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Bentley Systems, Incorporated (BSY)

Q1 2023 Earnings Call· Sat, May 13, 2023

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Eric Boyer

Management

Good morning and thank you for joining Bentley Systems' Q1 2023 Operating Results. I'm Eric Boyer, Bentley's Investor Relations Officer. On the webcast today, we have Bentley Systems' Chief Executive Officer, Greg Bentley; Chief Operating Officer, Nicholas Cumins; and Chief Financial Officer, Werner Andre. This webcast includes forward-looking statements made as of May 9th, 2023, regarding the future results of operations and financial position, business strategy and plans, and objectives for future operations of Bentley Systems Incorporated. All such statements made in or containing during this webcast, other than statements of historical fact, are forward-looking statements. This webcast will be available for replay on Bentley Systems' Investor Relations website at investors.bentley.com. After our presentation, we will conclude with Q&A. Just a quick administrative matter before we begin. You can now find our 2022 annual report along with the CEO letter and our inaugural ESG report on our Investor Relations website. And with that, let me introduce the CEO of Bentley Systems, Greg Bentley.

Greg Bentley

Management

Good morning and thanks to each of you for your interest and attention. With the retirement of our Chief Investment Officer, David Hollister, and the division of his responsibilities among the rest of us, our presentation sequence starting this quarter is meant to be simpler and more concise. I will offer observations about directions in our business, we'll report on corporate developments, and provide updates on our capital allocation. Then Chief Operating Officer, Nicholas Cumins, will provide expanded operating perspectives, now including in my stead, tone of business by sector and commercial model as well as by region and by brand. CFO, Werner Andre, will conclude with our financial performance, as usual. Robust operating results for 2023 Q1 echo what I think has come to be expected of Bentley Systems end market resilience, predictably accretive business model, and the consistency of our execution and thankfully, absent last year's unfavorable drama in Russia and China. We met or surpassed expectations for our financial performance metrics, most significantly including operating margins measured now by adjusted operating income with stock-based compensation. Our operating cash flows were even higher than expected, but as Werner will explain, we expect consistency here on a trailing 12-month basis. As Nicholas will elaborate, all operating trends remain directionally strong. And as he will explain, even though this year has started appreciably better in China than in other recent years, that probably will serve to accelerate our intentional localization pivot there at some increasing cost to existing ARR. All considered, our across-the-board strength in 2023 Q1 duly increases our confidence in our annual financial outlook for 2023. And as to what I consider our key metric, ARR growth, indeed, this expanded sequentially to a first quarter high of 13% year-over-year constant currency business performance, with net revenue retention over…

Nicholas Cumins

Management

Thank you, Greg. We had a strong start to 2023 and we see momentum continuing into Q2 with healthy pipelines and many upgrade and expansion opportunities. The demand environment continues to be very positive and the pace of business is at risk. Incrementally, we see more evidence of funds from infrastructure investment programs flowing through to our accounts around the world, and this will continue to be a tailwind for the foreseeable future. Let me now provide some color commentary starting with infrastructure sectors. The trends in Q1 were consistent quarter-over-quarter. We saw very strong growth in resources, strong growth in public works and utilities, solid growth in the industrial sector, with commercial facilities somewhat flat. We continue to hear from some accounts, concerns about interest rates and inflation. But in Q1, there were no surprises. Horizontal infrastructure remains very resilient. Turning to commercial models. Our E365 and Virtuosity growth initiatives continued their upward inflection. In Q1, we upgraded to E365 almost twice the number of accounts than we did in Q1 of 2022. Bear in mind, however, that the accounts remaining to be upgraded tend to be those with low ARR to start with. Over the last three years, we have grown E365 primarily with global enterprise accounts, and we increasingly view the regional mid-market as a significant opportunity for E365. We were excited to upgrade to E365 a number of regional mid-market accounts in Q1, and we are on pace to hit our target for the year. As you know, E365 is a consumption-based commercial model and post-upgrade, our user success teams paid particular attention to the adoption of our software through success blueprints that are designed to achieve business outcomes through more efficient and effective use of digital delivery workflows. Q1 was a very strong quarter in…

Werner Andre

Management

Thank you, Nicholas. We are pleased that we started the year strong, which puts us in a good position to achieve our established full year outlook. I'm starting with a reminder of our full year 2023 revenue outlook as was provided during our year end 2022 operating results call with a range of $1,205 million to $1,235 million, representing GAAP revenue growth of 9.5% to 12.5% or 10.5% to 13.5% on a constant currency basis. Total revenues for the first quarter were $314 million, up 14% year-over-year while 17% on a constant currency basis. For the quarter, subscription revenues grew 15% year-over-year or 18% in constant currency and represented 88% of our total revenues. The onboarding of Power Line Systems at the end of January 2022 accounts for about two percentage points of this improvement, and the continued upgrades of our enterprise accounts to our consumption-based E365 program is moving us towards a more ratable allocation of GAAP revenues between calendar quarters, which benefited the first quarter on a year-over-year comparative basis. Regarding our perpetual licenses, recent trends continue, which are reflective of our focus on recurring subscription revenues. Our professional services revenues benefited from the acquisition of Vetasi, which we acquired within our Cohesive Digital Integrator Group in 2022 Q4. With regards to foreign exchange rates, the U.S. dollar has weakened relative to the exchange rates assumed in our 2023 annual financial outlook. While the impact during 2023 Q1 was not significant, if end of April exchange rates would prevail for the remainder of the year, our full year GAAP revenues would be positively impacted by approximately $10 million relative to the revenues based on the exchange rates assumed in our full year 2023 outlook. Moving on to our recurring revenue performance. Our last 12 months recurring revenues increased…

A - Eric Boyer

Operator

We'll now move to the Q&A portion of our call. We ask each analyst to please limit themselves to one question only so we can get to everybody today. Our first question will come from Kristen Owen from Oppenheimer.

Kristen Owen

Analyst

Thank you. I wanted to ask first about Seequent because that just continues to be a business that outperforms our expectations. And as an outside observer, you might look at that business and think, well, mining, geothermal, these are capital-intensive businesses. So, why are they holding up so well? And if I could ask you to talk a little bit about what's sustaining growth in that segment and maybe where we are in terms of untapping some of the revenue synergies between the legacy customer bases there? Thank you.

Greg Bentley

Management

I might start. The reasons are secular reasons, the world's priority on energy transition and electrification require the mining activities and that's got a long runway ahead, I believe. Much of our purpose in bringing the subsurface digital twin into our realm is the synergies with civil engineering projects and subsurface infrastructure conditions, and that's proceeding as well. It's just not nearly so visible in the numbers as is the momentum in mining. Nicholas, would you like to add?

Nicholas Cumins

Management

Yes. So, Seequent is indeed maintaining a high level of growth. And it is fair to say that it's a rather diversified business. The majority of the growth is still in mining, and the market conditions remain really favorable in mining. So, despite some short-term volatility on some prices, the mining companies are looking and using long-term price assumptions to decide whether they're going to open up new mines or expand existing mines. And those assumptions are positive. So, they're still investing. But indeed, Seequent is involved in more than mining. One of the main reasons why they were so excited to be part of Bentley was to accelerate their growth in civil. And I will say, for most of 2022, our focus was still more on the back-office integration with Seequent, and our focus has shifted to the front-office synergies, the business synergies, in particular with civil. So now all the Seequent -- relevant Seequent products for civil engineering are available to our E365 accounts. And in Q1, we've seen a nice uptick of those products. It's still early, of course, but it's looking very promising.

Greg Bentley

Management

And finally, just a reminder that the consumption of the Seequent software in mining is more to do with the OpEx throughput of mines than the CapEx, necessarily, of Newmont.

Eric Boyer

Management

Thanks, Kristen. Our next question will come from Matt Hedberg from RBC.

Matt Hedberg

Analyst

Hey, guys. Good morning. Thanks for taking my question. And I appreciate the format this quarter. It was super helpful. Greg, you spent some time talking about the importance of China, which I think we all appreciate. Maybe I missed it, but could you talk maybe about some of the expected ARR headwinds this year? I don't know if you can quantify that. And then, perhaps, even more so, once the JVs are in place, what sort of tailwind do you think that could provide at some point in the future?

Greg Bentley

Management

Well, it's toughest to know, so I say the unpredictability in China. The rest of our business is so predictable, and the trends are so prevailing that China is, by far, the contrast. As far as ARR in China, the rest of our business is an ARR-intensive business, but China increasingly is not an ARR-intensive country. They prefer perpetual licenses. There is not the ability to have SaaS software there. And we're going increasingly indirect. All of those are factors that will literally reduce our ARR. And so as to the significance of China for our overall financial outlook for this year, recall that over each of the past two years, in each of those years, we have lost more than a full percent of our overall ARR in China. Partially, that's the rest of the world growing. Partially, that's currency weakness in China. But it's mainly state-owned enterprises and geopolitical headwinds. To do the right thing for the long-term, which is always our focus, not the short-term, we are pivoting to this localization strategy. But it's only going to mean that everything else benefits, not ARR, and we literally will lose existing ARR the better that goes, as Nicholas said. Now, how fast will it turn around to where we have higher unit volume to make up for that? And by the way, we make up for it on other line items than ARR. Well, that is really hard to say. But we are really hopeful about it. And the reason I wanted to show that China is 27% of the engineering activity by even just the largest identifiable firms, is to reinforce the magnitude of -- their engineers are great users of our software here and now if we can get that to them, overcoming the geopolitical obstacles.

Eric Boyer

Management

Thanks, Matt. Our next question will come from Joe Vruwink from Robert W. Baird.

Joe Vruwink

Analyst

Great. Hi, everyone. Yes, I think this might be the first quarter where you've explicitly commented on the connection between IIJA, DoTs being funded, and now your related product seeing a consumption benefit. So, I guess my question is, what is your expectation here in North America as just more projects are undertaken through 2023 and even, it should be the case, into 2024? And then, maybe not to lead you in any direction, but it seems like water and the electric utilities could maybe be the next big areas to see a step up, if road and bridge are seeing it right now.

Greg Bentley

Management

Yes, I think especially the uptick we remain to not have seen yet in IIJA is in this other half of the money, besides the transportation money, and that really is making progress, but is not equivalently flowing, as is the case with the road, and bridge, and transit funding already. Nicholas, do you want to add to that?

Nicholas Cumins

Management

We are indeed seeing the budget of the DoTs are growing quite a bit, and this is obviously related to IIJA. And this allows them to fully fund projects where software is being used. A good example is the Brent Spence Bridge between Kentucky and Ohio. So, this is where we're seeing now the first impact of IIJA. But we're just starting, right? It's a growing tailwind, and it's going to get stronger. We are seeing a more direct link when it comes to transportation, indeed, but exactly as you were saying, Joe, we just have to look at IIJA and where they're planning the funding. And we know that it will come, as well, when it comes to the water infrastructure and when it comes to the electric grid.

Joe Vruwink

Analyst

Thank you.

Greg Bentley

Management

Just to add that they are permitting legislation in Congress now in the U.S., which would help to catalyze faster spending, especially for electric transmission and distribution, among many energy projects. But the ones that are really teed up that would we make a big difference for us are in the transmission and distribution of electricity.

Eric Boyer

Management

Thanks, Joe. Next question will come from Jason Celino from KeyBanc.

Jason Celino

Analyst

Great. Good morning gentlemen. Thanks for fitting me in. I think my one question, I think I'll just focus on commercial facilities. I guess, in the quarter, did you see any headwind there? And then, I guess, for the second half, do you embed maybe some extra conservatism to the ARR guide? Thanks.

Greg Bentley

Management

Well, I think our word was flat, which, of course, could be worse and we hope it won't get worse. But, Nicholas, do you want to add on that?

Nicholas Cumins

Management

We remain very cautious because we attribute the flat growth to the market conditions. And we assume it is related to the, let's say, general underutilization of vertical infrastructure and the high interest rate environment, which is not favorable for new projects. Now, remember that it's a very small percentage of our ARR. It's a one, single-digit, now, percentage of our ARR. But it was flat last quarter. We saw it flat again this quarter. We remain cautious.

Jason Celino

Analyst

Okay, great. Appreciate the color. Thank you.

Eric Boyer

Management

Thanks, Jason. Our next question will come from Joshua Tilton from Wolfe.

Joshua Tilton

Analyst

Hey, guys. Can you hear me?

Greg Bentley

Management

Yes.

Joshua Tilton

Analyst

Great. Thanks for taking my question. I wanted to go back to the IIJA dollars and the DoTs, maybe just how has the competitive landscape within the DoTs changed since the last time we had an infrastructure bill or some type of funding to this level? And do you feel like there are more hands maybe trying to grab at the pie this time around? And how do you ensure that maybe you can take a similar share of the funding, as you have done previously?

Greg Bentley

Management

Well, I think our share of work done by DoTs, and in every five or six-year bill, more and more relatively of their work is done in their supply chain and the engineering firms as they source more and more of it. We think that's been to our general benefit, as we focus more on this. Something to be said is, however, is that, in the current environment of constraints on engineering capacity and with the IIJA money in each state, there's pressure on the DoTs, to be sure, to spread that money around to include the smaller firms and disadvantaged firms. And in many cases, they have only done site civil engineering work with other competitive software. So, there's pressure on the DoTs to be sure to include those new smaller firms to get some of this IIJA work. We think that's ultimately good for us because those firms will want to take a look at Bentley software and how they can increase their DoT work with specialization on Bentley software as well. And we have programs to help them contractually be introduced to our software. But it's all hands on deck to meet this capacity constraint for the DoTs competitively.

Joshua Tilton

Analyst

Thanks.

Eric Boyer

Management

Our next question will come from Matthew Broome from Mizuho Group.

Matthew Broome

Analyst

Hi, everyone. Thanks for taking my question. Could you maybe just talk about your current M&A priorities and how you view the current landscape there?

Greg Bentley

Management

Well, we still have white space to fill. And I think our acquisition of EasyPower earlier this year is a great example for some specialized electrical analysis that, if you like, is on the facility side of the meter, and plants, and major infrastructure installations. It had been something where the electrical modeling was often done in other software. It wasn't integrated, and now, it can all be done increasingly in Bentley software without semantic translations and so forth. It will improve the quality and speed. Its electrical modeling is never done in a plant or installation because the controls are constantly changing, even when the rest of the capital remains the same. So, that's just an example of an appropriate programmatic acquisition. The thing is, you can't, even though we say programmatic, it can't quite be expected and scheduled out. And as you know, we've had fewer and smaller programmatic acquisitions over the last year and a half now, for no particular reason. To start with, some of it, I think, had to do with valuation or business owners waiting for better valuation. But we have a reasonable pipeline and are approaching it no differently than ever. The results turn out to be a little episodic, but that's the nature of the beast in M&A, I think.

Matthew Broome

Analyst

Got it. Thanks very much.

Eric Boyer

Management

Thanks Matthew. Next question comes from Andrew DeGasperi from Berenberg Capital Markets.

Andrew DeGasperi

Analyst

Thanks for taking my question. I guess if I were to look at the growth for the rest of the year, in terms of the consumption-based accounts versus Virtuosity, do you think we still will see the same typical pattern that we've seen? In other words, we see a seasonal slower Q2 with the ramp-up for the rest of the year. And then, do you think the balance between the two will change in any way?

Greg Bentley

Management

Well, Virtuosity, the experience we have is only over the last couple of years, and it only gets bigger every quarter. There's a bit of a higher seasonality in Q4. But otherwise, I think it's stand back and watch that continue to flourish. In consumption, of course, we can measure consumption historically as the -- but historically, our revenues in ARR haven't depended as much on consumption as they do now, given E365 has become our largest commercial program. So, we're learning more about that as we study it more. And as I mentioned, after 2022 Q4, a Q4 has more holidays in it. There are fewer days of work. There are fewer days of consumption, therefore. Q1 doesn't have that problem. And then the other quarters, you can make a science of where do the holidays fall and so forth. We haven't applied ourselves to that yet. But subject to the holiday calendar effect, which can be a couple of percent, if you think of a day within a quarter that has 60 workdays or so, it can matter. But subject to that, we certainly think everyone's as busy as they can be. And our success teams, especially, are there helping to introduce new, more specialized applications and digital workflows, especially. So, I hope we look back at this year and see a continued increase in application-mix accretion. And my reason to show that, even in the top firms, only $1.41 per hour is what's spent on our applications now is to show how much more potential there is to help them be more productive, for the reasons Nicholas talked about, by using more specialized software. We have that specialized software. We just need to be introducing those to the success teams.

Eric Boyer

Management

Thanks Andrew. The next question comes from Jay Vleeschhouwer from Griffin Securities.

Jay Vleeschhouwer

Analyst

Thank you. Good morning. Nicholas, in your prepared remarks regarding pipeline, could you talk about how that's being manifested in terms of demand for multi-solution sales across the portfolio, and as well for the demand for your services and consulting support via Cohesive, for example, are you having to invest incrementally in your services and implementation capacity? Thank you.

Nicholas Cumins

Management

We are strengthening the solution dimension in our go-to market. And by solution, we mean how different products and the combination of products and services helped solve specific issues of user's accounts in specific industries. So, as we do this, especially for our key growth industries, then, yes, all conversations are multi-product, are cutting across product and services. Now, the beauty of something like Enterprise 365 is once you're on that program, it goes very quickly from a conversation about solution that cuts across products to adopting and using those products because we removed all the friction in order to purchase the software, in order to access the services that are needed, in order to implement, configure, integrate the software that you need.

Greg Bentley

Management

And I guess what I would add is in our applications, they can be added one at a time, one day at a time, one user at a time, and end up being multi-product on a project that way. But our enterprise solutions, ProjectWise and AssetWise, are typically procurement cycles involving RFPs, often involving Cohesive to help with integration and so forth. Both sales motions at once are important, the incremental evolutionary increase in depth of applications and adding new users of ProjectWise and AssetWise. And I sort of showed how ProjectWise is used extensively by the top firms, but not by all the top firms, and we have many more opportunities there, and implementation and digital integrator services are needed. And we want to be leading the way in helping ultimately to recruit new digital integrators among the engineering firms themselves to help the owner-operators. And we're learning to do it better through Cohesive, which is now part of Nicholas' remit this year as well.

Eric Boyer

Management

Thanks, Jay. Our next question will come from Blair Abernethy from Rosenblatt Securities.

Blair Abernethy

Analyst

Thanks. Good morning. I just wanted to see if we could get a little more color on the Virtuosity side of things. It sounds like you had record logos, new logos out of this quarter. Where are you seeing these? What sort of verticals or geographic areas are you seeing strength? Are you seeing any weaknesses in any areas? Just a little more color on that would be helpful.

Greg Bentley

Management

Nicholas?

Nicholas Cumins

Management

Yes, we have more than 700 new logos through Virtuosity this quarter. It is our record quarter, and the momentum is very strong. It correlates with where we're growing as a company overall. It correlates nicely actually with, for example, the commentary I gave on the regions. You will see, let's say, a rate of similar growth when it comes to Virtuosity. One thing that is interesting is we're growing not only with accounts in isolation, we are also growing and winning accounts in the context of those very large projects. So, a good example is in India, for example, where our software is being used by large engineering firms, owners, operators, in charge of massive water projects that are funded by the National Infrastructure Pipeline. This is actually pulling a lot of smaller engineering firms in their ecosystem to use our software. So, we're getting smarter and smarter about how we play the dynamics of the full ecosystem in order to win not just the large organizations, but the smaller ones that are part of that. And when we do that, we do it through Virtuosity.

Greg Bentley

Management

And I'll add that in China, where we mentioned things having stabilized in the past quarter, Virtuosity practitioner subscriptions are doing well in China. Now, these, I think, are being acquired obviously not by the big state-owned enterprises, but by the ecosystem in China. So, we go where we can go in a very large market. And even though, overall, China is characterized by preferring perpetual licenses, by preferring large enterprise commercial programs, it's such a large market that we even can grow in Virtuosity there.

Eric Boyer

Management

Thanks. Our next question will come from Matt Martino from Goldman Sachs.

Matt Martino

Analyst

Hey, guys. Matt on for Kash here. Greg, India continues to perform very well. Can you just further characterize the strength you're seeing in the region from an end market and application perspective? Thanks.

Greg Bentley

Management

Well, it tends to vary from quarter to quarter between Northern and Central and Southern Europe, but I'm going to ask Nicholas to comment on that, sitting in Europe, as he is doing. However, one thing I will remark upon is if you look in our 10-Q, you'll see very high year-over-year revenue growth in Europe, which doesn't correspond to our commentary on ARR. And that has to do with 606 GAAP vagaries that come and go. So, it's doing well, but there was an outsized revenue growth there that isn't nearly so fundamental. But can you break it down for us, Nicholas, in Europe?

Nicholas Cumins

Management

I will say, if we look at Q1, the main growth drivers where we saw the strongest growth were in transportation and with rail projects, in particular, and then in industrial with EPCs and automotive. That's for Q1, but in general, what we're seeing is a really positive impact of the EU infrastructure plans. The first one that came to force is the NextGeneration EU. And we estimate that about 20% of the funding has been released, and that goes straight to projects where our software is being used. In the preparatory remarks, I mentioned, for example, the water projects in Italy. There are rail projects as well in Italy where our software is being used, and they're funded by the EU. And then, there's a new plan that got fully adopted now called the Repower EU plan. It is about ensuring energy security, which is top of mind, as you can imagine, in Europe. It's also about accelerating energy transition. It was discussed a while back, but it was fully adopted in February. And we expect that to become a tailwind as well because it plays to our strengths.

Eric Boyer

Management

Thanks, Matt. Our last question today will come from Michael Funk from Bank of America.

Michael Funk

Analyst

Hey, all. How are you doing?

Greg Bentley

Management

Cheers, Mike.

Michael Funk

Analyst

Yes. Thank you for the question. What if I could -- so, on the leverage, Greg, you highlighted earlier your own calculation for a net debt to EBITDA adjusting for the convert. How does it affect your view on funding acquisitions and debt capacity?

Greg Bentley

Management

Well, our compass is set so that we'll continue to de-lever. Werner quantified that, about a 0.5 times de-levering in the first quarter alone. Now, the first quarter is our strong cash flow quarter, so we're -- in the gear we're in, we'll continue to de-lever. And I regard that that's not imperative as if we're, in fact, over-levered, but it will help us to be opportunistic, as you suggest, for M&A opportunities, if the programmatic opportunities come closer together or would get somewhat larger. And, of course, we can't anticipate a platform acquisition, but they have come along, so they could come along again. And we would like to be well positioned to that, with less leverage than we have at the moment. So, it's not an urgent matter to de-lever, but it's a sensible thing to do, to be better prepared for M&A opportunities. And in the meantime, we continue with our increased dividend this year and with our commitment to, more or less, repurchase equity and/or convertibles to offset our stock-based compensation, which we're on track with so far this year. But I just generally feel comfortable with our leverage situation, among things, because our interest rates are either low or offset by our swap to the extent of 85% of the debt we have now. And I did want to bring attention to the way we think about it so that a balanced view, the thing about convertibles is they're either going to get converted or they're not, and we have to be ready for either situation. But such is the magnitude that they bear in relation to our cash flow, that I think we can be comfortable with that.

Michael Funk

Analyst

And, Greg, previously, I think you mentioned private market valuations are relatively elevated. Are you seeing those come down at all as you evaluate targets?

Greg Bentley

Management

I think somewhat. Yes. But, Nicholas, the portfolio development, the programmatic acquisitions now are within your remit. Do you have a sounding on the market for that?

Nicholas Cumins

Management

No, I don't have anything special to say here.

Greg Bentley

Management

Do you know, Michael, our iTwin Ventures? That's a startup market. Of course, we're all on the investment committee for that. And my goodness, the private valuations have certainly been affected in that early stage. In the mature firms that we're acquiring in our programmatic program, yes, I think there is some improvement in the balance of power to the purchaser. And I don't think valuations are quite an issue now. It's availability and fitness that is determining our programmatic acquisition pace.

Michael Funk

Analyst

Great. Thank you all for the time.

Eric Boyer

Management

Thanks Michael. That concludes our call today. We thank each of you for your interest and time in Bentley Systems and look forward to updating you on our progress in coming quarters.

Greg Bentley

Management

Cheers.