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Q1 2023 Earnings Call· Fri, May 5, 2023

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Operator

Operator

Thank you for standing by. This is the conference operator. Welcome to the Baytex Energy Corp., First Quarter 2023 Financial and Operating Results Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] The conference is being recorded. [Operator Instructions] I would now like to turn the conference over to Brian Ector, Vice President, Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Brian Ector

Analyst

Thank you, Ariel. Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and thank you for joining us to discuss our first quarter 2023 financial and operating results. Today, I am joined by Eric Greager, our President and Chief Executive Officer; Chad Kalmakoff, our Chief Financial Officer; and Chad Lundberg, our Chief Operating and Sustainability Officer. While listening, please keep in mind that some of our remarks will contain forward-looking statements within the meaning of applicable securities laws. I refer you to the advisories regarding forward-looking statements, oil and gas information and non-GAAP financial and capital management measures in yesterday's press release. All dollar amounts referenced in our remarks are in Canadian dollars unless otherwise specified. And following our prepared remarks, we will be taking questions from the analysts. In addition, if you are listening in today via the webcast, you will have the opportunity to submit an online question and we will do our best to answer all questions submitted. With that, I would now like to turn the call over to Eric.

Eric Greager

Analyst

Thanks, Brian, and good morning, everyone. I'd like to welcome all of you to our first quarter conference call. Before discussing our Q1 results, I want to provide a brief update on the Ranger acquisition, which is expected to close late in the second quarter. The transaction materially increases our Eagle Ford scale, while building a quality operating capability in the premier Texas Gulf Coast basin. We believe the combined company will deliver a powerful combination of substantial free cash flow and increase shareholder returns on a per share basis. Importantly, on a pro forma basis, we will be in a strong financial position that is supported by significant liquidity and a balanced note maturity profile. Since announcing the transaction on February 28, we've achieved a number of key milestones. On April 10, we filed our information circular and merger proxy statement for our annual and special meeting to be held virtually on May 15, and these documents can be found on our website. We encourage all shareholders to vote in advance of the cutoff date of May 11. On April 12, we announced a proposed USD 750 million private offering of senior unsecured notes due 2030. We subsequently upsized the offering to USD 800 million on strong demand. Closing occurred on April 27 and the notes bear interest at a rate of 8.5% per annum. This was a key part of our financing strategy for the Ranger acquisition, and we are very pleased with the support we received from fixed income investors. Lastly, April 13 was the expiration of a waiting period under the Hart-Scott-Rodino Antitrust Improvements Act, which satisfied one of the conditions of the merger. I'm also pleased to announce that T.J. Cepak will join Jeff Wojahn as one of the 2 independent directors from Ranger we…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Amir Arif of ATB Capital.

Amir Arif

Analyst

Just a couple of quick questions. Just on the hedges, I noticed you did add another -- quite a bit of oil batches you went from, I think, like 10,000 to 15,000 barrels a day. I know you were looking to increase your hedges heading into this -- closing this transaction. What's the target range on the hedging in terms of how much volumes you're looking to hedge post the deal?

Eric Greager

Analyst

Yes. So this is Eric. Amir, thanks for the question. I'll hit at a high level, and then I'll pitch it to Chad Kalmakoff. We are looking to get up to on a pro forma basis, approximately 40% of NRI production. So net production -- net oil production up to 40%. And the basic structure of those instruments, and it's important to understand this, is that these are going to be wide 2-way collars, generally, $60 puts, $100 calls and you'll see this continue to manifest itself in the structure. Chad, over to you to add anything you might want to add in terms of just how we intend to…

Chad Kalmakoff

Analyst

Sure. Thanks, Eric. Yes. So as Eric said, we're looking to have 40% of the production hedged for the next 12 months post-closing transaction, really targeting that $60 floor. We have a fair bit done today; Ranger has been active in their head book through Q1 here. So come to close, we'll have the opportunity to kind of restructure a little bit of their hedge book or kind of noway hedges in as we see fit. But yes, again, looking kind of to the absolute $60 floor, and then kind of getting a 5 as close as we possibly can. On a go-forward basis after that, I think as we reduce leverage below the 1x, we'll kind of reduce that hedging target. So at 1x, think about it at 40%, 0.9x, kind of 30% and then kind of working a way down as we get to that debt target of the $1.5 billion, which kind of represents about 1.6x at a $75 rule.

Amir Arif

Analyst

Got it. That's helpful. And just second question, just on the guidance. I know pro forma guidance -- guidance on the combined company won't be out until after the deal closes. But just curious, we've seen some companies who require assets where to slow down the pace of activity and use that as a free cash flow engine, others view it as a noncore -- or asset that's been undercapitalized and accelerated capital, I mean the Ranger it's a pure-play preferred producer, just direct [indiscernible] what you're thinking of pace of capital relative to where Ranger was without capital program?

Eric Greager

Analyst

Yes. Thanks, Amir. So we're thinking -- we slow it down a little bit, and the reason for that is to be pretty consistent with the balance of our portfolio and our organic production growth rate generally pointing toward about 4% per year organic production growth. Ranger was growing at faster than that. And we like this plan for a couple of reasons. One, it allows us to take the team's talent and resources and efforts and time and focus a little bit more on kind of deeper technical insights working the assets technically and operationally around just operating efficiency and not growing at quite so fast. So we're thinking -- 2 rigs level loaded, maybe a little bit more than 2 rigs. So there might be a spot rig that comes in from time to time. But generally speaking, we're going to hold the asset to a slight inclined, but not growing as fast as Ranger Stand-Alone had it growing. Again, that's going to liberate resources, time and energy and gifts and talent to focus on squeezing out costs, improving operational efficiencies. We also think, generally speaking, level loading assets across the portfolio is the best way to extract operational efficiency and synergies out of the assets. And so it's not unique to Eagle Ford that will level load -- we level load the balance of our operations as well, targeting this kind of level-loaded nodes or channels of efficiency where the asset works really well, and the capital efficiencies are optimized. So that's our plan, slow it down just a little bit, and that will allow a number of things kind of naturally fall in place in there.

Amir Arif

Analyst

That's great color, Eric. And then just 1 final question for me. Just on that new Clearwater well that you had, could you give us a sense of what the capital cost is on that well and just initial decline rates you're seeing from that 30-day IP rate?

Eric Greager

Analyst

Yes. I'm not sure that the 30-day IP or the production so far that we've actually even been able to formulate or hang off a decline. So it'd be too soon to know. What I will say is that it's basically half a lateral length that's this part of our Clearwater plan is going to be entering delineation, which is the second phase of kind of 4 phases of commerciality, exploration, delineation demonstration and development. And this reservoir, this accumulation is higher pressure than Peavine. Peavine's higher pressure than Nipisi and Marten Hills. We see strong mobility and high recovery. So we're really encouraged by all of that. And I think the other thing that makes this really interesting for us is we have an operating team in place, gas and water handling facilities in place. The proximity to Edmonton and market optionality is really impressive. So for lots of reasons, we're excited about this play. I think the resource itself as a subsurface resource quality is exciting. And there's going to be more to talk about, but I'm actually not sure we have sufficient real data collected yet to actually hang off the decline curve on this well.

Amir Arif

Analyst

Okay. Do you have a sense of the well cost, even if it was just half the lateral in terms of...?

Eric Greager

Analyst

Oh, yes. So well cost is going to be, I would say, CAD 2 million. It’s very much in line with what you would expect at Peavine.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Menno Hulshof of TD Securities.

Menno Hulshof

Analyst

I'll start with the Duvernay. It sounds like completion activity is set to kick off pretty shortly. With that in mind, do you feel like you're still on track to make a decision on how the Duvernay fits in by early 2024?

Eric Greager

Analyst

Yes, we do. So Menno, thanks for the question. We do feel like we're on track. These 2, 3 well pads have gone right to plan. And we're very excited about what we've seen. So data collection doesn't just happen during stimulation and flowback. It also happens during drilling. And we've been -- we've drilled 3 different laterals. We better understand in these areas now 2 pads, 3 -- 3 laterals each of 3 wells each better understand the variability of the reservoir in these areas in terms of drilling quality and things like resistivity and gamma, those formation evaluation data that you collect while drilling. And so we're pretty excited about what we've learned. Again, the actual operation drilling, casing, cementing, the quality of zonal isolation has all gone really, really well, very proud of the team for executing to plan. And we're really excited now. We've got to get breakup behind us, and then we'll put the balance of our design of experiment in the ground through a stimulation, drill out, flowback and we'll have the information we need to better understand and really, I think, expand our characterization and booking across a much larger cross-section of our aerial extent of our Duvernay acreage.

Menno Hulshof

Analyst

Okay. And then just to follow up on the Eagle Ford, what are your options on your non-operated acreage, is status closed still the most likely scenario? Or could we see some adjustments there as well?

Eric Greager

Analyst

Well, I think when you think about kind of what’s going on with our relationship with Marathon. It’s really fantastic. Like we talk to those guys all the time at every level of the operation. We represent a significant portion of working interest in the AMI. And it’s important to us, it’s important to them. I think we represent something like 20 – our production is not nothing relative to Marathon’s production. I think you probably read in their release, I think they produced 144,000 BOE a day out of their Eagle Ford assets on a net basis and in Q1, and we produced 26,000 BOE a day. So that’s not nothing. It’s like 1/5 or 1/6, and that’s pretty meaningful. We have a great relationship with them. We review the data very carefully that we get. They work very well with us, very openly with us. And so – and they’re a very good operator. So we’re happy with the way the asset is performing. And now that we’ve got this Ranger operating capability, very close by, I think what you could expect is that we’ll start working more closely with the Ranger team, who has worked closely in their own right with Marathon in and around the Ranger lands to start increasing our own operated working interest in and around our own lands, and using our working interest in the AMI as a currency that is kind of in short swapping and trading to increase both companies operated working interest. You do so on a dollar value equivalent basis, it’s just good for everyone, right? This is the way operators with large interest in each other’s operation sort of get out of each other’s hair. And given the quality of the relationship and the quality of the resource on both sides, I feel really good about that. So these swaps and trades, I think, are going to be a meaningful part of increasing our operated working interest in exchange for Marathon increasing their operating working interest, and it is going to be good for everyone all the way around. So that’s what I would expect to see is more coordination, more close cooperation, and it’s a great partnership. So we think that’s going to be a good catalyst in the Gulf Coast kind of over time and all the way around.

Operator

Operator

This concludes the question-and-answer session from the phone lines. I'd like to turn the conference back over to Brian Ector for any questions from online.

Brian Ector

Analyst

Okay. Great. Thanks, Ariel. And yes, we do have a couple of questions that have come in via the webcast. And so the first one, I'm going to turn over to Chad Lundberg, our Chief Operating Officer, for a little more color on the economics in the Duvernay. And the question is, what are the IRRs payouts and recycle ratios that we would see in the Duvernay development, maybe at different scenarios of WTI prices, Chad?

Chad Lundberg

Analyst

Great. Thanks, Brian. And this stems to the question from the call earlier. So I'm going to anchor to $70 -- notionally, that's where we sit today. Basically, at $70, we are generating an 80% rate of return about a 3x recycle ratio and 16-month payout. And then if I just think about that high level for flexing it up and down based on oil prices, for every $10 move that West Texas makes, it's about a 30% adjustment on rate of return, up and down, 0.5 turn on recycle ratio and plus/minus 4 months on the payout. I think the bigger picture is just how does that fit into the overall construct of the portfolio. No doubt, Peavine would be the highest rate of returns that we ultimately generate followed by Eagle Ford and Lloydminster, our heavy-oil -- cold flow fairway. The Duvernay slots in quite nicely below that. And then when you extrapolate that 1 step further, just thinking about the grander unconventional resource construct that it's very attractive and competitive rates of return when you look really across North America.

Brian Ector

Analyst

Great. Thanks, Chad. Next question from the webcast, and this is for back to Eric and a little bit more elaborating on the range of assets. Are there meaningful as opposed to incremental opportunities to improve well productivity of the Ranger assets on closing of the merger?

Eric Greager

Analyst

Yes. Thanks, Brian. I appreciate the question. I think there are both incremental and meaningful opportunities. And I think this really kind of speaks to the comment I made earlier, but I'll take it maybe a little bit deeper. When pure-play companies like Ranger and others I've been involved in. When you're moving fast, it's important with smaller scale to stay very, very lean. And when you're moving fast and you're growing the business, you focus on continued execution of the growth program and the growth profile. We're, as I mentioned earlier, stepping back just a little bit, slowing down the pace of growth to fall kind of in line with our low to mid-single digits. And I'll just say as a single number, kind of point to 4% per year organic production growth. And at that pace, it's a little over 2 rigs level loaded throughout the year to get that done. This slowing the pace down a little bit, bringing broader resources from our Canadian enterprise, both in and around Duvernay and also resources that we've been exploring along the way, and combining those with the substantial and impressive performance that Ranger has brought forward in the last couple of years, just since the new management team has been in charge of the assets, that was late '20, and of course, increasing new management through '21 and '22. They have made a substantial improvement in performance. We think there's more that can be done. We think this is at a number of levels. Sometimes, there's a little bit more active geosteering that can take place to reside or live with every foot of the wellbore and the highest quality reservoir. And that's something that can and will be explored using obviously, real-time wild drilling data collection to ensure…

Brian Ector

Analyst

Okay. Eric, another question for you, sort of pro forma Ranger. Can you comment on pro forma free cash flow for the first 12 months following the close of the Ranger acquisition? Generally, what are your expectations?

Eric Greager

Analyst

Yes. So at $75 WTI, which we think is a very reasonable price file, you just take $75 flat out in time, and this is on a combined entity. So I'll also set a benchmark for WCS diff if you use the WCS differential to WTI at $17.50. So $75 is a benchmark TI and $17.50 as the basis dip to WCS. And then you roll the company together pro forma. In the first 4 quarters after close, the combined business will generate $1 billion a year of free cash flow. And that $1 billion a year will be allocated 50% to debt pay down. So that's $500 million per year to debt pay down, and $500 million per year to return of capital to shareholders.

Brian Ector

Analyst

And Eric, this kind of ties into maybe the free cash flow and free cash flow allocation question. But do you believe the current share value reflects our future growth expectations? What will be done to enhance the value of the share price more consistent with that -- with your expectations for the business?

Eric Greager

Analyst

Yes. So implied in the second part of that question is no, I don't think our current share price reflects the value I see in this business. I think we're pretty deeply undervalued. And that is exciting for me because it creates a lot of opportunity for those of us sitting on this call. The way we're going to unlock that potential is through blocking and tackling in the business, finding more in bill, because oil is where oil was in this business sits on 1.7 million net acres of HBP lands. I promise you there's more of that to come. I can simply tell you; we've been engaged in an organic exploration program across all of our lands. And Morinville, is 1 bite of a pretty steady diet. So that's 1 thing. The other part of this that I think is really important is return of capital to shareholders will continue to take up and cancel shares. As we did last year and as we will do increasingly, as this business grows in scale and grows in free cash flow on a per share basis, we'll be able to allocate both more of the absolute free cash flow, and it's a bigger number. And on a per share basis, we'll be able to allocate more of that buyback and cancel those shares. And so there's that natural if you like, upward pressure on all the per share metrics that will make its way through to the share price. And it will take some time for that to happen. But as that happens, there will also be natural appreciation in the share price. And that natural appreciation in the share price just through good execution, blocking and tackling and discovery of assets productive, high-quality profitable assets within our current franchise will add a great deal of sort of real value along the way. And if the share price appreciation doesn't close in on our intrinsic value as it should, that just tells me that there are inefficiencies in the marketplace. That will result in a discount between our intrinsic value and our share price, and we'll buy that discount using our free cash flow generation to do so. I couldn't be more excited about the business. It just had a great deal of capability today. And one of the things about the oil and gas industry globally today, but especially in North America, is the inefficiency is creating opportunities where assets are mispriced -- and materially mispriced. We're one of them, and we're going to take advantage of it by buying back our shares at this discount.

Brian Ector

Analyst

We'll take a couple of more here on the webcast, and we've had a pretty tremendous response to -- adding this to our -- to the quarterly conference call. Eric, are there any meaningful noncore assets that the combined company might be looking to divest? And second part, any meaningful reduction in drilling costs or relaxation of inflationary pressures?

Eric Greager

Analyst

Yes. So I'm going to try to answer the first one, and then I'll pitch the second one to Chad Lundberg. We -- the way we've been thinking about our portfolio, and I'm going to stare out a different slide within our rollout deck because this is one that has been really handy to use in the conversation around our portfolio. And I'm staring at Slide 10. Again, I'm in the Baytex plus Ranger deck if you're in front of your computer. And I like to look at this starting in the lower left panel, which is our portfolio run at $75 WTI. So you'll notice in the footnotes, it's what I described earlier as our benchmark price. And you look at the y-axis, you see Peavine Clearwater, it's spectacular. And you see our Karnes acreage that's the Eagle Ford in orange. And then you see in blue, this is the Ranger Eagle Ford lands. And then as these trails off to the right, the way to think about the portfolio is -- it probably won't be whole asset. So don't think Duvernay as a whole asset or Viking as a whole asset or Lloyd as a whole asset. But think about these areas or Peace River as -- or Eagle Ford as a whole asset. Think about taking each of these assets and disassembling them into packages of -- or tier -- reservoir tier areas, Tier 1, Tier 2, Tier 3. And then think about how kind of Tier 3 assets would perform in a portfolio. They're -- because we're always going to be creaming allocating our capital resources to the highest returns within our portfolio to the extent that those assets can accept -- efficiently accept more capital, and I can expand on that, too. But to the…

Chad Lundberg

Analyst

And just on to the inflationary question. So I'll just anchor everybody to where we are today. So as you recall, we picked up about 25% inflation through to the end of 2022. That's basis the lows through '21. We budgeted '23 with an incremental 5% to that. So net-net, we're running the year at about a 30% overall increase over the past 2 years. We're starting to see some relief in our tangible items, but not really as much in the cost of the services themselves. So for example, casing that nearly doubled through that time period is off about 15% as we sit today. Diesel, another one that climbed quite readily through the time period is off about 35%. So that's providing relief to our overall AFEs. I think in the U.S., we're also seeing some relief with respect to rig rates just notionally with gas, seeing some weakness compared to WTI as well as our frac fleets, not overly meaningful yet, but certainly not the large step changes that we have seen through 2022.

Brian Ector

Analyst

Thanks, Chad. And I'm going to take 2 more questions here. The first one, Eric, is Baytex considering a reverse stock split either before or after the merger with Ranger?

Eric Greager

Analyst

It's a great question. There's a lot to be considered. Stock splits, stock consolidations, these are, by their very nature, neither accretive nor dilutive. It's just arithmetic, right, you're dividing or multiplying to affect a particular targeted share price for reasons related to kind of the large or broad North American investment community and actually even beyond that, U.K. and Europe and so on. But the point is you want to try to attract the broadest possible investment community. And sometimes share prices that are low because total shares outstanding are high, can fall below a certain floor in terms of what funds can buy just based on certain funds criteria. And so that might be a motivation to engage in a stock consolidation, which would take up the share price and take down proportionately the number of shares outstanding. Again, neither accretive nor dilutive, but pretty straightforward arithmetic. We have not spoken with the Board directly formally about that. And so I wouldn't expect it to happen. It will certainly not going to happen in conjunction with the merger or ahead of the merger. So that's not something we're contemplating. We do believe that there is an opportunity. And if you've ever been involved in an IPO, you know that investment bankers spend a great deal of time with their clients targeting or figuring out what is the best initial price. And it's some of the same dimensions that -- of consideration in terms of capital markets that go into this conversation. What I will say in the near-term is we haven't had the conversations with our Board. We do understand some of the capital markets dynamics. If it happened, it would be thoughtful and would be targeted toward a price that might be in the middle of a family of our closest peers in terms of our North American E&P community. So you could almost guess at what that value might be. But again, we have no formal plans to do so.

Brian Ector

Analyst

Okay. Thanks, Eric. And last question for today's call. Your thoughts on crude marketing in the WCS-WTI differential?

Eric Greager

Analyst

Yes. So it has been encouraging to see the WCS-WTI basis differential compress, it has come in some in the last couple of months and even quarter. Q1 actually didn't show it because it's -- some of what was happening was after the formal closing or end of the formal calendar Q1. We anticipate Q2 is going to have a substantially lower basis dip shown in all the numbers. And you'll see this in all of our peers who publish data on Q1 with WCS exposure. TMX is going to help. There's just no question about that. When you add inch miles of egress to a producing region like WCSB, there's just no question that's going to help. We don't have -- we are not an anchor tenant. We don't have firm transport on TMX. But because the egress is increasing out of the basin, we think WCS-WTI is probably heading toward the pipeline economics defined by the mainline to the Gulf Coast. And so pipe economics to the Gulf Coast are in the $10 to $12 range. We think that's probably the equilibrium price over time. There will be opportunities where it dips lower for reasons that are unique in time and location. We'll try to capture those. But we're definitely watching the marketplace, watching TMX progress, watching line fill, expect and understand that to be taking place in Q4. And then TMX, best we understand it, should be flowing in Q1, Q2. So this kind of defines the way we're thinking about it, but we do think it's headed toward pipe economics to the Gulf Coast. And that should define the WCS basis dip over time.

Brian Ector

Analyst

Okay. Great. Eric, thank you for that. And operator, thank you. Thanks, everyone, for participating on the phone lines and via the webcast today, and this will conclude our first quarter conference call. Have a great day.

Eric Greager

Analyst

Thank you, everyone.

Operator

Operator

This concludes today's conference call. You may disconnect your lines. Thank you for participating, and have a pleasant day.