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Q4 2012 Earnings Call· Tue, Mar 5, 2013

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Operator

Operator

Good morning, and welcome to THL Credit's Earnings Call for its Fourth Fiscal Quarter of and Full Year 2012. It's my pleasure to turn the call over to Ms. Stephanie Sullivan, General Counsel and Chief Compliance Officer of THL Credit. Ms. Sullivan, you may begin.

Stephanie Pare Sullivan

Management

Thank you, operator. Good morning, and thank you for joining us. With me today are Jim Hunt, our Chief Executive Officer; Terry Olson, our Chief Operating Officer and Chief Financial Officer; and Sam Tillinghast, our Co-President and Chief Risk Officer. Before we begin, please note that statements made on this call may constitute forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Securities Act of 1933, as amended. Such statements reflect various assumptions by THL Credit concerning anticipated results and are not guarantees of future performance and are subject to known and unknown certainties -- uncertainties and other factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from such statements. The uncertainties and other factors are, in some ways, beyond management's control, including the factors described from time to time in our filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Although we believe that the assumptions on which any forward-looking statements are based are reasonable, any of those assumptions could prove to be inaccurate and, as a result, the forward-looking statements based on those assumptions also could be incorrect. You should not place undue reliance on these forward-looking statements. THL Credit undertakes no duty to update any forward-looking statements made herein. All forward-looking statements speak only as of the date of this call. A webcast replay of this call will be available until March 12, 2013, starting approximately 2 hours after we conclude this morning. To access the replay, please visit our website at www.thlcredit.com. With that, I'll turn the call over to Jim.

James K. Hunt

Management

Thank you, Stephanie. Good morning. Thank you for joining us this morning's call, covering the results of THL Credit's fourth quarter and year-ended December 31, 2012. Our earnings announcement and 10-K were released yesterday afternoon, copies of which can be found on our website, along with a Q4 Investor Presentation that we will refer to during this call. This morning, we will provide an overview of THL Credit's investment activities and highlights for the fourth quarter and the full year 2012. We will also offer our views on the current investment environment and how we are positioned for growth. We completed the fourth quarter with 34 portfolio companies valued at approximately $400 million, after investing $105 million during Q4 in 6 new transactions and 3 existing portfolio companies. These new investments were offset by proceeds from repayments of $80 million, resulting in over $25 million of net portfolio growth for the quarter. While prepayment activity with associated premiums was higher than expected, our originations remained strong amid an increasingly competitive environment in the middle market. During 2012, we completed 19 new investment transactions and made 7 follow-on investments, totaling $277 million in debt and equity capital. While the fourth quarter marked the highest number of investments closed since going public, as we have regularly noted when we report earnings, there remains an inherent lumpiness in our pace of deployment and prepayment. The investments I had just mentioned exclude the $24 million in short-term investments in 5 broadly syndicated loans we made during October, leveraging the credit resources of certain investment professionals from our Senior Loan Strategies Group, or SLS, which operates as a subsidiary of our external manager. We sold these loan investments in the fourth quarter and used the proceeds for new investments consistent with our investment strategy. We…

Terrence W. Olson

Management

Thanks, Jim, and good morning, everyone. As Jim mentioned earlier, our investment portfolio, valued at $394 million on a fair market value basis as of December 31, consisted of 34 companies including our investment in Greenway I. As a reminder, we utilized an independent third-party provider -- independent third-party to provide positive insurance on values as part of our quarterly valuation process for all of our investments each quarter. I want to start by describing our 6 new investment transactions and provide you with a little color on each. First, we made a $36.8 million unsponsored investment on the subordinated term loan of Gold, Inc. Gold is a designer and distributor of both private label and brand accessories and travel gear for infants and children and is headquartered in Aurora, Colorado. We made this investment on the last day of 2012 and, subsequent to year end, sold $15.7 million of our holdings, as anticipated at underwriting. We made a $25.4 million investment in the senior secured term loan at Harrison Gypsum. Harrison mines, mills and processes and distributes gypsum and anhydrite products and is based in Norman, Oklahoma. We are in the process of completing the sale of a portion of our holdings. The sale was also anticipated in our underwriting. We made an $11 million investment in the senior secured term loan of Washington Inventory Service, a global provider of outsourced inventory management solutions based in San Diego, California. We made a $10 million investment in a second lien term loan of Pinnacle Operating corporation, a distributor of crop input and precision agricultural services to growers in the Mid-South, with headquarters in Cleveland, Mississippi. We also made a $10 million investment in the income notes of an Octagon CLO managed by Octagon Credit Investors. Finally, from the investment front,…

James K. Hunt

Management

Thanks, Terry. With sequestration and the payroll tax effect raising questions on the U.S. economy, I asked Sam Tillinghast, whom the majority of you know, who serves as our Co-President, Head of our Houston office, and importantly, serves as our Chief Risk Officer, to address these macro factors. Importantly, Sam will speak to our selecting and structuring investments in light of various economic scenarios. Additionally, he will cover our system for investment supervision. Sam?

Sam W. Tillinghast

Management

Thanks, Jim. First, let me reiterate the macro environment caution, which THL credit has built our portfolio since our inception. THL Credit was started in 2007 as the credit crisis and economic downturn was just beginning. And successfully weathered the worst such crisis in our careers, we've consistently underwritten all of our investments that focused on revenue visibility, stability of cash flow and historical performance. For each transaction, we sized the appropriate amount of debt based on our analysis of trough EBITDA, a thorough analysis of potential downside scenarios. Invest in transactions with our intention to hold to maturity, and with that intention, we always assume the borrower will experience at least one significant downturn in the economy, and we underwrite to that assumption. Prior to every investment, we perform extensive forecasting and sensitivity analysis with a focus on cash generation, liquidity and fixed charge coverage. This approach to only selecting opportunities that meet our high underwriting standards and to the structuring each transaction to withstand significant changes in the macroeconomic environment, our portfolio is well-positioned in the face of the sequestration and the payroll tax increase. That being said, we are mindful of the potential multiplier effect from any federal employee force reduction and potential impact of the exploration of the payroll tax holiday on lower-income consumers. With that in mind, let me take another moment to explain our process for the monitoring and supervision of our investments. As a team we review our portfolio weekly, addressing areas in which we have concern. We also address whether any credit risk scores should be changed. Every portfolio investment is more formally presented on a semi-annual basis to review the validity of our original investment thesis and update all significant risks. We received monthly financial statements on almost all of our borrowers and analyze each borrower’s performance relative to their budget and our original underwriting expectations. This monthly analysis is distributed to all our investment professionals and includes a review of the borrower’s liquidity profile. Our risk management culture is to focus quickly and early on any sign of softness, conduct calls with management teams on a quarterly basis or more frequent, if appropriate. We have Board rolls via observation rights for the majority of our borrowers, which provides us with invaluable early insights and the opportunity to add value to strategic discussions and initiatives. With our own Board of Directors, we review macro risk to the portfolio, such as commodity exposure, changes to energy prices, industry or geographic concentrations and the potential effects of budget or fiscal issues of federal or state governments. This supervision and monitoring process, combined with our rigorous investment selections and structuring has enabled us to build a resilient and durable investment portfolio. And with that, I'll turn the call back over to Jim.

James K. Hunt

Management

Thank you, Sam. I'd like to now open the line for questions, operator.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Greg Mason of KBW. Greg M. Mason - Keefe, Bruyette, & Woods, Inc., Research Division: First, Jim, I wanted to see if you could talk a little bit more about the pipeline, particularly the press release, you said that you're seeing an increased number of unsponsored deal opportunities. Could you talk about why the unsponsored channel seems to be opening back up? I think it's been closed for your comments on the last several calls, and how big can that unsponsored channel be for you guys right now?

James K. Hunt

Management

It'll be interesting -- I think, that's a good question and one we're watching closely. To go back to the 30,000-foot level, our pipeline is managed in a system we call the Chalkboard, which is a heavily customized version of a CRM system. So new transactions come in, they go through our funnel, our allocation process. Those we find attractive, we screen, and right now, the Chalkboard is reflecting the unsponsored pipeline at about 42% of the pipeline, which is the highest we've now seen and is now probably -- well, certainly, the approaching third year anniversary of going public and then, preceding that. So this is -- I am hoping it's a canary in the coal mine for a more positive economy. I also -- I would say, unsponsored companies are a situation where an owner of the business has optimism. They're choosing to stay owners of the business as opposed to putting it through a change of control process. So they -- it could reflect the end of a period deleveraging of companies and a reduction of risk, reduction of debt, and now more optimism in acquiring a competitor affecting a generational change in an entrepreneurially owned business. So it could be any of those factors, but we're certainly comfortable with our process and culture to equip that growing unsponsored component. Greg M. Mason - Keefe, Bruyette, & Woods, Inc., Research Division: Okay, great. And then you talked about, on Greenway II, the economics were similar to Greenway Fund I. Would it be reasonable to assume the size would be similar to that $150 million of Greenway Fund I?

James K. Hunt

Management

I think, on that, more will be more revealed in our -- I think, that's a reasonable assumption, Greg, but I think, more details will be released at our early May call. Greg M. Mason - Keefe, Bruyette, & Woods, Inc., Research Division: Okay, great. And then one more question and I'll hop back in the pipeline. The Gryphon Partners LP investment, do you expect that investment is going to grow with additional capital calls or what is your thought process behind investing in a private middle market equity fund?

James K. Hunt

Management

The -- so, as you've probably observed, we're a little underweighted on equity. And if you look at our choices made over the last number of years, we frankly preferred the equity return and our seniority in the capital structure to equity choices we had. This was a little bit of a one-off opportunity with a sponsor we know well, we had financed previously, and there were special aspects about the opportunity. So again, going back to that broad risk-adjusted return culture, this was a specific instance that will grow slightly through additional capital calls, but not materially so, that was a fit for the balance sheet, but we're -- in that, certainly sub-5% equity as a component of our portfolio in aggregate, and this would be just a sliver within that -- with that cap, which we're a long -- informal cap, which we're a long way from.

Operator

Operator

Our next question goes from John Stilmar of JMP Securities.

John W. Stilmar - JMP Securities LLC, Research Division

Analyst

Jim, just to follow on that last point, is that sort of one of the concepts of creating a well-structured equity versus just equity in companies, that it would let you to invest with pretty well-known manager in the CLO space of Octagon? And how should we think about that kind of, is it sort of an episodic opportunistic trade or investment? Or should we think about that kind of as an emerging theme for the opportunistic bucket for THL going forward?

James K. Hunt

Management

Well, I would say, again -- and John, it's a good question, because if you go up to 30,000 feet, at the end of the day, the risk-adjusted return has to be right. And even though -- Sam and I have lots of experience as CLO investors and managers in our past working together, but what made the specific situation, which I think, it's correct to think about it as opportunistic, attractive is, now, 7 or 8 months ago, our SLS team joined us, and with their assistance, select individuals assisting our investment committee, we have the knowledge of their ability to, in essence, re-underwrite the portfolio and give us a far greater insight into just what is that risk-adjusted return scenario. So I think, you're correct in calling it opportunistic. And in the light -- with the backdrop of -- upon the manager's acquisition of SLS, we have far more resources to respond appropriately in that specific situation.

John W. Stilmar - JMP Securities LLC, Research Division

Analyst

Okay, perfect. And then, with regards to some of the originate and self, for some of the loans you that sold already now in the first quarter, portions of which were originated in the fourth, how much of those were kind of restructured first-out pieces? Are those sold to kind of carry pursue [ph] just pieces to other investors? And can you talk about what the distribution capabilities are? Well, not capabilities, but sort of the environment distributions and sort of reselling pieces versus several different flavors that maybe out there that we've kind of talked about in the past. I was wondering if you could give us a little bit more color on kind of first quarter activity.

James K. Hunt

Management

Yes, John, I'm going to address the first half, and then I'm going to ask Sam to talk about the structure on the transaction he led and how the investment was structured. In general, our senior team generally wears 2 hats. Sam serves as the Head of our Houston office. He heads any finance-related investments we have industry -- overarching industry responsibly, and then serves as our Chief Risk Officer. Chris Flynn here, in Boston, heads the Boston Investment team and has responsibility for distribution of any investment that exceeds an appropriate hold position for the BDC. He's our capital markets czar. And in the -- and so one of the reasons why Greenway I, now Greenway II, is such an attractive fit for both the investors in Greenway and for the BDC, is that it allows us to capture larger investments that [indiscernible] could responsibly afford. So the Greenway institutional investor gets a very attractive economic structure and a slice across our portfolio. And we, in turn, are able to capture larger investments and give the issuer certainty that the transaction is done. Additionally, it's important that we can drive the documents and the diligence. That's incredibly important to us. So in the instance of -- one transaction we, as an investment committee, carefully consider taking what we regard as an outside position with a -- it's a case where we have a high degree of clarity and confidence in our ability to syndicate. So in that instance, in the first instance of Gold, we've brought in Greenway and co-investors in exactly the same security that the BDC would hold. So there was no crunching [ph], if you will, on bringing in those investments. Sam?

Sam W. Tillinghast

Management

On the Harrison transaction, John, we came in with another investor at close, both with the intention that we would sell out a first -- a first-out piece. And so our intention there is just to hold the last out piece along with other investor. Generally speaking, John, you asked about just the market. We are seeing more of this kind of thing where lenders are wanting to team up with each other and do more club transactions. There's a lot of discussion about that at conferences and among different lenders. And it's something that we think we'll probably be doing more of this year.

John W. Stilmar - JMP Securities LLC, Research Division

Analyst

Okay. And then finally, just wondering if you can give us an update, at least in the first quarter, from your perspective. Obviously, you talked about a strong and growing pipeline. There's obviously the first quarter drop off, and some have sort of articulated that the first quarter demand may have been kind of pulled forward, at least into the fourth quarter. Obviously, repayments are the counterbalance that as we start thinking about portfolio. But wondering if you can kind of just paint a picture for what you're seeing so far in the first quarter of this year just with regards an origination environment and whether your unsponsored kind of growing pipeline may skew some of those -- well not skew, but just sort of give you guys maybe a more advantageous outlook than maybe we're seeing, just kind of an overall market volume. Just curious about your perspectives, and that's my last question.

James K. Hunt

Management

With respect to that, John, we are enjoying an active quarter. And it -- the first 2 weeks of year were slow, and if this -- we're getting close to the end of the quarter, but it has been a quarter of active new originations, and we've had no prepayments.

Terrence W. Olson

Management

And I'd add to that John. This is Terry. I would not anticipate the level of prepayment premium and accelerated amortization that we saw in what I would characterize as an outsized Q3 and Q4 in terms of earnings contribution. And I think, the $0.05 special dividend was reflective of paying back some of that. But I would not anticipate the level we've seen in Q3 and Q4 in the next quarter or 2.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is from Ron Driscoll [ph] of Wells Fargo Securities.

Unknown Analyst

Analyst

As we model forward our originations and yields, and you guys start using your credit facility, will advance rates cause a slight portfolio mix shifts? Or is that kind of immaterial as you guys grow?

James K. Hunt

Management

The borrowing base reflects our historic and probable investment mix, so we do not anticipate a change there.

Unknown Analyst

Analyst

Okay. And then one last question with kind of target leverage. You guys are currently at .14x [ph] , I believe, where do you feel comfortable bringing leverage kind of as you focus a little bit more in the junior debt space?

James K. Hunt

Management

If you look at our mix, Ron [ph], it has grown to be a higher portion, second lien and unitranche, then at our inception. Today, we're less -- a little less than half second lien in mezz, and the market has migrated to be -- sorry, it's a little less than half mezz. When you add second lien in, Terry, it's probably 60%-ish. The -- so the market today, it's very common that we have the opportunity to help a borrower constitute the right-hand side of their balance sheet. And it's typical for us to contemplate the opportunity as unitranche, second lien and mezz, and I think, that's going to continue. And I think, our financing does contemplate. We -- so our borrowing base allows us to do more junior capital investments, but I think the current mix probably will be reflective of us going forward. Then to your last question, we're probably comfortable at the 0.5, 0.6 leverage level relative to our portfolio. One of the things that got us -- Sam talked about building the business carefully and responsibly in what's been an unusual economic environment. And part of that has been focusing on investments that didn't need leverage to hit our target returns. And I would say that, that remains one facet of our philosophy. So 0.5, 0.6 leverage, which is, as you've noted in reflecting on where we are today, that's a long way from where we are today. And as Terry pointed out, we've got significant capital in place to do that.

James K. Hunt

Management

So operator, I see that we're through the Q&A queue. So if there are no further questions, we'd like to thank everybody for their participation. We look forward to seeing you in early May, and have a good rest of the week.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes the conference for today. You may all disconnect, and have a wonderful day.