Brady Corporation (BRC) Q4 2018 Earnings Report, Transcript and Summary

Good day, ladies and gentlemen and welcome to the Brady Corporation Fourth Quarter 2018 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all phone participants are in a listen-only mode. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, today’s conference call is being recorded. I would now like to introduce your host for today’s conference, Ann Thornton, Chief Accounting Officer. Ma’am, please go ahead.

Thank you. Good morning and welcome to the Brady Corporation fiscal 2018 fourth quarter earnings conference call. The slides for this morning's call are located on our website at www.bradycorp.com/investors. We will begin our prepared remarks on slide number three. Please note that during this call, we may make comments about forward-looking information. Words such as expect, will, may, believe, forecast, and anticipate are just a few examples of words identifying a forward-looking statement. It's important to note that forward-looking information is subject to various risk factors and uncertainties, which could significantly impact expected results. Risk Factors were noted in our news release this morning and in Brady's fiscal 2018 Form 10-K, which was filed with the SEC this morning. Also, please note that this teleconference is copyrighted by Brady Corporation and may not be rebroadcast without the consent of Brady. We will be recording this call and broadcasting it on the Internet. As such, your participation in the Q&A session will constitute your consent to being recorded. I’ll now turn the call over to Brady's President and Chief Executive Officer, Michael Nauman.

Thank you, Ann. Good morning and thank you all for joining us. This morning, we released our fiscal 2018 fourth quarter financial results, and I'm proud to report our 12th consecutive quarter of improved year-on-year profitability. We closed the sale of our Runelandhs business based in Sweden this quarter. This business is a high quality operation, but it is not core to our strategy, our strategy remains unchanged and we work to divest non-core businesses in a profitable manner, so that we can focus on our strategic business segments. Excluding the gain on this sale, we increased pre-tax earnings by 13%, compared to the fourth quarter of last year. I am extremely proud of the entire Brady team for their consistent delivery of quarterly pre-tax profit improvement in each quarter over the past three years. This quarter also marks our fifth consecutive quarter of organic sales growth and I am pleased to once again report growth in both our Identification Solutions and Workplace Safety businesses. The focus of the team in driving organic sales, while executing efficiency, opportunities continues to be the driver behind the consistent improvement in our financial results for the past three years. Total sales growth was 2.9% this quarter and organic sales growth was 2.5%, our continued focus on introducing innovative products and the development of a robust pipeline is working. We have some exciting new products that we’ll launch this quarter and we have more plan for 2019 that we expect to drive growth over the next several years. Our investment in research and development increased by more than 6% this quarter, which brings our increase in R&D to 14.2% for the full fiscal year. We fully funded this additional investment in R&D through efficiency gains and SG&A without reducing customer facing selling resources. In fact, we’re planning to continue to invest in selling resources and to add to our sales force as we move into fiscal 2019. We finished this fiscal year by maintaining our focus on a consistent set of priorities, which are to develop innovative high quality products, to serve our customers extremely well, to drive improvements throughout our manufacturing processes and to execute efficiency gains throughout our SG&A structure. A significant part of our drive for efficiency gains includes a focus on increasing automation and improving our manufacturing capabilities throughout our global facilities, which has been a primary driver of our increased CapEx as manufacturing workers are becoming more scarce in many of our markets, as a result of a robust job market and declining working age populations. These priorities will remain consistent in fiscal 2019. Our ability to deliver improved financial results is due to the consistency in our goals and initiatives. We have now delivered 12 consecutive quarters of year-over-year profit improvement, five straight quarters of organic sales growth and three straight years of strong cash flow in excess of net earnings. Our Identification Solutions business grew sales organically in all three regions and in most of our product lines in the fourth quarter. Our healthcare product line is still challenged, but I'm confident that we're taking the right actions and making the necessary investments to set this business up for success in the future. The global IDF team continues to deliver organic sales growth and profit improvements. Their ability to execute their strategy has led our financial success over the past three years. Our WPS business reported its second consecutive quarter of organic sales growth, with an increase of 3% in the fourth quarter. The increase in sales was led by our Australian business which grew sales organically in the high-single-digits. We're building momentum in Australia and we've continued to identify new opportunities for growth. Our European business continues to be a strong and grew sales in the quarter in the mid-single-digits. This business has consistently increased sales for the past four years and continues to lead the WPS division's improved financial performance. Organic sales in the North American business declined slightly this quarter, after reporting organic sales growth last quarter. We believe we're making the right moves in the North American business, but as I stated last quarter our sales results will be choppy over the next year as the business works to complete its turnaround and return to consistent organic growth. I'm proud to report a strong finish to 2018 and yesterday we announced our 33rd consecutive year of annual dividend increases as we increased our annual dividend to $0.85 per share. We're delivering what we promised to our customers, to our shareholders and to our employees. We're maintaining our focus on the long-term by taking actions that may not pay off immediately, but that will result in sustainable improvements into the future. We're setting ourselves up so that as we continue to grow sales we're also accelerating bottom-line growth and cash generation. I'll now turn the call over to Aaron to discuss our financial results for the fourth quarter. Then I'll return to provide more specific commentary about our Identification Solutions and Workplace Safety businesses. Aaron?

Thank you, Michael and good morning, everyone. The financial review starts on slide number three. Sales increased to 2.9% to $297.5 million in the fourth quarter, which consisted of organic sales growth of 2.5% and an increase of 1% from foreign currency translation, partially offset by a decrease of 0.6% from the sale of our Runelandhs in Sweden. We increased our investment in research and development once again this quarter. R&D expense was $11.7 million, which was an increase of 6.3% over last year's fourth quarter. Our trend of improved profitability continued this quarter as well, excluding the $4.7 million gain on divestiture pre-tax earnings increased 13% to $40.6 million compared to $35.9 million in last year's fourth quarter. The profit improvement was driven by organic sales growth and profit growth in both our IDS and WPS businesses, as well as our continued focus on driving sustainable efficiency gains throughout our SG&A structure. Net earnings finished at $35 million this quarter compared to $25.2 million in the fourth quarter of last year. Excluding the gain on the divestiture net earnings would have been $30.3 million, which is an increase of 20% over last year's fourth quarter. Our tax rate excluding the gain on the divestiture was 25.4%, which compares to a tax rate of 29.7% in last year's fourth quarter. This quarter EPS benefitted approximately $0.09 from the sale of Runelandhs. Excluding this gain, EPS would have been $0.57, which is an increase of 18.8% over the $0.48 of EPS recorded in last year's fourth quarter. Our cash generation continues to be strong, cash flow from operating activities was $53.8 million this quarter, which was equal to 154% of net earnings. Overall, we had a strong finish to fiscal 2018. We grew organically, we realized efficiency gains in our SG&A structure, we generated strong cash flow, we increased our investment in R&D and we increased our investments in machinery and equipment to further drive efficiencies and automation within our manufacturing facilities. On slide number four, you'll find our quarterly sales trends. Total sales grew 2.9% and organic sales increased 2.5%. We're building positive sales momentum in both our IDS and WPS segments, which we're expecting to continue into fiscal 2019. Our gross profit trending is outlined on slide number five. Our gross profit margin was effectively flat at 49.6% this quarter, compared to 49.7% in the fourth quarter of last year. Slide number six details our SG&A expense trending. SG&A was $90.9 million this quarter compared to $96.5 million in the fourth quarter of last year. Excluding the gain on the divestiture, SG&A expense was $95.6 million, which is a decrease of approximately $900,000 from last year's fourth quarter. This decrease is a direct result of our ongoing efforts to improve processes and drive sustainable efficiency gains throughout our SG&A structure. Looking forward, we expect that our general and administrative expenses will continue this general downward trend, while we reinvest the savings into R&D resources to drive future sales growth. Slide number seven illustrates the trending of our investments in R&D. We increased our investments in R&D once again this quarter from $11 million in last year's fourth quarter to $11.7 million this year. We're committed to new product development, we launched another new printer this quarter, and we have an improved pipeline with more products planned to launch in fiscal 2019. We believe investments in growing the business organically will ultimately have the highest rate of return and are critical to growing sales consistently over the long-term. Moving to slide number eight, you'll find our quarterly trending of pre-tax earnings. Excluding the gain on the divestiture, this quarter, we increased pre-tax earnings by $4.7 million or 13%. This marks our 12 consecutive quarter of pre-tax earnings improvement. Slide number nine shows the trending of our quarterly earnings per share and net earnings. Excluding the gain on divestiture, our diluted EPS would have been $0.57 this quarter, compared to $0.48 in last year's fourth quarter, an increase of 18.8%. Excluding the gain on divestiture, our tax rate was 25.4% this quarter. As we look ahead into fiscal 2019, we expect our tax rate to be in the mid-20% range, as we realize benefits from the U.S. tax reform that was signed into law in December of 2017. However, this tax rate is subject to further refinement as the U.S. Treasury continues to come out with various interpretations and implementation guidance. Moving along to slide number 10, you'll find a summary of our cash generation. We generated $53.8 million of cash flow from operating activities, compared to $52.9 million in last year’s fourth quarter. Free cash flow was $46.8 million this quarter, compared to $48.6 million in the same quarter last year. We continued our trend of generating cash flow in excess of net earnings. In the fourth quarter cash flow from operating activities was equal to 154% of net earnings and free cash flow is equal to 134% of net earnings. Our primary uses of cash were to invest in organic sales generating activities, to strengthen our balance sheet by paying down debt, and to return funds to our shareholders in the form of dividends. This brings us to slide number 11. This slide outlines the trending of our net cash position and provides a snapshot of our debt structure at the end of our fiscal year. We increased our net cash position by more than $100 million this year, while increasing both our investments in R&D and in capital expenditures, which is a testament to our strong cash generating ability. At the end of the year, our net cash position was $128.8 million. As we look at deploying our cash, our approach to capital allocation is disciplined and patient. First, we use our cash to fund organic opportunities throughout the cycle, which includes funding investments in new product development, sales generating resources, IT improvements, capability enhancing capital expenditures and capital expenditures to increase efficiency and increase automation in our factories. Second, we focus on returning cash to our shareholders in the form of dividends. After funding organic investments in dividends, we then patiently deploy our cash in a disciplined manner for acquisitions, where we believe we have strong synergistic opportunities, and we use our cash to improve shareholder returns through opportunistic share repurchases. We have nearly 2 million shares authorized for repurchase as of July 31st. Overall, our cash generation is strong, our balance sheet is strong and we’re focused on driving long-term value for our shareholders through our disciplined allocation of capital. Before moving to our fiscal 2019 EPS guidance, I’d like to provide a look back at our fiscal 2018 financial results, which is on slide number 12. This year, we reported organic sales growth in each quarter and grew 2.6% organically for the year. We increased our GAAP pre-tax earnings by 20% and if you exclude the gain on the sale of Runelandhs, we -- than our pre-tax earnings grew 16.4%. We returned our Workplace Safety business to organic sales growth, with organic sales growth increasing 0.7% and WPS segment profit increasing 24.1%. And we generated $143 million of cash flow from operating activities, which equates to approximately 157% of net earnings. We continue to execute efficiency improvements, which is evidenced in our reduced SG&A as a percent of sales, we have more opportunities to reduce our G&A expense and our back office selling activities, while improving our processes around the customer buying experience. We also increased our investments in R&D, which was up 14% this year. This is directly in line with our strategy to drive long-term sales growth through the development of a steady pipeline of new product introductions throughout our businesses. Overall, our FY18 financial results were strong and we have very strong positive momentum going into fiscal 2019. Slide number 13, introduces our diluted earnings per share guidance for our fiscal year ending July 31, 2019. We expect earnings per diluted Class A Nonvoting Common Share to range from $2.15 to $2.25 per share and we expect organic sales growth to range from 2% to 4%. Included in our FY19 guidance, is an increase in R&D investments of approximately 7%, we expect our income tax rate to be in the mid-20% range, we expect depreciation and amortization expense of approximately $26 million and capital expenditures of approximately $35 million. Included in our CapEx guidance is approximately $10 million of expenditures related to the construction of certain facilities that are currently leased. Excluding these facility construction cost, our CapEx is still running a bit higher than our historical averages, as we continue to invest in factory automation and improved manufacturing capabilities. Our guidance is based on foreign currency exchange rates as of July 31, 2018. Based on these exchange rates, we expect that foreign currency will negatively impact our FY19 results by approximately $0.12 per share, which is of course built into our guidance range of $2.15 to $2.25 per share. We are not anticipating any restructuring charges and we are not excluding any one-time items from this guidance. I’ll now turn the call back over to Michael to cover our divisional results and provide some closing comments, before turning the call over to Q&A. Michael?

Thank you, Aaron. Slide number 14 summarizes the Identification Solutions fourth quarter financial results. IDS sales increased by 3.1%, finishing at $217.8 million, with organic sales growth of 2.4% and foreign currency translation increasing sales by another 0.7%. Organic sales growth was led by Asia, with mid-single-digit growth in the quarter followed by Europe and the America regions posting growth in the low-single-digits. In the Americas organic sales growth was the strongest in our wire ID and product ID product lines. We’re building on our momentum and improving both sales and profit within most of our product lines in the Americas. Mid-single-digit sales growth with our U.S. industrial customers was partially offset by a low-single-digit organic sales decline in our healthcare product lines. Our Asian businesses continue to do well within all geographies and we drove a significant profit improvement over the prior year. We continue that excellent opportunities for new customer wins, as well as growth within our existing base of customers, specifically within China and India. I am optimistic about the future of our Asian business. Low-single-digit growth in Europe was driven by Western Europe and our emerging market regions, our wire ID and product ID lines continue to drive sales in this region and we grew organic revenue in almost all of our major geographies in Europe this quarter. Segment profit in the IDS division was $36.5 million in fourth quarter, which was an increase of 1.7% compared to the fourth quarter of last year. As a percentage of sales, segment profit was 16.8% this quarter, compared to 17% last year. I am proud of this team’s ability to consistently increase segment profit over the past three years. This business is growing in most major geographies and product lines. We’re launching new products, and creating a robust pipeline through improved R&D processes and we’re driving efficiencies throughout the business. Our consistent focus on our key priorities is working. This quarter, we launched the i5100 Industrial Label Printer. This is a durable easy-to-use printer with a wide variety of applications in many industries such as aerospace, electrical, automotive, electronics, manufacturing and lab. This printer includes a touch screen along with the intelligent print technology that allows the materials, printer and software to communicate making it extremely easy to use and customized to the needs of the job. It has the ability to print on a wide variety of brace materials making it another versatile printing solution for a broad range of customers. This is the third printer introduced by Brady during fiscal 2018. The largest quantity and strongest collection of printers introduced by our company in its history. We expect to continue this trend of introducing innovative new printer products. Looking ahead to fiscal 2019, we expect IDS organic growth to grow from 3% to 4%. We will continue to invest in R&D, while efficiency activities in our manufacturing sites and throughout SG&A will provide benefits that will more than offset our investments in new product development. Turning to slide number 15, you'll find our Workplace Safety review. I'm pleased to report that the WPS business reported its second consecutive quarter of organic sales growth. Organic sales continue to increase in the European and Australian businesses where we’re seeing consistent growth for quite some time. Organic sales in the North American business declined slightly in the quarter. We continue to expect that our organic sales turnaround will be choppy over the next year or so, while the North American business executes its strategy. But I'm confident we're taking the right actions to deliver consistent organic sales growth in this region of the WPS business. WPS sales increased by 2.3%, which consisted of our organic sales growth of 3%, and increase from foreign currency translation of 1.6%, partially offset by decline of 2.3% from the sale of Runelandhs. Sales growth was led by our Australian based business with growth in the high-single-digits. We continue to grow sales in Australia in most of our major product lines and we're identifying new opportunities, while realizing growth in our existing base of customers. Organic sales increased in the mid-single-digits in the European business this quarter continuing our trend of low to mid-single-digit organic sales growth that we've delivered for the past four years. Digital sales continue to drive sales growth in Europe, with the revenue through the online channel increasing by nearly 20% compared to last year's fourth quarter. We're driving SG&A improvements through efficiencies in our catalog prospecting strategy and our process improvement initiatives, which has resulted in significant profit improvement in the WPS division throughout this fiscal year. Our focus within the WPS division is consistent and is centered on three priorities. First, we're improving the buying experience for our customers so it is as simple as possible, reaching our customers the way they would like to be reached, whether it’s online mobile, catalog, in-person or a combination of these channels. It is essential for gaining market share and growing this business. Second, we're increasing our customer interactions to provide more value than simply fulfilling orders. This allows us to better understand what our customers are facing from a safety and identification standpoint and to better serve those needs by offering our compliance expertise and complete solutions. Third, one of our strengths is our ability to customize and quickly turn orders for our customers. So we're improving our portfolio of products by introducing more customized and proprietary products that our customers need, while offering our extensive safety and compliance expertise. We're still working hard to return the North American business to consistent organic growth and at the same time we're working to streamline our processes to reduce the cost to process orders and to reduce our structural cost as well, which includes everything from order processing to catalog processing cost to efficiencies and shipping processes. We believe that our industry and compliance expertise differentiates us from our competition and through the solutions that we provide to our customers that others cannot or will not provide. It will enable us to drive the WPS to consistent profitable growth. WPS segment profit was $10.7 million compared to $7.9 million in last year's fourth quarter, an increase of 34.5%. As a percentage of sales segment profit was 13.4% this quarter compared to 10.2% in last year's fourth quarter. This increase in segment profit as a percentage of sales was due to leverage from our organic sales growth, smartest spending in catalog advertising and some benefit from geographic mix. We continued to address our cost structure throughout this business. And the result of this effort is clear through the significant improvement in our segment profit. We're still investing in sales generating resources, while at the same time streamlining processes and reducing the cost to process orders. For the full fiscal 2019, we expect the WPS business to grow organic sales from 1% to 3%. And we expect a continued improvement segment profit to organic growth and continued efficiencies in SG&A. This quarter, marks the completion of my first four years of operating. As I reflect on my time here, I continue to be impressed by our reputation, our specialized in innovative products and our powerful brand name. We have an incredibly talented team that is more committed to moving the company forward than ever before. And I know we're giving our people the right mix of support and autonomy to make the best decisions and to ensure our continued success. We have a commitment to quality and we're focusing on innovation more than ever. Innovation is not only relevant to our new product development teams, it's relevant to each and every Brady employee being innovative about what we do and how we do it has allowed to drive three straight years of pre-tax profit improvement. It takes the entire company moving in the same direction to deliver this level of consistent financial improvement. This is something I'm proud of and something that the entire Brady team can be proud of. It’s thanks to our great employees and strong customer relationships that we're doing so well. But we're not slowing down. We're going to build on the sales growth we started this year and we're going to keep pushing for more in 2019. We must continue to invest in sales and R&D resources, while driving operational excellence in every decision we make. Our focus on reducing complexity in our global structure remains unchanged. Local managers are empowered and are expected to think, decide and act on their feet every single day. We’ve clarified roles and responsibilities throughout the global organization for our people to be confident in their decision making and clear in their actions. We have more work to do and we’re constantly pushing ourselves to find that edge and to prove everything that we do. I’m proud of our results this year and how far we’ve come over the past four years. We’ve improved our operational issues and renewed our focus on the customer. We’ve simplified our structure and delivered five quarters of organic sales growth. We’ve created an innovative culture with local ownership and accountability and we’ve delivered 12 consecutive quarters of year-over-year profit improvements. I’d now like to start the Q&A. Operator, would you please provide instructions to our listeners?

Certainly [Operator Instructions]. Our first question comes from line up George Staphos with Bank of America Merrill Lynch. Your line is now open.

Hi, thank you. This is actually Molly Baum, sitting in for George Staphos. My first question you kind of highlighted Brady’s priorities of growing the pipeline of innovative new products, CapEx has been increased to about $35 million. When you look at organic growth by segment, are there any important product categories that will be driving the growth in each segment?

Pleasure to speak with you today, Molly. Absolutely, as I mentioned, and something we’re extremely proud of is one of the backbones of a lot of the areas that we work in are our printers. And this year we’ve introduced three new printers, which as I said and it’s critical is the not only the largest number, but the most significant set of printers as a group that we’ve introduced in our history. We believe that’s not only going to be the backbone of actual printer sales, but also our consumables, which are fed through our printers in which we typically see a lag in improvement from the actual introduction of the printers themselves. So as we add more in significant printers in the product lines, we expect to see those not only grow, but we also expect to see our consumables grow. In addition, as I mentioned, we have more printer capability in the pipeline, capability that I am very excited about, that once again will continue to create a gap of differentiation between us and our competitors and once again add more consumable focus. In addition to all of that, we’re using software and our strong software capability to drive more advancements within all of our product spaces, not only things like printers, but lock out, tag out, product ID, wire ID capabilities across the board. If you think of our capabilities as a stool, we started out years ago with materials as our major leg. The material segment remains a significant and powerful resource we have, but in addition to that, we have now added and have had a strong segment for a while of hardware and mechanical capabilities to that, we have added electrical capabilities. And finally the fourth leg, that we are very proud of and believe we’re growing tremendously in is software. Integrating those four sets of capabilities is something we have been doing and something that you’re going to see in our new product line in the future.

Thank you for that, that was very helpful. My next question is on margins and IDS. They were pretty flat, maybe slightly down year-over-year in terms of comparisons, can you kind of provide a bit more color on what the offsets were to the increases in profitability in Asia that you had mentioned? Thank you.

The profitability increase in Asia, well revenue is a certain driver for us, but we have also become a much more efficient organization to Asia. Quite proud of our Asian team, we have excellent world class leadership there and I don’t use that word world class lightly, you’ll actually not hear it from out of my mouth very often. But I do feel very proud of our team there and their capabilities and their ability to really leverage both our capacity and our technological skill sets in Asia. We have strong technology base in Asia, both in Singapore and in particular also in Beijing and between that it allows us to really do a much better job of leveraging our margins.

Thank you. And then my last question, turning over to WPS, can you provide a bit more detail on the various factors that really drove the strong year-over-year margin improvement. You mentioned the improvement in catalogue spending and geographic mix, but if you could just provide a bit more color on that, that’d be helpful? Thank you.

One of the key factors is our fourth quarter does always tend to be our strongest quarter and this year geographic mix certainly helped us, as we had higher margin geographies contributing more. In addition to that, you are correct, once again the fourth quarter we typically are able to look at our advertising differently because parts of our world geography slows down in August as an example, the catalog spending prior to that is lower than you would typically see in other quarters.

Thank you, I’ll turn it over.

Thank you.

Our next question comes from Allison Poliniak with Wells Fargo. Your line is now open.

Hi, guys good morning.

Good morning, Allison.

I want to go back to the R&D question, I know you have been investing quite heavily the past few years and I know there is mix event markets and there is no home run here. But can you help us understand maybe the contribution to 2018 in terms of new products that have been developed and now are fully integrated in your system. Because I am just trying to understand the success or how we can read the success of that program.

Thank you, Allison. We don’t actually breakdown to that level, but it’s -- there is now question that we are starting to see the pipeline of products that we have developed show in our actual revenue and our sales. And that’s across the board with the exception of our healthcare products where frankly we have lagged behind versus our other product groups in creating the innovative products and we’re focusing more in that area. And so you will see that outperform in the years to come. We can go across each of our product lines internally and see the significant improvements in our sales growth are related to the new products that we’re introducing. And more importantly, I expect that growth to continue from those products and from new products that are coming out of our pipeline. But as a specific break that down, we don’t give that detail.

Okay. And then just looking at Workplace Safety, nice organic growth there of 3%. Was there any price contribution, was it volume, could you help me understand that mix in that business or organic growth?

That’s a space where we do work on price on a constant basis, particularly in the internet space. And we are managing and evaluating our price models very carefully, because it can have dramatic impact both in revenue and profitability. And so that is something that we believe we've been able to create differentiation as we pointed out through our complete packaging or custom solutions and expertise that has allowed us to get some solid price performance. In addition our volumes have gone up in general, because of the types of products that we're focusing on that we do believe we have advantages in.

Great, thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Our next question comes from Charlie Brady with SunTrust Robinson Humphrey. Your line is now open.

Hey, thanks. Good morning.

Good morning, Charlie.

Just want to go back on the margin question, I think it was Molly who was asking it on the IDS op margin down year-over-year. Can you just dig into a little bit on what the driver of that really was, it was just increased spend that's going on? And also on a segment level I didn't see any margin guidance this time around what we’ve gotten in the past. So what are the expectation for the segment margins for fiscal 2019?

Well, I'll start with the other half and then I'll flip it over to Aaron for the second half. Effectively, you can look at two big elements. Our healthcare space we've been investing strongly in it in the fourth quarter. We took a very deep look at that and with leadership there we have focused on really adding resources and capabilities. In addition, we've been increasing our R&D with purpose. And those two key factors are the elements that would drive to that margin question really the fourth quarter. As far as going into next year, Aaron?

Yes, as we look at next year and the segment profit margins, so if you look at IDS we've finished this year at I believe 16.9%, we absolutely would expect that to increase slightly next year. When you look at WPS, we finished at 9.7% this year. Now WPS is a little different story, because when you look at currency a big piece of the currency impact next year is in our Workplace Safety business because a full half of the business is in Western Europe. So they will have a bit of I'll say headwind on the margin as a percent of sales because our European businesses are very, very strong. They finished at 9.7% this year, I'd expect them to be relatively close to that next year.

And overall, Charlie that is embedded in our guidance for next year.

Absolutely is.

Yes, understood. And I guess just on the cash build, a good problem to have as suppose, but you guys are really building out substantial amount of cash. I know in the prepared remarks you went through kind of your cap allocation, the criteria or the path you want to go, how you want to spend it the ranking. But at some point with a cash level that’s continue to build either increasing the dividend some point it probably necessitates a more aggressive action one way or the other whether it's an M&A transaction, which seems that it’s been kind of backburner for a while or a significant increase in dividend or significant share buyback. And I'm just trying to get your thinking on at what level does cash build to where you say we probably ought to take more aggressive action on this?

So you are correct. Our basic approach to use of cash has not changed, as you've noticed, we're investing more and more in the business itself, which is our fundamental first priority. In particular in a couple of key areas, R&D and capital being actual infrastructure and even more exciting into the automated capabilities of our manufacturing set which is very positive both from a point of view of cost and quality throughput performances, but also in the changing workforce that we're all dealing with. But the next area obviously we focused on dividends and we're quite proud to have increased it by $0.02 versus $0.01. So you are correct, we've looked at it and believe that we can increase our dividend more significantly than we have over the last few years. But then in addition to that, we still have stock buyback as an option. And on top of that, we did and as I came onboard and you can look back four years ago had to reset our mentality on acquisitions. That does not mean that we are not looking regularly at acquisitions, we go through the key element. So first, we don't buy acquisitions for market share as a primary driver. We look at acquisitions for technology. Is there a technology that we need in one that we can't develop in a timely and cost effective manner internally? Then we look at the fact that can we find that on the outside and will it be a win-win, will the company we're acquiring win and the people involved win and Brady win. Because we believe that's fundamental to create the energy and the real positive momentum that all players involved had to win. And then the final criteria that is really challenging right now and I think you'd know that our price points for acquisitions. Obviously they're above market prices when you acquire a company typically and at this point that is all -- that is a challenge. That said, we are looking and have looked actively for a while, but we are not rushed in our approach, we're careful allocators of our capital. We feel confident that having that capital available for deployment at the right time, will serve our shareholders extremely well. So when we do an acquisition, we're going to believe it fits all of our criteria and will be one that will please our shareholder base in the long-term.

That's a very comprehensive answer, I appreciate it. And just one…

Thank you, Charlie.

Just on a sole business you broken up a revenue impact, but I am wondering what was the margin impact of that business? And going forward what is their meaningful margin impact by not having that business in the mix any longer? Thanks.

Yes, so you're right, we broke out revenues, revenue is about $16 million. Actually at the end of our last quarter we talked about the EBITDA so we sold it about a 9 times multiple. So EBITDA somewhere in the neighborhood of $2.2 million to $2.3 million. The entire gain, by the way that we recorded this quarter was recorded in selling and general and administrative expenses, not reflected in the WPS segment. So now as we look at margins going forward, you can see the margin profile of this Runelandhs business in Sweden. It’s a very nice business and frankly pretty much in line with the rest of our Workplace Safety business. So it will have, I’ll say minimal impact on the margin profile within WPS next year. But of course the $16 million of revenue now is gone.

Got it, thanks very much.

Thank you.

Our next question comes from Joe Mondillo with Sidoti. Your line is now open.

Hi, guys. Good morning.

Good morning, Joe.

Most of my questions were asked, but I did want to ask a couple of things. So Michael, the first two years that you were there, there was a lot of heavy lifting and then I would sort of phrase the last two years as being sort of just focusing on processes and focusing on the strategies that you’ve been talking about, as well as what you talked about today, processes and people in place kind of stuff. It seems like a lot of these sort of things are in place, and have been in place for a while now. So I’m just wondering sort of what your specific focuses are at this point in time?

Joe, that’s a very good point. One thing I would like to say that, I think continues to surprise the outside world is that we have a long way to go in our drive for efficiency and operational effectiveness. We talked as a team, we have looked at the outline and we have plans for significant operational improvements for the next two years. That doesn’t mean we’ll be done improving operations two years from now. But it means, we can see a specific pipeline to major improvements for the next two years. I think that is something that isn’t necessarily or wasn’t necessarily obvious to the outside, even a year or two ago, as I think many people thought we would be wrapping that up. But that’s, I believe, very good news for our organization. I said, beginning when I came here, it’s about lowering the water, looking at the rocks, and then lowering the water again. And the good news is, we still have an amazing amount of rocks that we can take advantage of. So I don’t want to undersell that potential in our business. But you’re right, most of my focus is now shifted to looking at development opportunities, looking at technological opportunities, looking at new market sets and products. And my history and what I love and passion is growing businesses and we’ve turned the corner on that and we are now working very hard to create the technological infrastructure, the product infrastructure, the market depth and capability through our development engineers, through our sales resources, through our product managers and more importantly to the innovative mentality of our company. I literally have been to all of our sales meetings in the last month and the comments back were almost 100%, it’s the best product pipeline and product offering that they have seen and many of our sales people have long experience with Brady and it gives them advantages that they are very excited to go in the market place about. And then the concepts that we have been throwing at people have made them even more excited. So, you’re right, really if I look at by focus, it has shifted for more operational to more of a growth oriented mentality.

I appreciate that. Just a sort of follow-up on that last comment. How long of a period of time have you been noticing positive feedback regarding the product -- the new product pipeline, has it been just last six months or is it been last 12 to 18 months?

So I would say the last a year ago, we started to receive a real turnaround in mentality and it has been exponentially growing and excitement and energy from our sales force, from our engineering groups and from our customers, particularly our beta side customers. Very, very positive, we have from the point of view of these solve our customers problems in unique ways that others can’t and won’t and from our sales people, this provides an incredible entry into customers, that not only love us, but customers that we really want to become stronger in.

And just in more so in IDS or both segments?

So I would start with IDS, we have got a longer pipeline strength there. But WPS is a market space where innovation had not really been our strength for many years and that difference you can see a ground swell of excitement probably in the six months' timeframe, as oppose to a year or more. As they are starting to see a pipeline of products that not only their sister divisions and business developed to help them, but they are actually developing themselves and it’s a real eye opener for a lot that organization and you’re right one that they are excited about. It takes some time, as you no though to really switch a culture and a philosophy and that is we can’t -- we had to create a strong foundation, we had to create a belief in success and we had to really point the people where we were successful and why we needed to drive even more innovation. And that’s been paying off, first as you said in IDS. But yes, I would unequivocally tell you the WPS energy and excitement around their roadmaps is much, much stronger than it was.

Okay. And then I just wanted to also ask about the healthcare business, IDS, could you just provide an update, I know you said in terms of cost and why the margins were down partially because you’re investing in that business. Is it still weak, have you noticed any sort of turn or positive indicator with that business? Any update there would be positive, that would be helpful.

We have a strong leadership team there, we have had made some significant transitions, which have been very well received. As the end result, we’re focusing more on making sure that our sales resources that really are the tip of our sphere, that allow us to show our differentiation are properly deployed and robust enough. And so we have been adding in those areas significantly. And then we have also been really looking hard at making sure that our entire organization understands not only who we are, but who we want to be. The types of products we need to develop, how we need to go to market with our customers and we are -- I am seeing the shoots of a very positive future. But as you know those shoots take a while to grow with sometimes like watching a building go up, at first you see the framework go up instantly and you say wow! This is going to be very quick, but then if you really want to make it right, you have got to make sure all the internals are strong and successful. And so the frame is up, we’re confident of that and we’re working very, very hard to make sure all the key infrastructure elements are going to be strong for a long future. But, I actually think we have significant upside potential there. But like we've had to rebuild different elements of our business at times, this is one that we're going to make sure we rebuild it right. I think I had a quarter earlier that said sometimes we invest in things that don't pay-off immediately, but will pay-off in the years and decades to come. And this is one I really believe will absolutely do for Brady.

So just a follow-up and this is my last question. It sounds like you're definitely focusing on sort of the structure of that business. How long have you been really digging in deep in terms of that structure in terms of implementing this? And then also in terms of your 2019 guidance, it sounds like maybe we see -- how would you think about 2019? Is it a maybe a slight improvement? And maybe acceleration in 2020 hopefully or sort of how you think about the outlook? And then also the in terms of when you implemented the plan.

So I made a fundamental determinations end of March beginning of April that we could not incrementally fix the problems in our healthcare space. So I would look at you and say we're working on our second strong quarter of that. I believe that you will see some differentiation in how we're doing in the second half of this year and you are correct, would accelerate more into next year.

Okay, great. Thanks a lot, appreciate it.

Thank you.

Our next question comes from Keith Housum with Northcoast Research. Your line is now open.

Good morning, guys. Thanks for the opportunity.

Good morning, Keith.

As we look at sort of commentary regarding labor and freight cost, was that some of the pressure that we saw in gross margin this quarter? And what's the ability to offset some of that pressure through the scale and operating efficiency that you're able to identify?

That's a general question around probably inflation and inflationary issues. There is no question that they're having an impact wage pressure, freight pressure, fuel pressure are all fundamental drivers for cost to go up. We're confident that our structure, the efforts that we're putting forth and you're correct, the volume drivers will be able to overcome that. And we are very, very confident in the numbers that we've projected to you despite those inflationary pressures that I'm sure you're hearing are out there across the board. Fuel and shipping is certainly a major issue for us, but one that will not fundamentally inhibit our ability to both succeed and to meet or exceed our numbers.

Got you. And then obviously printers and consumables are a critical part of the IDS business. And I'm assuming that in your commentary suggests that where a lot of the R&D focuses on. Are we working on just replacing current models, or are we expanding in the new verticals and new applications and can you give us any color about some of the things that guys are working on there?

Well I would you tell this. What we focused on does vary by quarter. We actually have a pretty broad product base in IDS. And I would say printers and consumables are a very important, but actually not even a majority part of our revenue and profit in that business space. We've got some great technological improvements going on that are extremely exciting and innovative for us in wire ID, as an example. And our lockout tagout areas we're working hard. So we have a lot of different technology spaces. So I don't want to oversell our printers as a fundamental leg, which it is of our business, but it is not the majority of the business. That said to answer your question specifically about printers, these are different printers, different capabilities, different abilities that we haven't seen in the marketplace even if some printers maybe replacing older models they're not replacing at all in the same way and the same manner.

Got it. And then so can you give me a little more color on the revenue growth guidance of 2% to 4%, and roughly 50% of your business in the U.S. and we look at GDP forecast for next year industrial reduction numbers as they stand right now. You guys usually grow GDP plus 1% or 2%. Is it something that would be a little bit higher than the 2% to 4% revenue guidance you guys are suggesting? Can you help reconcile the difference there?

Yes, I would tell you that I wish historically we have been growing at GD plus 1% or 2%. That is definitely our aspiration. If you look at our history over the last 7 to 10 years, I would tell you that if you pull out acquisitions, we've been growing negative for many years, we turn that around the flat, and from flat we turned it into growth, and from growth over the past five quarters, we are feeling good about GDP. And then you're exactly correct. My absolute unequivocal goal is to get consistent GDP plus growth. But I would say that we haven't been able to historically over the last 7 to 10 years hadn't been able to show that. But good news is you can look at our trend now and see where we're going. And I absolutely feel confident we're going to strongly get there. But we’d hold our guidance right now at the point that it’s at.

Okay, understand. A last question for you, you guys increased R&D this year quite a bit and now you guys given guidance for 7% again for next year increase? Is there a change in focus or is it additional spectrum of R&D that you guys are able to do with those increased funds or what's the plan for the increase?

Yes, we actually have had, last year we brought on a concept that many companies have had, but ended up being incredibly positive for not only idea sets, but our whole ideation culture, our whole innovation culture, we called it the Brady Big Ideas Challenge. It's an innovation challenge. Without giving you specific numbers, we created more ideas from that challenge than the people interfacing with us from the software company had seen before ever from a company our size. So there's no question that we have pint up capability and capacity within our company for innovation. As an outcome of that we're developing a number of new products, not only that were quote winners of the challenge, but once it didn't even quote win that we believe we're innovating within our company. So we've had to -- and wanted to and are excited about investing even more money in those ideas than we did out of our standard pipeline. And then on top of that we've created for the first time an incubator where we are really taking ideas that are outside the stream of a specific division. We want to make sure we get focus on them, we get funding on them, and support so that those ideas which might die within a standard structure of a division that's focused on getting there every day job done, will blossom and be successful. So we're seeing a combination.

Great, thanks. Good luck.

Thank you.

And I'm showing no further questions in queue at this time. I’d like to turn the call back to Michael Nauman for closing remarks.

Thank you. I’d like to leave you with a few concluding comments this morning. Fiscal 2018 was another strong year for us. We reported consistent organic sales growth, which we’re proud about, that’s a big turnaround. We reduced our SG&A expenses and we improved pre-tax earnings by 20%, all are increasing our investment in R&D by 14.2%. I want to make it clear that we’re investing every day for the long-term, and at the same time, we’re continuing to see very positive short-term results. We’re increasing our capital expenditures in our factories to develop more automation and we’re making sustainable improvements in our SG&A structure. Growing our pipelines of new products is critical to our long-term success and we’re committed to delivering on the increase in R&D investment that we’ve made over the past two years and continue to increase. I know that our talented team is motivated to continue our financial improvements into the future and I’m more motivated than ever. I’m proud of what we’ve accomplished so far, and I’m optimistic about the future because I know what we’re doing is working. We’re making the right moves today that will set us up deliver more as an organization to our customers, our employees and our shareholders for years to come. As always, if you have questions, please contact us. Thank you all for participating today and have a great day. Operator, you may disconnect the call.

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