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BlueLinx Holdings Inc. (BXC)

Q2 2025 Earnings Call· Wed, Jul 30, 2025

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Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by, and welcome to the BlueLinx Holdings Second Quarter 2025 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] Today's call is being recorded. We will begin with opening remarks and introductions. At this time, I would like to turn the conference over to your host, Investor Relations Officer, Tom Morabito.

Thomas C. Morabito

Analyst

Thank you, operator, and welcome to the BlueLinx second quarter 2025 earnings call. Joining me on today's call is Shyam Reddy, our Chief Executive Officer; and Kelly Wall, our Chief Financial Officer and Treasurer. At the end of today's prepared remarks, we will take questions. Our second quarter news release and Form 10-Q were issued yesterday after the close of the market, along with our webcast presentation, and these items are available in the Investors section of our website, bluelinxco.com. We encourage you to follow along with the detailed information on the slides during the webcast. Today's discussion contains forward-looking statements. Actual results may differ significantly from those forward-looking statements due to various risks and uncertainties, including the risks described in our most recent SEC filings. Today's presentation includes certain non-GAAP and adjusted financial measures that we believe provide helpful context for investors evaluating our business. Reconciliations to the closest GAAP financial measures can be found in the appendix of our presentation. Now I'll turn it over to Shyam.

Shyam K. Reddy

Analyst

Thanks, Tom, and good morning, everyone. I'm pleased to report that we continue to execute successfully on our product and channel strategies to gain market share. Our gross margins for specialty and structural products are solid and our net sales and volumes are higher for both product categories despite soft or otherwise challenging market conditions. We remain focused on creating demand for our products via multifamily initiatives, builder pull-through efforts and national account support to drive growth. As a result, we experienced another quarter of share gains. Demand creation strengthens our value proposition to both customers and suppliers, which puts us in a better position to win business and convince our suppliers to give us new geographic territories to expand their SKU assortment with us and to enable us to disrupt dual distribution via our demand creation efforts. We believe that our strategy, when coupled with our strong balance sheet, positions us well for better-than-market success when the housing market recovers. We also returned capital to shareholders by repurchasing $20 million of shares in Q2. In addition, our Board of Directors approved a new $50 million share repurchase authorization, bringing the total current availability to $61.5 million. This clearly demonstrates our commitment to returning capital to our shareholders and our continued confidence in the company's long-term growth strategy. While market-driven price deflation has improved over the past year, it continues to reduce the profitability of the business, especially in certain product categories. We're offsetting this impact, however, with volume growth in engineered wood products, millwork, lumber and panels in several key strategic channels as our channel and product strategies continue to bear fruit. With a disciplined focus on growing our 5 key specialty product categories: engineered wood, siding, millwork, industrial and outdoor living products across all of our customer segments,…

Christopher Kelly Wall

Analyst

Thanks, Shyam, and good morning, everyone. Let's first go through the consolidated highlights for the quarter. Overall, both our specialty and structural products businesses delivered solid volume growth despite the challenging macro environment. Specialty products gross margins were solid and structural products gross margins were positively impacted by higher lumber prices, partially offset by lower panel prices. As Shyam mentioned, price deflation had a negative impact on both businesses. Net sales were $780 million, up 2% year-over-year. Total gross profit was $120 million and gross margin was 15.3%, down 60 basis points from the prior period. SG&A was $95 million, up $5.8 million from last year's second quarter. This increase was mainly due to increased sales and logistics expenses driven by higher product volumes, our strategy to grow sales in the multifamily channel and expenses associated with our digital transformation initiative. Net income was $4.3 million or $0.54 per share and adjusted net income was $5.6 million or $0.70 per share. Tax expense for the second quarter was $2.3 million or 35%. For the third quarter, we anticipate our tax rate to be approximately 22%. Adjusted EBITDA was $26.8 million or 3.4% of net sales. Turning now to second quarter results for specialty products. Net sales were $543 million, up 1% year-over-year. This slight increase was driven by volume increases in engineered wood and millwork, offset by price declines in both categories. As Shyam mentioned, given current market conditions, we are optimistic that specialty pricing volatility will subside in the coming quarters. Gross profit from specialty product sales were $100 million, down 4% year-over-year. Specialty gross margin was 18.5%, down 80 basis points from last year's 19.3%, primarily due to price deflation. Through the first 4 weeks of Q3, specialty product gross margin was in the range of 17% to…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Your first question comes from the line of Jeffrey Stevenson with Loop Capital.

Jeffrey Patrick Stevenson

Analyst

Nice quarter in a challenging demand environment. So I just wondered, first, how specialty volumes trended throughout the quarter given the slower-than-expected builder spring selling season this year? And then, Shyam, you mentioned in your prepared remarks that EWP and millwork saw a healthy volume growth during the quarter. But I was hoping that you could comment on other key specialty product categories as well.

Shyam K. Reddy

Analyst

Sure. Thanks for the question, Jeff. Good to hear from you. Yes. So basically, I want to emphasize our strategy, right? I mean if you look at housing starts on a year-over-year basis, they're down 10%, right? And so, for us, what that means is our strategy to create demand via our multifamily and builder pull-through efforts is working. And we're leaning in with EWP, millwork, and then of course, a couple of the structural product categories to drive that growth. And more importantly, we're doing it to support our customers and our suppliers in terms of helping them achieve their growth objectives. So that's -- so in what is otherwise a soft market, generally speaking due to macroeconomic headwinds and what's otherwise a really soft summer, we've been able to control the narrative with our very intentional demand creation efforts. And that's what's causing us to mute the downside of these headwinds. So that -- so again, because it's part of the strategy, not tied to the traditional way of doing business, we sort of worked the multifamily and builder pull-through angle through the quarter. And that's how we posted those volumes. We're gaining share in an otherwise down market.

Jeffrey Patrick Stevenson

Analyst

Great. And I know you touched on it, but obviously, very impressive multifamily growth of 30% year-to-date. I mean I just wondered if you could provide more color on the primary drivers of the strong share gains you're seeing? And then how long a runway you have for continued share gains when multifamily starts improve to more normalized levels in the coming years?

Shyam K. Reddy

Analyst

Sure. So in my remarks, I talked about our early investments in multifamily providing a seasonal catalyst as multifamily starts were up, although -- while single-family starts were down. So that -- those early investments paid off at the right time, which means when the market does recover, I think we'll have an even bigger head start on others. So what -- so how we're doing that is we've made investments, both OpEx and CapEx to really support the complexity of multifamily projects. And we're working hand-in-hand with key customers to win business and leverage our investments to support them because they may not otherwise -- it may not otherwise make sense for them to make the investment. So that's where we provide that value add. So by leveraging our team and the various services we offer with respect to multifamily, and of course, the project management associated with delivering into those multifamily projects, whether it be through just-in-time delivery and warehousing on top of the equipment to deliver in what can otherwise be a challenging delivery in an urban environment has really helped us win business. We're also very creative in terms of how we structure our programs so that it's a win-win for both our suppliers, ourselves and our customers. So our aperture is a lot wider than I think others may be in order to drive profitable sales growth for ourselves as well as our customers. And then last but not least, as it relates to the relationships or where the programs may reside, if our customer wants to own the program and we're behind the scenes, we're absolutely supportive of that. And as it relates -- and in some cases, there will be maybe multiple programs between us and the ultimate builder and the customer with the customer generating the sales. So that's a long-winded way of saying we are very creative and thoughtful and collaborative with our customers to drive multifamily growth. And that's the key I want to stick is we are driving demand and leveraging our investments for the benefit of our customers and suppliers to help them grow their respective businesses.

Jeffrey Patrick Stevenson

Analyst

Great. It's super helpful. And one last question. It seems like the Portland greenfield has been a big success given you're doubling your warehouse space. And I wondered if that speeds up the timeline for future greenfields to find attractive sites, especially in key Western markets moving forward?

Shyam K. Reddy

Analyst

Sure. So I would say, again, as I've said before, the constraint for us from a greenfield standpoint is not our intestinal fortitude to do them. It's finding the right real estate, right? So what I will say is the Portland greenfield and the success we're achieving accelerates our ability to have successful greenfields in the future just by taking those learnings and applying them to future greenfield opportunities. But we have an active greenfield market pipeline. We are working with real estate professionals in order to identify sites and exploring ways to accelerate it. I mean we are absolutely committed to opening up more greenfields and looking forward to sharing more news in the future.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Greg Palm with Craig-Hallum Capital Group.

Gregory William Palm

Analyst · Craig-Hallum Capital Group.

Maybe just starting with maybe a backdrop. Just curious if anything has changed more recently? Any green shoots emerging, just broader industry conditions? Would be curious to get your thoughts to start.

Shyam K. Reddy

Analyst · Craig-Hallum Capital Group.

So nothing. I think what we're hearing is, obviously, more -- as there's more and more certainty with respect to the tariff environment, that could potentially unlock some pent-up demand regardless of whether or not people like the tariffs in and of themselves. It's just certainty will have a positive impact on consumer confidence on unlocking investments and some other things. But for the most part, there's really nothing out there other than multifamily, which I talked about in my remarks and our demand creation efforts with builder pull-through multifamily really driving year-over-year growth for us. But nothing unique per se that's not otherwise public.

Gregory William Palm

Analyst · Craig-Hallum Capital Group.

And I think like thinking back to last call, it seemed like competition was a bigger theme. I think maybe you alluded to it a few times today. But just curious, like what kind of behavioral changes are you seeing from some of your peers? Any changes relative to last quarter?

Shyam K. Reddy

Analyst · Craig-Hallum Capital Group.

It's more of the same theme. It is very competitive out there, no doubt. But we are trying to control the narrative by, again, driving demand through those investments we've made in new channel focus areas. But we are having to compete harder to not only keep business, but also win business. But I think our creative approach is allowing us to do so in a positive, constructive way, but it is still competitive out there.

Gregory William Palm

Analyst · Craig-Hallum Capital Group.

Okay. And then lastly, on multifamily, you talked about I think the gross margin, some of the working capital differences. Can you just maybe dig into that a little bit more? I'm just sort of curious just in terms of the mix difference, the working capital differences. And then overall, what are the working capital kind of requirements or expectations in the second half company-wide?

Shyam K. Reddy

Analyst · Craig-Hallum Capital Group.

Yes. I'll let Kelly take the second part of your question. The first is when you're doing a multifamily project, and it requires a fair amount of grit and endurance, right, because these are long projects. Usually, the sales happen early in the cycle and then you drive project management in supporting your customers from a delivery standpoint as well as the developers. So in some cases, what will happen is we will win the project, we'll take on the inventory and then we've got to stage the inventory for development -- during development of the project. And sometimes that inventory is held longer than our normal inventory for regular wave business. And so -- but it's been priced. It's been committed. It's just being held longer, which obviously impacts our internal return on working capital metrics. But at the end of the day, it's a strong sale. It supports our strategy. It just requires more endurance as it relates to the impact, right? And the benefit through the P&L rolling through the P&L. But again, that's what -- that's part of the value add that we're providing that is enabling us to win business.

Christopher Kelly Wall

Analyst · Craig-Hallum Capital Group.

And on the working capital front, so as we ended Q2, we were a bit heavy on inventory and we had some unusual activity around accounts payable. I want to be there specifically is that we did end Q1 with days outstanding much higher than what's typical for us. So that normalized in Q2, which is why you're seeing that use of cash attributed to the change in accounts payable in the second quarter. But as we think about the rest of the year, we're very focused on getting our inventory levels back in line with the current demand environment. So we do think that, that's going to be a source of cash for us as we go through the rest of the year and would expect for kind of the other working capital terms to be consistent with prior years. All of that ultimately culminating in free cash flow for 2025 that we'd expect to be roughly similar to 2024.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Reuben Garner with The Benchmark Company.

Reuben Garner

Analyst · The Benchmark Company.

A couple on the sequential changes in gross margin that you saw from Q1 to Q2 and then what you're seeing so far in Q3. So first on the structural side. I was a little surprised, lumber, at least for the last few months has been climbing sequentially, I think both in the futures market and cash and correct me if that's wrong. But normally, in that environment, you guys get a little bit of a boost to gross margin. Is the panel pressure or the competitive environment or the mix of your business by customer something what's kind of leading to maybe a more normal or lower end of the range we've seen in the last few years in that segment?

Christopher Kelly Wall

Analyst · The Benchmark Company.

Yes. So on the structural side, specifically, Reuben, you're spot on, right? The combination of just competitive pressures with the lower demand environment, and we're all fighting to maintain or in our case, grow share. But then also, you mentioned panels, right? Pricing is down high-single-digits, almost 10%, relative to last year. So that's a big component of what's impacting that 8.2% margin that we posted for Q2. And then as we mentioned in our prepared remarks, we do expect for the full year to maintain kind of 7% to 8% gross profit margins for structural.

Reuben Garner

Analyst · The Benchmark Company.

Okay. And then on the specialty side, higher -- I think you said flat sequential volumes so far in the third quarter. I think the volumes were better in the second quarter than the first, but the gross margin is kind of drifting lower. Can you talk about that piece? How much of that is competitive versus mix within specialty driving that down? And kind of what's -- I guess, how low can that go before you start becoming willing to seed market share instead of kind of going after it?

Christopher Kelly Wall

Analyst · The Benchmark Company.

Yes. So we did kind of update that we were seeing 17% to 18% margins on the structural side in the first 4 weeks of -- I'm sorry, on specialty, excuse me, in the first 4 weeks. And we expect that the competitive pressure that we're seeing out there is going to continue to contribute to where we're seeing those levels. As Shyam mentioned, what's helped us maintain margin is our efforts to kind of pull demand into our customers, right? And so we're out there kind of driving that, bringing sales to customers, which -- and other value-added services that we're providing that help us hold on the margin. The other factor that we're looking at is that as we grow multifamily, the product mix is a bit different and that's impacting margin as well. But our view is that if we can continue to grow in that space and grow volumes in the multifamily, then we're willing to give up a little bit of margin there to capture the absolute growth in gross profit dollars.

Reuben Garner

Analyst · The Benchmark Company.

Got it. And last one for me on the M&A front. Any updates there and what you're seeing from potential sellers? Have valuations come in at all just given the kind of broader macro environment or are you still kind of at a disadvantage given where you're trading in the public domain and the private guys are looking for higher multiples than that?

Shyam K. Reddy

Analyst · The Benchmark Company.

Yes. I think that structural disadvantage will always will exist at least for now. But we do have an active pipeline and we are -- there are a number of factors that go into these evaluations, right, just in terms of our overall strategy, whether it be driving specialty growth, continuing to support the demand creation efforts we talked about. So there is an active pipeline. The bid-ask spreads have narrowed substantially since 2 years ago, let's say. And there's more -- we're seeing more deals or opportunities come through for us to look at than we were seeing 18 months to 24 months ago.

Operator

Operator

Your last question comes from the line of Kurt Yinger with D.A. Davidson.

Kurt Willem Yinger

Analyst

Just wanted to circle back on multifamily with a 2-parter. First, could you talk about kind of the mix versus the existing business from kind of a structural versus specialty kind of sales perspective? And then second, if I'm thinking about it correctly, and correct me if I'm wrong, but a big difference between the multifamily side and traditional, let's say, is the job site delivery component, which is also kind of something that the traditional dealer channel would do. And so I'm just curious whether there's been any friction with maybe legacy customers or how you're managing kind of that dynamic?

Shyam K. Reddy

Analyst

Sure. No, it's a great question. So just in terms of the multifamily, we're leading with some of our key brands, right? So EWP is a very significant product line that we're driving into the multifamily channel and we're able to be very competitive on that front. At the same time, siding is an important element in multifamily. And given our relationship with Allura, it provides us with a good opportunity to convert business from the larger brand in the fiber cement -- in the cement siding world to Allura, and that's worked really well. We're also -- we've even got examples of SmartSide supporting multifamily. So it's a wide assortment. And then, of course, selling full truckloads of structural lumber and panels and specialty panels is key to a multifamily job. So we've got a nice assortment of products that are going into the multifamily channel. The most important part of the win though is when you lead with one product, it can then open doors to additional products to sell into the project, which we're doing a fairly good job of early days. As it relates to job site delivery, job site delivery in the multifamily jobs, especially since we're working with our customers to do it. So it's not a lost sale and it's a project being done in collaboration with that customer, it's supported, right? And so multifamily within our space is an acceptable use of -- from a job site delivery standpoint. So for example, in Atlanta or in Manhattan or in some of these bigger markets, it might make sense for us to deliver on a Moffitt into an urban job site at 2 in the morning and offload the material because no one's there into a designated location. And of course, the customer is getting the benefit of the sale anyway. So it's just mapping out the logistics capability in order to make good on the project vis-a-vis the developer.

Christopher Kelly Wall

Analyst

Yes. And Kurt, I'd add. To answer your first part of your question, we do see a slightly higher mix of specialty -- sorry, structural, a higher mix of structural versus specialty into the multifamily, but we are leading, as Shyam mentioned, with our specialty product, just pulling through that structural product.

Kurt Willem Yinger

Analyst

Okay, okay. That's super helpful. And then maybe just going back to the structural side, you talked about kind of the staging of the order, right? You might win it at one point and delivery could be quite a bit in the future. Can you maybe just help us understand how those agreements or contracts are structured to where you kind of protect yourself from commodity volatility? I mean, if I were to think about a big run in lumber pricing, I think that could be a headwind. But just kind of help us understand how you mitigate that risk.

Shyam K. Reddy

Analyst

Yes. So we have a fair -- so as we've talked about in the past, we built a pretty good mousetrap for managing our structural wood products in large part because we have inventory on the ground that's consigned and we have cash on hand inventory. And through really good planning and the relationships we have with our ultimate customers, we're able to manage through that volatility pretty successfully. The issue is primarily one of, quite frankly, turn days on that committed inventory. So as the market matures and as we continue to really accelerate our growth with multifamily, we may evolve. We'll probably evolve the arrangements, while still making them a win-win for both our customers, our suppliers and ourselves. But so far, no issue yet.

Kurt Willem Yinger

Analyst

Okay, perfect. And then just last on specialty pricing. I guess if you were to kind of look at the mix of products and where pricing stands today, any thoughts on when we could kind of get back to flattish or potentially see that flip to a positive?

Shyam K. Reddy

Analyst

Yes. Honestly, I don't have a crystal ball. I will say the tariffs introduced some interesting dynamics, right? Because EWP, for example, over the last 24 months has experienced pricing pressure due to LVL coming out of Europe. And as the tariff regime crystallizes, that deflationary impact could cause a faster stabilization of pricing within EWP, for example. So I don't have a crystal ball. But again, as tariff uncertainty becomes more certain and that landscape crystallizes, I think we'll be on a path forward to greater stability.

Operator

Operator

That concludes our Q&A session. I will now turn the call back over to Tom for closing remarks.

Thomas C. Morabito

Analyst

Thanks, Bella. Thank you again for joining us today and we look forward to speaking with you in late October as we share our third quarter 2025 results.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, that concludes today's call. Thank you all for joining. You may now disconnect. Everyone, have a great day.