Frank Laukien
Analyst · your question.
Dan, high-teens in the second quarter. So it's really one of the weakest areas and as we've noted also Europe, Europe better than the U.S., better than Japan very, very weak and India places like this very, very weak. So the big geographic differences. And China coming back, but not China not roaring back. China coming not coming back all that quickly. So if anything, the Europe was the to highlight in academic government believe it or not in Q2 and actually looks pretty healthy for Q3 as well. A lot of the questions that you're asking are very applicable to the United States where you have federal and state government, and endowments, and tuition, and housing, and things like that paying for universities and some universities have a big hospital and that contributes to Stanford budget or this year probably bring a shortfall to Stanford's budget to pick on the particular university. Those patterns are really almost unknown outside of the United States. So academic funding outside of the United States generally is very, very robust. And so 80% of our academic and government research markets are outside of the United States. And in the U.S., it's more of a mixed picture. And without repeating what I said earlier and what you kind of even put into your question, in the U.S. it’s going to be more of a big picture, some smaller university, some state funded universities, some universities with a big shortfall at their big hospital, they will be putting, cutting budgets and they may slow down a little bit and even in academic hiring. And of course, when they get federal grants they will absolutely take them. So it will be a mixed picture. It won't be all negative, but it also won't be all positive. For us I think outside of the United States the academic funding may have been disrupted but I think it's incredibly solid and beyond temporary effects that are really related to the pandemic in Q2 and Q3, maybe a little bit into Q4. I think we’ll be largely gone and we’ll be back at solid academic budgets outside of the United States, which is 80% of the academic market. In the U.S., it will be more mixed. There will be winners and losers in terms of budgets and ability to pay. But I think in U.S. that ultimately it’s hard to predict politics, isn't it. But ultimately, it seems that there will be bipartisan support, I’d predict for significant investments in NIH, NSF and even DOE, R&D and so on.