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Compañía de Minas Buenaventura S.A.A. (BVN)

Q1 2019 Earnings Call· Thu, May 2, 2019

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Operator

Operator

Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Compañía de Minas Buenaventura First Quarter 2019 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Please note that this call is being recorded. I would now like to introduce your host for today's call, Mr. Rodrigo Echecopar, Investor Relations. Mr. Echecopar, you may begin.

Rodrigo Echecopar

Investor Relations

Good morning and welcome everyone. Presenting on the call today is Mr. Victor Gobitz, CEO. Also present and available for your questions are Mr. Leandro Garcia, Vice President and CFO; Mr. Juan Carlos Ortiz, Vice President of Operations; Raúl Benavides, Vice President of Business Development; and Alejandro Hermoza Vice President of Sustainability. Before we get started, during today’s call we will make forward-looking statements that reflect the company's current expectations about future plans and performance. These statements rely on assumptions and estimates, and actual results may differ materially due to risk and uncertainties. I encourage you to read the full disclosure concerning forward-looking statements which is in the press release we filed on April 30, 2019. With that, I will now turn the call over to Mr. Victor Gobitz, CEO. Victor, please go ahead.

Victor Gobitz

CEO

Thank you, Rodrigo. Good morning to all and thank you for attending this conference call. We are pleased to present our results of our first quarter of 2019 from Compañía de Minas Buenaventura. We have prepared a short PowerPoint presentation which is available in our web page. Before going any further, please take a moment to review the cautionary statement shown here on Slide 2. Moving on to slide 3, highlights were as followed. During this first quarter, Buenaventura generated additional EBITDA of $8 million due to continuous success of the company's De-Bottlenecking Program. In this first quarter EBITDA from direct operation was $24.7 million, compared to $99.1 million reported a year ago, primarily due to lower metal prices and a reduction in volumes sold at company's Orcopampa, Tambomayo and Uchucchacua mines. In this first quarter, adjusted EBITDA including associated companies reached $155.2 million compared to $175.2 million a year ago. The net income in this first quarter was $27.3 million compared to a net income of $28.4 million for a same period in 2018. In this first quarter, CapEx was $8.5 million compared to $21.2 million in the same period in 2018. At Cerro Verde, a dividend of $150 million at 100% basis which means $29.4 million attributable to Buenaventura. This amount was paid in April 30th of this year. And at our Yanacocha Sulfides project, the Environmental Impact Assessment study was approved in March 2019. Moving on to slide 4, we are showing our strategic map where we use our usual the capital B from the logo Buenaventura as visual index for the following slides. In the coming slides, we are going to discuss the financial results of the company. Moving on to slide 5, financial highlights. Total revenues during the first quarter were $186.2 million, which is…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Carlos De Alba with Morgan Stanley. Please state your question.

CarlosDeAlba

Analyst · Morgan Stanley. Please state your question

Yes. Good morning, everyone. So the first question is on Orcopampa and Uchucchacua. How is the ramp up in the gold mine moving along in the second quarter after you have seen what happening in April? And then in Uchucchacua, is the production fully or the production rate fully recovered after the strike that we saw in the first quarter. The second question is on working capital. It came a little bit as a surprise I think surprise versus our expectation. The moves in receivable and payables in particular. What is the evolution of working capital throughout the year that you guys are expecting? And then finally, what is the situation if you could remind us with the Cerro Verde discussions around the dividend policy? Were you able to address sort of the objectives that minority shareholders may have in the shareholders meeting? And then what is your expectations going forward? Thank you.

VictorGobitz

Analyst · Morgan Stanley. Please state your question

Thank you, Carlos. You have three different questions. The first one is related to operations. The second one regarding our financial figures and the third one regarding Cerro Verde. The first part, Carlos, Ortiz, our COO will be -- to answer his part.

JuanCarlosOrtiz

Analyst · Morgan Stanley. Please state your question

Carlos, hi. Thank you for your question. Regarding Orcopampa, we recovered production after one month of suspended activities only with exploration and current maintenance in the underground mine. And we keep running our exploration program along the first quarter. We're going to say that we are not having expected the result so far with exploration. So we keep right now linked with our guidance for 2019. We will see further results of exploration in the next quarter for the underground mine. From the surface program, surface exploration program, we are having some delays with the permits and probably we will need to postpone that exploration program to the next year due to their restriction for the --with the permit. From the Uchucchacua mine, we will resume fully operation after the strike in February. We were ramping a production quickly and we are running at full production right now.

VictorGobitz

Analyst · Morgan Stanley. Please state your question

So, Carlos, but just to summarize the concept, we are very confident to achieve our annual guidance in terms of profitability and specifically in the case of Uchucchacua, we will reduce the silver production but keep going with the same number in terms of profitability. We have many rooms to improve in this mine. Your second question was regarding the working capital. Here, Leandro Garcia, our CFO will answer it.

LeandroGarcia

Analyst · Morgan Stanley. Please state your question

Hi, Carlos. Good morning. And regarding our working capital, yes, well, this is -- this was budgeted is in line with our beginning year calculations and this is a period that we have scheduled payments, amortization but we are planning and we are sure that the level of working capital we will recover in the third quarter.

CarlosDeAlba

Analyst · Morgan Stanley. Please state your question

And, Leandro, the guidance for free cash flow for the year still stand?

LeandroGarcia

Analyst · Morgan Stanley. Please state your question

Yes. At the end of the year, right?

CarlosDeAlba

Analyst · Morgan Stanley. Please state your question

Yes. For a full year.

LeandroGarcia

Analyst · Morgan Stanley. Please state your question

Yes.

VictorGobitz

Analyst · Morgan Stanley. Please state your question

Thanks, Carlos. Your third question was regarding Cerro Verde. We recently held our board meeting during Cisco event in Chile, and we as part of the agenda, we discussed this policy dividend, and we unanimously agreed to postpone this discussion to 2020 because during this year 2019 we expect to sort as -- Cerro Verde level. This tax dispute with the authority. And right now Cerro Verde has very strong cash position and the reason is that one option is to full pay this liability with the authority here in Peru.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Tanya Jakusconek with Scotiabank. Please state your question.

TanyaJakusconek

Analyst · Scotiabank. Please state your question

Hi, yes. Good morning, everybody. Thank you for taking my questions. Coming to Yanacocha, now that we have Quecher Main coming in, what do we look like in terms of dividends coming out of Yanacocha this year now we've set the capital to build it?

VictorGobitz

Analyst · Scotiabank. Please state your question

Hey, good morning, Tania. Thank you for a question. Here is Raúl Benavides; I am going to handle the call to him. RaúlBenavides: Good morning, Tania. Well, there is no discussion about dividends because we have the sulfide project for the future so we're keeping cash in order to build that project. The first price of the project by Newmont is to build an ore phase in an investment of $2.1 billion in total. And that's what Newmont publicly state as well.

TanyaJakusconek

Analyst · Scotiabank. Please state your question

Okay. So we're just keeping the money in there for the sulfides. Also, maybe if I can ask another 2 questions. CapEx and exploration, they were so much lower than normal in Q1. Are we expecting them to increase over the remainder of the year? Has there been any change to your CapEx or exploration guidance?

LeandroGarcia

Analyst · Scotiabank. Please state your question

Thank you Tanya for your question. Yes, clearly the first quarter of this year was affected by the heavy rainy season. In many areas we postponed this exploration drilling program, but definitely in the following quarter we expect to increase this number and to reach our budgeted number.

TanyaJakusconek

Analyst · Scotiabank. Please state your question

In addition to the CapEx, sustaining CapEx? That was also lower. In addition to the CapEx sustaining CapEx that was also lower

LeandroGarcia

Analyst · Scotiabank. Please state your question

No. We maintain our guidance. Let me see the number. It's $80 million to $120 million.

TanyaJakusconek

Analyst · Scotiabank. Please state your question

Yes. You only spend the $8 million this quarter. So I'm just wondering if that still stands.

VictorGobitz

Analyst · Scotiabank. Please state your question

Yes. It stands.

TanyaJakusconek

Analyst · Scotiabank. Please state your question

Okay. And then my last question has to do with Tambomayo. Unit costs were well above the guidance for the year in Q1. Can you tell us why? And is this related to the processing changes that you've done? Why the cost high there?

VictorGobitz

Analyst · Scotiabank. Please state your question

Thank you for your question, Tanya. That related to the de-bottlenecking program and Juan Carlos Ortiz, our COO will answer it.

JuanCarlosOrtiz

Analyst · Scotiabank. Please state your question

Tanya, the operation in Tambomayo run very smoothly, but due to the change in the process we have a lot of inventory at the end of the quarter. Basically, we were reaching the high gold content lead concentrates and we have a lot of gold inventory in the process. So we have that production coming out in April and May and we will balance our average OpEx back into line.

TanyaJakusconek

Analyst · Scotiabank. Please state your question

So you took the -- all of the costs for the inventory in Q1, and then you didn't get the revenue until Q2. Is that correct?

JuanCarlosOrtiz

Analyst · Scotiabank. Please state your question

Exactly, exactly. The chunk of the gold are being are carried to this quarter.

TanyaJakusconek

Analyst · Scotiabank. Please state your question

Okay. And does that -- so are cost guidance for the year is still intact?

JuanCarlosOrtiz

Analyst · Scotiabank. Please state your question

Yes. End of Q&A

Operator

Operator

Since there are no further questions up in the queue. This concludes our question-and-answer session. And now I would like to turn the conference back over to Mr. Victor Gobitz for closing remarks.

Victor Gobitz

CEO

Okay. Thank you everyone for joining our conference call this morning. At our Buenaventura team, we are committed to developing the full potential of our existing assets through our de-bottlenecking program, prioritizing the long-term perspective in order to become a more predictable company in terms of production and profitability. Furthermore, we are implementing a disciplined process for value generations through enhanced methodology in orrder to optimize our capital allocation. Before we finish this call, I would like to let you know that I am attending the Bank of America Global Metals and Mining and Steel Conference from Tuesday 14th to Wednesday 15th in Barcelona. Spain. Thank you again and have a wonderful day.

Operator

Operator

This concludes today's teleconference. You may now disconnect your line at this time. Thank you for your participation.