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Avis Budget Group, Inc. (CAR)

Q4 2017 Earnings Call· Thu, Feb 22, 2018

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Operator

Operator

Good morning, and welcome to the Avis Budget Group Fourth Quarter Earnings Conference Call. Today's call is being recorded. At this time, for opening remarks and introductions, I would like to turn the meeting over to Mr. Neal Goldner, Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead, sir.

Neal H. Goldner - Avis Budget Group, Inc.

Management

Thank you, Jill. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us. On the call with me are Larry De Shon, our Chief Executive officer; and Martyn Smith, our Interim Chief Financial Officer. Before we begin, I would like to remind everyone that the company will be discussing forward-looking information that involves risks, uncertainties and assumptions that could cause actual results to differ materially from the forward-looking information. Risks, assumptions and other factors that could cause future results to differ materially from those expressed in the forward-looking statements are identified in the company's earnings release and other periodic filings with the SEC. It can also be found on the Investor Relations section of the company's website. Except as required by law, the company undertakes no obligation to update or revise its forward-looking statements. Our comments today will focus on our adjusted results. We believe that our financial performance is better demonstrated using these non-GAAP financial measures. All non-GAAP financial measures are reconciled from the GAAP numbers in our press release and in the earnings call presentation, which is available on our website. With that, I'd like to turn the call over to Avis Budget Group's Chief Executive Officer, Larry De Shon.

Larry D. De Shon - Avis Budget Group, Inc.

Management

Thanks, Neal, and good morning. As I'm sure you saw SRS Investment Management has indicated that they intend to nominate five candidates at our upcoming annual meeting. We have had a constructive relationship with SRS and its two board representatives and obviously we are disappointed to find ourselves in this situation. We will address these matters in more detail at a later date and plan to keep the Q&A portion of today's call focused on our financial results and our strategy. Now, turning to the quarter. As I look back at 2017 despite operating in an extremely challenging environment in the first half of the year, we made significant and substantial strides that will solidify our position in the vehicle rental and mobility industry enabling us to provide better products and services to our customers while also increasing shareholder value. Steps such as significantly increasing our fleet of connected cars, launching the industry's first Mobility Lab, partnering with Waymo to support its fleet of autonomous vehicles, launching our fully integrated demand/fleet/pricing system, making strategic investments in our business that will lower our costs and further our leading position in the rapidly-changing mobility landscape and generating $354 million of adjusted free cash flow and repurchasing $200 million of our own shares. And we ended the year on a very positive note. We had a strong fourth quarter driven by good global volume growth, increased pricing, including our second consecutive quarter of positive pricing in the Americas and stable fleet costs. Our emphasis on driving manpower and shuttling efficiencies continued to yield positive results and our commitment to cost management was also effective in the quarter, with our adjusted EBITDA margin improving year-over-year. But before getting ahead of myself, I would like to now turn the call over to Martyn to discuss our results for the fourth quarter as well as our outlook for 2018.

Martyn Smith - Avis Budget Group, Inc.

Management

Thanks, Larry, and good morning, everyone. I'm now going to discuss our fourth quarter results together with our fleet cash flow, liquidity and outlook for the full year together with an update of the effects of U.S. tax reform and of the new revenue recognition accounting standard. My comments will largely focus on our adjusted results, which as Neal mentioned, are reconciled from our GAAP numbers both in our press release and earnings call presentation. Firstly, starting with an overview of our fourth quarter, strong volume growth and positive pricing led to total company revenue increasing by 7%. Fleet costs in the Americas were unchanged year-on-year, a significant improvement to the first half, while International fleet costs were 5% lower in local currency. This, in conjunction with our cost mitigating actions and the $5 million benefit from foreign exchange, led to a 16% improvement in our adjusted EBITDA to $140 million for the quarter with a 50-basis point improvement in margin. For the whole of 2017, we increased total company revenue by 2% to $8.8 billion, driven by strong 5% volume growth and 2% lower local currency pricing. Company-wide per unit fleet costs increased by 3% in local currency, partially offset by the cost mitigating actions implemented throughout the year. As a result, our adjusted EBITDA was $735 million. Now, to go into further detail on the results, starting first with the Americas, our focus on driving the most profitable transactions through improved channel and customer mix were evident in this quarter. Leisure volume and pricing each increased 5%, achieving a particularly strong Christmas season. Commercial volume and pricing were both unchanged in the quarter, the second consecutive quarter of flat rate per day, as we focused on the most profitable commercial customers. This performance resulted in a 3% improvement…

Larry D. De Shon - Avis Budget Group, Inc.

Management

Thank you, Martyn. Before we take questions, I wanted to discuss some of our strategic initiatives that we believe have the ability to drive meaningful and sustainable margin expansion over time as we demonstrated in the fourth quarter while also enabling us to succeed in the growing market for mobility services. Starting with profitable revenue growth, our fully integrated demand/fleet/pricing yield management system which makes recommendations about both pricing and fleet based on the forecasted demand is now live in 12 markets. We are finding that the improvements in our length of rental and utilization that we saw in our smaller pilot markets are applicable to larger markets as well. This gives me great confidence as we roll the full system out across the rest of the United States. And in Europe the first phase of the system, the pricing robotic, is now live in over 50 markets, allowing us to be far more responsive to changes in the marketplace with full market coverage expected ahead of this year's summer peak. Our initiatives to drive incremental bookings through our direct channels are also producing great results. Conversion rates in the Americas increased by 120 basis points in the quarter while prepaid reservations increased 600 basis points year-over-year and now represent over 35% of reservations made on our proprietary platform. Ancillary revenue continued to be a challenge in the fourth quarter, but the bundling initiative we launched at the end of last year is showing promise particularly on the Avis brand. We have also made ancillaries easier to select for customers that book on our website and I'm excited about the early results. Americas' ancillary sales grew 4% on avis.com in the quarter including an 8% improvement for the month of December. Our Avis mobile app also continues to be a…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our first question comes from Chris Woronka with Deutsche Bank. Sir, your line is open.

Chris J. Woronka - Deutsche Bank Securities, Inc.

Analyst

Hey, good morning, guys. Wanted to ask you, as you think about how pricing unfolded in the fourth quarter, how do you kind of bucket that between maybe industry-wide supply, some of your own revenue initiatives, and demand growth? Is there a way to kind of parse that out, if you can?

Larry D. De Shon - Avis Budget Group, Inc.

Management

Well, what I'd say is that we've been working really hard on the commercial side of the business to really start targeting segments of the business that produced a higher rate per day. So we've been really zoning in on our mid-market accounts and our small business accounts to try to bring more higher rated per day business into the segments. You couple that with we had just a really robust Thanksgiving and Christmas season, a very, very strong robust Christmas season. And I think also DFP, the demand/fleet/pricing system, continues to yield benefits for us when we get into those really peak periods, where we're able to really yield our pricing up. And that's what it was really designed to help us do, and we're seeing that play through, as well as we looked at Thanksgiving and Christmas.

Chris J. Woronka - Deutsche Bank Securities, Inc.

Analyst

Okay, great. I guess the follow-up is kind of on some of the mobility initiatives and specifically Waymo, but maybe some others that you haven't announced yet. How do you kind of generically see that unfolding over the next several years? Is 2018 a much bigger year than 2017 or is 2019 more? I'm just kind of curious as to your thoughts as to how maybe your involvement evolves over time?

Larry D. De Shon - Avis Budget Group, Inc.

Management

Well, definitely, we'll continue to expand our operations with Waymo as they continue to expand and add thousands of new cars to their program. We are talking to other mobility solution providers as far as how we might be able to partner with them, and I think we'll start to see some of those unfold as well over 2018 and into 2019. And then, I think as you look at our connected car initiatives and the opportunities to partner with people as we expand our connected car program into more fleet is definitely a longer-term approach to how we can drive more efficiencies into the business and drive revenue opportunities through partnerships, through connectivity, as well as the service improvements that we're going to offer our customers as well. So I think there's a number of steps that will unfold over a number of years. And I think you'll continue to see us move down the mobility path each year, year-after-year, as it continues to grow as an important part of how we're going to develop our business over time.

Operator

Operator

Thank you, Mr. Woronka. Our next question comes from John Healy with Northcoast Research. Sir, your line is open.

John Healy - Northcoast Research Partners LLC

Analyst · Northcoast Research. Sir, your line is open.

Thank you. Larry, I was hoping you could talk just a little bit about maybe the trends that you've seen in the first quarter as it relates to kind of pricing in the U.S. It's two months almost into the quarter. Have you seen that momentum that you saw in the leisure side in the fourth quarter continue on or have you seen any sort of kind of breakage there?

Larry D. De Shon - Avis Budget Group, Inc.

Management

Well, without really commenting on what actual pricing has been going on in the quarter, what I would say is that, a couple of things. One is that the dynamics of the industry are what you would normally expect in the first quarter. The times of the week and the weeks of the quarter that you would expect for the industry to be tight on fleet. The industry has been and on the times of the quarter where you would expect that not to be, it hasn't been. The first quarter is more of a commercial quarter. There's not much activity other than some spring breaks, but they don't drive the volume of business that causes the industry to really run out of cars as like Thanksgiving and like Christmas does. So the first quarter is typically more commercial quarter. So you're not going to find as many opportunities for things like DFP to work and really be able to yield up your pricing. But what I would say is that the first quarter is not at all like we've been experiencing in the last few years. It's back to what you would normally expect first quarter fleets to be behaving like. And with Easter kind of the 1st of April, you might get a couple of days of benefit in the end of March, but there's just not a lot of peak activity happening in the first quarter.

John Healy - Northcoast Research Partners LLC

Analyst · Northcoast Research. Sir, your line is open.

Understood. And then I wanted to ask just a little bit about fleet interest cost. I've gotten a lot of questions about how you guys may be impacted by rising rates and the amount of maturities that you kind of have on the fleet side coming up in the next couple of years. When you guys look at the pieces of debt that will fall off, say, in 2018 and 2019 and what you might be able to replace those pieces at, how do you see fleet interest expense kind of trending maybe over the next two to three years given the current rate environment that we are in today?

Martyn Smith - Avis Budget Group, Inc.

Management

Yeah. It's Martyn. So I called out a likely extra cost in 2018 of about $20 million. That's simply U.S. interest rates on the point you're picking up on the variable fleet debt. The eurozone we're expecting to be flat for 2018 and a little bit of pickup in Australia and New Zealand that really is the U.S. story at the moment and then probably 2019 onwards further U.S. increases and then the eurozone then picking up. So we've got about $1.5 billion naturally coming off next year and then we're replacing. So our $20 million reflects essentially our anticipation of those maturities come through as the renewal as well. So there will be quite an increase progressively coming up over the next several years and it's obviously industry-wide, not just ourselves.

Operator

Operator

Thank you, Mr. Healy. Your next question comes from David Tamberrino with Goldman Sachs. Your line is open, sir. David Tamberrino - Goldman Sachs & Co. LLC: Well, thank you. Good morning. Larry, wondering how the industry-wide fleet is in the U.S.? Looking at the fourth quarter, your fleet continued to grow in the same lines as where volume was, the utilization was flat and I think from your comments, you're planning to under grow your expected volume increase for the year to drive utilization up. Curious as to what you're seeing from a discipline standpoint from your major competitors?

Larry D. De Shon - Avis Budget Group, Inc.

Management

Yeah, just first of all about our fourth quarter fleet coming in at about flat on the utilization perspective. What really drove that – I mean our intent is to build the fleet to under demand. We're going to continue to drive utilization and we have that built into our plan for 2018. What happened really in the fourth quarter is when the hurricane, the first hurricane hit, we actually pulled forward deliveries that were going to be delivered late in the quarter or beginning of the first quarter this year to help meet that demand of relief worker demand, plus where we just thought fleets were going to tighten up for insurance replacement business that other car rental companies might take, we pulled some fleet forward into the quarter. And when the relief business didn't materialize or at least didn't stay the length that we had planned for and how it has really occurred in previous hurricanes as we discussed in the last quarter call, we had that fleet then in the quarter earlier and longer than we had really needed it. So, the team worked really hard as they went through the rest of the quarter to try to disperse that fleet, get it on rent and delete fleet where possible to get ourselves back to kind of a flat position and also to be able to make sure we have the right fleet for the opportunities for Thanksgiving and Christmas. So, they did a really good job. Looking back now where we've pulled as many cars forward as we did, no, but we expected the relief business to be stronger and longer than it was. As far as the industry fleet levels, I would say they were pretty typically normal. I mean, I think other people also brought fleet forward. So, the hurricane does kind of throw a little bit of a – little bit of difficulty into looking at the quarter. But once you get past that and you just take a look at how the rest of the quarter unfolded and how we turned into the year, I would say fleet levels are kind of back to what you'd consider a normal year and a normal turn into the new year. David Tamberrino - Goldman Sachs & Co. LLC: Okay, understood. And just there's a little bit of line of questioning earlier and I know you don't want to talk about what you're seeing so far for the first couple of months, but it would seem as if the fourth quarter pretty strong from a pricing perspective, but your full year even when we adjust for the accounting change still implies slightly down from what the 4Q 2017 levels were. Is that just an abundance of caution or is that kind of indicative of what you're seeing so far in the first quarter, understanding it's seasonally weak?

Larry D. De Shon - Avis Budget Group, Inc.

Management

Well, I don't think you want to plan the full year pricing based on how you performed on Thanksgiving and Christmas. So we've had some difficult years in pricing, the last few years. And so we are looking at our year-over-year trends, we're looking how we exited the year, we're taking all that into consideration as we take a look – we build our volume kind of from the ground up. We don't just take the volume that we did last year and lap on an increase. We literally build it up account by account by account and our partnerships and so forth and we get to where we really think our volume is going to be. And so the pricing reflects what we think will really happen as we transition out of what's been a very difficult period for the last few years and to a more normalized period. And I hope we're wrong. I hope that pricing will be even stronger than that. We do have the loyalty impact that is impacting the year and will definitely impact more of the first quarter than the rest of the year. But no, I don't – I wouldn't say it's a conservative approach. What I'm saying is that we're just – we need more than just a Thanksgiving and a Christmas to be more aggressive than what we're being.

Operator

Operator

Thank you, Mr. Tamberrino. Our next question comes from Hamzah Mazari with Macquarie. Your line is open, sir. Mario Cortellacci - Macquarie Capital (USA), Inc.: Hi, guys. This is Mario Cortellacci filling in for Hamzah. Could you give us an update on what you're seeing in business travel and whether you believe tax reform could lead to more of a pickup and also could you update us on your current market share in business travel?

Larry D. De Shon - Avis Budget Group, Inc.

Management

Well, as I said earlier, we've been working really hard on trying to grow some of the other segments in the corporate channel business. The large commercial accounts continue to be very competitive from everyone trying to win those accounts to the pricing that's offered in those accounts. We're not losing those accounts, we're hanging on to those accounts and we're hanging on to our share in those accounts. So we've been really focusing more of our attention on our mid-market and small business accounts, trying to win more of that business. It's a longer haul to do that, but if we stay focused on it, as we were all last year, we'll continue to drive more volume and commercial at a higher rate than what you're going to get with the large commercial accounts. And we're starting to see that pay off. As Martyn said, we've had kind of two months in a row – or two quarters in a row here, where we've been able to improve our – keep our pricing flat on commercial and we've seen volume growth in the fourth quarter as well as small volume uptick in the fourth quarter as well on the commercial business. So that's far better than where we had been in the beginning part of last year and the year before. So we're staying focused on building that, but, no, from a share perspective, we're holding on to our share, we're holding on to our accounts and we're trying to build those other segments that come at a higher profitability. Mario Cortellacci - Macquarie Capital (USA), Inc.: Okay. And just one more and I'll turn it over. Could you give us a sense of whether or not an infrastructure bill that goes through, will that have any impact on the car rental industry or maybe you could frame how we should be thinking about that?

Larry D. De Shon - Avis Budget Group, Inc.

Management

Well, I think it does because I think any time that you can invest in airports and create a better environment for consumers to transit through the airports, create better facilities, better traffic flows, those all help the rental car industry. So we're a big component of the infrastructure bill. We want to see the investments made to modernize our airports and modernize our roads and I think all of those play well to someone that's in the mobility business like we are to have roads that are up to date and to have the latest technology in the airports that we serve. Mario Cortellacci - Macquarie Capital (USA), Inc.: Got you. Thank you so much.

Operator

Operator

Thank you, Mr. Mazari (sic) [Cortellacci]. Our next question comes from Derek Glynn with Consumer Edge Research. Your line is open, sir.

Derek J. Glynn - Consumer Edge Research LLC

Analyst · Consumer Edge Research. Your line is open, sir.

Yeah. Hi. Thanks for taking my question. This is Derek on for Jamie. Wondering if you could elaborate more on the international environment, what you're seeing from competitors and whether you think fleet sizes are more rational now versus prior quarters.

Larry D. De Shon - Avis Budget Group, Inc.

Management

The pricing environment internationally continues to be really tough. We've been really fighting this fight now for the last couple of years and it doesn't really seem to be getting – there doesn't seem to be strategic changes in the competition that's going to change there anytime soon. That's why we're rolling out our pricing robotic and then eventually we'll get to the final phases of DFP there as well, so that our International team can have the benefit of being able to forecast further out, be able to take advantage of more yielding opportunities, have the confidence that fleets will tighten up in periods, so they can make decisions further out to drive more length of rental and improve their utilization. So those things are all actions that we're taking to improve pricing from our own perspective. But the industry dynamics really aren't changing. We are seeing a growth of the third tier segment providers. A lot of people getting into kind of the lower tier offering, really started in kind of Portugal and Spain, has expanded into Italy, and now starting to expand in some other countries as well. And that's something that we're going to need to contend with as far as how we compete in that third tier. So, yeah, we're managing through it. And as we said, they had a really good year last year overall, but they weren't helped by pricing; they had to do it through a lot of other hard work, driving volume, cost cutting, being more efficient. And we would really like to see pricing start to improve there.

Derek J. Glynn - Consumer Edge Research LLC

Analyst · Consumer Edge Research. Your line is open, sir.

Okay, got it. And then just a point of clarification, does your guidance for 2018 include any assumptions around buybacks?

Martyn Smith - Avis Budget Group, Inc.

Management

So the guidance within the interest costs, yes, the corporate interest rate, so it's net of that, yeah.

Operator

Operator

Thank you, Mr. Glynn. Our next question comes from Dan Levy with Barclays. Your line is open, sir.

Dan M. Levy - Barclays Capital, Inc.

Analyst · Barclays. Your line is open, sir.

Hi, yes. Thank you for taking the question. I want to start by asking about your pricing guide. Within your expectation for total RPD flat up to – and I think it's really more like up 0.5 point to 2.5 points, ex the headwind from the accounting change you mentioned. Could you just break out your underlying assumptions for core time and mileage versus ancillary? And I ask that just because that last year on a total RPD basis it was down roughly 2 points, ancillary down I think low-single digits as well. Just what are the broad strokes or what's driving the turnaround in ancillaries, because I know it's been under pressure in the past?

Larry D. De Shon - Avis Budget Group, Inc.

Management

Yeah. I think if you were to put our guidance in context of our old metric, it would be pretty much the same. Our ancillary revenue has been under pressure and as we said, and we are working hard to try to turn that around, we're pretty excited about what we're seeing online. Our online team has been working really hard on how to present ancillary products in a more clear, concise, understandable way on the website, so people really clearly understand what their options are; and also in the bundling initiative that we launched towards the end of last year, where we're putting products together, so it makes it easier for customers just to be able to click on a bundled product. And we're seeing nice uptake on that, particularly on avis.com. So we've got some more work to do as more and more people move to mobile apps and website, and we're seeing improvement in conversion of customers on our site. So more and more bookings are coming through that channel, more and more people are using the prepaid option as well. We've got to find more ways to be able to offer those products to consumers, no matter which device they're going to. So we've got some more work to do on the mobile app as well. We're excited by the usage of the mobile app, but we've got to make sure that we can offer ancillary products in a way that people can clearly take advantage of them and do it timely.

Dan M. Levy - Barclays Capital, Inc.

Analyst · Barclays. Your line is open, sir.

And then within the core time and mileage piece, is that assumed to be positive as well, assume modestly?

Larry D. De Shon - Avis Budget Group, Inc.

Management

Yes. That would assume that time and mileage would be positive. Yes.

Dan M. Levy - Barclays Capital, Inc.

Analyst · Barclays. Your line is open, sir.

Got it. And then, just one follow-up. If I take the midpoint of your guides for EBITDA, price and fleet costs, it implies that while the net of your fleet costs and price should be positive, you're still guiding to margin roughly flat versus 2017. And I think typically what we've seen in the past is when the net of fleet costs and price is positive, it implies margin expansion. So why is it that you're not looking for margin expansion in 2018 despite the assumed view that the net of these variables is positive?

Martyn Smith - Avis Budget Group, Inc.

Management

We'd like to achieve that. I called out the headwinds earlier. So we got things we're stepping back into, particularly marketing expense and incentive comp coming through as well and the U.S. interest rates, we discussed earlier. So the headwinds are essentially holding us back to an extent in 2018.

Dan M. Levy - Barclays Capital, Inc.

Analyst · Barclays. Your line is open, sir.

Okay. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you Mr. Levy. Our next question is from Michael Millman with Millman Research Associates. Your line is open.

Michael Millman - Millman Research Associates

Analyst

Thank you. Not to be particularly picky, but you mentioned or you characterized fleets as being normal. I'm not sure if normal means what we saw in the first half or the second half. Kind of related to that, we're seeing OEMs always talking about again reducing sales to the car rental business. Does this suggest that fleets may well be a tighter in 2018 than they were at least in the second half of 2017? Yes, 2017.

Larry D. De Shon - Avis Budget Group, Inc.

Management

Michael, this is Larry. Yeah, I certainly hope so. The OEMs have been decrease – some of the OEMs have been decreasing sales to the fleet industry. We saw that in the 2018 buy and we saw that in the 2017 buy as well. When I talk about kind of back to normal, I really mean – I refer back to a few years ago prior to industry issues that some competitors had in the industry as far as over-fleeting or having the wrong mix, which has then caused over-fleeting to occur. So we're kind of back to prior to those types of problems in the history I feel like we're kind of back to the periods before that. Can they always get tighter? Sure. And I'm sure, every rental car company is working on trying to find those times when they can have their cars during the valets (49:44) as low as they possibly can and the cars during the peak as high as they possibly can to meet that peak. So, through our fleet optimization team and through the data that we're now being able to integrate into optimization models, we're just getting more and more sophisticated about how we buy our cars using data and third-party data to help us figure out how to buy our cars, when to buy our cars, where to inflate them and where to exit them at kind of what stage of their life to really maximize residual values and also able to have the cars in the markets that we need them at the time those markets peak. As you can imagine, all the markets we serve across the United States that's a very complicated model to work and our guys run these models every day all day long to make sure that we're constantly tweaking and changing our fleet to make sure that we try to drive that utilization benefit. We had flat utilization really for the year and that was actually a remarkable feat when you think about us switching – transitioning in 2017 to go up 10 points in risk cars over program cars. What that means is that you had a lot fewer short-term cars that you could turn back quickly to bring your fleet levels down and to be able to make that transition and be able to drive flat utilization when the majority – when the much bigger part of your fleet is a longer-term fleet hold took a lot of effort by the optimization teams and the guys in the field to really be able to deliver on that. So we're kind of through that 10-point improvement transition and risk, and now we can go into next year with – we're going into 2018 with a risk fleet that is similar to our 2017 risk fleet, and that allows us then to continue to find those opportunities to try to drive the utilization up and the team is very focused on it for 2018.

Michael Millman - Millman Research Associates

Analyst

So, I guess related a bit, when you talk about 0% to 2% U.S. – Americas' increase in pricing, should we look at that as similar to the fourth quarter, where it was more like 5% on leisure and flat on commercial. Do you see that mix shifting in some way?

Larry D. De Shon - Avis Budget Group, Inc.

Management

Well, I think what you'll find is that we're continuing to shift more of our business towards leisure, which will cause more peakiness if you will in kind of the third quarter and at the end of the second quarter and third quarter, beginning of the fourth quarter. So that's just kind of how the business is shifting. As I said, we're not losing share in the corporate business, but we are starting to see more leisure business come through. In those periods when our fleets are tight, which they now have – fleets are more normal when they get tight for peak periods of leisure travel, we're seeing the leisure rates move up fairly significantly. I think the large commercial accounts, as I said, will continue to be very competitive. And so I wouldn't expect big price improvements in that segment.

Michael Millman - Millman Research Associates

Analyst

Okay. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you, Mr. Millman. That was our final question. For closing remarks, I will now turn the call back over to Mr. Larry De Shon. Please go ahead, sir.

Larry D. De Shon - Avis Budget Group, Inc.

Management

Thank you very much. I think that's pretty much it for us today. We appreciate everyone calling into the call and we appreciate your continued interest in our company. Have a great day.

Operator

Operator

This concludes today's conference call. You may disconnect at this time.