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Babcock & Wilcox Enterprises, Inc. (BW)

Q4 2017 Earnings Call· Thu, Mar 1, 2018

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Operator

Operator

My name is Chantal, and I'll be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Babcock & Wilcox Q4 2017 Earnings Conference Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers’ remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Thank you. Chase Jacobson, Vice President of Investor Relations, you may begin your conference.

Chase Jacobson

Analyst

Thank you, Chantal, and good afternoon, everyone. Welcome to Babcock & Wilcox Enterprise's fourth quarter 2017 earnings conference call. I'm Chase Jacobson, Vice President of Investor Relations at B&W. Joining me this afternoon are Leslie Kass, B&W's President and Chief Executive Officer; and Jenny Apker, Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, to discuss our fourth quarter results and outlook. During this call, certain statements we make will be forward-looking. These statements are subject to risks and uncertainties, including those set forth in our safe harbor provision for forward-looking statements that can be found at the end of our earnings press release and also in our annual report on Form 10-K on file with the SEC, which provides further detail about the risks related to our business. Additionally, except as required by law, we undertake no obligation to update any forward-looking statement. We also provide non-GAAP information regarding certain of our historical results as well as our forward outlook to supplement the results provided in accordance with GAAP. This information should not be considered superior to, or as a substitute for, the comparable GAAP measures. A reconciliation of historical non-GAAP measures can be found in our fourth quarter earnings release published this afternoon and in our company overview presentation posted on the Investor Relations section of our website at babcock.com. I would ask you that limit yourself to one question and perhaps one follow up. You’re corresponsive to get back in the queue. With that, I will turn the call over to Leslie.

Leslie Kass

Analyst

Thank you, Chase, good afternoon everyone. Over the last 150 years, B&W has been built on its commitments to provide end-customers with high quality engineered equipment, solutions and aftermarket services. In the first few weeks of my new role, I've been meeting with employees from around the company, our partners, customers and other stakeholders and I've been heavily engaged with our renewable new-build projects including fixed income of our project sites and customers in the UK. We had many successes to be proud of across our company. There's work to be done? And we’re taking action to drive improved results in 2018 and beyond. As announced with the third quarter results in November, we implemented a cost reduction efforts aimed at improving efficiency in our overall cost structure. Maybe of the action specific to this program are complete and we are beginning to see the benefits as evidenced by strong margin performance in tower and reduced SG&A in the fourth quarter. As our company end-markets evolve, we remain intensely focused on cost discipline and ongoing goal to improve efficiencies throughout the organization and to drive improved profitability and cash flow. We’ve realigned businesses within our Power segment to allow for faster decision making and reduce the number of senior executive positions. We're also limiting capital expenditures and instilling a more bottom-line focused culture throughout the organization. Also as announced in November, we began evaluating strategic alternatives for our MEGTEC and Universal businesses. We have received a high-level of inbound interest from both strategic and financial sponsors and expect to close the transaction in mid 2018. Despite slightly lower revenue in 2017, these businesses generated good margins and solid backlog. They have robust pipelines and potential for new market growth such as in lithium ion battery and they’re positioned for robust…

Jenny Apker

Analyst

Thanks, Leslie. Good afternoon everyone. Our fourth quarter consolidated revenues were $408 million, up 7% from the prior year as revenue from acquisitions and organic growth in our industrial segment and progress on new build projects on our renewable segment, which partially offsets by lower revenue mainly on new build and environmental contracts in tower. In the quarter, we had a GAAP operating loss of $23.4 million and the GAAP loss per share of $2.44. Included in the GAAP loss was a charge of $62 million, or $1.42 per share, or the revaluation of deferred tax assets as a result of the recently passed Tax Reform Act. On an adjusted basis for the fourth quarter of 2017, we had an operating loss of $21.1 million and a loss per share of $0.95. Adjusted EBITDA was a loss of $16.9 million. Compared to our expectations, operating earnings were lower due to lower profitability of SPIG and incremental costs related to the steel beam issue, which were partially offset by lower SG&A across the company, which was driven by cost savings and good cost control. Also interest expense in the quarter was $8 million higher compared to last year, reflecting a higher level of borrowings. Turning to our segment results. In tower, revenue was $209 million down modestly year-over-year due mainly to lower activities on new build and environmental projects and steam – and Industrial Steam Generation systems that partially offsets by an increase in retrofit service contracts. Gross margin this quarter was a robust 28.4%, especially the same as in the prior year quarter as benefits from good execution and cost savings mitigated the impact of modestly lower volume. While we would not expect this heightened level of margin going forward, we do expect gross margins in 2018 to be close…

Leslie Kass

Analyst

Thanks, Jenny. With the new financing arrangements in place, we've significantly improved our financial flexibility and business in the company for better results in 2018 and beyond. B&W has the most comprehensive portfolio of products and services for the coal-fired power market. This provides us with an important competitive advantage and we are working with customers to develop or extend alliance agreements to ensure they have the services they need while providing us with increased visibility into our revenue stream. In Power, we ended the year with solid bookings and had a strong start to 2018. The combination of our existing backlog, project that we booked in Q1 and our traditional run rate business make up nearly three quarters of our expected revenue in 2018. Importantly the remainder of our forecast has comprised mainly of small and medium sized contracts for utility and industrial customers and it's not dependent on any large international new build projects. In Renewable, our top priority is completing the projects currently in backlog; the market for waste energy is robust in our technologies and demand. We’re being highly selective in pursuing opportunities under the new execution model and we'll continue to focus on capturing our share of equipment-only contracts, while our after-market and O&M remains strong. Within industrial, we have significantly derisked SPIG portfolio and have increased our focus on bottom line performance relative to revenue growth in the near-term. Our MEGTEC and Universal businesses are poised for growth and we have optimistic outlooks for both in 2018. Overall our position for the future is improving with a strong support of our shareholders and lenders, we're building on our solid foundation and taking action around that organization to improve our overall business and financial profile, which we expect will lead the better financial performance in 2018 and sustained improvement going forward. We made good progress that there's much more to be done and I'm exciting to be leading a company with such a rich history at this pivotal time. With that I will now turn the call back over to Chantal, who will assist us in taking your questions.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Your first comes from the line of Tahira Afzal with KeyBanc Capital Markets. Your line is open.

Tahira Afzal

Analyst

Hi, Leslie, and welcome to the call.

Leslie Kass

Analyst

Thanks, Tahira. That was easier and Chase to see.

Tahira Afzal

Analyst

Well, I guess, the first thing obviously you are taking over the company at a very critical juncture, can you tell me about how you've prioritized or have you quantified all the different elements in terms of priority, starting off with the divestments, for example, MEGTEC that you mentioned alongside really trying to work out the bridge in terms of the cash side of the story.

Leslie Kass

Analyst

Well, certainly, the MEGTEC and Universal divestment, right, that's a process that we've had underway. Again, we have strong interest to that. I think as well in hand at this time. And in terms of overall priorities, right, number one is completing those Renewable projects, and we have a laser-focused on that, a good team in place. But that is number one, getting those done. And then as you heard in the call, we've got a number of other improvement opportunities going on concurrently just to help streamline the whole organization and get our costs down so that we're more competitive and making better cash flow. And obviously, we think the revenue in Power, too, this year, is – they’re very different place than last year, partly because we don't have the reliance on large international new build.

Tahira Afzal

Analyst

Got it. And Leslie, I haven’t had time to go through the 10-K. I know one of the things that was discussed last year was really breaking down the EBITDA from each portion of the business. And if you can also just touch on MEGTEC in terms of scope and size within the mix of your Industrial business, should we be looking at something similar to the time you purchase that?

Leslie Kass

Analyst

I am going to give Jenny the EBITDA question.

Jenny Apker

Analyst

Yes. So here, we will begin reporting segment EBITDA with Q1. That way, we can provide both the 2018 quarterly EBITDA for each segment, and we'll provide the comparable 2017 quarterly number. So we have not gathered or presented the quarterly information in – for 2017 in this manner, but we will begin reporting it that way in 2018.

Tahira Afzal

Analyst

Got it. And the MEGTEC EBITDA, Jenny, around the same as it used to be?

Jenny Apker

Analyst

We’re reporting MEGTEC inside of the Industrial business. I wouldn't expect that we're going to report MEGTEC specifically.

Tahira Afzal

Analyst

Got it. Thanks a lot folks.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Your next question comes from the line of Bob Labick with CJS Securities. Your line is open.

Bob Labick

Analyst · CJS Securities. Your line is open.

Thank you. And first I just wanted to say also to Leslie congratulations on your new role.

Leslie Kass

Analyst · CJS Securities. Your line is open.

Thanks Bob.

Bob Labick

Analyst · CJS Securities. Your line is open.

I wanted to – obviously, lots of information today, so thank you for all of this. I haven't fully had time to synthesize it all. Can you help us with – what were the capital structure look like after the rights offering, but before the potential divestitures of MEGTEC and Universal, in terms of how many shares outstanding and what would be the debt level at that time, assuming a successful rights offering as you're planning?

Jenny Apker

Analyst · CJS Securities. Your line is open.

Okay, so, Bob, we’ve got – prior to the rights offering, what we have on our capital structure today is the revolving line of credit, which we have been using to fund the cash needs of the company, primarily – specifically the outflows that have been – that that's necessary to support the development of those new-build – those Renewable projects. We got a second-lien loan, which has a notional amount – it has a base amount of $196 million today at that number on the balance sheet is decreased because of unaccreted OID, but the par value of that note is about $196 million. As we move to the recapitalization and the rights offering, we will use the proceeds from the rights offering, which we expect will be in the neighborhood of $180 million, plus a small amount of borrowing under our revolver to refinance that second-lien term loan. So the revolver will not move in a significant way from where it is otherwise and you'll see the, essentially, the replacement of second-lien subordinated or second-lien debt will be replaced by a flood of equity. It’s dramatically improves our leverage ratios and our financial flexibility, and we're very, very appreciative of the efforts of our shareholders to support that rights offering.

Bob Labick

Analyst · CJS Securities. Your line is open.

Okay, good. That’s helpful. Thank you. And in terms of cash flow, I think you actually even came in a little better than you had previously expected, maybe it was from the dividend from the Chinese company or something like that. But anyway, the previous expectations were continued use in the first either quarter or half of 2018 and then returning to free cash flow positive in the back half of 2018. Can you update that and give us any kind of size of cash flow use in the first half?

Jenny Apker

Analyst · CJS Securities. Your line is open.

In light of the recapitalization project underway, I'm quite hesitate to update the absolute kind of a forecast for free cash flow, given the expectation that interest expense and the like will change over the course of the year. That said, we did – our cash flow last year was slightly better than we had expected it would be. And a big portion of that is because the timing of that one project with the steel beam issue has been – as we've not been able to progress the work – since when you read the K, you'll understand that we just had a few extra delays in that that project. We have not had the outflows of that project. So those will likely come over the balance of 2018. We do expect the cash outflows in the first quarter to be relatively heavy, consistent with the completion of these other – a significant amount of work on these other projects as they near completion and get ready for handover to the customer. So as we get into the back half of the year, the cash flow improves significantly off of where it was in Q1. I am not ready to say whether it's solidly positive, or it remains, net neutral for the back half. Again, we're going to wait and evaluate that after we see what the impact of the recapitalization does.

Bob Labick

Analyst · CJS Securities. Your line is open.

Okay, thank you. Thanks for the parameters around that. I understand the difficulty with giving an exact number certainly right now and everything. So, thank you.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Jamie Cook from Credit Suisse. Your line is now open.

Jamie Cook

Analyst

Hi, good evening. First, just a little color. I mean, I don't know how much you guys can talk about it, but how are you thinking about – can you just give more color on the level of interest in terms of selling MEGTEC and Universal and just sort of the potential multiples you think are reasonable? I think you paid 8 to 9x. And I'm just wondering, given the situation we're in, whether buyers, I guess, will put a little pressure on that EBITDA margin assumption…

Jenny Apker

Analyst

You know Jamie, sure, so we've had really good participation in this process. It's been very robust. Again, it's a combination of strategic and financial folks. And I won't comment on anything specific but with that much interest, we're confident that we can come to a good conclusion.

Jamie Cook

Analyst

Okay. And then Leslie as well, how are you thinking – can you just talk about how you're thinking about the Renewables business longer term? I mean, is that still a good business to be in just given what we're seeing? And is it still the strategy to sort of focus more in the technology side and not getting to the construction side? Just trying to think about how you're thinking about that business longer term.

Leslie Kass

Analyst

Oh, you better believe we're focusing on technology, not construction. And I think if you look at that business, right, we never talk about the aftermarket business there that's very strong. The O&M business is going very well. And if we hadn't gotten over – into the construction side, the technology delivery where we did structural scope of boiler island and environmental equipment was very successful for years. So returning to that is – we fully believe, will be a good business for us. And it's right in the wheelhouse of B&W. It's combustion and environmental, so we're able to even trade resources from the U.S. and it's just a very strong business once you get past these construction opportunities. I mean, the technology is very good and works, strictly in the execution process.

Jamie Cook

Analyst

Okay, thanks. We will get back in queue.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Tahira Afzal with KeyBanc Capital Markets. Your line is now open.

Tahira Afzal

Analyst · KeyBanc Capital Markets. Your line is now open.

Just a few more questions on the call, so I'm glad I am right back on. Leslie, I guess, one question, I had – what’s your visibility on the industrial side because clearly, that's where you expect a lot of revenue growth into 2018. And you know the backlog, and obviously, that's trended up well, but this is a high bond business. So any help you can provide there? And what you think the run rate of this business should be on a going forward business even outside of this year?

Leslie Kass

Analyst · KeyBanc Capital Markets. Your line is now open.

Well, yeah, obviously with the sales, we think about it a little bit differently. But MEGTEC is gearing up for really strong year as is Universal has solid backlog. So both of to our businesses are in good shape. SPIG, as we mentioned, this will continue to be a transitional year for them. There's a ton of good opportunity. They have a strong aftermarket business, and it's a new-build execution where we're going to be cautious with new jobs as we work down our kind of – our older portfolio to make sure that our resources are applied appropriately and that we're very selective on how we treat these new build projects. So I think the guidance is there, and we feel good about it.

Jenny Apker

Analyst · KeyBanc Capital Markets. Your line is now open.

I would also comment, Tahira. Just as we have said before, the life cycle from you know signing a contract to completing a project in the Industrial segment is relatively short. And so you would not expect to be – to see a multiyear backlog in that business at any point in time. We've got very healthy backlog to support our 2018 numbers. And as we're working through 2018, we'll be building the backlog for 2019.

Tahira Afzal

Analyst · KeyBanc Capital Markets. Your line is now open.

Okay. And you know if I assume even high growth rates now with that business sort of taking a step down with the MEGTEC potentially sold off, Leslie and Jenny, what's the endgame because you could see coal continuing to decline 5% per annum. Do you feel at some point as a whole, you need to be part of a bigger entity? And once you had have a lot of this backlog derisked that it will provide those opportunities for you.

Leslie Kass

Analyst · KeyBanc Capital Markets. Your line is now open.

I think with our new financing arrangement, significantly delevers the business through the MEGTEC transaction, we'll be able to do that even more, and that will give us a solid footing to choose our fast-forward. And I think we've got to get the businesses we have as operationally sharp and profitable as they can be, and then that gives us a lot of opportunity for the future. So our focus now again is getting those legacy projects in Renewable behind us, making sure the businesses we have are high functioning and then we can choose our path forward and be more in control.

Jenny Apker

Analyst · KeyBanc Capital Markets. Your line is now open.

And Tahira, I would further comment. There is a tremendous amount of operating synergies, sales and business development synergy among the Power, the Renewable and the SPIG business. They worked very well together. And if we can focus on developing incremental efficiencies and being more effective in the way we approach markets and the way we do some of the businesses or with a cleaner balance sheet and some good market, I think this is a – we've got tremendous technology. We've got outstanding people. We have a passion to really take good care of our customers. I think that we've got a very bright future. And we're just trying to make sure that we are optimizing the opportunities for this company and our shareholders and our investors, I mean, and our lenders, our customers, this is a really good story, and we're excited about being part of this 2018 and looking forward

Operator

Operator

This concludes today’s conference call. A replay will be available for a limited time on our website after the call. You know now disconnect.