Michael Mazzei
Analyst · BTIG
Thanks for your question. So, let me handle the loan size first. It's always been our focus to be in middle market, and to be at loan size, is that kind of range from the 20s into sub $100 million range. And the reason for that is, and based on the company's experience and based on our shareholder equity amount, that we felt that more diversification was a critical feature and risk management here. And so, bringing that average loan size down and it was very barbelled and as you know, the company historically has taken some very large write-downs on some very big loans. So, in this case, we're really trying to diversify the loan balance, so that no one loan can really have a big, big material effect on the company. It also helps us when we do securitizations with our diversification of a portfolio, and we realize that we're not in some of the larger loan MSAs. But quite frankly, we prefer the drive to markets for office where you're seeing higher occupancy rates of tenants. You're seeing in areas of Dallas, where there are 65%, 70% occupancy rates are tenants rates, but in places like New York City, San Francisco, you're seeing very low office occupancy rates. And so, we're concerned that you're in the bigger MSAs, you're going to do bigger loans. And we think those MSAs right now are also more risky, especially for office assets. With regard to the cash, we just -- as a mortgage REIT, you can't be all in, all the time because you perpetually long credit. So, we're monitoring the market. And quite frankly, Eric, a lot of our brothers are sitting on a lot of cash and they express it as dry powder. We're ready to move, take advantage of opportunities. But right now, there are, as we said in prepare remarks, very few actionable opportunities. After 10-plus years of the Fed, giving us a put to them, the Fed is now putting back to the market. So, right now, pipelines at brokers have basically evaporated and the actionable opportunities are more far and few between. So, whether you were designing yourself to sit on cash or not, you're sitting on cash. The prepayments, as Andy said in his prepared remarks, have been slowing. So that's to our advantage and we don't have a targeted amount. We kind of -- we're looking around the corner and we're trying to see what things can happen, and we're trying to prepare for them. I think this is a market that nobody has seen before. We have $9 trillion sitting on the Fed's balance sheet. No one is talking about that. We're in an interest rate environment and inflation environment. No one has seen before. We've had 40 years of a treasury market rally. So, I think it's prudent just sitting on the amount of cash. We don't have an amount targeted. Right now, I think it's something in the 270 range. We always said that we were going to operate with a $100 million of net cash on the balance sheet to move assets around. So, we've got that $175 million. It's earning a 2% for the first time. We've seen that number in many years. And we could look at potentially deploying some of that cash. AAA CLO loans have gotten incredibly cheap. As I said in my prepared remarks, they're yielding 5% last quarter. I thought they would be yielding 4.5% by the third quarter. And they're yielding 5% in the second quarter. So that's something that we're watching. And if there's a way to maybe deploy cash there and apply a modest amount of leverage, like 50%, you can get to a 7% yield on that. So, we're looking at the CLO market. We do think that the growth of issuance there is going to cause spreads to come in. So, right now, $275 million of cash, we're sitting on, we don't have a predetermined amount of money. The excess is about 175, and we'll just continue to manage that over the next couple of quarters until we see there's visibility and there's actionable lending opportunities.