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Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. And welcome to the Meta Financial Group Third Quarter Fiscal 2018 Investor Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference call over to Brittany Elsasser, Director of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Brittany Elsasser

Analyst

Thank you, and welcome to Meta’s conference call and webcast to discuss our financial results for the fiscal third quarter ended June 30, 2018, released earlier this afternoon. Additional information, including the earnings release and investor presentation, may be found on our website at metafinancialgroup.com. Company Chairman and CEO, J. Tyler Haahr; President, Brad Hanson; Executive Vice President and CFO, Glen Herrick; as well as Mick Goik, the President of Crestmark will be sharing some prepared remarks today before we open up the call for questions. Today's call may contain forward-looking statements, including statements related to Meta and its operating subsidiaries, which may generally be identified as describing the company's future plans, objectives or goals. We caution you not to place undue reliance on these forward-looking statements, which are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results or outcomes to differ materially from those currently anticipated or that we otherwise discuss today. These forward-looking statements are made pursuant to the safe harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. For further information about the factors that could affect Meta's future results, please see the company's most recent annual and quarterly reports filed on forms 10-K and 10-Q and its other filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Forward-looking statements speak only as of the date on which they are made. Meta expressly disclaims any intent or obligation to update any forward-looking statements on behalf of the company or its subsidiaries, whether as a result of new information, changed circumstances, future events or for any other reason. At this time, I would like to turn the call over to CEO, Tyler Haahr.

J. Tyler Haahr

Analyst

Thank you, Brittany and thank you to everyone joining us on today’s earnings call. We are very pleased with the continued success on Meta’s highly differentiated and diversified financial services model. As our teams work to expand their business, implement innovative program for our partners and maintain rigorous discipline around risk management and underwrite. These efforts paid off in the third quarter. Meta grew total loans, deposits, net interest income, non-interest income and revenue to new third quarter record levels. Compared to the same quarter last year, Meta grew gross loans by 31%, net interest income by 14%, non-interest income by 8% and total revenue by more than 10%. We reported GAAP earnings of $6.8 million, or $0.70 per diluted share despite several meaningful charges that Glen will elaborate on further in his prepared remarks. The third quarter earnings also reflect investments to support the continued growth of Meta. We recognize the need to balance these investments with appropriate management of non-interest expense. As we've said since earlier this year, we expect opportunities for accelerating operating leverage in fiscal 2019 and even more so in fiscal 2020. As our teams continue to execute our organic growth strategy during the fiscal third quarter we also made great progress toward closing the acquisition of national commercial lender, Crestmark Bancorp. During the fiscal third quarter we obtained all necessary shareholder and bank regulatory approvals and expect to close the transaction on August 1, 2018. We expect the strategic and transformational deal will provide Meta with access to Crestmark’s National Commercial Lending platform, while offering complimentary cross selling opportunities for our existing commercial insurance premium finance division. We believe this deal will also provide further flexibility when it comes to managing the combined company's balance sheet, given that Crestmark has historically been fully funded…

Mick Goik

Analyst

Thank you, Tyler and good afternoon everyone. On behalf of Crestmark family we could not be more excited to be joining Meta and becoming a part of this innovative company. At Crestmark we're proud to have built a long record of very profitable growth by making it our mission to help small and medium sized businesses. For most of the entrepreneurs and operators Crestmark serves, no matter they are industry or geography their business is their life's work and our world revolves around helping them succeed. On behalf of Crestmark, we believe our business and entrepreneurial culture are a solid match for Meta’s. Crestmark’s National Commercial Lending business should immediately benefit from Meta’s significant low cost funding capabilities, access to capital, as well as its higher legal lending limits. We also believe this transaction will provide outstanding opportunities to share expertise and talent across the combined company. Crestmark provides creative and flexible working capital solutions to a myriad of businesses who sell or provide services to other businesses through a variety of products. We pride ourselves on helping organizations access the working capital they need, no matter where they are in the business lifecycle, from startups to turnarounds, to matured enterprises and everything in between, Crestmark is well positioned to help them succeed. At June 30, 2018 Crestmark’s total loans and leases grew to approximately $1.065 billion, increasing 14% from balances at December 31, 2017. Yields on the gross loan and lease portfolio for the June quarter were approximately. Sorry about that. Yields on the gross loan and lease portfolio for the June quarter were approximately 12.6%. Crestmark’s extensive offerings in asset-based lending, equipment financing, factoring and government-guaranteed lending, provide diversified businesses from which we operate. Asset-based lending provides a line of credit based on a company's eligible accounts receivable,…

J. Tyler Haahr

Analyst

Thank you, Mick. I'd like to add that we remain confident in the financial upside and growth opportunities of the combined companies that we laid out when the deal was originally announced. We continue to anticipate that the deal will be immediately accretive to 2018 earnings excluding merger-related expenses. Now to provide a brief update on our payment and National Commercial Lending businesses, I’ll now turn the call over to Meta's President, Brad Hanson.

Brad Hanson

Analyst

Thanks Tyler. During the third fiscal quarter our team was successful in extending several third-party agreements piloting two new consumer loan programs and hiring key resources in product development and loan operations, while continuing our efforts to expand project management and software development capacity, consolidating systems and operations in our tax business and identifying key opportunities for cost savings and operational efficiencies throughout our shared services unit. Last month we announced the extension of our net relationship with Global Cash Card through 2022. As part of our relationship with this leading provider of paycard solutions, we will begin supporting widely by ADP, a brand new paycard providing innovative financial management tools, like instant pay, and digital wallet. In addition, we've negotiated extensions with two more longstanding relationships, one prepaid company and one company who uses virtual card technology to settle provider claims on behalf of health insurance companies. We are very proud of the longstanding relationships we have with our partners and are working harder than ever to expand our capabilities and provide best-in-class sponsorships support to ensure continuity of these relationships long into the future. We have announced three new National Consumer Lending programs since January of 2018, and launched two pilot programs during the fiscal third quarter, Liberty Lending and Health Credit Services, or HCS. MetaBank provide consumer launce to Liberty Lending customers to facilitate debt settlement. While loans marketed by HCS and their providers help consumers finance selective medical procedures. In addition, we've negotiated a three-year agreement with one of the nation's largest mortgage companies to originate up to $1 billion of consumer installment loans over the term of the contract. We expect this program to launch during fiscal fourth quarter. The structure of these relationships leverages the marketing, servicing, and financial strength of each party allowing…

Glen Herrick

Analyst

Thank you, Brad and good afternoon everyone. As you heard in previous comments we are pleased with our core operating result in the third quarter of fiscal 2018. On a GAAP basis we reported net income of $6.8 million in the third quarter, compared to $9.8 million in the prior year period. Diluted earnings per share were $0.70 in the fiscal third quarter of 2018, compared to a $1.04 in the fiscal third quarter of 2017. Reported earnings reflects a meaningful expenses recognized during the 2018 fiscal third quarter including $3 million of initial provision expense associated with the previously disclosed notice of insolvency received from ReliaMax Surety, which insured our purchase student loan portfolios, $2.4 million of merger related expenses, and an $800,000 expense related to the company's early termination of a vendor contract. In addition, GAAP earnings also included $1.7 million of amortization of intangibles assets and a $1.3 million of non-cash executive officer compensation expense. Importantly, we believe this loan provision expense is not a reflection of the underlying asset quality in that portfolio, while we expect to ultimately recover a substantial portion of honored insurance premiums. We cannot predict the timing and amounts of any such recovery, but it could easily take a year or longer and thus further provisioning may be required. Absent any recoveries we currently estimate additional provisioning of $600,000 to $750,000 in each of the next five quarters related to the insurers’ insolvency on the student loan portfolio. The expected sources of recoveries include assets from the liquidation of ReliaMax, a state guarantee fund, as well as other potential sources of recovery. Looking up the top line, revenue grew a 11% year-over-year and totaled $61.6 million for the third fiscal quarter. Net interest income was $28.4 million in the fiscal third quarter…

J. Tyler Haahr

Analyst

Thank you, Glen, Mick and Brad for your comments and participation today. I continue to be extremely pleased with Meta’s performance across the Board and the meaningful contributions made by each of our business lines, from our annuity-like and high fee generating tax services and payments businesses to our national lending platform and community banking operations. We are in a very strong financial position with a much more diverse and growing suite of products and services that help – that together help us achieve our vision of financial inclusion for everyone. That concludes our prepared remarks. Brad, Glen and I will be available to answer any questions. Operator, please open the line for any questions.

Operator

Operator

Certainly. [Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Michael Perito with KBW. Your line is now open.

Michael Perito

Analyst

Good evening guys, thanks for taking the questions.

J. Tyler Haahr

Analyst

Happy to do it. Good to hear from you Mike.

Michael Perito

Analyst

I wanted to – may be you just gave a quick update on the Crestmark deal. I appreciate all the color in the prepared remarks. But just curious if you could give us what the latest is on kind of like the good quarterly expense run rate to be assuming gets added in, once the deal closes August 1.

Glen Herrick

Analyst

Yes, hi Mike this is Glen. I think a good metric would be to use what was disclosed in the merger proxy and the pro forma financials for that along with some growth from those levels.

Michael Perito

Analyst

Okay.

Glen Herrick

Analyst

And I would say it's a little hard to pin down today given – there's a fair amount that will be variable growth that will depend on how fast the loan portfolio and the opportunities to continue to grow once the two companies have come together.

Michael Perito

Analyst

I guess how much of their expense is variable like depending on growth, et cetera?

Glen Herrick

Analyst

We haven't disclosed that at this point. There's certainly a fair amount of fixed expense, but there are certainly some variable expense that come along with the different collateral classes of loans.

Michael Perito

Analyst

Okay. And then on the provision, you provided few specific pieces, but I'm just thinking about the whole here, how is it – there's obviously – probably a pretty big step up to where you’ve historically been just because of your Crestmark, right. So I mean how are you guys thinking about the reserve which, I know it moves around a bit and then you have this deal coming on, which is going to, on a percentage basis has lowered even more, at least for next six quarters before season kicks in. But I guess what kind of provisioning – incremental provision rates do you expect on the Crestmark portfolio as it continues to grow?

J. Tyler Haahr

Analyst

Well the reserve levels now are – what’s that number Glen is it one point?

Glen Herrick

Analyst

Yes something like that.

J. Tyler Haahr

Analyst

Yes it's a little over 1% now. And so again the charge-off rates have historically been 57 basis points. I mean than kind of gives you the rationale behind what we expect it to be.

Michael Perito

Analyst

Okay. And then just one last question from me on net interest income. I think if we go back a year and a half or so, I think, that’s all was that you guys had a balance sheet that was well-positioned for higher rates. To me it still kind of looks like that's the case. But and I really felt the last six quarters or so is hovered in this $29 million to $31 million range. And I guess, I'm curious it has – obviously the prepaid deposit base in some of the loans are all well-positioned, but has the tax business kind of ate away the asset sensitivity of the company, because of all the temporary funding that needs to come on. And I guess is there any expectation for the margin and NII to kind of move up with rates going forward, or is that kind of the reality that we're in at this point?

J. Tyler Haahr

Analyst

So one of the things you got to reflect back on is the Tax Act. So, because we have the large and muni portfolio, so the NIM this quarter was 3.23%. Without the Tax Act it would have been 3.42%. So the NIM has gone up from where it was last year, again by almost 20, frankly almost 20 basis points if you also factor in two basis points or three basis points because we have more tax loans on the books at the end of the quarter. So if the tax loans are two basis points to three basis points, and then again that the Tax Act itself in round figures is another 21 basis points, 22 basis points, the NIM has actually gone up on an apples-to-apples basis excluding the difference in the tax loans and excluding the Tax Act has gone up from 3.25% to 3.45%. And with Crestmark obviously with the much higher yields, we will have more wholesale funding, but again those are also very short loans in nature. So you saw the yields on the Crestmark portfolio go up from early in the year. So that will continue to drive it up. I will say with our new higher legal lending limit, just like we saw with AFS, we will do some larger deals that probably, frankly larger and higher quality deals that while the stated interest rate will be a little lower than what they're getting on their current deals, the profitability will be roughly the same, because there would be higher quality and lower administrative cost for doing bigger deals instead of smaller deals. But yes we still feel like there's opportunity for NIM to move up. Crestmark will add a lot to that. Frankly the consumer lending that we will do, will add a lot to that. And again both of those are going to be very short term in nature. So when the front end of the curve moves up, it will move up the yields as well as some of the wholesale finding cost. So yes we still think we have opportunity on the margin. And in fact if you compare apples-to-apples, year-over-year we are up 20 basis points on the NIM.

Michael Perito

Analyst

Great, and as to the Crestmark deal, I mean it's still probably – I'm sure it moves around a bit. But somewhere north of 100 bips, it's all going to add to the margin once you get a full quarter’s worth in theirs, is that still kind of a decent number to be thinking about?

Glen Herrick

Analyst

That's correct Mike.

Michael Perito

Analyst

Okay, alright, thank you guys for taking my questions.

Glen Herrick

Analyst

Thanks.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from Steve Moss with B. Riley FBR. Your line is now open.

Steve Moss

Analyst · B. Riley FBR. Your line is now open.

Good afternoon guys.

Glen Herrick

Analyst · B. Riley FBR. Your line is now open.

Good afternoon, Steve.

Steve Moss

Analyst · B. Riley FBR. Your line is now open.

On the Crestmark acquisition here just want to check loan balances kind of looks like it's about to close to $1.1 billion, if my math is correct for balance as of June 30?

Glen Herrick

Analyst · B. Riley FBR. Your line is now open.

Yes, that's correct, it was $1.065 billion.

Steve Moss

Analyst · B. Riley FBR. Your line is now open.

Okay. So obviously growth has been strong, could just talk a little bit about the growth you're seeing there and how sustainable that is going forward, or will it slow down a little bit?

J. Tyler Haahr

Analyst · B. Riley FBR. Your line is now open.

Yes, we put some guidance out there when we did the acquisition with the assumptions on the growth rates. We're very comfortable, as I said on the call, with the assumptions that we put in there both with respect to the cost saves, the growth rates. We're not prepared to put higher numbers out there, but you're correct they had a good first six months to the year.

Steve Moss

Analyst · B. Riley FBR. Your line is now open.

Okay, sounds good. And then with regard to the cost saves that you plan on in the tax business, could just you go into a little further maybe get some quantum timing on that?

J. Tyler Haahr

Analyst · B. Riley FBR. Your line is now open.

Yes sure Steve. I think we've been talking about, actually since we've acquired the various tax divisions that our first call was to make sure they operate it smoothly through the upcoming tax seasons, given the once you get a shot at these businesses. But we also talked about we saw synergies in the future from combining platforms and technologies, how we go-to-market strategies, all the things you might consider around synergy. That's said, we're not yet prepared to provide guidance on specific numbers that will fall out of there, but I hope to provide additional guidance or updates on that in our next quarterly conference call.

Steve Moss

Analyst · B. Riley FBR. Your line is now open.

Okay, and then on the asset-backed loan that was disclosed in the press release, just kind of wondering what is the type of receivables that's being secured there and duration if you cover there?

J. Tyler Haahr

Analyst · B. Riley FBR. Your line is now open.

Yes, short term consumer loan.

Steve Moss

Analyst · B. Riley FBR. Your line is now open.

Yes, what loan?

J. Tyler Haahr

Analyst · B. Riley FBR. Your line is now open.

Yes what loan to value, and [indiscernible]?

Steve Moss

Analyst · B. Riley FBR. Your line is now open.

It's going to be I guess it’s an going business will be hanging around for hopefully a longer period time then, is that a fair way, or is it just literally for the quarter kind of like timing?

J. Tyler Haahr

Analyst · B. Riley FBR. Your line is now open.

No, it’s I mean we're viewing this frankly as a way to enhance earnings while we are building up the existing portfolio of consumer loans. So again we’ve talked about another program, another consumer lending program that we are going to be implementing this year. And so there are those upfront costs, we talked about that last quarter $800,000 or $1 million as a proxy for the first three. And again presumably something close to that for the one that we're announcing today. So while we have the pilot program and the ramp up, by putting that portfolio which is again very well secured, significant credit enhancements, and again we’ve the first out deal, it puts earning – significantly higher earning assets than securities on the books, in essence to offset some of that start-up cost associated with the Consumer Lending portfolios as those consent you to go up, we will continue – that portfolio will continue to try it over time. And it doesn't mean there might not be other portfolio opportunities that we might have, as well. But that individual portfolio was a portfolio purchase again that at this point is $65 million. And again by buying that portfolio, or potentially the other portfolios again that would be something that would give us balance sheet flexibility as well.

Steve Moss

Analyst · B. Riley FBR. Your line is now open.

Okay, thank you very much.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And I'm showing no further questions in the queue at this time. And this concludes the question-and-answer session. I would now turn the call back to CEO, Tyler Haahr.

J. Tyler Haahr

Analyst

Thank you. And thank you everyone who participated in Meta's quarterly investor call today. We're hard at work to deliver a strong finish to our 2018 fiscal year, including the close of our transformational acquisition of Crestmark in just a short while. I look forward to updating you again on our October investor call. Thank you again and have a great evening.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for participating in today's conference. This does conclude your program and you may all disconnect. Everyone have a great day.