it’s a bit strange here. From a reported earnings perspective, EBITDA and all the rest, the variance in Nord Pool impacts our earnings, but it doesn’t impact our cash flow because we’ve hedged that Nord Pool. We don’t like the volatility, and so we’ve taken that risk out. So while you’ll see it, and Craig will call it out for you every quarter in the EBITDA or the operating profit I guess we should say, from a GAAP standpoint, there’s no cash impact.