Operator
Operator
Good day, and welcome to the Brixmor Property Group First Quarter 2020 Earnings Conference Call. Today's conference is being recorded. At this time, I'd like to turn the call over to Stacy Slater. Please go ahead, ma'am.
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Operator
Operator
Good day, and welcome to the Brixmor Property Group First Quarter 2020 Earnings Conference Call. Today's conference is being recorded. At this time, I'd like to turn the call over to Stacy Slater. Please go ahead, ma'am.
Stacy Slater
Management
Thank you, operator, and thank you all for joining Brixmor's first quarter conference call. With me on the call today are Jim Taylor, Chief Executive Officer and President; and Angela Aman, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer; as well as Mark Horgan, Executive Vice President and Chief Investment Officer; and Brian Finnegan, Executive Vice President, Leasing, who will be available for Q&A. Before we begin, let me remind everyone that some of our comments today may contain forward-looking statements that are based on certain assumptions and are subject to inherent risks and uncertainties as described in our SEC filings and actual future results may differ materially. We assume no obligation to update any forward-looking statements. Also, we will refer today to certain non-GAAP financial measures. Further information regarding our use of these measures and reconciliations of these measures to our GAAP results are available in the earnings release and supplemental disclosure on the Investor Relations portion of our website. Given the number of participants on the call, we kindly ask that you limit your questions to one or two per person. If you have additional questions regarding the quarter, please re-queue. At this time, it's my pleasure to introduce Jim Taylor.
Jim Taylor
Management
Thank you, Stacy and thanks to all of you for joining our first quarter call. I trust that each of you and your families are safe. I'm grateful to report that the Brixmor team has no known cases of COVID-19, although, tragically, some of our team have lost family members and loved ones. Needless to say, we are beyond grateful to those on the front-lines fighting the virus from the first responders, to the healthcare workers, to importantly those of our essential tenants who've remained open throughout the crisis to ensure that we all have essential supplies. Thank you. Given the events of the last several weeks, this first quarter, which would typically predominate our discussion, seems like a distant memory. While that's the case, it's important to understand the first quarter's performance in the context of our business going forward. As has been the case for the last four years, we continue to deliver industry-leading leasing volumes and spreads and value-added reinvestments. We signed 1.4 million of new and renewal leases at average cash-on-cash spreads of 10% overall and 24% for new leases. We delivered $41 million of reinvestment projects at an average incremental return of 11%, significantly beating our pro forma. We produced 3% same-store NOI growth or over 4% before taking reserves for COVID-19 into account. And perhaps most importantly, we ended the quarter with $43 million of signed but not commenced ABR, which we expect to commence over the next six to eight quarters, as well as a significant pipeline of new leases and LOIs that we expect to execute upon as we move to the other side of this crisis. Simply put these results underscore our confidence that our platform is built to handle this disruption. In early March, as the outlines of the pandemic…
Angela Aman
Management
Thanks, Jim and good morning. I will briefly walk through our first quarter results before discussing the important steps we have taken over the last several weeks with respect to our liquidity profile and balance sheet positioning. Despite a macroeconomic backdrop today that looks very different than the one where we're operating in for the majority of the first quarter, the results we reported last night do serve to emphasize the strength of our portfolio and platform. NAREIT FFO in the first quarter was $0.46 per share and same property NOI growth was 3%, driven by a 400 basis point contribution from base rent. These results reflect additional reserves taken in light of COVID-19 with respect to certain nonessential watch list tenants based on a comprehensive financial and liquidity review. These reserves are included in both revenues deemed uncollectable and straight line rents, totaling $2.6 million and $3.8 million respectively. Absent these reserves, same property NOI growth would have been 4.3% and NAREIT FFO would have been $0.48 per share. These are outstanding results that speak directly to the successful execution of the business plan we laid out several years ago. Focused on transforming our portfolio of well located neighborhood and community shopping centers through strategic reinvestment intended to drive growth and long-term value. Across every facet of our business, we believe that the steps we've taken over the last several years to strengthen the portfolio and the platform have dramatically improved our ability to navigate this period of disruption. Specifically, as we've executed on our reinvestment and capital recycling plans, we've also worked to create a balance sheet that could weather any storm. We reduced leverage ratios and improved coverage metrics, but also importantly extended the way that average duration of our debt maturities and reduced our reliance on…
Operator
Operator
Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Craig Schmidt of Bank of America.
Craig Schmidt
Analyst
Thank you. I was wondering, was there any difference in April rent collections by geography?
Jim Taylor
Management
Craig, it's Jim. Actually we were struck that it was pretty well balanced with each of our four regions being pretty close to what we've reported overall. If there was any region that was impacted slightly more than the others, it would be the Northeast, which certainly was the region more impacted by the virus, but it's a slight difference.
Craig Schmidt
Analyst
Okay. And then I just – I'm assuming you've seen in some of your markets the easy notes, the mandated closings on nonessential tenants. I just wonder what has the consumer's reaction to those more discretionary retailers in terms of consumer acceptance?
Jim Taylor
Management
Well, I think as you've seen in the general media and we've certainly seen it with our openings. Folks are being cautious. Some leases particularly does that provide pickup and delivery have been more prominent, but we have started to see rapid reopenings across the portfolio in those jurisdictions where the restrictions have been lifted, be it, Colorado, Georgia, now in Texas. But I do think that you're seeing the consumers continuing to be careful, as they should be. And I think our tenants also responding in a way to provide their customers with a safe experience, which I think is going to be critical over the next few months.
Craig Schmidt
Analyst
Thank you.
Jim Taylor
Management
You bet.
Operator
Operator
Our next question comes from Todd Thomas with KeyBanc Capital Markets.
Jim Taylor
Management
Hey, Todd.
Todd Thomas
Analyst · KeyBanc Capital Markets.
Hi. Thanks. Good morning. Jim, you spoke about the forward leasing pipeline in terms of seeing demand from central retailers and others that want to be closer to their customers. Can you just describe what you're seeing there in a little bit more detail around that demand?
Jim Taylor
Management
I'd be happy to, but maybe Brian, I can turn it over to you.
Brian Finnegan
Analyst · KeyBanc Capital Markets.
Yes, Todd, it's a great question. One of the things that's been exciting for us, just in terms of some upside during this period has been the fact that many of these essential businesses continue to move leases forward and actually continue to sign leases. Think about it, at the end of the third quarter, while our leasing certainly moderated a bit, the team was able to sign 38 leases and almost 250,000 square feet in March, 60% of that within the last two weeks when we were effectively shut down. So if you think of the categories like grocery, value, personal electronics, which we still continue to sign leases with and then QSR restaurants, we've been pleased with the pipeline. We certainly do expect it to moderate a bit and many of those tenants who we had large pipelines with had taken a bit of a pause, but Jim did mention the pipeline in his opening remarks for a reason. It's actually up 25% from the end of last quarter. So many of those deals that were moving towards execution have simply been put on hold, even for those non-essential retailers that haven't opened yet. So, while we do expect it to be a little choppy, we are pleased with the activity that we're continuing to see during the slowdown here.
Jim Taylor
Management
Yes. And I think, Todd, importantly, it puts us in a position, particularly with respect to those leases in the pipeline to ramp up pretty quickly. And, as I alluded to in my remarks and Brian, we did as well, we are actually seeing new essential uses, new types of grocers, as well as certain tenants that are fleeing products that aren't close to the consumer. And, those were trends that we've been talking about for the last several quarters. I think you're going to only see that accelerate in favor of open air retail.
Todd Thomas
Analyst · KeyBanc Capital Markets.
Okay. And then I guess sort of following up on that a little bit, maybe thinking about grocery specifically, right. We've seen store shift to curbside pick-up and do a lot more delivery than ever before. And those trends have really accelerated meaningfully here over the last two years, last two months, sorry. Do you have sort of a view on how grocery will look going forward? We've seen grocers, resort to testing all types of concepts and strategies since March, whether it's in the traditional store itself with micro-fulfillment using dark stores for curbside and delivery only. To you have a view on what might materialize going forward here and how that might impact your portfolio and shopping centers more generally?
Jim Taylor
Management
Yes, I think that the curbside pickup and delivery is something that's here to stay. I think that the consumer adoption of it has been incredibly strong and I think it's also a profitable format for the grocers, because the customer still carries the cost at the last mile. I think what the groceries have seen is also that their average basket sizes have increased markedly. So I think that you will see to what you were alluding to, some of the store formats begin to change a little bit and also the grocers looking at their footprints and designating more spades within those footprints for micro-fulfillment, where I think we stand very well to benefit from that trend is both our relationships and market share with some of the grocers who are leading in that area. But also the low rent basis that we have and the flexibility generally speaking that we have in the format itself to accommodate those changes. I think that the other thing that this disruption has pointed out is actually the importance of the proximity to the customer. And flaws in the overall logistics pipeline that really get dealt with when you're able to have a significant amount of inventory near where the customer is. So I think all of those things are going to accelerate some of the changes in the grocer format. I think we stand pretty well positioned, given our relationships with the grocers and importantly, given our low rent basis and the flexible nature of our assets.
Todd Thomas
Analyst · KeyBanc Capital Markets.
Okay. Thank you.
Operator
Operator
Our next question comes from Samir Khanal with Evercore ISI.
Samir Khanal
Analyst · Evercore ISI.
Yes, good morning. Hey Jim, sorry if I missed this, I joined late, did you provide any early color on sort of May collection at this point?
Jim Taylor
Management
I haven't. What I can tell you is that month-to-date, we're sitting pretty well, a little better than we were in April, but we do expect that to moderate as I mentioned in our comments, or in the opening comments. We are negotiating rent deferrals where we see value in doing so. So, with those tenants that we have negotiated rent deferrals with, there may be only partial payments in May. So, I feel good about where we are month-to-date, in fact, I think we're ahead of where a lot of people were for the entire month of April. But do I expect to be where we were in April? Probably not, I think it's going to moderate a bit.
Samir Khanal
Analyst · Evercore ISI.
Okay. And I guess shifting gears a little bit. On the leases that you have signed in March, I mean, what are sort of tenants asking for in these leases today that maybe you aren't seeing, let's say six months ago kind of pre-COVID? I'm trying to understand if there's any kind of COVID language attached in these leases, so just trying to get a sense of that.
Jim Taylor
Management
Well, I'll let Brian comment on this. But as you could imagine, of course tenants are looking as they negotiate leases to have some type of protection as it relates to future pandemics. But we've been taking a pretty hard line with it and importantly have not had to as of this moment sign any such provision. But as we look forward, we certainly expected, and Brian, maybe you can comment on our approach.
Brian Finnegan
Analyst · Evercore ISI.
Yes. It’s a great question. And in terms of the leases that we signed in March, really weren't as much addressing it there, as much as just looking at the build-out periods. So there were some adjustments maybe 30, 45 days in those, but weren't exactly COVID specific. And as Jim mentioned, we are starting to see it a bit, it's pretty clear in our leases today that the tenant has the obligation to pay rent. We do expect this to come up with retailers and I think our guiding principle, and I think it's going to be – if and when we do address this, it's look, acknowledge that they own the money like they do today. Limit the duration of really any type of deferral and then paid back within a reasonable time. And that's how we're going to approach these going forward. And again, those will be exceptions, not the rule, because today we'd taken a pretty hard line on it.
Operator
Operator
And we'll go next to Ki Bin Kim of SunTrust.
Ki Bin Kim
Analyst
Thanks. Good morning.
Jim Taylor
Management
Good morning.
Ki Bin Kim
Analyst
So you guys have about 10 – good morning. So you have about 10% of your leases expiring through 2020 expires or month-to-month. How are you thinking about addressing some of these leases? Because I could imagine that during these times, there's probably some hesitancy for long releases from both your perspective and from the tenants as well.
Jim Taylor
Management
Yes. We've really actually gotten after that pretty well Ki Bin, it certainly is an appropriate thing to be focused on. But we have very little as a percent of our overall rent remaining, that needs to be taken care of as we move through the year. And I think part of the reason for that honestly is that, these tenants are making money in our spaces and they expect to make money in these stores as they move forward. And it really more than anything else, points to the importance of low occupancy costs. We've talked about it for 16 quarters since we've been here. If this crisis points to anything, it's that tenants are more than ever going to be focused on the profitability of their stores. So while you quote the 10% number, I'm not going to quote you a specific number, but it's far lower in terms of what remains, and based on the tenants that are rolling, and importantly based on the rent, which is in the single-digits that's rolling, we feel pretty good about where we'll continue to be from a renewal standpoint.
Ki Bin Kim
Analyst
Okay. And sorry, I was looking at the small shop tenants, I guess you only have no 7% rolling to be officially correct here. In terms of capital allocation, one of the key aspects of Brixmor has been your ability to allocate capital to anchor repositioning and redevelopment and very well leased, so lower risk. How do you think about this segment in during uncertain times? And if the rent will be there to justify the cost, if the tenant demand will be there, if the small shop follow through demand will be there, there is quite a lot of things you have to kind of think about.
Jim Taylor
Management
Well, you hit the main point right on the head in your question. And that is that our investment activity is substantially pre-leased. So ironically, the business plan that we've been executing prior to this crisis is the exact same business plan that we're going to execute through and beyond the crisis. Obviously, with a continued focus on making sure that we're driving very attractive risk adjusted returns on that capital that not only is great on an incremental basis, but as we talked about throughout, creates tremendous amount of intrinsic value. But you know, I think in a strange kind of way, the conservatism and approach of our business model not only positioned us well to come into this crisis, but it's going to be a very similar model that we execute as we emerge and we're going to avoid as we did before ground up or significant speculative investment, because you just don't get paid enough for it. And if anything that this crisis points that out, that where you are putting capital to work, which we haven't without those forward leads commitments, you're risking stranding significant amounts of capital. So appreciate the question and I think it just really highlights for us as a company what our relative strength is.
Operator
Operator
Our next question comes from Hong Zhang of J.P. Morgan.
Hong Zhang
Analyst
Hi. I guess what percentage of ABR do those tenants that you took the bad debt reserves representing your portfolio? And looking into the second quarter so far, have you identified any other tenants that are at risk of going into catch accounting?
Jim Taylor
Management
Yes. Thank you for the question. We did take a real hard look at our watch list tenants and we focused in for purposes of taking the reserve on straight-line and AR in the first quarter on those tenants that are higher at risk. I'll let Angela, maybe provide a little bit more color. But you know, these were tenants that we felt would be disproportionately impacted by the crisis that were weaker going into the crisis. And we thought it was conservative and appropriate to specifically reserve for them.
Angela Aman
Management
Yes, I think Jim laid it out well, it was a pretty targeted assessment of the watch list. Those tenants that were nonessential closed, had disruption to their business. And as I mentioned in my remarks, we did kind of a thorough evaluation of their liquidity position to determine, which tends to take ultimately take the reserves on. I would say their exposure in the portfolio is low single-digits, it was a handful of tenants that made up the reserves we outlined in the press release, but in total, it was low single-digit exposure to those tenants.
Hong Zhang
Analyst
Got it. Thank you.
Operator
Operator
We'll go next to Shivani Sood of Deutsche Bank.
Shivani Sood
Analyst
Hey, good morning. I'm just curious in terms of the deferral conversations you're having with tenants. Can you give us a sense of how many of those are just for April versus maybe April and May? And Jim, you had touched on this in your opening remarks, but some color on the payback periods that you're targeting in these conversations.
Jim Taylor
Management
Yes, I'm going to let Brian comment more detail, but I do think it's important to highlight the principle with which we approach these discussions and that is that, these are deals that we would have done absent the crisis. So whether it's one month or two months, two months, which were generally holding too in terms of time period. We really are focused on looking into those leases and identifying those clauses, the restrictive uses and other items that there's real value frankly in lifting. And Brian, you may want to add some more.
Brian Finnegan
Analyst
Yes, Jim, you covered most of it. Again, these are generally been a month or two pay back at the end of 2020 into early 2021. And again, that guiding principle is that the value we're getting or receiving is greater than or equal to the cost of the deferral. And we've been able to lift restrictions, get extensions. So far those discussions have been productive with several retailers. So we're getting to a place that makes sense, we're entering into agreements, when we're not either the tenants paying rent or we're making the decision to pursue our legal rights under the lease, as Jim mentioned in his opening remarks. But, in terms of the total amount of deferrals, we're still early, each of those negotiations is specific with many of those tenants we expect to have more color as we move forward. But we're making some good progress. And really appreciate the effort just of our national account team. Their rapport and dialogue with these retailers is helping us get to a place where, as Jim mentioned, it makes good business sense, COVID or no COVID with whether or not we'd enter these deals.
Shivani Sood
Analyst
Thanks so much for that color. And then part of the original disposition strategy I think, was the sell out of markets where you don't maybe have that critical presence. And in a lot of conversations I been having at least the Brixmor’s diversity has been cited as a positive. So appreciate it's very early days still, but just curious how you might be thinking about this longer-term, in terms of the size or the scope of the portfolio?
Jim Taylor
Management
Well, the diversity is one of our strengths and I think it really goes to – we think there are several markets across the country that some have red lines, where we think they're great risk adjusted returns. But our focus is always on having enough presence in those markets where we don't tip the geographic diversification scale, but we do provide ourselves with the synergies of more than one center in a particular market. And so, we've done a tremendous amount of pruning of single asset markets since we started. We have a few more, some of them do represent markets where we will add exposure over time. But, that geographic diversification, because we're not, for example, just trying to be in certain coastal markets, I think is going to be a continued strength of this company.
Operator
Operator
And we'll go next to Greg McGinniss of Scotiabank.
Greg McGinniss
Analyst
Hey, Jim. Just going back to the question you just addressed on markets you've been targeting and geographic diversification. So obviously this environment has created some strange hurdles. I'm just curious, if the potential for changes to physical college tenants, at least in the very near-term has changed your investment philosophy on university towns?
Jim Taylor
Management
It's a near-term risk. I mean, you're spot on. Many of these university towns are seeing dramatic reductions in their populations that the students have gone home and they're learning remotely. I don't think it's a long-term issue. But we're certainly focused on those markets like UC Davis or Ann Arbor or College Station, where we have assets and making sure that our tenants are getting to the other side of this. But we believe very strongly in the long-term vitality of those markets and as we emerge on the other side of this crisis and students get back to school, I think our tenants are going to thrive.
Greg McGinniss
Analyst
Okay. Thanks. And Angela, at this point, how should we be thinking about the suspended dividends versus taxable income in Q2 and in 2020? And maybe as a way of helping us out if you can, at what level of GAAP rent collection do you actually reached zero taxable income.
Angela Aman
Management
Yes. Thanks for the question, Greg. We're continuing to evaluate and obviously monitor closely taxable income as we mentioned in the press release, that'll be a key consideration the Board considers when determining when or how to reinstate the dividend. As Jim talked about in his prepared remarks, the key focus for how we're navigating the crisis, really in every way across the Board is to put us in the strongest position possible coming out of the crisis and to be able to reinstate the dividend fully on the other side. At this point there is just too much uncertainty in the environment to give any more specific color, I think, as it relates to 2020.
Greg McGinniss
Analyst
All right. Thank you both.
Jim Taylor
Management
Thank you.
Operator
Operator
We'll go next to Floris van Dijkum of Compass Point.
Jim Taylor
Management
Hey, Floris.
Floris van Dijkum
Analyst
Hey, good morning guys. Thanks for taking my question. A quick question here on your small shop leasing, historically, your small shop occupancy has liked sector peers. Obviously, the COVID is likely to have a greater impact on the small shop. What do you see as the strategy going forward? And do you see that your occupancy could dip or how do you look at the growth opportunity in the portfolio as a result of the impact on your small shop?
Jim Taylor
Management
Well, it's a great question and everything that we've done from a strategy perspective has been geared towards utilizing that small shop vacancy as an additional growth lever, particularly as we're repositioning anchors and leasing off the strength of some of that redevelopment capital. And you've seen that trajectory in our small shop occupancy over the last several quarters. We did see a dip in the first quarter due to Dress Barn, but that underlying momentum we think will continue and be an important part of our growth strategy going forward. And I think that you've seen actually, interestingly, if you dig into our April collection numbers, some real strength in the amount of rent paid by our small shop tenants, including our small shop tenants, the non-essential tenants that have been forced to close. And I'm real proud of that statistic, because I think it points to what has been over 16 quarters of work of continuing to upgrade the quality of the portfolio, upgrade the anchors. And so, as we emerge on the other side of this, we think we'll be positioned to continue to use that as an opportunity.
Floris van Dijkum
Analyst
Thanks Jim. And let me just ask you one more question regarding the suspension of dividends.
Jim Taylor
Management
Sure.
Floris van Dijkum
Analyst
You mentioned – again, your payout ratio was very low going into this. Obviously, we're not quite sure how things will look coming out. But the expectation is that, you'll – you would still be able to service a dividend similar to what you were paying before. Would you suspense the or not pay a dividend for a couple quarters and then resume that same quarterly payment potentially going out of this once you have more clarity or would you consider paying some of the dividends that you've skipped as a result of this suspension?
Jim Taylor
Management
Well, our product at the end of the day is the dividend that grows. And so we take that decision very seriously and we made the decision to suspend it in an abundance of caution and with really the focus of being able to fully reinstate that dividend. And as you mentioned, we enjoy one of the lowest payout ratios in the sector. We're not taking significant risks from a redevelopment perspective. It's all pre-leased. We have a huge amount of liquidity, far more liquidity than we need over the next several years. And this is really a decision of conservatism as we look at the potential for tenant failures and the potential to be on the other side of this. If you haven't addressed the dividend of needing to raise equity at what could be possibly the worst potential time. And when you look back to 2008, 2009, huge amounts of shareholder value were destroyed by companies putting themselves in the position of needing to issue equity at the wrong time. So it is a conservative decision given our low payout ratio, but it's one with an eye towards emerging from this, not only being able to fully reinstate the dividend. But also being in a position to capitalize on what we think are going to be some very attractive investment opportunities because of this dislocation. And also Floris, because of the competitive advantage we believe a platform like ours will enjoy going forward so not an easy decision but we believe on balance, the right decision.
Operator
Operator
And we’ll go next to Christy McElroy with Citi.
Christy McElroy
Analyst
Good morning. Thanks. Angela, you're sitting with a good amount of liquidity today. In the context of how you're thinking about the environment and risk. How do you think about the potential for holding that larger cash balance for our position for a longer period of time and sort of solidifying that by accessing the debt markets to pay down the line? Have you looked at term loan or unsecured markets for pricing indications?
Angela Aman
Management
Yes, thanks Christy. We're certainly looking at all of our options from a capital availability perspective. I do think we're starting to see more REIT deals at the unsecured bond markets will be evaluating that closely. We're very focused on duration also. So I don't know that we gain a tremendous amount by adding in some short-term bank debt to the capital structure at this point. But that's obviously something we would evaluate and consider as well. In terms of the balance on the credit facility and when we might be in a position to address that. I think it's just – it's an ongoing evaluation of where we sit from a business perspective, how things play out over the coming weeks and months. And then as you mentioned, kind of the capital availability picture and what that looks like going forward as well.
Christy McElroy
Analyst
Okay. And then, sorry if I missed this, you discussed the 15% reduction in operating expenses. How much of that will actually fall to the bottom line in terms of benefit to NOI and FFO versus being passed on to tenants in the form of lower CAM recoveries?
Angela Aman
Management
Yes, it's about I'm going to say, these are kind of rough estimates, but it's probably somewhere in the 60%, 65% range of that number is going to end up really being reflected in lower recovery income and being passed through to the tenants. And the remainder would accrue to Brixmor as a benefit in terms of reduced leakage on the net recovery side.
Jim Taylor
Management
I'm sorry, but Christy, our focus there is really to make sure we're reducing the burden on those non-essential tenants that have been forced to close.
Christy McElroy
Analyst
Yes, I was just wondering how temporary that is. Is that sort of like a quarter, the second quarter thing or more ongoing?
Jim Taylor
Management
Well, we have the ability to continue it as long as we need to during the duration of these closures. As I mentioned before, we are seeing an accelerated rate of reopening across the portfolio and of course, we'll pivot as appropriate based on the level of businesses that are open in each of our centers.
Christy McElroy
Analyst
Thank you.
Operator
Operator
We'll go next to Jeremy Metz of BMO Capital Markets.
Jeremy Metz
Analyst
Hey, thanks. Just a couple follow-up items here. You mentioned, Jim, the strength in shop payment. So what was the percentage of collections across shop versus anchor have grown to that 66%, and then implied in your comments earlier about May moderating or potentially moderating in terms of collection and negotiating deferrals with tenants, who maybe pay a reduced amount in May and maybe June. It is implied in that that these are deferrals being discussed with tenants who actually already paid in April?
Jim Taylor
Management
Let me hit both of those. So, look, as it relates to the deferral discussions that we're having now. Some of them did pay in April. Some of them didn't. What's interesting is when you look at the collection rates for small shops, particularly those nonessential and hybrid small shops that were forced to close they were actually higher than some of the national anchors in the same categories. And we've obviously been engaged in what I believe are generally very constructive discussions with some of those tenants who didn't pay in April as well as some who did, really with the guiding principle again and making sure that we're getting appropriate value for the agreement to defer. I mean, one thing I want to make abundantly clear, we believe our lease is legally entitled us to the rent for April and May. And for those tenants that don't honor their obligations under the leases and we don't have constructive discussions with, we're going to pursue all the remedies that we have under those leases. With many of those tenants as we get into negotiations, what's kind of interesting as they decide to go ahead and pay their rent. So but given the – actually the success that Brian and team has had with some of these larger tenants and negotiating deferrals that we think makes sense because they unlock real value in the leases. We do expect that rate of collection in May, which is ahead of where we were in April. And again, better than many people reported entirely for April. We do expect that to moderate a bit.
Jeremy Metz
Analyst
So are you able to just comment on the first slide, just on the breakdown of collections from shoppers anchor.
Jim Taylor
Management
I don't have those numbers specifically. Angela?
Angela Aman
Management
Yes, we were in the low 70% range for anchors, in the low 60% range for small shop.
Jeremy Metz
Analyst
All right, thanks guys.
Operator
Operator
Our next question comes from Alexander Goldfarb of Piper Sandler.
Alexander Goldfarb
Analyst
Yes. Hey, good morning. So two questions from me. First, Jim, maybe this is a layup, but I hopefully there's some good color that you can provide. As your retailers and really thinking about the retailers who do – who both – who have both an active robust online platform to compliment their physical location, what's been their feedback so far? Everyone rushing to the grocery store, drug store, et cetera, whether it's bread, yeast, toilet paper, whatever, to buy stuff. And obviously, there's been stuff that's out of stock in store and out of stock online. What's been the retailer feedback so far as far as fulfillment? Have they found that certain categories are better actually filled, direct in your shopping centers and other things turn out to be easier on e-commerce from their platform? Just sort of curious as they look at fulfillment during this time, what the feedback has been?
Jim Taylor
Management
Well, I think on balance they've found that the store has been a critical mode of their overall fulfillment across a lot of different product types. Those retailers that do have online robust presences are saying much even higher rates of adoption of the pickup and curbside delivery outside their stores. And as I mentioned before, they're all very focused I think on that being a sticky part of what their business model will be going forward. Brian, I don't know if you have any other color there.
Brian Finnegan
Analyst
Yes, I would just say in talking to our retailers, it has been interesting that those that didn't have a full ship from store platform have started to do it. And it's been interesting to hear just looking at where they're shipping products from across the country. Some of the electronics retailers were saying, wherever you can find – whatever they can find the specific product, they are looking to do more of that from a ship from store perspective. And when I think you're going to see coming out of this, it's just the further integration and acceleration for those retailers that haven't had as much of an omni-channel platform. Realizing the importance of the store, realizing the importance of curbside pickup and then doing more from a shift from store perspective so coming out of this, we expect a ton of innovation from our retailers that we're a little bit further behind coming in.
Alexander Goldfarb
Analyst
Okay. And then second question is do you have a sense for how many of your tenants have gotten waivers from their banks or their creditors as far as if they are in default of their lease but it doesn't trip their other covenant – their other financial covenants with their lenders. Do you have any color on how many of your tenants have gotten those waivers?
Jim Taylor
Management
It's a great question. Today, we don't believe it's a significant number, but certainly many of them are looking at that particularly under the maintenance of properties, which requires that they be in compliance with their leases. I think it's a tough thing to negotiate though, right, Alex. Because what you're basically asking a lender to do is to look past the need to actually have units to sell product. And we clearly believe in the enforceability of our leases and the remedies that we have under those leases, which could severely disrupt the retailer's attempt of recovery. But we know some retailers are out there looking at it. But from what everything that we see it's not been a broad based trend.
Alexander Goldfarb
Analyst
Thank you.
Operator
Operator
Our next question comes from Haendel St. Juste of Mizuho.
Jim Taylor
Management
Hi Haendel.
Haendel St. Juste
Analyst
Good morning. Glad to hear you and I hope everyone is well. I want to just follow up on, I think with Jeremy's question. Jeremy's question on the small shop collections beyond April and May. My understanding is that as a small operator, you got a PPP loan, you have to use that loan money to pay rent to ultimately help get it forgiven. So it wouldn't necessarily make sense to ask for deferral in April, May because you have to use the money for rent. So instead you use the money to pay April and May. And if you need help, then you ask for deferral for June and probably July, which suggest that collection deferrals could remain under pressure beyond second quarter. So I guess, I'm curious on your view on what the level of risk this presents and what steps do you take into address and mitigate…
Jim Taylor
Management
Well, you're pointing to something very important and that is that the local mom-and-pop small shops, which for us in the non-essential and hybrid category represent about 16% of our total ABR. That those are probably, the businesses that are going to be most economically sensitive to the duration of this crisis, right. So what ultimately plays through and is going to be driven in part about by not only how long does this last, but what is the shape of recovery. The PPP program has been embraced by many of these tenants and they are allowed to apply a portion of those proceeds which are sized on payroll to business expenses including rent and get a full forgiveness of that amount used to pay for qualified business expenses. But there are other forms of relief that we believe these tenants will be able to avail themselves. Coming behind the PPP program, the one that we're watching most closely and positioning to give our tenants meaningful access to is the Main Street lending program, which is a four-year debt money at very attractive rates, far below where public companies like ourselves could borrow on that type of basis. As a way to provide them liquidity, not just to get through the duration, but also on the other side to have the working capital to reopen. And then finally, we're watching really closely the Business Recovery Act, which ICSC has been at the forefront amongst a number of different industry associations, which would also provide some relief for small businesses for the business interruption that they've suffered. Who knows if that ultimately comes through but I do believe that the Main Street lending is going to be actually an even more comprehensive form of liquidity for some of these tenants. And remember as I alluded to in an earlier question, these were all businesses that were thriving as we went into this crisis. The quality, I think shows through in some of our collection rates. But it's something we're very focused on. And we'll continue to provide updates as we move through the crisis.
Haendel St. Juste
Analyst
That's helpful. Thanks. And I guess more to you, how much financial assistance are you, Brixmor, open to providing to your tenants? Are you doing longer term deferrals beyond six to 12 months? Do these deferrals include interests or could they be structured like loans and making loans to your tenants? So just curious on how much help you are actually providing to your tenants?
Jim Taylor
Management
We're being very careful with deferrals, generally avoiding payments across the board. And we're trying to size the deferral to what we think the tenant's underlying need is. And Brian and David Gerstenhaber and our entire leasing team, in addition to our collections team is working with each of these tenants on an individual basis to make sure that we emerge on the other side of this crisis as intact as possible. Whether or not we provide additional support in working capital loans, it's a bit premature to comment on at this point, particularly as we watch to see how broad the Main Street lending program would be. But in certain circumstances we would certainly assess providing additional types of working capital if ultimately that is a good business decision to get through to the other side of this crisis. But a little bit early, Haendel, we certainly have that arrow in our quiver. We have more than ample liquidity to provide it. But we're going to try to make the best business decisions tenant by tenant.
Operator
Operator
And we'll go next to Vince Tibone of Green Street Advisors.
Vince Tibone
Analyst
Good morning. With e-commerce penetration likely accelerating this year, could you see any of your vacant box space converting to dedicated micro-fulfillment centers with little to no selling space potentially?
Jim Taylor
Management
It's a really great question. We are seeing from some of the usual suspects, increased demand for micro-fulfillment, actually at rents that in many instances exceed underlying retail rents. So we are very interested in that as a trend. I think, Vince, we're very early. And you need to make sure that you're doing it at properties that would support that type of use and also that you're not damaging the balance of the use within the center. But it is a category that is we think, going to grow significantly. And we're having early discussions with different users on that very type of use. And I think honestly, Vince what it points to really is how darn valuable these open-air shopping centers are that are within the last mile, right. And I think it's kind of coming through in the other business plans of the main line retail tenants we have, particularly through this disruption, boy, is it nice to be close to your consumer?
Vince Tibone
Analyst
That's an interesting color. One more from me, would you consider temporary levering up to go on offense if you feel there are attractive distressed investment opportunities? And how do you weigh potentially attractive underwritten returns with maintaining all your liquidity and your current balance sheet position?
Jim Taylor
Management
We're going to take a real conservative posture through this crisis. And I think that that's really important because what may look like an attractive return right now may not be further as we get in. We're just not that smart. So we believe that by maintaining a conservative balance sheet, frankly the action that we took with the dividend as we get to the other side of this, puts us in a better position to do exactly what you're talking about. And it really informed a lot of our decision around the dividend. But we're not going to lever up. I just have too many scars from decisions like that, that were made in previous downturns that really destroyed a substantial amount of shareholder value.
Vince Tibone
Analyst
Makes sense. Thanks for your time.
Jim Taylor
Management
You bet. Thank you.
Operator
Operator
And our final question today comes from Linda Tsai of Jefferies.
Linda Tsai
Analyst
Hi. Headed into COVID, there was a group of tenants still looking for new space like discount grocers and the Rosses and T.J.s of the world. Understanding those conversations are probably on pause right now would you expect them to become more aggressive in their negotiations once those conversations start up again?
Jim Taylor
Management
Actually, Linda, they're not on pause and maybe Brian, I’ll turn it over to you.
Brian Finnegan
Analyst
Yes. Thanks Jim. They're not – our pipeline if you looked at it still includes many of those names that we were signing leases with – we signed leases with in March. We signed leases in March with Burlington with Ross and those – we expect those tenants to continue to have robust pipeline, particularly from the increased traffic that they're going to get with increased department store closures. We're already seeing what's happening in department stores. So they're going to get even more traffic than they were getting before. And from a grocery perspective, I think Sprouts announced with their new prototype that they're going to be ramping up new deals. We're talking to Lidl. We're talking to all the – if anything, they want to see more opportunities and having come back to us with more aggressive terms or anything like that. So look, from a timing standpoint, I think there is going to be a period of time where many of these non-essential retailers are focused on getting their stores open. So there will be a pause in that regard, but not a pause in terms of moving deals forward and bringing things into committee. And our team's done a great job of continuing to move a number of those deals forward so that we're in a position that effectively when the lights get turned back on, we're going to be able to execute on those leases and move those deals forward. So particularly in those categories you mentioned, we're still seeing very strong demand.
Linda Tsai
Analyst
Thanks for that color. And then just one for Angela, maybe this touches on earlier questions from Christy and Vince. Any sense of how overall leverage might trend as we go through year-end 2020 and into 2021?
Angela Aman
Management
Yes. Thanks Linda. It's another one of those questions that is a little bit difficult, given the uncertainty in the environment to quantify very specifically. We're obviously focused on managing that within as tight of a band as we can and as we've talked about coming on, on the other side with as much capacity as ultimately as possible. I do think there are going to be nuances in terms of some of the reporting from an accounting perspective associated with some of the deferrals that we're signing and that's going to have an impact as well as our overall assessment level of collectability, which as we get further on into the recovery could ultimately change as well. So it is a little bit difficult to predict, especially as we're looking at a short timeframe through year-end. But I would just reiterate the commitment we've always had to continuing to work down to at least the low six times level and that'll be our focus from a medium to longer term perspective.
Linda Tsai
Analyst
Thanks.
Operator
Operator
And at this time, I'd like to turn the call back over to Stacy Slater for any additional or closing remarks.
Stacy Slater
Management
Thank you everyone for joining us today.
Operator
Operator
And this does conclude today's call. We appreciate everyone's participation. You may now disconnect.