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Babcock & Wilcox Enterprises, Inc. (BW)

Q2 2022 Earnings Call· Mon, Aug 8, 2022

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Operator

Operator

Good afternoon. Thank you for attending Babcock & Wilcox Second Quarter 2022 Earnings Call. My name is Matt and I will be your moderator for today’s call. All lines will be muted during the presentation portion of the call and opportunities for question-and-answer at the end. I would now like to pass the conference over to our host Sharyn Brooks, with Babcock & Wilcox. Sharyn please go ahead.

Sharyn Brooks

Management

Thank you Matt and thanks everyone for joining us on Babcock & Wilcox Enterprises second quarter 2022 earnings conference call. I’m Sharyn Brooks, Director of Communications. Joining the call today are Kenny Young B&Ws, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer and Lou Salamone Chief Financial Officer to discuss our second quarter results. During this call, certain statements we make will be forward-looking. These statements are subject to risks and uncertainties, including those set forth in our safe harbor provision for forward-looking statements that can be found at the end of our earnings press release and also in our Form 10-Q that will be filed today and our Form 10-K that is on file with the SEC and provide further detail about the risks related to our business. Additionally, except as required by law, we undertake no obligation to update any forward-looking statements. We also provide non-GAAP information regarding certain of our historical and targeted results to supplement the results provided in accordance with GAAP. This information should not be considered superior to or as a substitute for the comparable GAAP measures. A reconciliation of historical non-GAAP measures can be found in our first quarter earnings release published this afternoon and in our company overview presentation that will be filed on Form 8-K this afternoon and posted on the Investor Relations section of our website at babcock.com. I will now turn the call over to Kenny.

Kenny Young

Management

Thank you Sharyn and thanks to everyone for joining us this afternoon. Our second quarter results highlight another exciting step for the company as we continue to support our customers energy transformation, as well as continued support for thermal baseload generation. We are now seen by our customers and potential customers as a technological leader and innovator in energy transition. With the combined efforts of our worldwide employees and our senior leadership team we continued to progress against our long term strategic growth strategy during the second quarter. While revenues improved 9% our adjusted EBITA increased by 35%. And our bookings and backlog improved by 46% as compared to the second quarter of 2021. Our net income was lower due to negative effects from foreign exchange rates and a shareholder litigation settlement. But overall, we are using the strength of our balance sheet using cash to accelerate growth in our renewable segments, as well as increasing inventory for our thermal segment to leverage our competitive advantage and our parts and services business. These accomplishments in the second quarter combined with our recent and anticipated bookings positions us well for a strong 2022, 2023 and beyond. The war in Ukraine, lingering COVID-19 effects and global supply chain disruption present ongoing challenges to our project timing and parts deliberately similar to many other companies around the world. However, we continue to work to mitigate these challenges the best we can by leveraging our established global resources with respect to raw materials and other items that are delayed from time to time. And we may continue to experience impacts as these global conditions progress. Longer term, however, we recognize potential tailwind opportunities for our business segment is demand for energy security and alternatives to natural gas continue to emerge. Our recent bookings and…

Lou Salamone

Management

Thanks, Kenny. I’m really pleased to review our second quarter results. Further details which can be found in the 10-Q that will be on file with the SEC. Second quarter consolidated revenues were 221 million which is a 9% improvement compared to the second quarter of 2021. This is primarily driven by higher volume, driven by new build projects, and the impact of acquisitions completed in the first quarter of 2022. In addition to a higher level of volume in the renewable segment, and partially offset by lower level of construction activity in the thermal segment. Our net operating income for the second quarter of 2022 was 3.7 million as compared to operating income of 2.8 million in the second quarter of 2021. Our adjusted EBITDA was 20.6 million, as compared to 15.2 million in the second quarter of 2021. While bookings in the second quarter of 2022 were 245 million, which is an increase of 46%. compared to the second quarter bookings of 2021. Our ending backlog was 731 million which is a 46% increase compared to the backlog at the end of the second quarter of 2021. I’ll now turn to our second quarter segment results. Within our Babcock & Wilcox, renewable segment revenues are 75.2 million for the second quarter of 2022. This as Kenny had mentioned is a 96% increase, compared to the 38.3 million in the second quarter of 2021. The increase in revenue was primarily driven by higher volume of new build projects, as well as the acquisition and continued growth of foster construction and our VODA acquisition. Adjusted EBITDA on the quarter was 8.9 million as compared to 3.4 million in the second quarter of 21. And this is primarily due to higher revenue volume on new build projects and as discussed a…

Kenny Young

Management

Thanks Lou. In closing, Babcock & Wilcox continues to successfully build upon its significant transformation over the last couple of years. We now have a strong balance sheet expanding opportunities across all of our business segments and a robust pipeline of more than 7.5 billion of identified global opportunities over the next three years. We are extremely excited about the prospects for the business and based on our recent bookings and existing backlog, we remain well-positioned for a milestone of 2022, 2023 and beyond. Our team of dedicated employees remains one of the most driving forces behind our success as a company and collectively their continued focus on safety, strong project execution, expansion of our bookings and backlog and commitment to helping us become leaders in the global clean energy transition are unmatched across the industry. Looking ahead, B&W remains in a growth mode, and we continue to pursue our ongoing strategic initiatives, including the evaluation of additional acquisition opportunities for both mature and emerging technologies, investments in new clean energy projects and the conversion of our significant global pipeline of identified projects in the bookings. And lastly, I’d like to touch on an issue that we have previously highlighted and one that is extremely important to our mission as a company, we continue to see B&W on the forefront of the global fight against climate change. And, as stated, we expect 2022 to be a milestone year driven by significant advancements within our ClimateBright, decarbonisation and hydrogen solution platform. We remain excited about the opportunities ahead in this area and about being an innovative leader in carbon capture, decarbonisation, and hydrogen production and we continue to build on our advanced technologies to meet the growing demand of our customer base for a long term energy security and decarbonisation strategy. I will now turn the call back over to Matt, who will assist in taking a few questions, Matt?

Operator

Operator

Thank you. The first question is from the line of Rob Brown with Lake Street Capital. Your line is now open.

Rob Brown

Analyst

Good afternoon. Ken and Lou. First question is really on the pipeline and ClimateBright. You’ve got a couple of nice projects started here. How is that pipeline looking in and could you give sort of a range of sort of kind of a project level revenue for one of those type of projects?

Kenny Young

Management

Sure, yes. The pipeline actually is growing. I mean, it’s been very excited to see the actually, the response in the marketplace from our customers on the technology itself. And the general feedback has been extremely strong. We’re hopeful to put out publicly a few engineering reviews and others that we’ve received from our customers once those are complete and that will solidify. I think, the strength of the technology overall. But we’ve been very pleased with the momentum in the marketplace. As we’ve talked about previously, the unique part about our BrightLoop technology in particular, that we’re excited about is that globally, it increases, if you will, the addressable market for B&W as it relates to where we can position that technology. And what I mean by that, basically, is that with that technology can be used in a wide variety of circumstances that B&W historically hasn’t been able to participate before. Such as even in the oil and gas industry in leveraging petcoke that was traditionally a waste product now can be used in our brand new system to create either heat for other industrial processes or hydrogen or other sin gases can be utilized as well. So it opens the door to a number of different areas. That’s true in food and beverage and in other vertical markets as well to globally. So we’re excited about moving that forward proving that that scalable technology, obviously in the few places that we’ve just announced and look forward to furthering a number of other projects that we’re in discussions with that are in our pipeline today. So we’re seeing strong appeal and demand and growth opportunities there. I think the other exciting part for us is, we don’t necessarily need to scale that technology. Although we can to baseload…

Operator

Operator

Thank you for your question. The next question is from the line of Alex Rygiel with B. Riley. Your line is now open.

Alex Rygiel

Analyst

Thank you, and kind of expanding upon that, you’ve got a number of sort of project announcements that haven’t yet hit your backlog. Anyway, to kind of bracket sort of what that pending backlog number looks like that can be additive over the next six months of projects that you’ve sort of announced already or signed some type of agreement with?

Kenny Young

Management

Yes, I think we may have mentioned a little bit here and there in the past, Alex. But overall, I think if you looked at the myriad of potential projects that we anticipate adding that we’ve announced publicly you could look at that in the several 100 million dollar range plus but without breaking it down into specific projects just for sensitivities as we continue to negotiate on the final configuration of these projects, but it’s a few 100 million that’s out there or greater. That would be potentially added to the backlog over the next six to nine months.

Alex Rygiel

Analyst

Very helpful. And then Kenny, maybe you could talk a little bit about the cadence of EBITDA sort of in 3Q and 4Q that is implied in your full year guidance understanding COVID and Ukraine delays and whatnot? I want to make sure we kind of understand what the seasonality will look like this year.

Kenny Young

Management

Yes with that – go ahead Lou.

Lou Salamone

Management

No. No.

Kenny Young

Management

Go ahead Lou.

Lou Salamone

Management

I just want to say that cadence is one that’s been consistent throughout the years, over the four quarters. Your first quarter is the lowest quarter. Second quarter grows in the 40% to 50% range. And then the third quarter begins to kick off as there’s higher usage of outages and maintenance and part sales. And then the largest quarter, probably more than doubled of what the first quarter would be would be the fourth quarter. And the fourth quarter is a combination of finishing outages and then also very heavy quarter for part sales as the utility business and so forth starts ramping up and purchasing for the following year and using up their budget. So the cadence is first quarter lower, second quarter, 20%, 30%, higher, third quarter, 20%, 30% higher, etc on into the fourth quarter.

Alex Rygiel

Analyst

And then lastly, Kenny, the solar market this year was in somewhat of transition, but it seems to be there’s much greater clarity today. I know through any earlier acquisitions, you sort of bought a shadow backlog of opportunities that was quite substantial. Can you comment on how you see that shadow backlog or pipeline developing in 2023?

Kenny Young

Management

Yes, we’re heavily focused Alex, I think on building up the strength of BMW in the solar market, obviously, continuing to do more of the community solar projects and the numbers again, going back to I think the smaller projects are nice because they reduce the overall risk profile of the company. But it gives us a lot of strength and credibility around that at the same time, I mentioned that in the remark here. And as we put out a press release a few weeks ago, we’re picking up some smaller utility scale projects, doing the services work on the 240 megawatt in western Ohio was a nice win for us and one that will realize, obviously, some impact this year. But putting that on the books is important. It proves in our capabilities and around both the strength of the community solar, which the company we acquired had been strong and now leveraging the strength of B&W and the positioning we have within the utility scale sector, I think in combining both of those puts us in a strong position going forward. Equally, as everyone on the call knows, obviously the announcements by the White House and others to remove the impact of the tariffs on the solar panels has been a big help to really release, I think a lot of investment dollars back into the U.S. again around solar. And I think we’re in a good position there to leverage that. But the pipeline is strong for us in both those sectors. And we’ll continue to effectively operate towards increasing the size and scale. But we’ll do it in a very healthy way that doesn’t outpace our capabilities while we continue to grow that business.

Operator

Operator

Thank you for your question. The next question is from the line of Aaron Spychalla with Craig-Hallum. Your line is now open.

Aaron Spychalla

Analyst

Hi, Kenny and Lou thanks for taking the questions. First, in Europe, can you just kind of give us an update on how conversations are progressing there given kind of Russia, Ukraine and the gas prices? What areas of interests are you seeing whether waste to energy or others and just how your thinking orders develop here as we look into the back half of the year and into 2023?

Kenny Young

Management

Yes I mean, it’s I think it’s driving several decisions over there that we’re seeing and it’s in our pipeline now. But anticipate making a few announcements here in the not too distant future. But I think we’re seeing some increase in immediate response to demand on investment capital going into new ways to energy plants, newer technologies, looking at even the BrightLoop aspect and perhaps accelerating the project to or here or there in Europe. But clearly, without question, I mean, every country is a little bit different in Europe as it relates to responding to that particular situation. But we are seeing, I think, across the board, most of the energy companies look towards other technologies to long term remove themselves from the reliance of too much natural gas in the European aspect. We are, as we’ve mentioned before, it’s going to have a material impact on the business yet too little too early to tell. But we are in conversations with a few as it relates to certain parts and services and other aspects on re-commissioning of some of the coal plants in Europe. Not real positive, those are going to 100% come across the board. We’ll see how that progresses given time, but we’re clearly in discussions with a few various companies, whether that be in Germany or in other parts that are looking to recondition some coal as it relates to potentially resolving some security issues on the natural gas side or having some power demand and baseload generation as they enter into the winter season and prepare for that. So we’ll see how that impacts us overall. I think it’s just too early to state that there’s going to be material value coming from that as it relates to us. But I think what we are seeing is a little bit of a driver on a few projects in the waste energy renewable side in response to what’s happening over there.

Aaron Spychalla

Analyst

Alright, thanks. And then maybe second, just revisiting ClimateBright a little bit. Can you talk about some of the gating factors on those projects moving forward, and then just a little bit on the inflation reduction act? Obviously, hydrogen carbon capture is a big part of that just how that might impact economics broadly for these projects as they look to move forward?

Kenny Young

Management

Sure, well, let me start the latter first. We’re obviously like everyone else piecing together the impact of that legislation that anticipate getting signed here into law, but and have been in discussions with a few around some of the particulars around that we’ve, as I think we’ve mentioned in the past publicly have spent a great deal of time with the Department of Energy and also various federal and state level organizations around trying to leverage a lot of the tax credits and initiatives coming from this. There is a desire, I think, within various groups in the federal government to work towards leveraging either natural gas or even some of the waste coal items that we’ve talked about in the past inclusive of biomass and other materials, but in the hydrogen production and creation. And we’re directly involved in many of those conversations around some of the programs that have been outlined not only in this act, but some of the programs that have been outlined by the Department of Energy as well too. And without getting into a lot of detail we’re obviously hopeful that we’re participating in some of those and without question, we’ll be making announcements when and where appropriate, in association with those, but we think the act will help drive some of the increased CO2 credits that are associated with that, in conjunction with possibly some other funding that might come available in association with these in various states. And we’re in keen talks, obviously, with those as we speak. On the BrightLoop side, as far as the gating factors go the big area for us right now, we’ll be proving in the scale up aspect of that technology 21 times over where we have tested previously, which is pretty typical and normal within a evolution of technology. The biggest items we’re going to be observing obviously, is going to be the cycle time of the BrightLoop. It’s a chemical looping process, as we’ve talked about using a special iron ore particle that was jointly developed by us and Ohio State University. And we’ll be looking at to prove in the cycle times of those particular particles and to really ascertain the wear and tear of those particles within the 21 timescale up. So that’s probably the biggest gating factor. I think the rest of the technology from an output standpoint, we’re very confident and comfortable with but we’ll need to verify that the wear and tear on iron ore particles as it relates to each of those cycle times, as we move into the next level of the platform, where we move into providing obviously guarantees and other aspects around the wear and tear of those particles. That will be the biggest piece that we want to observe here on these next demonstrations that we’re putting in place. So hopefully that helps, but that’s where our focus is.

Aaron Spychalla

Analyst

No, that does that helps a lot. Thanks. Thanks for taking the questions.

Operator

Operator

Thank you for your question. The next question is from the line with D.A. Davidson. Your line is now open.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Good afternoon team and thank you for taking my questions. First off here, but how are you approaching new contracts, given the supply issues and the inflation seeing across the market? And essentially, how are you protecting yourself?

Kenny Young

Management

So most of our contracts and projects and we have 1000s. So wouldn’t it’s not a perfect science across the board. But most of them, we have provisions in the agreement that provide some protection against inflation on certain price and materials and other aspects around those. We also typically our approach to these projects from a global supply chain perspective is we lock in the pricing for the key material pieces, raw steel and other aspects that are included in the fabrication are typically locked in with our subcontractors prior to the project, beginning as well. So that adds also a level of protection to the company that we’re not subjected to inflationary increases. On occasion, there are certain things that happen here or there that we’ve got to absorb but those are typically minimal overall from that standpoint. I think our, the biggest impact for us that we have to really monitor and keep an eye on a project level as it relates to delays not necessarily on our parts on projects but as our customers are building especially some of the new waste energy and other new technology plants going in as they’re acquiring fabrication and other aspects from the EPC. Sometimes those are delayed, which means our lay down area or our technology could be delayed by a few days, a few weeks or whatever. And those are items that we have to keep an eye on. And of course we do the best we can to put in protection for those delays so it doesn’t actually impact us from a cost standpoint. But we do try to mitigate that on a global basis. Again, not a perfect science overall. But for the most part, we’ve got that as best we can under control. And Lou you want to add anything to that?

Lou Salamone

Management

Yes, I think the other thing that we’ve done is we’ve purchased ahead on inventory where we know we’re going to use it. So we’re not subject to the volatility of the markets. And we have on hand inventory that we can use to meet parts and other orders. And that also protects us from the rising prices because we bought the inventory earlier between December and now. So I think those two that what Kenny spoke about and what we’ve done, to have an inventory that we can deliver quickly at lower prices, and have supply available helping us mitigate it, not perfect, but we took steps to mitigate it early on as the pandemic hit and then the Ukraine situation hit.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Thank you for that. And my follow-up here would be do you think we could see more of an uptick in thermal maintenance and aftermarket work in 3Q versus 4Q essentially, to get ahead of the winter months are our schedules for that work pretty firm now.

Kenny Young

Management

The schedules are somewhat firm, but we do anticipate a pickup. We’ve actually seen an increase in bookings in the parts and services business, as customers get ready for the fall outages and are trying to manage and schedule around those. As we’ve said, prior, and it’s still true, the coal plants in particular are still being used quite heavily, obviously, around the world, but in lieu of natural gas because of the high cost and pricing of natural gas itself. And so we’re still seeing our customers utilize those plants 24/7 obviously, through the summer months, as well, too, but we are seeing a lot of customers really gear up more towards certain outages in the fall. And in particular, probably different than the past. They’re really ordering and looking ahead to try to be prepared for the fall outages, which is great for us from a booking standpoint, but we’re obviously getting prepared for some of that revenue to bounce in as it relates to Q3 and Q4. So we do anticipate an uptick, but that’s within our plans, obviously and as we stated before, it’s within our target EBITDA that we’re reinforcing here.

Operator

Operator

There are no additional questions waiting at this time. So I will pass the conference over to Sharyn Brooks for any closing remarks.

Sharyn Brooks

Management

Thank you for joining us. This concludes our conference call. A replay will be available for a limited time on our website later today.

Operator

Operator

That concludes that concludes the conference call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect your lines.