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Q1 2024 Earnings Call· Tue, May 14, 2024

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Operator

Operator

Greetings, and welcome to Broadwind’s First Quarter 2024 Results Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to your host, Mr. Tom Ciccone, Chief Financial Officer. Thank you. You may begin.

Tom Ciccone

Analyst

Good morning, and welcome to the Broadwind first quarter 2024 results conference call. Leading the call today is our CEO, Eric Blashford; and I’m Tom Ciccone, the company’s Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. We issued a press release before the market opened today, detailing our first quarter results. I would like to remind you that management’s commentary and responses to questions on today’s conference call may include forward-looking statements which, by their nature, are uncertain and outside of the company’s control. Although these forward-looking statements are based on management’s current expectations and beliefs, actual results may differ materially. For a discussion of some of the factors that could cause actual results to differ, please refer to the Risk Factors section of our latest annual and quarterly filings with the SEC. Additionally, please note that you can find reconciliations of the historical non-GAAP financial measures discussed during our call in the press release issued today. At the conclusion of our prepared remarks, we will open the line for questions. With that, I’ll turn the call over to Eric.

Eric Blashford

Analyst

Thanks, Tom. And welcome to those joining us today. Broadwind delivered solid Q1 results, highlighted by improved margin realization, higher net income, and increased adjusted EBITDA, even though revenue was down from the prior year quarter, offsetting a transitional pause in new wind tower demand. First quarter results benefited from a higher value sales mix, price discipline and targeted cost reduction actions to yield improvement in gross margin and EBITDA margin of 330 basis points and 270 basis points, respectively. This marks our fifth consecutive quarter of profitability despite lingering wind-related headwinds. We booked $29 million of orders in the first quarter, a decline as compared to the prior year period but up nearly 44% sequentially versus Q4 2023, continuing the favorable order trend across all divisions, which began in the second half of last year. Gearing orders increased sequentially across all markets, led by wind, mining and energy. We also continue to see strong activity levels from the natural gas turbine market serviced by our Industrial Solutions segment driven by global electricity demand growth and a shift away from coal-fired power around the world. At a commercial level, we continue to expand our product mix within higher margin adjacent markets. The release of the Broadwind clean fuels L70 low-flow PRS unit, the third model in this product family remains on track for the third quarter, and will include a version designed to accommodate RNG, or renewable natural gas. We’re expanding our portfolio of industrial fabrications to include new products and we’re seeing increased customer interest from the defense industry now that our ITAR certifications are complete for both the heavy fabrications and Gearing divisions. ITAR or International Traffic in Arms Regulations is the United States regulatory control program to restrict the export of defense and military related technologies to…

Tom Ciccone

Analyst

Thank you, Eric. Turning to Slide 5 for an overview of our first quarter performance. We delivered our fifth consecutive quarter of profitability during a period of softness within the onshore wind industry sector, highlighted by meaningful margin expansion resulting from a higher margin sales mix and targeted cost reductions. In Q1, we generated $4.2 million of EBITDA compared to $4.1 million in the prior year quarter. We generated net income of $1.5 million or $0.07 per diluted share in the first quarter compared to $0.8 million or $0.04 per diluted share in the prior year quarter. Turning to Slide 6 for a discussion of our Heavy Fabrications segment. Q1 orders of $11 million are down 45% versus the prior year period, primarily due to the reduced wind tower orders. Tower related orders continue to be limited as a result of the existing backlog that originated as part of a significant supply agreement for wind tower purchases entered into in Q4 2022. We did see an 18% increase in orders for our non-wind revenue streams, primarily related to our mining and industrial markets. First quarter revenues were $22 million, down $9.6 million versus the prior year quarter. We sold 78 tower sections versus 140 in the prior year quarter. This reduced level of tower sales versus the prior year is consistent with our previous commentary regarding the slowing of Abilene production late in Q4 in response to customer demand. During the first quarter, we recognized segment EBITDA of $3.1 million a decrease of $0.7 million versus the prior year period, primarily driven by the decrease in power sections sold. This was partially offset by a more profitable mix of products sold as well as some targeted cost reductions. Turning to Slide 7. Gearing orders slowed in Q1 versus the prior…

Eric Blashford

Analyst

Thanks, Tom. Now allow me to provide some thoughts as we enter Q2, beginning with our Heavy Fabrications segment. We believe domestic onshore wind activity is poised to accelerate meaningfully in the 2025, 2026 time frame, given current indications of interest from customers. Although a higher interest rate environment has impacted project economics for some developers, leading them to temporarily delay or defer the timing of their investments. In the interim, we’ve aligned our cost structure to reflect a period of lower production volumes at our tower facilities, while repurposing talent and available capacity toward non-wind demand across our diverse end markets. We remain highly constructive on the long-term economics of wind, particularly with a 10-year tax credit visibility afforded by the IRA. In our Gearing segment, average to broaden our sales mix into less cyclical markets continue, positioning us to realize a more balanced, stable revenue profile. We added another experienced commercial sales agent to our team to expand our penetration into new precision machining markets, with OEM customers in need of our unique five access capabilities for large, diverse non-gearing applications. Quoting activity is up more than 250% and we’re pleased that our commercial strategy is yielding increasing opportunities for diverse growth. In Industrial Solutions, we are seeing significant signs of momentum in the gas turbine industry both in the demand for new products and on the services aftermarket side. Our quote activity in this sector is up over 40% from the prior year. As a result, we are continuing to invest in both additional personnel and equipment to manage the growth that we are experiencing and to be responsive to the time-sensitive needs of our customers in this sector. Concurrently, we are continuing our work with our key partners in both the wind repowering and solar markets as we focus our efforts on growing in these key energy transition markets. In summary, I am pleased with the strong operational performance from our team this quarter as we continue to demonstrate strong execution on our strategic priorities. We’ve pivoted our cost structure during a transitional period for domestic onshore wind demand, while retaining and redeploying our highly skilled workforce. We continue to build a firm foundation for steady, profitable growth, serving the energy transition in other key markets and look forward to capitalizing on improved demand in the years ahead. With that said, I’ll turn the call over to the moderator for the Q&A session.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Eric Stine with Craig-Hallum. Please proceed with your question.

Eric Stine

Analyst

Hey, Eric, hey, Tom. Good morning. So maybe can we just start with the changed terms with new customer? It sounds like that that will weigh on working capital here, it did in first quarter and will for the foreseeable future. Just curious, is that something that is kind of a one-off with this specific customer? Or is this something that is more indicative of maybe working capital trends going forward?

Tom Ciccone

Analyst

I would say it’s more specific to this particular customer. It happens to be a major customer. So it’s rather significant to us. So yes, we did – our operating working capital increased about $5 million in Q1, and a lot of that was related to our deposit balance, as you can see from looking at our balance sheet. We do anticipate that trend to continue from a deposit perspective as well as receivables should increase as well during the year.

Eric Stine

Analyst

Got it. I mean anything that you can share in terms of what changed? I mean, does this have to do with whether it’s conditions of the relationship between the two parties or just the nature of business between the two parties? Anything there would be helpful.

Tom Ciccone

Analyst

I would think the latter, just nothing specific that we can point to just the nature of the business between the two parties, I think.

Eric Stine

Analyst

Okay.

Eric Blashford

Analyst

Yes, what I would say, Eric, is it’s actually returning to terms that were in place several years ago. So it’s a return to normal terms.

Eric Stine

Analyst

Okay. All right. And then maybe just on the wind side, and obviously, it’s pretty – it’s a challenging environment right now, but it sounds like you’re getting a little more optimistic. Should we take that to mean that orders? I mean, potentially, you think you could start to see an order pickup in late 2024 – so it really – I mean, obviously would not impact the results of this fiscal year. But that’s how we should take your commentary?

Eric Blashford

Analyst

Yes, I think so. I think our customers believe and as do we that the industry – the wind power industry onshore has hit a trough, and we’re kind of heading up the other direction. In that trough, I would use the term cautiously optimistic about late 2024 into 2025 and more bullish into 2026. So I would say, yes, order activity should increase late 2024 into 2025 and through 2025 and 2026.

Eric Stine

Analyst

Got it. And any – or maybe I know you’ve aligned the cost, but you’ve also refocused some of the capacity in Abilene to other end markets. Maybe just delve into that topic a little bit. And is there a time where you see and maybe it is late 2024, when you start to see orders from other OEMs other than GE and the big one that you have?

Eric Blashford

Analyst

Yes. I would say there is interest by all four OEMs, most directly three of the four major OEMs in capacity in that Abilene plant. We are producing our PRS systems. Those are the pressure reducing systems in Abilene and in Manitowoc. They really don’t interfere with wind tower production, but we do transfer labor in between. So I would say that the chance for us to have multiple OEMs in that factory in 2025 and through 2026 is certainly possible. There is interest, but there’s also interest in our northern plant as well. As I mentioned before, it’s less aggressive or less robust than the Texas region where we have the Abilene plant, but interest is increasing in our northern plant as well. Both in terms of new towers, but especially in terms of repowering activity, which we produce in our northern plant.

Eric Stine

Analyst

Got it. That is good to hear. And then lastly, just last quarter, this quarter as well talking about aerospace and defense and some key certifications that you’ve received. I mean how do you think about this business, if you look at 2025 or 2026. Is that when you start to see this become a more meaningful part of the business? Or should we think about it it’s further out than that?

Eric Blashford

Analyst

I would say 2025 and 2026, definitely, especially in gearing. And what these certifications do for us is we’ve had inquiries from defense and aerospace customers before but sometimes their terms and conditions require a certification or the ITAR certification, which is defense, or the AS9100, which is aerospace. And we’ve had to no bid on some of those opportunities. But we wanted to get inside that fence, if you will, and set the perimeter, and now with ITAR, we are getting more activity inquiries from the defense industry in both heavy fabrications and gearing. In the AS9100, the customers were advertising to the customers that we should have that by Q4, and that’s really increased activity in gearing from the aerospace standpoint. So I’d say I would definitely expect activity in 2025 – to the actual order and revenue activity in 2025, increasing through 2026 and beyond.

Eric Stine

Analyst

Okay. Thank you.

Eric Blashford

Analyst

Thanks, Eric.

Tom Ciccone

Analyst

Thanks, Eric.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Justin Clare with Roth MKM. Please proceed with your question.

Justin Clare

Analyst · Roth MKM. Please proceed with your question.

Good morning.

Eric Blashford

Analyst · Roth MKM. Please proceed with your question.

Good morning, Justin.

Justin Clare

Analyst · Roth MKM. Please proceed with your question.

Good morning. Just wanted to just go back to wind demand. It sounds like you could potentially see a pickup in orders towards the end of this year. Was wondering if you do see that pick up, would you expect to be booking for orders to be delivered in 2025? Or is it more likely into 2026 at that point? Just based on what you’re hearing from your customers, what might we expect here? And then based on what you’re seeing now, what’s the potential to increase your wind tower manufacturing utilization in 2025 relative to 2024?

Eric Blashford

Analyst · Roth MKM. Please proceed with your question.

The answer, I think, is yes and yes. I have a lot of confidence that we will see capacity utilization in 2025 increase, maybe not for full capacity in the Abilene plant, at the Manitowoc plant but certainly beyond what we’re producing at now. So the orders that we expect to start getting towards the end of 2024 and into 2025 will be produced in 2025 and into 2026. As I mentioned earlier, the aftermarket or the repowering sector, which we’re getting bigger into especially in Manitowoc, those orders are more quick turn, so those orders will come in 2024 and be delivered in – throughout 2025. Towers have a little bit longer lead time, Eric, but I do believe – I’m sorry, Justin. But I do believe we’ll see both increased activity in 2025 through 2026.

Justin Clare

Analyst · Roth MKM. Please proceed with your question.

Got it. Okay. Great. And then on Industrial Solutions, it looks like the EBITDA margin was 24% in Q1. So pretty meaningful improvements from what we’ve seen historically. I was wondering if you could just speak to what drove the improvement a bit more. Was this a function of mix in the quarter or the cost reduction efforts that you are undergoing here? And just trying to think through, how should that trend going forward? Is it a sustainable improvement in the margin that we should be anticipating for that segment of your business?

Tom Ciccone

Analyst · Roth MKM. Please proceed with your question.

I think you’ll have some sustainability of that margin profile, but I think Q1 was especially a favorable margin profile just because of the sales mix that they experienced. So I wouldn’t point to that segment from a cost-cutting perspective by any means. But I think a lot of it had to do with the very favorable mix of product that they sold as well as the operating leverage that they’ve had. So $8 million of revenue for that segment is the highest that we’ve seen out of them. So it really helped – their bottom line really help their margin to get as much out of that facility that they did.

Justin Clare

Analyst · Roth MKM. Please proceed with your question.

Okay, got it. And then just on the – so Abilene just increased tariffs with the Section 301. So it looks like the tariff rate on steel increasing to 25% this year from 0% to 7.5%. So just wondering how this might impact your business. I believe you primarily source steel domestically, though we could see a potential price increase. So just if you could speak to any potential impact on your business here?

Eric Blashford

Analyst · Roth MKM. Please proceed with your question.

Well, I think, Justin, there’s – we don’t anticipate significant impact on the business, certainly in, what I would call, the short-term to maybe the midterm, we do source virtually all of our tower steel from domestic sources. And certainly, the vast majority of our steel for heavy fabrications from domestic sources. So it could have an impact, but I don’t expect it to have a major impact in the short-term.

Justin Clare

Analyst · Roth MKM. Please proceed with your question.

Okay. And the increase in the price would be a pass through for you, I believe, is that right?

Eric Blashford

Analyst · Roth MKM. Please proceed with your question.

Yes, it would be a pass through. I do believe there’s available capacity of the steel – of the plate plants that produce for wind turbine, OEMs in the United States and wind power producers like Broadwind. So I think you’d have to fill that capacity before you’d have any real price pressure.

Justin Clare

Analyst · Roth MKM. Please proceed with your question.

Okay, got you. Thank you.

Eric Blashford

Analyst · Roth MKM. Please proceed with your question.

Thanks Justin.

Tom Ciccone

Analyst · Roth MKM. Please proceed with your question.

Thanks Justin.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is from Martin Malloy with Johnson Rice. Please proceed with your question.

Martin Malloy

Analyst

Thank you for taking my questions. For the first quarter, was there any impact from the advanced manufacturing tax credit on the EBITDA for the heavy fabrication segment?

Tom Ciccone

Analyst

Yes. Not unlike Q1 of last year, the AMP credit existed in both quarters. So outside of the volume impact, we were down approximately 50% in terms of the number of sections that we sold. But the margin profile that was consistent between the two quarters.

Martin Malloy

Analyst

Okay. Okay. I appreciate that. And then just in terms of the potential acquisition front. And you’ve got the NOLs, your balance sheet is strong. Can you maybe talk about what you’re seeing there in terms of the flow of potential opportunities?

Eric Blashford

Analyst

Yes. Thanks, Marty. We are seeing, we put that on pause a little bit for the last quarter of last year as we work through these cost reductions to make sure we had good cash generation. We’re building up a war chest. We now feel like we’re certainly there or nearly there. So I’m beginning to entertain more aggressively opportunities in M&A, primarily in precision manufacturing, precision machining which is what we do in most of our plants, our gearing plant on our heavy fabrications plants. So the opportunity flow is increasing and we’re able to, I think, more seriously address those as they come in.

Martin Malloy

Analyst

Okay. Great, thank you very much. I’ll turn it back.

Eric Blashford

Analyst

Thanks Marty.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Amit Dayal with H.C. Wainwright. Please proceed with your question.

Amit Dayal

Analyst · H.C. Wainwright. Please proceed with your question.

Thank you. Good morning, everyone.

Eric Blashford

Analyst · H.C. Wainwright. Please proceed with your question.

Hi, Amit.

Amit Dayal

Analyst · H.C. Wainwright. Please proceed with your question.

Hey, just sticking with the wind, Eric, side of the story. Is there any particular catalyst for the wind business to get going again that we should be sort of monitoring? Or is this just going to be just general development across the industry that may take place later this year or early next year?

Eric Blashford

Analyst · H.C. Wainwright. Please proceed with your question.

Well, I think is as I look at it, there are three things. There’s interest rates, inflation and interconnection. And I think inflation has kind of been capped or at least it’s under control. Interest rates I follow the Fed like the rest of us do. And it feels like that they’re going to hold maybe a slight reduction. So I think that is offering some stability. And then that stability is allowing some developers to pencil in some projects that maybe weren’t fully profitable or provided enough return for them with a higher interest rate environment. But lastly is the interconnection piece. That’s the third eye. And even just last – or Monday night in the Wall Street Journal, there was an article about Washington trying to break power grid, log jams and that’s the infrastructure – that’s the whole infrastructure play that I mentioned earlier. So what’s happened recently, again, I draw your attention to the Monday, Wall Street Journal, FERC, which is the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission finalized a couple of new rules. And a couple of new rules really are intended to increase permitting opportunities for critical projects in areas lacking transmission capacity and also, they require utility companies to look to a multi-decade trend. What does that mean? What that means is as renewable projects are coming online in one geographical region versus another, there’s always this risk of a weather-related problem, but I think what this is intended to do is to encourage interconnections to be easier for these particular operators so they can more easily invest in renewable projects without fear of any disruption. So that’s kind of a long-winded answer, but what I’m meaning to say is I think the federal government understands that there are some headwinds with regard to renewable projects in the way of permitting and they’re trying to break down those headwinds, break down those barriers.

Amit Dayal

Analyst · H.C. Wainwright. Please proceed with your question.

Thank you for that. That’s very helpful. And then on the revenue diversification front, it looks like you guys are making good progress over there. Is there room to grow within the existing non-wind customers or are you looking to sort of continue expanding the roster of clients. I know you mentioned the aerospace opportunity in your comments earlier. Just trying to see how that diversification effort? What are the drivers that will lead to more balanced revenues?

Eric Blashford

Analyst · H.C. Wainwright. Please proceed with your question.

As I’ve mentioned before, in the northern plant, because we’re not full up with tower capacity there, we have available capacity to deploy to these other diverse markets, such a material handling as I mentioned earlier, defense infrastructure. Within the Gearing segment, we’ve made some nice investments in some 5x’s machinery that can handle very precise machining for very large – relatively large products. And we do have available capacity. As an example, some of those machines are operating at maybe 30% to 40% capacity now. That’s intentional because we invested in additional capacity in preparation for these new markets. So I don’t think you need to look for Broadwind and to expand our brick-and-mortar footprint to be able to access these markets. It’s more increased utilization for our available and our newly invested assets.

Amit Dayal

Analyst · H.C. Wainwright. Please proceed with your question.

Okay. Understood. Yes. That’s all I have, guys. I’ll take my other questions offline. Thank you so much.

Eric Blashford

Analyst · H.C. Wainwright. Please proceed with your question.

Thank you.

Tom Ciccone

Analyst · H.C. Wainwright. Please proceed with your question.

Thanks.

Operator

Operator

We have reached the end of the question-and-answer session. I would now like to turn the call back over to Eric Blashford for closing comments.

Eric Blashford

Analyst

Yes. Thank you, everyone, for your interest and your attention. We’re pleased with our results in Q1 and look forward to coming back to you after Q2 to present our results then. Thank you, everyone.

Operator

Operator

This concludes today’s conference. You may disconnect your lines at this time, and we thank you for your participation.