Peter Ho
Analyst · Bank of America.
Yes. So yes, that's really the question these days isn't it? The -- maybe take a slightly higher lens view of the situation. We're -- in the last five years, if you look at our expense trend, our investment expenditures have grown by about 11%, just over 11% annually. So, obviously, a big investment in the categories like technology or data analytics or marketing or e-commerce and those types of things. The overall growth of expenses in the Company has been 3%. And so kind of those non-strategic areas, those areas other than what we deem to be investment in strategic, has grown at 0.9% clip. So, we've been able to accommodate the investments that we think we need to do. Clearly, the world is changing and clearly, consumers are changing. And who's paid for that is, in fact, kind of every other expenditure. So as we move forward, the challenge is, we do see a more inflationary environment. Obviously, I don't think we can keep kind of other expenses kind of the rest of the Company at 1%, call it, that's got to go up. But I think what will happen to, Ebrahim, is clearly that 11% was not an intended sustainable CAGR. I mean that number is going to come down meaningfully. And so, I think what we're going to land out is kind of a 4%-ish kind of annual growth rate. That, as you know, for Bank of Hawaii is a little bit on the high end. But I think we're just in a different inflationary environment than we have been previously. And there's still some investment spend to be made, but I'll tell you, a good portion of that is already built into our expense bloodstream. And so a lot of the kind of pre-work that you got to do to get these platforms, whether it's marketing or e-commerce going, it takes a lot of upfront expense.