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CAMP4 Therapeutics Corporation (CAMP)

Q2 2021 Earnings Call· Thu, Sep 24, 2020

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Operator

Operator

Welcome to CalAmp’s Second Quarter 2021 Financial Results Conference Call. As a reminder, this call is being recorded. I would now like to introduce your host for today’s conference call, Leanne Sievers, President of Shelton Group, CalAmp’s Investor Relations firm. Leanne, you may begin.

Leanne Sievers

Management

Good afternoon, and welcome to CalAmp’s fiscal second quarter 2021 financial results conference call. I’m Leanne Sievers, President of Shelton Group, CalAmp’s Investor Relations firm. With us today are CalAmp’s President and Chief Executive Officer, Jeff Gardner; and Chief Financial Officer, Kurt Binder. Before we begin, I would like to remind you that this call may contain forward-looking statements. While these forward-looking statements reflect CalAmp’s best current judgment, they are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those implied by these forward-looking projections. These risk factors are discussed in our periodic SEC filings and in the earnings release issued today, which are available on our website. We undertake no obligation to revise or update any forward-looking statements to reflect future events or circumstances. Jeff will begin today’s call with a review of the company’s financial and operational highlights, then Kurt will provide additional details about the second quarter results, followed by a question-and-answer session. With that, it’s my pleasure to turn the call over to CalAmp’s President and CEO, Jeff Gardner. Jeff, please go ahead.

Jeff Gardner

Management

Thank you, Leanne. Welcome, everyone, and thanks again for joining us today to discuss our second quarter results, which were solid, especially considering the ongoing global pandemic. We continue to execute across the organization with notable progress against the operating plan objectives we put in place upon my appointment. The entire CalAmp team continues to perform at high levels of productivity and efficiency as we strive to position the company for increased growth and profitability. Consolidated revenue in the second quarter was $83.5 million, with adjusted EBITDA margin of 6.5%, which included some one-time costs incurred in the quarter. SaaS revenue was up 20% sequentially, due to an increase in installations across our global operations, particularly in Italy and the UK, as automotive dealerships began to reopen, and in our U.S., K-12 fleet management operations as students return to school. Network OEM revenue also increased in the quarter due to strong growth at Cat as their 3G to 4G upgrade cycle continues to accelerate. The one area of our business that continues to see variability and demand from the pandemic is our MRM Telematics product sales and the associated device installations. This has been most prominent among our regional TFP partners. As one of our top objectives, we’re looking to drive increased growth of our SaaS business, and this is evidenced by our strong sequential growth in the quarter to 40% of total consolidated revenue. We’re also continuing to further enhance our supply chain under Nathan Lowstuter’s leadership. Now, I’d like to highlight some of our additional achievements during the quarter in support of our key operating objectives. First, let me start with our international expansion initiatives, which continue to be a strong contributor of our growth. Our operations in Italy have been a key contributor to these efforts and…

Kurt Binder

Management

Thank you, Jeff. Today, my commentary will include reference to the non-GAAP financial measures of adjusted basis net income, adjusted EBITDA, and adjusted EBITDA margin. A full reconciliation of these non-GAAP measures with the closest corresponding GAAP basis measures is included in the press release announcing our fiscal 2021 second quarter earnings that was issued earlier today. I want to reiterate once again, that we continue to monitor all COVID-19 developments across our worldwide operations. And as the cost controls we put in place, particularly in areas such as personnel, travel, and other discretionary spending remain in place. We continue to believe that our existing cash, future cash flows, and available borrowing capacity are sufficient to fund our ongoing operations as we continue to navigate these uncertain times. As Jeff mentioned, we are pleased with our solid second quarter results, in which revenues increased 4% sequentially to $83.5 million. International revenue in the quarter totaled $24.6 million, or 29% of consolidated revenue. Software and subscription services revenue grew 20% sequentially to $33.7 million, or approximately 40% of consolidated revenue. In addition to growing demand for our SaaS solutions, revenue benefited from the fulfillment of installation backlog that we discussed last quarter, which ranged from $2.5 million to $3.5 million, as automotive dealerships and school districts advanced plans for reopening. We continue to see strong demand across our SaaS business as scheduled installations proceed, now that mandates have been lifted and reopenings are occurring principally in the United States. One important decision we made last quarter was the wind down on our vehicle finance business in the U.S. Revenue from this business was up slightly in the second quarter to $2.8 million, as we sold through and installed a majority of the remaining inventory to select customers. However, we do expect…

Jeff Gardner

Management

Thank you, Kurt. In closing, I’m very pleased with our performance in the second quarter as the CalAmp team continues to execute on our strategic initiatives across the organization. I believe the success we continue to achieve in our SaaS business is an indication of the opportunities ahead of us as we transform our business towards becoming a leading SaaS Telematics solutions provider. We have an exceptional team in place to advance to the next level of growth and expansion. With that, now I’d like to open the calls up to your questions. Operator?

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Mike Latimore with Northland Capital Markets. Your line is open.

Mike Latimore

Analyst

Thanks, Jeff, and congratulations on the solid quarter there. So, I just wanted to touch on the – you gave a little bit of color around third quarter dynamics. It sounded like sort of positive offsetting weakness. So should we think about it as kind of a 3Q being similar to 2Q?

Jeff Gardner

Management

Yes, Mike, and thanks for your comment on the quarter. We were really pleased, as you saw, particularly, what we’re trying to do here in terms of transformation. So the SaaS business came in real strong. Some of that was backlog, as Kurt referred to, but we also had some very strong demand in LoJack International and also in our K-12 Here Comes The Bus business. So that was very solid and another real strong quarter with Caterpillar as they continue their 4G migration, and so I think those are the strong points. And as Kurt mentioned, MRM continues to be soft related to the regional TSPs and kind of their outlook. These are smaller companies that are just being more cautious understandably in this environment. So, as we look forward, I think we’ll see more of that come continued strength in the SaaS business, continued strength in Caterpillar going forward. And we’re really focused on accelerating some of the 4G work that we know is in front of us. So whether or not our customers had moved forward with 4G today or not we know there’s still a big opportunity there. And so working with them, as they kind of navigate through these difficult times will be important. But overall, I mean, yes, it’s kind of a mixed approach, but on average, we’re feeling really good about how we performed in the quarter.

Mike Latimore

Analyst

Great. And then on the school environment, can you talk a little bit about maybe just segment out, kind of how much access you have within the school districts? Are you back to kind of complete accessible and normal deployment opportunities? And then separately, what does sort of the new deal flow look like there?

Jeff Gardner

Management

Yes. The school markets been a great surprise in terms of – there’s a lot of uncertainty as to what was going to happen as we got closer to the fall here. And many of our customers are opened up. We were able to make substantial progress on our backlog. So, we got access to some of the vehicles that we’ve been trying to get access to for some periods here. So that was all good. And we’ve just been very pleased with the adoption. I think the innovation that the team came up with on Bus Guardian made an already attractive product to really add software technology to school buses to provide assurance to parents, which is more important now than ever. And when you include the ability to provide contact tracing information and hygiene verification, it gives everybody fleet managers, parents a lot of peace of mind. So, we’re feeling good about that segment. It’s a very strong SaaS business for us, where we’re a leader in market share, but there’s still plenty of market to get. And we added a lot of new logos in double-digit new logos this quarter. So, we’re very pleased with that.

Mike Latimore

Analyst

Great. And then just last time, the one-time costs that you said there was $1.4 million one. Did you say there was another one-time cost? I think I might have missed that.

Jeff Gardner

Management

Yes. There was a small relocation expense that was in G&A that Kurt mentioned, that was about 300,000, that’s – those are truly one-time. And as Kurt mentioned, the one-time cost, the $1.4 million was related to a firmware problem that drove some excessive airtime charges. We corrected it immediately. So it’s not going to be recurring. It’s no longer an issue. It was the right thing to do for one of our very big customers.

Mike Latimore

Analyst

All right. Thanks a lot.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is from Mike Walkley with Canaccord Genuity. Your line is open.

Mike Walkley

Analyst

Great. Thanks for taking my question. Jeff, just a clarification on Caterpillar. Did you – thought I might have heard in the script that you might have expanded some business with them? Can you just maybe clarify that? And then for Caterpillar, any color you can get how far they are into the 3G to 4G upgrade and kind of the run rate opportunity with this key client going forward?

Jeff Gardner

Management

Yes. Well, it wasn’t really new business. Basically, what we had was affirmation, which is important now. It was a big deal to us, too. You might have seen the press release earlier in the quarter, to reaffirm that we’re going to be their partner as they upgrade to 4G for their critical devices. So that’s really important. As you know, all customers have optionality when it comes to these equipment change outs. So with our largest customer to get that was very meaningful to us. And they’re making good progress on their 4G migration, but they’ve still got plenty to do. I think Kurt mentioned that. We think the outlook for next quarter remains very strong there. And so we’re really focused on doing the best possible job to deliver to them on-time, good quality, so that they can make as much progress on that in 2021 as possible.

Mike Walkley

Analyst

Great. Thanks for clarifying that and congrats on keeping them as a partner that – that’s key. And just the overall 3G to 4G upgrade, anything you can share maybe on a number of your 3G devices still out there that you have a good chance to upgrade to 4G as a tailwind as things reopen through the sunset date or over the next, call it, six quarters?

Jeff Gardner

Management

Yes. We still have a big opportunity. We estimate somewhere between 500,000 and a million devices translate that to revenue, somewhere between $50 million and $100 million of revenue, and that’s with our existing customers. And hopefully, we’ll get some opportunities with new customers as well. So, I mean, as I said earlier, this 4G conversion work is going to be done. The timing – the pandemic is affecting the timing in some cases. But we think that that’s an opportunity for us over the next six quarters as you say.

Mike Walkley

Analyst

Great. Thanks. Last question for me, and I’ll pass the line.

Jeff Gardner

Management

Thank you.

Mike Walkley

Analyst

Congrats on the awards provision in iOn Vision product. Can you talk about maybe the timing when that starts to hit revenue? And any early feedback from customers that might be trialing that key product?

Jeff Gardner

Management

Yes. The Tags are out there already, as you know, and it’s early days for that. But over the next quarter or two, you’ll see us really do more volume. It won’t be big volume early in terms of revenue. But I mean, importantly, that is a very important step in our roadmap. And we thought – we think that although there are other camera products out there, this one is quite unique in some of the capabilities that it offers our customers. So, I think in terms of when you’ll see it hit revenue will be over the next couple of quarters. But it’s something that our customers are really interested in us in terms of our roadmap.

Mike Walkley

Analyst

Great. Okay, that’s on the execution and thanks for taking my questions.

Jeff Gardner

Management

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

The next question is from George Notter with Jefferies. Your line is open.

George Notter

Analyst

Hi, guys, thanks very much. I know with the new person you’ve brought in running supply chain, I know there was some work going on around cost redesigns on specific products and specific skews. Is there a big cost savings there that you guys can capture? How big might that be? How – what might the timing look like on that? Thanks.

Jeff Gardner

Management

Yes. Thanks, George. Yes, Nathan Lowstuter joined. We’ve got a really solid supply chain team that’s been really focused on on-time delivery over the last, if you look, back four quarters. We do think there’s upside in terms of managing our bonds, our cost better going forward. That takes time, as you know it’s not something that changes overnight. But I will tell you, we have a comprehensive program to work on margins across our product lines. And I think you’ll see us make progress over the next couple of years on that and see some results, maybe starting in the fourth quarter of this year.

George Notter

Analyst

Got it. And then just as a follow-up. I was – obviously, the environment and the headlines are being dominated by COVID and the vaccine, and I certainly there’s got to be logistics challenges associated with distributing the vaccine. Is there any role for CalAmp in that distribution supply chain?

Jeff Gardner

Management

George, in terms of distributing a vaccine?

George Notter

Analyst

Correct.

Jeff Gardner

Management

So, as you know, we do have a solution called SC iOn, which is all about managing inventory across the supply chain, in particular, high value inventory. And so we do see opportunities. I can’t say specifically, that I can speak to an exact example. But yes, we think we have a solution that will allow logistics and distribution companies, the visibility that they need to make sure that the vaccine is getting to the right location, and that it isn’t being impacted by whether it’s humidity, climate, anything of such. So, we do feel like there is a solution there that CalAmp can bring to bear and we’re working to find customers that will allow us to put that in play.

George Notter

Analyst

Fair enough. Thanks very much.

Jeff Gardner

Management

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is from Jerry Revich with Goldman Sachs. Your line is open.

Jerry Revich

Analyst

Yes. Hi. Good afternoon, everyone.

Jeff Gardner

Management

Hi, Jerry.

Kurt Binder

Management

Hi, Jerry.

Jerry Revich

Analyst

Can you talk about in software and subscription you had excellent profitability performance in terms of gross profit dropped through relatively sales growth? Can you just talk about what allowed you to deliver the strong operating leverage in the quarter? And then separately, on the top line performance in software subscription, can you just give us an update on what proportion of that was driven by revenue per subscriber growth versus the subscriber count increasing?

Kurt Binder

Management

So, Jerry, I try to take – there was a couple of questions, I think in that. First off, we were extremely pleased. Yes, we saw organic growth in our software and subscription services business year-over-year, probably around 5% to 8%. The growth was primarily coming from really two locations, one was selling into the K-12 municipality, government fleet end market; and two was really starting to get some traction internationally with our international recovery services. We’re – we’ve been extremely pleased with the way that we’ve been executing on the businesses that we acquired last year – early last year. And we’re seeing that the subscriber growth is coming back after the last quarter, which we had a bit of the overhang from the pandemic. We’re also seeing that the ARPU is associated with the subscriber growth are pretty robust. So, overall, very, very pleased. Your reference to the gross margin improvement, now we’ve always anticipated that our software and subscription service businesses have the ability to execute to a gross margin level at or above 50%. And although we had some challenges early on with the acquisitions because of very purchase accounting adjustments that did have an impact on our overall margin. The impact of those purchase accounting adjustments are starting to dissipate, which is certainly helping us. So hopefully, I think that answers the nature of your question.

Jerry Revich

Analyst

It does. Yes, thank you for the color. And then, the purchase accounting adjustments, should we look for an additional tailwind sequentially going forward or is this the current clean margin runway at this point?

Kurt Binder

Management

Actually, there is still some remnants of the purchase accounting, which should dissipate over the balance of this year. And once we’ve gotten past fiscal 2021, it should be completely behind us, but there is a little bit of the remnant still there and it is impacting our margins finally.

Jerry Revich

Analyst

Got it. Okay, thank you. And then in the mobile resource management sub-segment, it looks like revenue was down sequentially, which compared to most industrial markets, there was a pickup over the course of, call it, June, July, August from April, May levels. Can you just talk about what drove that sequential decline for your MRM business in the quarter? And what – to what extent you expect the pick up compared to what’s going on in the end markets? Thanks.

Jeff Gardner

Management

Yes. In our business, as you look at those two businesses, OEM, which tends to be larger customers with bigger balance sheets more in a better position to handle the uncertainty related to the pandemic. On the MRM side, a lot of the softness with some of our regional TSPs, who, in my mind, are understandably cautious, cautious, cautious, as they kind of navigate through the pandemic and manage their balance sheets. And so we’re working very closely with them. These customers still need to do their 4G conversions. We really are trying to help them get through this time. And I think that – we’ll see that improve over time, but I think you’ll still see some softness in the next quarter in that particular group.

Jerry Revich

Analyst

Okay. And then in terms of the LoJack turnaround, Jeff, you had referenced that I believe you had seven dealers have signed on to the Telematics offering, which is a better call solution for you folks. Can you just put them into context for us what anything of that transition are we in seven out of how many dealers? And what’s the roadmap in terms of from getting the signups to seeing the improved operating performance?

Jeff Gardner

Management

Yes. So first of all, I’m very proud of what the LoJack U.S. team did. They bounced back after a very tough quarter. Their sequential growth in just product revenue was quite good. So that was nice to see a nice recovery. Like other parts of our business, we had more access. In terms of Telematics conversion, it’s early innings, Jerry. The team – very pleased the fact that we got – we were able to do our installation that seven dealers of our Telematics products across the country, which is really solid. But that’s – there’s still much more potential there. And with some of our biggest dealers, although, we have access to the dealerships now. When you’re doing something of this magnitude, you need that access to the executive team. So we’ve had a number of meetings, most recently with our largest partner in that category. So I think the team is doing a great job. They’re very focused there, but it’s very early days there. And I expect that Telematics to continue to accelerate throughout the year.

Jerry Revich

Analyst

And in terms of just for context, how significant are the seven dealers transition? Is this the first inning of their transition, Jeff? Or is that a meaningful number relative to a dealer count?

Jeff Gardner

Management

It’s really the first inning, I think is fair. I mean, it was – there’s a lot of work that goes into these conversions. So, I’m pleased to get those done. But we really want to start tapping some of our top five dealers, that’s where it’s going to really make a difference and you’ll see that, that happen in the coming quarters.

Jerry Revich

Analyst

Okay, terrific. I appreciate the discussion. Thanks.

Jeff Gardner

Management

Thanks, Jerry.

Operator

Operator

The next question is from Scott Searle with ROTH Capital. Your line is open.

Scott Searle

Analyst

Hey, good afternoon. Thanks for taking my questions. Hey, a couple of clarifications and some cleanup questions. First off, on the $1.4 million charge to COGS, I just want to clarify, is that product or is that in service? It sounds like it related in incremental services cost, but it wasn’t clear to me if that was going through your product channel?

Kurt Binder

Management

It’s been recorded as a product called charge, probably equivalent to sort of a product warranty charge that’s going through cost of goods sold. We recorded 100% of that in this quarter.

Scott Searle

Analyst

Gotcha. Perfect. On the OpEx front, just kind of looking at normalized non-GAAP OpEx, it looks like it was up a little bit sequentially Is this the level we should be operating off of going forward? Or there’s some one-time elements in there that were not broken out in the release?

Kurt Binder

Management

Yes. The only one-time of significance – and Jeff had alluded to that earlier was some of these relocation – executive relocation costs. Outside of that, we have in the back of the earnings announcement, a reconciliation of the one-time cost that we typically break out for non-GAAP purposes. But I think that what you’re seeing, at least from – and I think I referenced this in my original comments was our overall OpEx as a percent of revenue is fairly stable right now. And obviously, we’re going to work to try to improve that. And of course, we’ll make investments in areas like sales and marketing and R&D as we see the revenue start to tick up and we see light coming for the end of this pandemic. But I would suggest right now that the OpEx in aggregate as a percent of revenue is probably where you can expect at least going into the next quarter.

Scott Searle

Analyst

Gotcha. And to quickly follow-up on Mike’s earlier question. In Caterpillar, the mix of business sounds like you’re getting some upgrades as well from 3G to 4G, as well as new sales. I was wondering, can you help us understand what the mix is there in terms of what are retrofits and upgrades for existing customers versus what are you seeing in terms of new heavy equipment vehicles going out the door?

Jeff Gardner

Management

Well, a lot of our current business, a good percentage of it is relating to the upgrade cycle is to move some of their 3G fleets to 4G. So, I don’t have the precise percentage, but it’s a significant amount of the volume and driving some of the increases that we talked about sequentially.

Scott Searle

Analyst

Gotcha. And just last two, if I could. MRM, it sounds like continues to be headwinds on that front. I was wondering if you could provide a little bit of color in terms of what the linearity looked like in the quarter. And lastly, LoJack U.S., it’s nice to see some U.S. dealers kind of coming on Board. Is there a target, as you look at 12 months or 24 months? Of what percentage of the dealerships or – you would expect or hope to have converted? Thanks.

Jeff Gardner

Management

Yes, I’ll let Kurt answer the first question on MRM linearity, and then I’ll take the LoJack question after that.

Kurt Binder

Management

Yes. Scott, that’s a great question, because we’ve been looking at that very closely. If you go back and we did some analysis over the last three quarters here with the impact of the pandemic. We’ve seen that business – the MRM business running somewhere between $23 million to $25 million on a quarterly run rate. If you go back past those three quarters, probably seven quarters, eight quarters back, we were more averaging in their area of, say, $33 million to $35 million per quarter. So we’re down quite a bit off of what we would consider to be our normal cadence. And so what we’ve done there, as we’ve mentioned last quarter and this quarter is, we’ve doubled down in terms of keeping our headcount stable. We believe that the growth will come. All of the customers that we’re actively engaged with have been communicating to us that they are absolutely committed to making the 3G to 4G conversion. We haven’t really lost any customers. So, our expectation is, as we go through the balance of this fiscal year and into the early part of next fiscal year, that will start to see the uptick in demand from 4G, and we’ll get back to that, say, $33 million to $35 million quarterly run rate. Do you want to touch on? And, Scott, your last question on LoJack?

Jeff Gardner

Management

Yes. The LoJack expectation is that, we’re going to make a major shift this year to Telematics. It’s really what we’re leading in every one of our discussions with our customers. The seven dealers that I referenced in my script is just the beginning. For this year to be successful, we’re targeting to shift the majority of our top 10 dealers to a Telematics solution. It’s a much better value add for the customer, provides a lot of benefit to the dealers, and allows us to reach all customers across the nation. So there’s a lot of upside there. And as you know, we’re really interested in moving that business more to a recurring revenue model.

Scott Searle

Analyst

Great. Thanks so much, guys.

Jeff Gardner

Management

You’re welcome.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our next question is from Paul Coster with JPMorgan. Your line is open.

Paul Coster

Analyst

Yes. Thanks for taking my questions. First off, the backlog that you had in the Telematics segment, is that now cleared? Or are you carrying any over into the next quarter?

Kurt Binder

Management

Yes, Paul. So at this stage, we’ve pretty much cleared the backlog. And really, the backlog was in two locations. One was with the K-12 municipality fleet services; we probably had close to $2 million to $2.5 million of backlog that we couldn’t fulfill, because there was no access to the school districts. And then in addition to that, within the LoJack business and not having access to the dealership network, we probably had another $0.5 million to $1 million of backlog. We were pleased with the performance of our installation team over the quarter, and they were absolutely effective at clearing that backlog.

Paul Coster

Analyst

Got it. Now I’ll jump around a bit if you don’t mind. On the SaaS side, you said, you’re onboarding new logos. Is there a trend there in terms of the size of the customers you’re onboarding a number of subscribers?

Kurt Binder

Management

Yes. I mean, it’s – there’s quite a bit of diversity in terms of the size of the school districts, a lot of these are school districts in terms of the new logo. So yes, some can be as big as 1,500 vehicles, the average probably in the – more in the 100 range. So they’re good solid. Yes, as you know, that business has very strong ARPU, Paul, and good long-term contracts. And we’ve got a very good solution that’s very easy for customers to understand. So, as I said earlier, we’re pretty bullish about that space. I love our product. We’ve got a great bunch of engineers developing, making that product better everyday. So we’re not sitting on our laurels taking resting on our leadership position. We’re trying to get even stronger in that space.

Paul Coster

Analyst

Got it. Jeff, any credit or term issues you’ve detected in the context of the slowdown and impacts on some verticals?

Jeff Gardner

Management

Not too much. I mean, the biggest impact has been just a slowdown that – in the MRM that we’ve talked about. We’ve been really trying to use this time to stay very, very focused on our customers and to make sure we’re very proactive if there are any issues with any one of our customers. So, outside of that not really.

Kurt Binder

Management

Well, the other thing I would highlight is that, I think we mentioned in the regional comments around the vehicle finance business. As you know, we communicated last quarter that our position that we were going to start to transition out of that. And so we are starting to see and we’ll continue to see the churn in subscribers in that over the next several quarters.

Paul Coster

Analyst

Got it. Okay, my last question, Jeff, is a little bit sort of out there. But I’m sure like everyone, you’re seeing this massive amount of innovation in the commercial vehicle space with what looked like a slew of new electric vehicles, primarily coming to market in about two years from now, I’d say that seems to be the surge in picking off specific niches, many of the business models assume some kind of relationship with the end customer rather than just a straightforward style. And I’m just wondering, is this an opportunity? Are you seeing design-in opportunities coming your way? I mean, to what extent, there’s an opportunity or a threat?

Jeff Gardner

Management

Yes. I think it’s going to be a big opportunity. It’s early days for that. So, in terms of the opportunity for near-term, but I mean, the information that is needed by the customer and fleet manager as it relates to electric vehicles is slightly different, but not much if it’s the same. And so our engineering team is trying to stay ahead of that and work on a solution. So that when that market gets traction, we’ll be a player there. As you know, our business is tracking, monitoring, recovering mobile assets, whether they’re powered by a motor or by the electric battery.

Paul Coster

Analyst

I’m sure. Okay. All right. Thanks so much.

Jeff Gardner

Management

Thank you.

Kurt Binder

Management

Yes.

Operator

Operator

This concludes the Q&A period. I’ll now turn it back over to Jeff Gardner for any closing remarks.

Jeff Gardner

Management

Great. Thank you. Thank you all for joining us on the call today and for your continued interest in CalAmp. On a final note, for those of you who would like to schedule an introductory call or an update meeting with us, please contact the Shelton Group. I look forward to discussing our continued progress during our fiscal third quarter call scheduled for late December just prior to Christmas. Operator, you may now disconnect the call.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today’s call. Thank you for your participation and you may now disconnect.