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Central Garden & Pet Company (CENT)

Q1 2021 Earnings Call· Wed, Feb 3, 2021

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Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. Welcome to Central Garden & Pet's First Quarter Fiscal 2021 Earnings Call. My name is, Diego and I will be your conference operator for today. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded. I would now like to turn the call over to Friederike Edelmann, Vice President, Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Friederike Edelmann

Analyst

Thank you, Diego. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining us. With me on the call, today are Tim Cofer, Chief Executive Officer; Niko Lahanas, Chief Financial Officer; J.D. Walker, President, Garden Consumer Products; and John Hanson, President, Pet Consumer Products. Tim will begin with a business update and Niko will discuss our Q1 results and our outlook for fiscal 2021 in more detail. After the prepared remarks, J.D. and John will join us for the management Q&A. Our press release providing the results for our first quarter ended December 26, 2020, is available on our website at ir.central.com, and contains the GAAP to non-GAAP reconciliation for the non-GAAP measures discussed on this call. We've also made available a supplemental investor presentation. Before I turn the call over to Tim, I would like to remind you that statements made during this call, which are not historical facts, including the potential impact of COVID-19 on our business, earnings per share and other guidance for 2021, expectations for new capital investment, product introductions and future acquisitions are forward-looking statements subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those implied by forward-looking statements. These risks and others are described in Central Securities and Exchange Commission's filings, including our annual report on Form 10-K filed on November 24, 2020. Central undertakes no obligation to publicly update these forward-looking statements to reflect new information, subsequent events or otherwise. Now, I will turn over the call to our CEO, Tim Cofer. Tim?

Tim Cofer

Analyst

Thank you, Friederike. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining our Q1 earnings call. We hope you and your families are staying healthy and safe. We're pleased to report that Central has delivered another quarter of strong financial performance. Today, I'd like to start by providing a recap of the Central to Home strategy we shared with you in early December, walk you through our recent acquisitions and how they met back to our strategy, and discuss the key factors that drove our Q1 results. Before we dive-in, I want to begin with an update on how Central continues to navigate the COVID-19 pandemic. The Company remains vigilant in our efforts to operate and conduct business safely, which is even more important now as we've seen cases rise across the country, and Central is certainly not immune to this trend. Our facilities have diligently maintained strict health and safety standards and we remain committed to all measures needed to keep our employees safe. Thanks to the hard work of our teams, all of our manufacturing facilities and distribution centers remain open and fully operational. A big thanks to team Central for their continued dedication and strong execution. As you know, just a couple of months ago, we held an Investor Day, where we shared our Central to Home strategy, our strategic roadmap for how we will take our business, our brands and our people into the future. The foundation of our strategy starts with an inspiring company purpose, to nurture happy and healthy homes. Our employees are equally excited by our new bold mission to lead the future of the garden and pet industries, and this all culminates with our five strategic pillars. These pillars provide our organization with clear direction and a roadmap for the next few years.…

Niko Lahanas

Analyst

Thank you, Tim. Good afternoon, everyone. I'm very pleased to start the fiscal year on such a strong footing. We had the strongest first quarter net sales and operating income in the Company's history. Net sales reached $592 million, an increase of 23%, or $109 million compared to the first quarter a year ago, driven by organic growth in both segments. Consolidated gross profit increased $34 million to $165 million, and gross margin increased 70 basis points to 27.9%, driven by favorable product mix and volume-related efficiencies in both Pet and Garden. SG&A expense increased 7% versus a year ago to $138 million. But as a percent of net sales, SG&A decreased 340 basis points to 23.4%. This increase was driven by higher payroll-related and logistics costs resulting from our increased volumes, partially offset by lower travel and entertainment expense. Operating income increased $25 million to $27 million, driven by higher sales volumes and improved gross margin, partially offset by higher SG&A expenses. Operating margin increased 420 basis points to 4.6%, thanks to improved gross margin and operating leverage, offset by continued pressure on our supply chain and inflation. EBITDA increased 163% to $40 million. Turning now to our Garden segment. Garden segment sales increased 34% or $40 million to $156 million. The growth was driven by garden distribution, wild bird feed, grass feed, controls and fertilizers, as well as our live plants business. Garden segment operating income was $5 million, an increase of approximately $12 million or 168% compared to prior year. Garden segment operating margin increased by 890 basis points to 3%, a record operating margin for the Garden segment in the first quarter. The improvement was driven by the organic strength mentioned previously, improved gross margins, as well as lower SG&A. Garden segment EBITDA increased 275% to…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Andrea Teixeira with JPMorgan. Please state your question. Andrea Teixeira, your line is open. We'll move onto the next question. [Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from Karru Martinson with Jefferies. Please state your question.

Karru Martinson

Analyst · Jefferies. Please state your question.

A wonderful quarter here. I was curious how much of the point of sales and the retailers taking inventory earlier represent kind of a pull-forward from your orders into this traditionally a smaller quarter? And how should we kind of balance that out for the year, and thoughts on retail inventory at retail?

Tim Cofer

Analyst · Jefferies. Please state your question.

Sure. Thanks for the question. This is Tim. I'll start and I can kick it over to J.D. and John as I think the dynamics could be a little different across the businesses. I mean in general, I would tell you, starting on POS, we feel very good about our POS trends. You're seeing these on the Garden and the Pet side in a very strong double-digit territory. And when you see the alignment between the POS and our revenue, that is encouraging to us that they're not out of line. There is no question, particularly on the Garden side that retailers having experienced the strength of last year's consumer demand garden season. And with the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic and kind of consumer behavior, our retail partners are very much counting on another strong season. And they are planning for that accordingly, and I would say, pulling inventory sooner. But again, what's most encouraging for me is the fact that our inventory and our - sorry, our point of sales and our sales shipment to net revenue are quite in alignment, and that - that's I think, encouraging for future quarters. On the Pet side, there is less, obviously, of a seasonal dynamic than Garden. And in general, there I'd say good alignment between POS and sales. So I don't know, J.D. or John, if there is any builds on that?

J.D. Walker

Analyst · Jefferies. Please state your question.

I think you said it well, Tim. I'll just add a couple of comments. We said earlier in the script that the sales were up for Garden 34% for the quarter. Our POS metric is almost that exact same number, so it's tracking very closely. We're not significantly building inventory, not in Q1 that is. I think part of that reason for that was the timing of our Q1 - our - that quarter ended on December 26. The day after Christmas, our facilities were closed that day. So retailers, if they were going to really aggressively build inventory, would have had to ship well before Christmas in order for it to hit their stores, and that just wasn't the case. So we saw a lot of replenishment in Q1, but not aggressive inventory building until after the holiday, and that extended - that really accelerated during the month of January.

Karru Martinson

Analyst · Jefferies. Please state your question.

Thank you.

J.D. Walker

Analyst · Jefferies. Please state your question.

I'll turn it over to John.

John Hanson

Analyst · Jefferies. Please state your question.

Yes. On the Pet side as Tim stated, our POS and shipment trends were very consistent, so we feel very good about how we ended the quarter and coming into Q2 relatively clean. So very good about it.

Karru Martinson

Analyst · Jefferies. Please state your question.

And when you guys talked about investing in the business, expanding the line and adding incremental capacity, I mean, what magnitude are we looking at in terms of CapEx for this year? How much of it is growing into this growth capacity? And how should we kind of flow that through the year for our models?

Niko Lahanas

Analyst · Jefferies. Please state your question.

This is Niko. Yes, we guided in our last call that we will be doing about $70 million to $80 million of CapEx on the year. And then the way to think about it, our maintenance CapEx tends to be kind of mid-20s all the way up to $30 million a year, so the rest of it would be very much growth and capacity-driven.

Tim Cofer

Analyst · Jefferies. Please state your question.

And that incremental number that Niko references up to that $70 million, $80 million, that's very important for us. I think you've heard us talk over the last couple of quarters, I said it earlier on the call that our service levels are challenged, and so the disproportionate amount of that incremental CapEx is to build incremental capacity. That incremental capacity is both on the Garden and the Pet side across multiple business units. And we expect that incremental capacity to begin to come online in the back half of this year and into '22.

Karru Martinson

Analyst · Jefferies. Please state your question.

And just a point of clarification on that. Why your capacity may have been challenged here, and your service levels weren't quite optimal? It does sound like you're still gaining share in the industry, and into that, this may be a wider issue? Is that the case?

Tim Cofer

Analyst · Jefferies. Please state your question.

Yes, on both counts. So we are gaining market share in a number of key categories on the Garden side, while burden fertilizer would be a couple to reference. We're also gaining share in a number of Pet categories, both brick and mortar and online. So - and then I would affirm the second part of your comment, which is, it is quite common to industry right now. I think all of us in the garden and pet industry, have been pleasantly surprised with the extent of the strength of the consumer demand. And so that - the fact that our service levels are still somewhat challenged is not unique to Central Garden & Pet.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Bill Chappell with Truist. Please state your question.

Bill Chappell

Analyst · Truist. Please state your question.

I guess, first, I mean, I know or I'm accustomed to your level of guidance. But maybe you could talk about on the top line. Do you expect those businesses to post organic growth in fiscal '21? It doesn't - if I remember correctly, the comparison for the March quarter isn't as difficult just because I think, things kind of started off a little bit slower, retailers were somewhat closed in the early lockdowns. And so the tougher comps are obviously, the June and the September quarter. But just any color on, do you expect organic growth in the two businesses in '21?

Tim Cofer

Analyst · Truist. Please state your question.

Yes. Bill, you're spot on. This Q2, we hadn't seen the real lift take off, so the tougher quarters are going to be June and September. As far as organic growth, yes, the answer is yes. And I would refer back to our algorithm where we intend to grow our organic business in that low-single-digit - at that low single-digit rate. So that's our intent every year.

Bill Chappell

Analyst · Truist. Please state your question.

Okay, great. Yes. That's obviously, abnormal year or period, but that's good to hear. And say on the acquisitions, can you at least give us a little more color, just in terms of, I believe, you indicated that they were - all three acquisitions are in kind of your target valuation range. But maybe were all three growing in the past 12 months? Were all three margin accretive? And then any idea or help you could give us just on what D&A is expected to be from these three deals would be helpful. Thanks.

Tim Cofer

Analyst · Truist. Please state your question.

So yes on the first two, they were growing and they are going to be accretive in the long run. As far as D&A, we've got work to do on the purchase accounting side. So we're going to give a lot more information on that on the next call, given really we've only closed one of them in Q1 as well. So more to come.

Bill Chappell

Analyst · Truist. Please state your question.

I just - I guess an easy one. Would the seed business, I'm sorry, just excuse me. Would that be because of the timing? Would that actually be less accretive this year - in fiscal '21? I mean are you missing some of the normal seasonal profitability because it won't close until let's say March?

Tim Cofer

Analyst · Truist. Please state your question.

I think that's fair, yes. But again, more to come. We still need to look at all the ins and outs of the purchase accounting. So there'll be a substantial inventory mark up, and we know that this is their peak season, so, yes, there's a good chance of that happening.

Bill Chappell

Analyst · Truist. Please state your question.

Okay. And then last one for me. Just in terms of - just general commodity outlook right now, there have been certainly some spikes in key commodities. I know you do - hedge a fair amount, but didn't - and price accordingly, just didn't know if there is anything that's popped up in the past three months that's meaningfully changed your outlook?

Tim Cofer

Analyst · Truist. Please state your question.

Nothing major, Bill. I mean it's labor, it's freight, it's particularly ocean freight. We saw some spikes in commodities and grain, so for the wild bird food business and that's where we've taken some price. And then on the Pet side, I would say, foam in our bedding business, we've seen a spike there as well. So that's kind of what we're dealing with. And then again, we've got pricing set up to be taken throughout the year. But again we don't - we flew this first quarter with no pricing air cover, so to speak, so we've got some catching up to do.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from William Reuter with Bank of America. Please state your question.

William Reuter

Analyst · Bank of America. Please state your question.

And following up on the previous question, is it possible to provide a total aggregate inflation number that you're seeing across your portfolio? And then you mentioned that you have pricing coming in across Pet. I guess, it sounds like there is maybe a little margin pressure. How much of - how much increase in your own prices do you expect across the portfolio?

Tim Cofer

Analyst · Bank of America. Please state your question.

It's hard to call because we see acute pricing pressure in certain areas. And so in wild bird, for instance, it's going to be a little more aggressive, whereas in some of the other businesses, it will be muted, but we will be taking prices. So we haven't pulled together the business at large, but what I would tell you, it's very kind of business-specific in terms of the timing as well as the magnitude of the pricing.

William Reuter

Analyst · Bank of America. Please state your question.

And then, Karru's first question where you guys helpfully shared that POS was aligned with your sell-in. Is there any way to think about what dollar amount of sales you think may have shifted from 2Q into 1Q, I guess really on the Garden side?

J.D. Walker

Analyst · Bank of America. Please state your question.

I think that's difficult - it's difficult for us to assess that. As I said, PO - sell-in was tracking very closely to consumption, so a lot of that was replenishment in Q1. There may have been a little pull forward, but it's a relatively low number. The - most of the inventory build that we saw for the season started after the holidays, and as I mentioned earlier, really accelerated during the month of January. But I think our pull forward into Q1 was minimal.

William Reuter

Analyst · Bank of America. Please state your question.

And then lastly from me. You just completed or I guess you completed one acquisition. You have two more that you're going to get done here shortly. You're still well below your leverage target of 3 times to 3.5 times. I guess, will you continue to evaluate additional M&A this year? Or do you think that you want to focus on integration of these before you add other businesses?

Tim Cofer

Analyst · Bank of America. Please state your question.

Yes, certainly, priority one now is the successful integration and the continued delivery of our three new family members, two of which are closed, as you said, only one impacted Q1, one in Q2, and then the other is pending closing, and that one is Green Garden. So that's clearly a priority one. Having said that, no, we are not putting our pencils down on the M&A or corporate development desk. As you reference, we continue to have firepower on the balance sheet for other deals, and we continued to have an acquisitive appetite in both Garden and Pet. You would also know that in the world of acquisitions, you can never time things perfectly. So we're going to continue to be out there looking at options. And if there is an opportunistic move later this year that meets our criteria and meets the thresholds, we won't be opposed to pursuing it.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Jim Chartier with Monness, Crespi, Hardt. Please state your question.

Jim Chartier

Analyst · Monness, Crespi, Hardt. Please state your question.

First, I think last quarter, you expected first quarter EPS on a GAAP basis to be below last year, and you guys came in meaningfully better than that. So just curious what drove the upside in the first quarter versus your expectation?

Niko Lahanas

Analyst · Monness, Crespi, Hardt. Please state your question.

Well, it's largely volume-driven. We had tremendous volumes. If you look at the growth rates in both Pet and Garden, we didn't anticipate having that stronger volume. And then the other bits and pieces would be a fairly favorable mix. And then if you look at the SG&A, it was - as a percent of sales, it was down once again and largely driven to the volume that we got, and we just - we're able to gain these operating leverage as the quarter progressed. So I would just say, we are continuously surprised by the high engagement of the consumer, and it just continues on. As J.D. and John have mentioned, it's well into January as well. So very, very pleased with the results.

Jim Chartier

Analyst · Monness, Crespi, Hardt. Please state your question.

Okay. So it sounds like…

Tim Cofer

Analyst · Monness, Crespi, Hardt. Please state your question.

You know, Jim, if you think about it, I mean, Pet grew 19%, those are incredible numbers, you would know from spending a lot of time in this industry. And then you look at Garden at 34% growth, that one, in particular, I think to Nikos' point was even more robust than we had anticipated.

Jim Chartier

Analyst · Monness, Crespi, Hardt. Please state your question.

Okay. So it just sounds like there wasn't a ton of pull forward in terms of sales, and sales were much better than expected, but you guys are kind of maintaining your guidance for the year, just to be more on the conservative side. Is that kind of the right way to characterize it then?

Niko Lahanas

Analyst · Monness, Crespi, Hardt. Please state your question.

Yes.

Tim Cofer

Analyst · Monness, Crespi, Hardt. Please state your question.

And remember, Jim, this is a small quarter for us. It's about Q2 and Q3. In this business, particularly on the Garden side, of course, uncertainty as it relates COVID and how that dynamic plays out in balance of the year. So since it's a small quarter, we think that's the most prudent. And obviously, after Q2, we'll be back and share any new outlook if appropriate.

Jim Chartier

Analyst · Monness, Crespi, Hardt. Please state your question.

And then another question. You talked about the investments to expand capacity. Could you give us a sense of how much sales you might have lost last year due to these capacity constraints, yes, that you plan to expand this year?

Tim Cofer

Analyst · Monness, Crespi, Hardt. Please state your question.

Yes. I mean, always hard to exactly pin it down right because when you think about customer service level and case fill rate, often kind of reorders are exaggerated when you fall short of delivery. But I would say, certainly, it's in the probably low tens of millions type of number across the entire enterprise in the back half of last year.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Brad Thomas with KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please state your question.

Brad Thomas

Analyst · KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please state your question.

Congratulations on a great start to the year. My first question was around some of these acquisitions, particularly with Green Garden being, I think, the biggest deal the Company has ever done. And the question we get asked is, really for more color around the synergies and how you're going to leverage bringing in these three businesses in the Garden category at the same time. And then for two, as you think about the strength that you've been seeing in the industry and in the business in 4Q and 1Q, how you make sure you're not overpaying at a time that the industry is seeing so much strength? Thanks so much.

Tim Cofer

Analyst · KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please state your question.

Yes. Well, look, obviously, we are bullish and we're confident on all three of the acquisitions. They fit such a nice complementary role to our overall Garden footprint. One obviously, building significant digital capabilities and direct to consumer pick, pack and ship fulfillment capabilities in a key controls category. One extending our live goods, and live plants, a leadership from mid-Atlantic to Northeast, and adding a few other classes. And then the big one, as you say, the biggest of the three is Green Garden which has yet to formally close but adds a really important adjacency in seed packets and seed starters to the Garden portfolio. We feel great about the management teams in all three cases. You referenced synergies. There are definitely opportunities for synergies. But first and foremost we buy businesses with a business proposition and a return expectation that can largely be achieved without those, and then on top, synergies allow us to generate an even higher return. We feel good about the outlook on these businesses. To your point, I think you raised a fair question, which obviously, is one we ask ourselves, Niko, myself, J.D. and the Board room around ensuring we don't overpay. I think we are a very disciplined buyer. We certainly took into account as much as possible what we think may or may not have been the COVID bump. And of course, running a $1 billion-plus Garden business, we have a good sense of what COVID did and did not due to our business and what the sustainable growth potential is. So we were able to extrapolate that as well, for example, on to the Green Garden business. But we're bullish on that one, a strong leadership position, talented management team, very strong fit to J.D. Walker's business down there in Garden, and confident it will generate a strong return.

Brad Thomas

Analyst · KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please state your question.

Really helpful. Thank you, Tim. And Niko. If I could ask one - a view? And Tim may want to chime in here as well. How to think about spending plans and flow-through for this year? Because it does seem you're off to a fantastic start. And depending on how long these COVID dynamics last or what recovery looks like, there really seems to be a pretty wide range of outcomes and how sales could unfold here this year. So if there's any more color you could share but how to think of how much you might decide to flow to the bottom line if the sales continue to be strong versus perhaps where you might be able to reduce expenses if they do slow to a greater degree? Any more color around thinking that closer would be helpful. Thanks.

Niko Lahanas

Analyst · KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please state your question.

Yes. I - you know, we think about that all the time. And the way to - the way we're thinking about, at least, is we've got to meet the customers' needs, first of all, and we're not happy with those service levels. So we've got to get those up into the high-90s, which is what we're accustomed to. Once we're able to do that, then we can talk about investing and driving even additional growth as we outlined in our vision 2025 strategy, which is the virtuous cycle of reinvesting for even more growth and expanding those margins. I think we're pretty firm on the CapEx as far as that investment goes across the year. You can see Q1 got started off very, very strong, doubling up what we did a year ago. I would look for more on that. And we just feel very bullish and good about the Company, where we're headed, market share, and that's why you're seeing that strong commitment on the CapEx side. I think the variable side, the marketing piece, we're going to wait and see. We need to get our baseline fill rates up and then make some moves there on investing.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Andrea Teixeira with JPMorgan. Please state your question.

Andrea Teixeira

Analyst · JPMorgan. Please state your question.

And I hope all is well. So congrats on the numbers. My question is, there is a lot of uncertainties that you mentioned in guidance. So in order to understand a bit of your investment in capabilities and capacities, perhaps if you can elaborate more on the - on what are you investing outside of capacity that would bridge us to very conservative margin guidance if I understand it correctly? And as you talk about raw material price increases and freight costs, can you let us know the cadence of that increase that you're seeing? Is it going to be fully? When you're going to be lapping part of this freight cost? And if you can comment on what you've had in terms of freight cost increases in this quarter? Thank you.

Tim Cofer

Analyst · JPMorgan. Please state your question.

Maybe I'll start and Niko, you jump in. First, in terms of - the first part of your question was around investing in both capacity and capabilities. And indeed, I think earlier on the call, we've highlighted the capacity investment that again is on both the Garden and the Pet side, and is critical to ensure we service our customers, as Niko just mentioned. On the capability side, we are making further investments in kind of the growth consumer-oriented space. So this would be continued investment in e-commerce whereas we shared earlier in the call, we had another very strong quarter of e-commerce on the Pet side where that is now 20% of branded consumer pet sales, and we're seeing a very strong kind of 40 plus - 40%, 50% type growth on the Pet side. And then on the Garden side, while underdeveloped, we're seeing continued triple-digit growth on Garden e-commerce, continued investment in e-commerce, in people, in the team, in content development, in servicing and in fulfillment, as well, investing in areas like brand building, which you will see more of this year, and a couple of our flagship brands on the Garden side, as well as on the Pet side, there'll be more investment in marketing against our power brands. We're dialing up our innovation agenda here in this Company, and we've got some good innovation for this year, we expect even better going into '22 and '23. And as you would know, you need to invest early in that innovation funnel for it to bear fruit in future years. And we're doing that both on John and J.D's business, both Pet and Garden. Digital marketing is another area. So we are taking the opportunity consistent with that strategy to invest proactively in the growth agenda in more of those consumer-facing capabilities as well as capacity.

Andrea Teixeira

Analyst · JPMorgan. Please state your question.

Yes. That's helpful. Sorry. Go ahead.

Tim Cofer

Analyst · JPMorgan. Please state your question.

I was just going to add, in terms of increases in cost, freight - particularly, ocean freight continues to go up. We're not quite sure when we're going to lap it. I think as you look at the world and the supply chain of the world coming out of Asia and China, that's where the ocean freight is particularly acute. And we just don't have a sense yet of when that's going to slow down, so we're still trying to figure that out in terms of when we would lap that.

Andrea Teixeira

Analyst · JPMorgan. Please state your question.

And one last question if I may, on the household penetration. You said like you obviously, have a good sense of how much your household penetration, and you gave that information on Analyst Day. But like how sustainable? And you mentioned a moment ago that you have a good sense of the impact of COVID in Pet and Gardening. And I think Pet, obviously, hopefully, that's going to be sustainable as you adopt a new pet and there is a line of new pet owners to adopt more. But in terms of the Gardening, do you have a sense of the new households, how you're going to keep those and retain those consumers like how sustainable that can be as you lap COVID?

J.D. Walker

Analyst · JPMorgan. Please state your question.

Yes, Andrea. This is, J.D. I'll take the question. It is - in terms of how sustainable it is, I think that that's yet to be determined, really. And what we saw was a 5.5% increase in household penetration, roughly 8 million new households participating in our categories, which is fantastic. And we've seen them continue to remain engaged beyond last year into Q1 of this year. And the signs are that they're going to continue to be engaged. So we feel good about that. I think one of the reasons why we have had some - a conservative outlook on the latter half of the year is we just don't know how sticky that will be. So as the vaccine starts to spread across the country, as people start to get more comfortable with maybe doing other things away from the home, we'll see how many people remain engaged in our categories. But I don't think that's going to go back to zero. That number will still be something most likely above the normal run rates that we saw historically.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our final question…

Tim Cofer

Analyst

Maybe time for one more question, please.

Operator

Operator

Certainly. Our final question comes from Sarah Clark with JPMorgan. Please state your question.

Sarah Clark

Analyst

Thanks for taking my question. How much of your business today is a distribution business? And where do you see that going?

Tim Cofer

Analyst

It's roughly about 20% of the business in total across the two segments. It's an important part of both Garden and Pet. It is obviously a lower-margin business than our branded business, but it does afford us a number of advantages in terms of strengthening the partnership with key customers who benefit from us, not only as a branded manufacturer but also a distributor. It gives us quite a bit of intelligence on the broader industry because we're not only working with our own products, but many of our competitive products, and that allows us to keep a pulse on the industry, what's growing, what's not, what are customers looking for, et cetera. So a good business, about 20%, but obviously, a lower-margin business than our branded business. And good growth, I would say, finally. It's growing very nicely and both the Garden and the Pet side.

Sarah Clark

Analyst

Got it. That's super helpful. Thank you.

Tim Cofer

Analyst

Thank you. Thank you very much for joining this Q1 earnings call. We appreciate your time and your interest in Central Garden & Pet. We encourage everyone to stay safe. We look forward to talking to you again next quarter. And if you have any questions, feel free to follow-up with our Investor Relations team. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. All parties may disconnect. Have a good day.