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Avis Budget Group, Inc. (CAR)

Q1 2024 Earnings Call· Thu, May 2, 2024

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Operator

Operator

Greetings. Welcome to the Avis Budget Group First Quarter 2024 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants will be in a listen-only mode. A brief question-and-answer session will follow today's formal presentation. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, today's conference is being recorded. At this time, I will turn the conference over to David Calabria, Treasurer and Senior Vice President of Corporate Finance. Mr. Calabria, you may begin your presentation.

David Calabria

Analyst

Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us. On the call with me are Joe Ferraro, our Chief Executive Officer and Izzy Martins, our Chief Financial Officer. Before we begin, I would like to remind everyone that we will be discussing forward-looking information, including potential future financial performance, which is subject to risks, uncertainties and assumptions that could cause actual results to differ materially from such forward-looking statements and information. Such risks and assumptions, uncertainties and other factors are identified in our earnings release and other periodic filings with the SEC as well as the Investor Relations section of our website. Accordingly, forward-looking statements should not be relied upon as a prediction of actual results and any or all of our forward-looking statements may prove to be inaccurate, and we can make no guarantees about our future performance. We undertake no obligation to update or revise our forward-looking statements. On this call, we will discuss certain non-GAAP financial measures. Please refer to our earnings press release, which is available on our website for how we define these measures and reconciliations to the closest comparable GAAP measures. With that, I'd like to turn the call over to Joe.

Joe Ferraro

Analyst

Thank you, David. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. Yesterday, we reported our first quarter results, which delivered quarterly revenue of more than $2.5 billion and adjusted EBITDA of $12 million. This is a substantial decline from our first quarter of 2023 adjusted EBITDA of $535 million, and we will spend time on this call discussing the underlying impacts and takeaways. At a high level, though, to accurately portray the business this quarter and beyond, we need to bifurcate the impacts of non-reoccurring fleet gains, higher vehicle interest, and decisions made to right-size our fleet, as we discussed on our last call, versus comparisons with a healthy overall revenue environment and our ongoing earnings potential. We took the necessary steps to right-size our fleet this past quarter by selling a record amount of vehicles to allow for increased utilization and flexibility. Conversely, the demand environment for our business remains robust, as demonstrated by a record first quarter rental volume, and we saw sequentially improvement to our RPD throughout the months in the first quarter, with March finishing down 3%, with stronger exit trends, which we believe is a positive sign of future pricing. We'll get into greater detail on this later in the call, but right now I'd like to take a moment to thank our employees across the world for their efforts thus far in 2024. We worked hard to manage both our fleet size and our operating costs in order to appropriately position ourselves for the second quarter and summer peak, but thanks to their efforts, I believe we're now ready to move forward and capture what I believe will be a strong peak season, both domestically and internationally. Let's begin as we usually do, with the details around our Americas segment. The Americas…

Izzy Martins

Analyst

Thank you, Joe, and good morning, everyone. My comments today will focus on our adjusted results, which are reconciled from our GAAP numbers in our press release. As reflected in our earnings release, we earned $12 million of adjusted EBITDA in the quarter. Let me start by detailing the year-over-year variances in fleet and interest costs. Last year, we had more than $600 million of fleet gains, of which $250 million was in the first quarter. These oversized fleet gains were a holdover coming out of the pandemic and the gains will not replicate in 2024, given that these were a byproduct of the post-pandemic supply chain imbalance. One of our priorities was to right-size our fleet as soon as possible by driving record vehicle sales. These sales generated a small loss of approximately $40 million into the quarter as compared to $250 million gained last year. So nearly $300 million of our year-over-year quarterly decline was from this line item alone. In addition, our straight-line depreciation moved from $276 to $298, resulting in a year-over-year negative impact of $80 million. The primary driver of this increase is the additional absorption of model year 2024 vehicles into our fleet mix and declining residual values. We expect the straight-line depreciation to increase throughout the second and third quarters to roughly $350 per month before stabilizing and potentially decreasing in the fourth quarter as we start to inflate model year 2025 vehicles at more attractive cap costs. While it is early, and we have seen in Europe on the model year 2024s, which have been less expensive, conversations with our OEM partners in the U.S. appear to suggest that vehicles may be more affordable on a go-forward basis. Now shifting gears to vehicle interest. The full year impact on all of last…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. At this time, we will be conducting a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Thank you. And our first question is from the line of Ryan Brinkman with J.P. Morgan. Please proceed with your question.

Ryan Brinkman

Analyst

Hi. Thanks for taking my question. With regard to capital allocation over the balance of the year, how would you rate the relative attractiveness of using cash from operations to either paydown corporate debt or fleet debt or to buy back shares? And what about the operating environment, your own performance, or the price at which the market is valuing different parts of your capital structure makes one option or the other more attractive to you at this time? And how do you see that maybe evolving as the year progresses or into next year and beyond?

Izzy Martins

Analyst

Hi, there. Good morning. Thank you for the question. We still believe that our shares are undervalued relative to the fundamentals around current and future earnings trajectory. However, we needed to take care of our fleet disposition strategy, invest in our technological improvements, and offset rising interest rates. So I would think about it in the first half of the year, that's what we would be taking care of. As for the second half of the year, of course, we will continue to monitor all opportunities that are available to us and our shareholders. We will always evaluate the full spectrum of options, including M&A, CapEx, be it debt repayment, dividend, one-time or regular, and of course, share repurchases, as I mentioned earlier. So we will always opportunistically allocate capital to those areas that best benefit all of the stakeholders of our company.

Ryan Brinkman

Analyst

Okay, great. Thanks. And then just maybe also wanted to check in. It's been some time since the commentary back in 2021, I believe, that with regards to normalized EBITDA, that no plan submitted by the management to the board would be deemed acceptable for EBITDA in the upcoming year. It's a call for earning less than a $1 billion. And of course, since then, you went under $4 billion and haven't really opined or updated on what you think normalized earnings are. They're obviously a lot closer to the billion now than to four. But just having done that round trip and trying to think about what maybe has structurally changed relative to the $800 million or so you're doing pre-pandemic, I'm curious if you have any updated thoughts here in 2024 about what normalized earnings for the company might be and in what year maybe you'd be expected to earn a normalized amount.

Izzy Martins

Analyst

Thanks for the follow-up question. I think I'll make it quite simple. I mean, nothing really has changed. I would just simply say that nothing below a $1 billion is going to be acceptable to us. So that's really where I would leave it. So although I wasn't in this role back then, the strategy hasn't changed.

Ryan Brinkman

Analyst

Very helpful. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of John Babcock, Bank of America. Please proceed with your question.

John Babcock

Analyst

Good morning and thanks for giving me the opportunity to ask a couple of questions here. I guess just starting out, could you talk about what you're seeing on residual values? If you could just kind of go through a little bit, both on newer cars and also some of the older cars in your fleet. I was just kind of curious what you're seeing in terms of trends there.

Izzy Martins

Analyst

I think the best way to think of it is although residual values were relatively stable during the quarter, and also the Mannheim continues to be much higher than pre-pandemic levels. We do think, though, I don't know if you think about what I said about our depreciation. I think the holding cost of the cars really relates to the fact that the cap costs are a little bit higher. So as residual values persist throughout the year, we're behind, call it, the highest point of the curve. So we do expect that residual values will continue to potentially decline as the year progresses. And obviously, there are certain cohorts that may still be challenged within our fleet. Actually, as you may not have seen yet, because we are filing with the SEC probably after this call, but we'll certainly be filing today. We did experience about $40 million of losses in the quarter. It's really nominal amount. As you heard Joe say, we disposed of a record amount of vehicles in the first quarter, and that will continue probably through mid-May. The other thing is I know there's a lot of noise in the marketplace surrounding EVs. We don't have many EVs, as you know. However, the EVs are challenged from a residual value perspective. So irrespective of that, you still do need to take that into consideration. But I hope that was helpful.

John Babcock

Analyst

Yeah, it was. And then also just last quarter, I think you provided guidance for depreciation per unit of rent, $325 for 2024. Are you sticking to that guidance? Are there any reasons to think that that may have been adjusted upwards or downwards?

Izzy Martins

Analyst

You can tell from my prepared comments. In the first quarter, we came within that guidance, and I think we came in at about $318. And in my prepared remarks, I told you about the $298 and the $40 million loss. I would say what we're seeing now is that that $318 is going to ramp up. I said in the prepared remarks that it's going up to $350, most likely by the tail end of the second quarter. But I think what's more important on how the quarters progress is that we do expect it, as I said, to tail up in the second and the third. But given that it's still early in our negotiation process, we do believe that the model year '25 will be more affordable. As we inflate those in the fourth quarter and into calendar year '25, we should see that that straight-line depreciation should normalize.

John Babcock

Analyst

Okay. Thanks. And then, sorry, just one more follow-up here before I pass it on. But just curious, with the OEMs indicating that -- or at least providing some indication that the prices on the '25s will become more affordable, are they offering those discounts to you this year, or is that something that I will come more into play next year as you enter those negotiations?

Joe Ferraro

Analyst

Yeah, I'll take that. When we buy the 2025 model year buy, we'll buy it this year, we'll commit this year, and those prices will be afforded on cars as they arrive throughout the back half of this year and into next year. The question about affordability, let me just add a little color to that. I mean, it's been reported in various public sources that new cars are being priced lowest level in the past two years, and we certainly expect to get our fair share of that. So, like I said in my remarks, it's early. But what we saw in Europe, for example, because they buy the 2024s, they have to commit a little bit later. Those prices have come down quite a bit.

John Babcock

Analyst

Okay. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is from the line of Chris Stathoulopoulos with Susquehanna. Please proceed with your question.

Chris Stathoulopoulos

Analyst

Good morning. Izzy, I just want to go back to this, the per unit per fleet cost. So I think in February you had said full year around $325. 1Q is going to be a little higher than that, but you did better at $317. And we're looking at, I think now you're saying trail towards $350 for 2Q and 3Q. And depending on how these negotiations shake out, that could taper off in 4Q and perhaps move lower. So, I just for next year, I want to understand kind of the moving parts here and what's changed since you last updated around that item. Thank you.

Izzy Martins

Analyst

You certainly summarized exactly what I said. So I agree with that. I think the only thing that's changed is as we continue -- one is we accelerated the dispositions a little bit sooner than we anticipated. The next thing that maybe may have changed is the fact that as we do this on a monthly basis, we're always evaluating what our residual values would be. And also, last but not least, there was always that hope that the interest rates would come down a bit. And as you know, yes, our cars are attractive in the used car market. We still believe that and we still see that. I think what's a little bit different as for the consumer to purchase a used car is where interest rates are. So given that consumer interest rates are still very high, moving those sales proceeds on the cars is just becoming a little bit more challenging. So I think there's a combination of things that changed since I gave you the guidance of $325. I would say in the first quarter, it was well below it. And I think it's prudent to anticipate that it would be going up in the second and the third.

Chris Stathoulopoulos

Analyst

Okay. Thank you. And Joe, as a follow-up. So your prepared remarks, about a third of that was around technology. There's the system rollout in Europe. You spoke to enhancing contribution margins. There sound like there's some enterprise-level initiatives here, frictionless technology with these kiosks. Could you put a finer point or detail on how you ultimately see this benefiting revenue costs and margins? Are we in the early stages with respect to anticipated benefits? Thank you.

Joe Ferraro

Analyst

Yeah. Thank you. I talked a lot about on the last call how we created this cost transformation group headed up by a previous CFO. And I would say, yeah, we're probably in the early stages of it, but we have some things that have brought some meaningful benefit for us in the first quarter. I talked a little bit about them, but for review, we have technology improvements that enhance our scheduling for our frontline staff. And we're seeing particularly good productivity improvements. So when I say productivity, you get more clean cars, you get more customers to get processed through with less staff. And we have technology that enables us to have a different level of full-time and part-time. There's more people coming into the workforce, so that's different than the last couple of years. So that certainly helped deter wage inflation, which we had wage inflation in the first quarter of 3%, but we have productivity up 10%. So that's a definite add-on to margin, for sure. In-life vehicle maintenance around technology and procurement to deal with rising costs of inventory. We have systems in place. I'll give you an example. A tire went up from $50 to call it something closer to $100. We now have procurement involved to get us the best cost, but we also have systems to tell us which tire is the most optimal to put on, whether it be by manufacturer or by product, whether it's to use an existing tire or repair tire. So there's a whole lot of effort. I think when you think about our process, it's to take a look at what we want to solve, create the energy around it through actions, provide technology to give us insights, and then differentiate the outcome. It's kind of…

Chris Stathoulopoulos

Analyst

Okay. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is from the line of Chris Woronka with Deutsche Bank. Please proceed with your question.

Chris Woronka

Analyst

Hey, good morning, everyone. Thanks for taking the questions. The first one, and this might be for Izzy, there's been some noise in the market. Recently I think investors are just trying to gain a better understanding of kind of where you are in terms of your ABS coverage and things like that. Can you maybe give us a quick overview and talk about whether you see any funding requirements coming and things like that just to provide a little color to the market? Thanks. And then I have a follow-up.

Izzy Martins

Analyst

I'm just going to -- Chris, thanks for the question. I think I'm just going to answer right off the bat that we don't have any issues on that front. I mean, if you look at, what we report on the first table of the earnings release, we have a cushion of about $2.8 billion. And actually, that cushion, that's how we have to report it for GAAP purposes. The true cushion is $3.6 billion just because of the way ASAP is treated as a non-consolidated entity. So you really need to add back, about $840 million. So if you think about that, that makes our net advance rate in -- call it the low 80s, and we can go into the high 80s. I mean, I hope that answers your question, but I mean, the simple answer is we have plenty of headroom there.

Chris Woronka

Analyst

Yeah, no, that's great. Thanks, Izzy. And then, the second question is, if I've done the math correctly, I think you reduced your DOE on a reported basis globally by about 1.8% per transaction in the quarter. That's to me, a pretty impressive number. What's your outlook for that? And if it's not a number, it's just directionally, can that continue to decline as you build volume and work on some of these initiatives that Joe was talking about?

Izzy Martins

Analyst

You're spot on. It's exactly what Joe just went through. And as you know, we just made that transition. As I'm new to this and Brian's leading that team, and in the initial stages, we're already seeing benefits. I don't have an exact number for you. But as you stated, as you multiply it, as you take it to more locations, whatever it may be, it should continue to give us that advantage. And as you saw this particular quarter, right, even though we had a tremendous amount of vehicles going out in the quarter, all-time record, you would expect the DOE to go up because that's where we incur the costs to prepare the carts for disposition. But instead, you saw volume going up by five, record dispositions, and our DOE only went up by two. And we're just getting started in scaling up all these improvements enabled by technology that Joe took you through.

Chris Woronka

Analyst

Okay. Very good. Thanks.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Harold Antor with Jefferies. Please receive your questions.

Harold Antor

Analyst · Jefferies. Please receive your questions.

Hello. This is Harold Antor for Stephanie Moore. Joe, so I guess on the fleet, with high demand levels right now, is there any expectation for fleet additions this year? And just how does the company plan to manage that?

Izzy Martins

Analyst · Jefferies. Please receive your questions.

Hi. Thank you for the question. I think you think of it this way. Although we accelerated plenty of the dispositions into the first half or, say, the first four months, every single month will be continually to add new fleet and dispose of fleet. So it's just always a continuous cycle. So I wouldn't say that anything has significantly changed. I would just simply say that maybe what it may create is actually even more efficiencies in the peak season, given that we accelerated the deletes a little bit earlier this year.

Joe Ferraro

Analyst · Jefferies. Please receive your questions.

Yeah, I think I'll jump in here. Look, utilization was important for us, and we got our utilization back to historic norms, and I think that's a tremendous opportunity. Some of the things that I mentioned early on about some of the cost initiatives and things and productivity improvements and how we manage, I think is going to benefit us this year. Price of vehicles are high, and you're going to see us manage our fleet to a more efficient level. I believe that we can get utilizations up over prior levels in the third quarter and not deter volume.

Harold Antor

Analyst · Jefferies. Please receive your questions.

Got it. Got it. And I guess -- and I'm sorry if I missed this, but just on managing capital costs, given I guess, what appears to be a higher interest rate environment than we expected a few months ago. I guess, interest rate expectations throughout the year, if you could comment on that, that would be great.

Izzy Martins

Analyst · Jefferies. Please receive your questions.

Yeah. That's exactly why we had to adjust our depreciation to be a little bit higher than what we guided last time. So I think if you use this revised, call it, number that we gave today, I think that addresses that issue.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is from the line of John Healy with Northcoast Research. Please proceed with your questions.

John Healy

Analyst

Thank you for taking my question. First, I wanted to just talk a little bit about the summer expectations. Joe, I don't know if you'd be willing to do this, but could you talk to maybe what you think your fleet might grow in Q2 and Q3? And I think in the last statement, you just said potentially we could get utilization in Q3 above previous levels. Is there a reason to think and have some hope that if that's the case, we could have potentially positive pricing for you guys on an RPD basis in Q3?

Joe Ferraro

Analyst

Yeah. Look, I mean, it gives us our best chance there, John. That's the way I would say. We took a concerted effort to get our fleet sizes in line, right? We did it quickly. We wanted to get it behind us. That's taking into consideration new cars that may be coming in and cars that we exited. And the fact that we removed 50% of our annual sales in the first four months, I think, is pretty remarkable to get us to that level. I'm a little more optimistic on the pricing trends, quite frankly. And I know everybody does scrapes, and that's the initial price that you see in the marketplace. But I think when you think about price, you have to think about it in a couple of ways. For us, what is the segmentation of price, and what's the strategy behind what price you actually achieve? There's many different factors, whether it's commercial or leisure, whether it's exclusive partners or not, or whether it's car size based on mix. I think all those affect how we see it. And if you think about the trends, just in general, we started -- last year, we were down, in the Americas at least, down seven exiting the fourth quarter. We came in down six with March better than that. The year before, that didn't happen. The fourth quarter to the first quarter was the other way. And I like the way that we exit. And you say, well, maybe it was because Easter was in March, and there was probably a little bit more demand, possibly. But I think in order to understand pricing trends, it would be helpful to go back to the COVID years. Like in 2022, which is when you compare everything that happened in 2023, there was just an acceleration of demand, and there was a short supply of vehicles. So you got two, the demand increase and then the short supply. That really didn't end until February. We didn't actually go over it until this past February, because you had Omicron kind of like in 2022. So I think all of that accelerated behind us. And I think we took a lot of that price decline last year and in the early months of the fourth quarter. If you think about in 2023 and 2024, the biggest decline comparisons that we had compared to prior year were in the second and third quarter. That's why I'm kind of saying that, we have a shot to get to flatten potentially up. And I don't believe the fleet was going to be an inhibiting factor for us. We have systems in place that enable us to put cars in the places that matter the most. And our DFP system allows us to price cars the way we think it needs to be priced before we get to that event. So yeah, I'm pretty encouraged with the pricing trends.

John Healy

Analyst

Great. Great to hear. And then just maybe for Izzy, I wanted to talk a little bit on the car side of things, but maybe on the back end of things, on the remarketing side. Any sort of kind of progress that maybe you can point to on those initiatives that maybe change the way you're selling cars after they run through the fleet and potentially get you a higher quote unquote residual value or disposition price? And maybe where we're at in terms of kind of those being outlaid and kind of rolling out through the system.

Joe Ferraro

Analyst

I think I'll take that, John. So, yeah, we've been looking at our disposition strategy for a number of years here now. And whether we sell it direct to dealers or market connect, and we have a certain number of retail lots. And since you asked, I'll say we're really in the early phases of a direct-to-consumer platform that will allow us to sell cars digitally on some e-commerce, on an e-commerce way. And like I said, very early on, I think you might even wrote about it in one of our -- one of your releases. It's called RubyCar by Avis. It's our way that we believe that we can get higher residual values and better aftermarket by selling direct-to-consumer. You know that if we sell a car direct-to-consumer, you always have that available to you. And the reason why I say like we're looking at that is because we have -- we think we have the right to participate in that. First of all, we manufacture a lot of used cars, right? We buy all these cars new. We differentiate ourselves. We have a lot of used cars. So we have inventory. Second, we have locations to deploy. We have a lot of locations around our airport and supply chain locations, fixed vehicles that we can deploy and deliver, things of that nature. Third is, like I said, we have supply chain. We have mechanics who've been fixing cars for a long period of time, both for rental operations and for car sales, both retail and wholesale. And we have customers, right? We have corporate accounts that can use it towards an HR benefit. And we have partners who can use it as a membership perk. And we've established over the past year some technology that allows us to sell cars direct to consumers. And like I said, very early innings, but we've sold hundreds of cars. And hopefully we can capture the higher disposition costs as we start giving this more meaningful volume.

John Healy

Analyst

Great. Thank you, guys.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our last question is from the line of Lizzie Dove with Goldman Sachs. Please proceed with your question.

Lizzie Dove

Analyst

Hi, thanks so much for taking the question. I thought the color on DPU was incredibly helpful. It's just great to hear what you think kind of normal DPU is in 2025 in terms of the improvements that you think you might be able to see there. And I'll ask my follow-up now, also just any kind of help you can give in terms of international versus U.S. Thank you.

Izzy Martins

Analyst

Hi, Lizzie. Thank you for the question. I think that unfortunately it's just way too early to really give you any insights as to what we expect to see in model year, I mean, for calendar year 2025. As I said in my discussions, we expect it to improve from where we're at. But as I said we're still in the very, very early stages of the negotiations for the model year '25. And I hope that what I tried to do in my remarks was to give you kind of a walk down of what's changing year-over-year. And really what it comes down to is the fleet cost. So you're spot on, on trying to figure out, okay, which is the same thing we're trying to do is what is that cost. But as I said, it's a little bit too early to really try to anticipate what that could be in the next year, other than it should be better than where we're at today.

Lizzie Dove

Analyst

Got it. Thank you.

Joe Ferraro

Analyst

And I'll take the international part of your question. Look, we've been talking about volume not being back to 2019 levels for a number of calls now. I was pleased, however, with the transition from the fourth quarter to the third. We've seen volume improve a bit. And I think it's largely due to our -- how the segments are reacting. We've commissioned our sales team to drive business out of the United States. We think that's an opportunity for us. We have tremendous amount of partners and corporate business that we have flowing through our system here that we can utilize in a greater way. And this cross-border business comes at, particularly better pricing and also buys a lot of ancillary and actually keeps the cars longer. So it has a material effect on utilization, price improvement and volume. And as the quarters progress, it becomes a much bigger part of the international book of business. And that business books early. If you're going to go to Europe and you're leaving from the United States, you either made a reservation or you're looking to make one right now if you're looking to book into the summer. And we've seen some pretty impressive reservation improvements compared to prior year. And I think the bigger thing for us internationally is, it's definitely segmented by countries and we're developing this system called our demand fleet pricing system, which centrally manages all our pricing. I think that's going to be a big benefit for us. We'll be able to initiate price in various different countries based on price segments and strategies, looking at demand and inventory. And it's something that we haven't used over there and we've deployed it this year. And I think it's going to have meaningful benefit for the overall margin of the business.

Lizzie Dove

Analyst

Great. That's so helpful. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. At this time, we've reached the end of our question-and-answer session. I'll turn the call back to Joe Ferraro for closing remarks. End of Q&A:

Joe Ferraro

Analyst

Thank you. So to recap, we reported a strong first quarter demand with record volume in the Americas. We took the necessary actions to reduce our fleet setting, setting us up for better utilization and improved flexibility as we move through the summer peak. We saw pricing stabilized throughout the quarter. We believe travel demand will continue to be strong, and we'll continue to mitigate costs with technology and actions in our field locations. All this sets us up for what we believe are another successful spring and summer season. And I want to thank all our employees around the world for their tireless efforts. And always, I want to thank you for your time and interest in our company.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. This will conclude today's conference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation.