BioLineRx Ltd. (BLRX) Q3 2023 Earnings Report, Transcript and Summary

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. Welcome to the BioLineRx Third Quarter 2023 Financial Results Conference Call. All participants are presently in a listen-only mode. Following management’s formal presentation, instructions will be given for the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] I would now like to turn the call over to John Lacey, Head of Investor Relations and Corporate Communications. John, please go ahead.

Thank you, Johnny. Welcome, everyone. Thank you for joining us on our third quarter 2023 results conference call. Earlier today, we issued a press release, a copy of which is available in the Investor Relations section of our website. It was also filed as a 6-K. I'd like to remind you that certain statements we make during the call will be forward-looking. If have such statements due to future events and are subject to more risks and uncertainty actual results may differ materially from those in the forward-looking statements. For a full discussion of these risks and uncertainty, please review our annual report on Form 20-F and our quarterly report on Form 6-K that are filed with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission. At this time, it is now my pleasure to turn the call over to Mr. Phil Serlin Chief Executive Officer of BioLineRx.

Thank you, John, and good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us on today's call. Joining me today are Holly May, President of BioLineRx USA; and Mali Zeevi, our Chief Financial Officer. In addition, Ella Sorani, our Chief Development Officer, will be joining the call for Q&A. I will begin with an overview of our Stem Cell Mobilization program, then Holly will provide an update on the effects to launch of activities and progress. I will then provide an update on our other clinical programs, notably the Motixafortide program in PDAC and Sickle Cell Disease. Finally, Mali will provide a discussion of our financial results. We will then open up the call and are looking forward to your questions. We have made substantial progress since our last quarterly update with our Stem Cell Mobilization program. We were very pleased to announce in September the U.S. FDA approval of Motixafortide known commercially as APHEXDA in combination with G-CSF to mobilize hematopoietic stem cells for collection and subsequent autologous transplantation in patients with multiple myeloma. The approval of APHEXDA is the culmination of tireless work by the entire BioLineRx team and transitions us to a commercial stage company that is bringing the patients, physicians and caregivers, the first true advancement in stem cell mobilization in more than a decade. And Holly will detail shortly, we have built out our U.S. commercial infrastructure, which has been engaging in pre-and post-launch activities to support a robust future for APHEXDA. Feedback from our initial outreach to top-tier transplant centers across the U.S. suggest that APHEXDA fills a significant unmet need for a more effective mobilization regimen, conferring benefits to centers, payers and patients alike. This encouraging feedback gives us great optimism the long-term opportunity that is in front of us. There are many factors driving the need for improved stem cell mobilization regimen several of which we have covered in our prior calls. The population of multiple myeloma patients undergoing autologous Stem Cell Mobilization has expanded to include older patients over the past decade, with 36% of patients aged 65 or over in 2021, older age has been shown to impair Stem Cell Mobilization as stem cell counts decreased with age. In addition, the introduction of stronger induction therapies has further impaired mobilization, including drugs such as lenalidomide and natalizumab (ph), which are often given in combination. As a result, many patients may require multiple apheresis sessions. Recall that the approval of APHEXDA was based on results from the highly successful GENESIS Phase 3 clinical trial and in this contemporary trial, most patients received lenalidomide containing induction regimen and the median age in the Motixafortide treatment arm was approximately 64 years old. Particularly relevant to the transplant centers in the GENESIS trial affect the plus G-CSF enabled almost 90% of patients who proceed to transplantation after only one apheresis session. Also, as a reminder, multiple myeloma is the second most common hematologic malignancy and autologous stem cell transplantation remains the standard of care treatment and has been shown to prolong the lives of patients with this cancer type. And historically, depending on treatment regimens, up to 47% of patients have faced challenges mobilizing the target number of stem cell after one session. With APHEXDA as a potential backbone of a new mobilization paradigm, we are optimistic that many more multiple myeloma patients will be candidates for this life extending procedure and will benefit from what we are calling an A-plus transplantation experience. And at this point, I'd like to turn the call over to Holly May, President of BioLineRx USA for a review of our launch activities. Holly, please go ahead.

Thank you, Phil. As Phil indicated, the approval of APHEXDA for stem cell mobilization in multiple myeloma patients represents the first true advancement in stems mobilization in over a decade. Our decision to commercialize effects to independently in the U.S. is key to our efforts to make this new mobilization agent available to transplant centers and patients as quickly as possible. I would now like to provide a brief update on our recent and ongoing activity supporting the commercial launch, which we initiated immediately after APHEXDA approval. First, it may be helpful to provide some statistics that support the significant opportunity that is in front of us, not just in terms of potential sales, but also an ability to help thousands of patients who today are having great difficulty mobilizing enough stem cells for transplantation. As a reminder, there are approximately 35,000 patients diagnosed with multiple myeloma each year in the U.S. And of those, we estimate that about 18,000 are eligible for autologous stem cell transportation. On these eligible patients, approximately 8,000 procedures per annually, a figure that has nearly doubled since 2010. Autologous stem cell transportation remains the preferred first-line treatment for patients with multiple myeloma. However, due to a number of factors, including an aging patient population and the increased use of three and four drug induction therapies, as Phil indicated, up to 47% of patients have had challenges collecting the target number of stem cells in one apheresis session. As we will cover in more detail shortly, the requirements for multiple apheresis session leads to potentially more adverse events, higher costs and tremendous inconvenience and mental hardship for patients. With the efficacy demonstrated in Phase 3 GENESIS trial, which supported the approval of effects to indecent indication, we believe we can overcome these challenges. We believe we are highly differentiated as a novel second-generation mobilization agent and that we have a significant value proposition for all stakeholders, that includes centers, patients and payers. Staying on the topic of differentiation for a moment, we have done extensive research on the market and have deep appreciation of the evolving landscape. Since our last earnings call and as expected, multiple abbreviated new drug applications or ANDA have been approved for generic [indiscernible] leading to rapid and significant price erosion for the first-generation mobilization agent. This is something that we anticipated and what we have incorporated into our model. And why we consider, plerixafor to be in the same overall market basket at APHEXDA, it is not the same as APHEXDA. We have a highly differentiated product profile based on our stronger and more consistent mobilization outcomes. And our early discussions with customers support that the centers appreciate the innovation as we look to address their need for a better mobilizer. As such, we have indicated previously that we have price effects at [indiscernible] per vial. We believe this price adequately reflects the value that APHEXDA adds to the autologous stem cell transplant treatment landscape. Further, notwithstanding the existence of lower-priced generic plerixafor. We believe the differentiated clinical attributes APHEXDA will drive long-term adoption and allow it to evolve into the new standard of care for mobilization. Over time, we strongly believe that differentiation will outweigh drug price as centers adopt the best treatment paradigm for their patients. As we indicated previously, our first priority has been to educate transplant centers on the unmet need of roughly 8,000 patients who progress to autologous stem cell transplant each year. We estimate the top 80 centers out of the band 212 nationally perform approximately 85% of all stem cell transplant procedures. Since approval, we have established initial contact with all of our top-tier centers and root activity has been extremely high. Increases shares can be in short supply at many transplant center and the potential for APHEXDA to allow for the collection of the targeted number of stem cells quite often in a single apheresis session should allow for the more efficient scheduling and utilization of those tiers. This is of significant value to transplant centers, particularly those that perform a high number of procedures. We are in ongoing discussions with pharmacy and therapeutics committees at those centers that require positive PMP formulary decision prior to trialing the product and including APHEXDA in their protocols. We are making consistent and steady progress. We believe an important factor driving the future success of APHEXDA is inclusion in clinical treatment guidelines. Shortly after approval, APHEXDA was included in the national clinical practice guidelines in oncology otherwise known as NCCN, for stem cell mobilization broadly, including multiple myeloma. The American Society for transplantation in cellular therapy or ASTCT is also working on updated guidelines, which we anticipate next year. Currently, ASTCT to [indiscernible] recommendations call for a recommended collection target of 3 million to 5 million cells per program and double that target with multiple transplants are planned. Recall that in the GENESIS trial, the median number of CD34 stem cells collected on the first day of apheresis was $8.5 million in the treatment arm versus $1.5 million in the control arm. As Phil indicated earlier, the addition of Motixafortide to G-CSF also allowed 88.3% of patients to undergo transplantation after only one apheresis session compared to 10.8% in the G-CSF, given the demonstrated performance of APHEXDA relative to the current treatment guidelines, we are confident that we will ultimately gain inclusion. Turning now to payers. The success of any new therapeutic launch is contingent upon establishing broad, affordable access from a coverage and reimbursement perspective. This includes not only national and regional commercial health plans, but also the centers for Medicare and Medicaid services since a significant number of multiple myeloma patients are older and therefore, receive their health care through Medicare. The immediate upfront cost of stem cell collection independent of drug costs is 13,850 per patient and can range from 6,300 (ph) to $48,500 and the cost of one apheresis session is 6,200 to 6,600 again independent of drug costs. For the ability to more predictably and reliably achieve the target number of stem cells required for transplantation and fewer apheresis sessions can result in significant savings to payers over time. Payers view the effects of clinical data very favorably. And as a result, we have already established unrestricted access to over 90% of covered lives. This represents a mix of both commercial and government payers, and we continue to work to increase this number so that APHEXDA is as broadly accessible to patients as possible. In summary, I am very pleased with our launch progress to date. Both our commercial and medical affairs teams, which include many individuals with decades of experience in both stem cell mobilization and multiple myeloma are generating results in the early stages of this launch as we continue to engage with top transplant centers, physician leaders and payers on this exciting new treatment option. At this point, I'll turn the call back to Phil to provide an update on our other programs.

Thank you, Holly. At this point, I would like to provide an update on opportunities that we are pursuing in Stem Cell Mobilization for multiple myeloma outside of the United States. Just a few weeks ago, we closed an exclusive license agreement with the development commercialization of Motixafortide in Asia across multiple indications. As part of the agreement in Stem Cell Mobilization cell mobilization, our partner, Gloria Biosciences plans to execute a 30 to 50 patient bridging study in China to support approval and commercialization of APHEXDA for Stem Cell Mobilization in multiple myeloma. And we'll also seek approval in other Asian countries. In prior clinical trials, Gloria Biosciences has demonstrated an ability to enroll patients quickly, and we believe they will be able to complete this trial with similar efficiency. In 2022, it is estimated that Asia had over 51,000 reported cases of multiple myeloma, the largest number of multiple myeloma cases globally. So this is an area of great unmet need in those territories as well. And in China, autologous stem cell translocation for multiple myeloma is already included in medical insurance reimbursement. We continue to evaluate additional commercialization partnership opportunities in significant markets for APHEXDA in stem cell mobilization. Turning now to our second development indication for Motixafortide pancreatic cancer, our license agreement with Gloria Biosciences covers this indication as well. Gloria Biosciences is a leader in the development of cancer immunotherapies in Greater China having developed and commercially launched the anti-PD-1 monoclonal antibody, zimberelimab, which is approved in the region for relapsed or refractory classical Hodgkin lymphoma into a recurrent or metastatic cervical cancer. Gloria Biosciences went from IND to commercialization of zimberelimab in its first indication in China in only four years. So we believe they are uniquely positioned to explore the potential utility of Motixafortide in combination trials against this difficult to treat cancer. Recapping the terms of the agreement, we received $15 million upfront and are eligible to receive up to approximately $50 million in development milestones based on the achievement of specific development milestones in China and Japan. Additionally, we are eligible to receive up to approximately $200 million in potential commercial milestones and royalties ranging from 10% to 20% of net sales following the approval of Motixafortide in any indication in the Asia region. In addition, the transaction included an equity investment of $14.6 million in BioLineRx, with the purchase of newly issued American depositary shares and of price at $2.14 per ADS. No warrants were issued in the transaction. In other PDAC developments in July, we announced the initiation of a randomized Phase 2 combination clinical trial of Motixafortide first-line pancreatic cancer. The trial known as CheMo4METPANC is sponsored by Columbia University, and it was recommended to precede the randomized phase of the study based on the very compelling preliminary data in the single-arm pilot phase of the study. Recall that the original pilot study was to enroll approximately 10 patients and was to be expanded to 30 patients if data from the first 10 patients were encouraging which was defined as three or more patients showing the partial response per the RECIST criteria. As we recently presented at the AACR Special Conference on Pancreatic Cancer in September, seven of 11 patients were 64% experienced a partial response, of which five were confirmed PRs with one patient even experiencing resolution of the metastatic lesion in the liver. Along with the three patients were 27% experiencing stable disease, this resulted in a disease control rate of 91%. These findings compare very favorably to historic partial response and disease control rate of 23% and 48%, respectively, reported with the current standard of care. Based on these compelling data, the original trial design was amended from a single-arm study with a target enrollment of 30 patients is mentioned to a much larger randomized study of 108 patients. The trial's primary endpoint is progression-free survival PFS. Secondary objectives include safety, response rate, disease control rate, duration of clinical benefit and overall survival. Enrollment in the study is expected to begin in the next few months. As is well known, PDAC is a tumor type in dire need of new effective treatment options. Neuro immunotherapies have shown promise in other tumor types with limited efficacy in PDAC due to immunosuppressive pathways. On our more optimism for this trial is also based on the success of our COMBAT/KEYNOTE-202 triple combination Phase 2a study for which we announced results in December 2020. Recall that the COMBAT/KEYNOTE study evaluated the combination of motixafortide, KEYTRUDA and chemotherapy as a second-line therapy. Substantial improvement was observed across all study end points including overall survival, progression fee survival and overall response in the most challenging PDAC patients, those initially diagnosed with stage four cancer. The combination also appeared to be well tolerated with a low incidence of neutropenia and infections in treated patients. Needless to say, we are excited about the potential of Motixafortide to form the backbone of new PDAC treatment regimens giving new hope to patients suffering from this very difficult to treat tumor type, while demonstrating the versatility of Motixafortide across both hematological and solid tumor cancers. It is also worth mentioning that based on the promising data to date in PDAC, we see opportunities to explore Motixafortide as part of exciting new combination therapies to treat other solid tumor types. This only adds to our optimism for the long-term potential of this molecule. Another area where we are exploring the potential utility of Motixafortide in autologous hematopoietic stem cell-based gene therapy for patients suffering from sickle cell disease one of the most common genetic diseases globally. To that end, in March, we announced the clinical trial collaboration with Washington University School of Medicine to evaluate Motixafortide in this indication. Unlike multiple myeloma patients, the current standard of care mobilization G-CSF carries significant risks and potential severe side effects for patients suffering from sickle cell disease. Furthermore, in many cases, current mobilization treatments fail to reliably yield optimal number of stem cells to facilitate gene therapy. As such, this patient population is in need of an effective new mobilization regimen. Through this collaboration, we are conducting a proof-of-concept trial to study Motixafortide as both a single agent and in combination with the immunomodulator, natalizumab. The study is evaluating the safety and tolerability of the two regimens as mobilization agents of CD34+ in motixafortide stem cells in patients with sickle cell disease. Study enrollment has recently begun, and we anticipate data in the second half of 2024. I would now like to turn the call over to Mali Zeevi, our CFO, who will give a brief overview of our main financial results. Mali, please go ahead.

Thank you, Phil. As is our practice in our financial discussion on this call, we will only go over the most significant items in our financial statements. Sales and marketing expenses, research and development expenses, non-operating expenses, net loss and cash. Therefore, let me invite you to review the filings we made this morning, which contain our financials, 20-F and press release for additional information. Sales and marketing expenses for the three months ended September 30, 2023 were $8.1 million, an increase of $6.8 million or 517.4% compared to $1.3 million for the corresponding period last year. The increase resulted from the significant launch-related activities for Motixafortide in the U.S. Research and development expenses for the three months ended September 30, 2023 were $2.7 million, a decrease of $1.6 million or 37.6% compared to $4.3 million for the corresponding period last year. The decrease resulted primarily from lower expenses for NDA supporting activities related to Motixafortide as well as lower expenses associated with the completed AGI-134 clinical trials. Non-operating expenses for the three months ended September 30, 2023 were $3.1 million, an increase of $3.5 million compared to nonoperating income of $0.4 million for the corresponding period last year. The increase relates primarily to a non-cash expense from revaluation of outstanding warrants due to an increase in the company's share price during the 2023 period. Let me now turn to net loss. Net loss for the three months ended September 30, 2023, was $16 million compared to $6.8 million for the corresponding period last year. Net loss for the nine months ended September 30, 2023, amounted to $46.7 million compared to $19.2 million for the corresponding period last year. The increases in net loss for both the three and the nine months period in 2023 were primarily due to the significant nonoperating expenses related to revaluation of outstanding warrants as well as the significant increases in sales and marketing expenses related to launch activities which were partially offset by a decrease in research and development expenses. The company emphasizes the non-cash expenses associated with the warrant revaluation did not impact its cash position as of September 30, 2023, note that they affect the company's projected cash runway going forward. Turning to cash. The company held $26 million of cash, cash equivalents and short-term bank deposits as of September 30, 2023. This does not include the roughly $30 million consideration from the license agreement and the equity investment in the deal with Gloria Biosciences nor does it include the $30 million available to us under our debt agreement with Kreos Capital, which is tied to the attainment of certain milestones. We believe we are well financed to fund our operations as currently planned into 2025. And with that, I'll turn the call back over to Phil.

Thank you, Mali. In closing, as is our custom, I would like to take a few moments to summarize our key upcoming milestones. Commercial ramp-up of effects to U.S. sales and an ongoing evaluation of commercial partnership opportunities for APHEXDA in additional markets. Recruitment in the chemo for met Phase 2 randomized clinical trial in first-line PDAC sponsored by Columbia University. Recruitment in the Phase I pilot study of Motixafortide Hematopoietic Stem Cell Mobilization for gene therapies in sickle cell disease led by Washington University School of Medicine with initial data expected in the second half of 2024. Initiation by Gloria Biosciences of a 30 to 50 patient bridging study in 2024 to support approval of APHEXDA and Stem Cell Mobilization for multiple myeloma in China in preparation activities with Gloria Biosciences on a randomized Phase II/III clinical trial, evaluating ixaportid in combination with the PD-1 inhibitor zimberelimab and standard of care combination chemotherapy in first-line pancreatic cancer. With that, we have now concluded the formal part of our presentation. Operator, we will now open the call to questions.

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, at this time, we will begin the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] The first question is from Joe Pantginis of H.C. Wainright. Please go ahead.

Hi, everybody. Good morning. Thank for taking the questions. And first, I just wanted to extend my well wishes to everybody, not only for these difficult and turbulent times, but also for the holidays. So we have all of our best -- so I'd like to focus on two things for stem cell transplantation and then one on PANC (ph), if you don't mind. So first, Holly, I really appreciate all the details that it definitely is encouraging to hear all the details that you shared about the launch. So hopefully, I'm not getting too much into the weeds because it is early. I guess, when you're early in the launch, I'm just considering what places or areas that you feel the company has had nimble in according to the plans that you had and saying, okay, we learned we might need more emphasis in a particular geography or anything of that such of those details. Yeah.

Holly, go ahead.

Yeah. Sure. Thanks, Joe. So much of what we're doing right now is as expected as planned. We have said this previously, I spoke again in my comments this morning about the fact that transplant centers make up about 85% of all of the transplantations in the U.S. And therefore, we are -- we have a deployment plan with field individuals, both sales account type people as well as medical affairs type people. And I think we kind of got that one right. The deployment plans and our ability to reach and hit the right frequency with in those institutions is spot on. I think one of the things that's been interesting for us, I don't know if it's a huge shift, but it's been interesting to speak to some of these decision makers within the centers about the -- what we would -- we have three pillars of value -- and the one I think that maybe not surprising, but we're finding a lot of interest in is that the efficiency of this product. And that has to do really around the planning and logistics asset centers as well as the pharmacokinetics. So that's an area I think that we are spending perhaps a little bit more time than maybe we had originally the strong clinical data, which is our efficacy pillar the Phase 3 GENESIS data is resonating quite well. But I think the thing that we're spending some more time on is probably the efficiency and what that means. I do want to add, though, you didn't ask this, but the third, I've spoken about the efficacy and the efficiency of the other really important part of our value proposition is the experience that patient experience as well. So we are out there with all of that messaging, but the one I think that we're really finding to resonate for maybe a few more questions than we initially thought was that efficiency color.

That's really, really helpful. Thank you for that. And I guess the thing that I'm curious about is because it's pretty intriguing is the fact that it's huge that you're on the NCCN guidelines. And you said for SCM broadly, so I wanted to get a sense of how that impacts your potential development plan. And I know you can't really talk to off-label use in other indications, but I think this could help drive, I guess, how you develop for other indications. I don't know if you have any comments on that.

Holly, do you want to take that?

I can. Yes. So we are very much staying the course on thinking about what we want to do for add-on indications, either things that would be driven within our own clinical planning. We do have an active IS independent sponsored studies that is open and available for various institutions or physicians that have an area of interest [indiscernible] in stem cell mobilization. We are constantly looking at the data that required for making sure that we shore up our label and that. But I'm certainly not going to speak at all to any kind of off-label utilization that the guidelines may or may not afford. Did that answer your question?

It does. I'd like to add something.

Joe, I’d like to add something -- I just I'm sorry, I sorry to interrupt you. I just wanted to add, first of all, hi, good to speak to you. But I do want to add, we mentioned the gene therapy in the sickle cell disease area. And obviously, that's an area that we're putting a lot of focus on in a big way. And so we see that as a very key life cycle management upside for the company.

Great. And then just the last question. I mean, short question, but maybe more elaborate answer. Maybe. The Phase II pilot study being run with Colombia. Obviously, you're having a nice expansion into a larger set of patients. I guess a question this way. To what extent do data from this study impact or serve as a rate-limiting step for potential business development?

Okay. So let me just make sure that I understand. So I mean, I mean I think I do understand. I think we are obviously looking to generate data I think that we've made it clear that we are looking to generate data to move this forward. We were -- we entered into agreement with Gloria Biosciences. In Asia, part of that deal, a significant part of that deal is for them to generate Phase IIb data in a randomized study, Phase II, III data in a randomized study in PDAC and we're running this trial or we're cooperating or collaborating with Columbia University in this IST trial. Depending on the data, we are hoping to be able to take this data and move forward from a business development perspective and speaking with large pharma companies, that would be the idea. Of course, I'm not ruling out us potentially taking this forward ourselves depending on the situation. but it's likely in a very significant indication like this. And when we're talking about PDAC, we're not only talking about PDAC. We look at this as sort of as a proof of concept for other solid tumors as well. And so obviously, that would speak to a larger company conducting many studies, many Phase III studies across the board in order to get broad approval in a number of indications. So I hope that answered your question. I think that we're looking at this as a potential launch launching pad, so to speak, for business development with larger companies in this particular area of solid tumors.

It certainly answer the question. I appreciate the color and as usual what I’m hearing personally is that you continue to have a lot of optionality going forward. Thanks a lot guys.

Thank you.

Thank you.

The next question is from John Vandermosten of Zacks. Please go ahead.

All right. Thank you and hello, Phil, Holly and Mali. As the previous -- as Joe mentioned, APHEXDA was added to the NCCN guidelines, how quickly is a change like that incorporated into practice?

Holly, do you want to take that?

Sure. I mean from a market access perspective, that's what many of these payers will mean on it for decisions about the reimbursability, et cetera. So from an NCCN perspective, pretty much immediately.

That’s great. And then looking at gene therapy, I mean, personally, I think that's one of the greater options that you guys have out there. You've got quite a few. But there was recently a sickle cell disease drug approved Vertex, I think, in the UK. And I think they're also applied in the EU and the U.S. as well. Is that what are the bottlenecks there in terms of gene therapy for sickle cell disease is stem cell mobilization part of the bottleneck there. Is that approval and potentially two others and somewhere where you can get into as well? I mean you're doing work there. Maybe you can help me understand kind of how that drug that just got approved in the UK might be something that you could take advantage of.

Holly, do you want to take that? I mean...

Why don't I begin and then you can add on if I set some gap. And I may be a good one to ask just because it's a world I came from. So prior to this, I was the Chief Commercial Officer at a gene therapy company. So I certainly understand the challenges -- we also know that both Vertex and Bluebird are looking at PDUFA dates in December here in the U.S., so that could be significant. I think that the thing that is that gene therapy company to these ex-vivo gene therapy customers are always looking to solve for is that entire patient journey and what kind of improvements can be made. And that can happen on several different fronts conditioning with one area that, of course, they're always looking at, but also [indiscernible] is another area. And I think this is especially true with sickle cell disease because the standard for mobilization. We see it with our multiple myeloma indication is G-CSF plus a mobilizer such as APHEXDA and with that, we know that sickle stop patients are unable to be unable to use G-CSF in sickle cell patients. So I think it produces a an appendage situation in sickle cell. That's not to say that symptom mobilization isn't also something that's looked at for some of these other applications. And in the future as these come to market. We will -- we could also be looking at those. But right now, of course, our efforts are focused on the high unmet need in sickle cell. And as has been announced, we do have the study at Wash, which is looking at some of that. So did I forget into, was there anything you wanted to add to that?

I think I might want to add. I think we've mentioned this previously, but we look at this area as something that we can really, really find a real place for it. There is an unmet need. There's a huge amount of cells that are required to be mobilized in -- for gene therapy. We're talking about 15 million to 20 million CD34+ positive cells per kilogram. And just for example, in multiple myeloma, our phase III, we're talking about 6 million cells per kilogram. And so a significantly higher number of cells need to be mobilized in order to move forward in gene therapy. And in addition, as Holly mentioned, these patients cannot receive G-CSF and therefore, it's that much more difficult to mobilize. So the current mobilization regimen require these patients to go through multiple cycles of after recessions and mobilization and collection with usually a 30-day period between each cycle. So therefore, the collection of the cells could be something that takes two to three months or even longer in some circumstances. And therefore, we hope and we think that we may be able to show better mobilization and perhaps even reduce the number of mobilization cycles to a bare minimum and therefore, save a significant amount of time and discomfort for the sickle cell patients since that's the idea behind our value proposition there.

There's one other thing that you were speaking that I thought I would add on that is very unique about these approaches to gene therapy that you mentioned, in particular, John, the Vertex product. And that is the manufacturing and the manufacturing of the cells that go into that. That's one -- another reason why a very high number of CD34+ themselves are required for these types of therapies just because there's always the need for backup in case something this is personalized medicine and gene therapy, obviously, that is manufactured for the individual. And so there is always a need for back up through the manufacturing processes, which just, again, drives the need for a very, very high number of stem cells.

Okay. Great. Yeah. It will be exciting to see how this turns out with that product and maybe you guys will be involved. A couple of questions on -- there's been a lot of, I guess, cash flow movements and share movements recently. And I'm wondering if you can give me some kind of sense of where cash and share balance might be at the beginning of the -- at the end of the year, beginning of the year, December 31. Can you help me with that?

Yes. So I mean, I think we discussed our cash. We including the almost $30 million that we received from the deals or the agreements, the license and the equity investment. We have in excess of $50 million in cash on a pro forma basis, which, as we mentioned, is enough to take us into 2025. We also, as Molly mentioned, we have a $30 million debt facility that's available to us. And so we feel quite comfortable from a cash perspective that we can meet everything that we need to do from a launch perspective in the near future. from that. So as a -- you also asked about the number of shares, is that what you asked? Do you want to?

Yes, yes, exactly.

I think what Molly. No, but in ADS, I think we have about 70. We have somewhere -- the exact number is in front of me. I apologize. I think it's somewhere around 70 million (ph) outstanding ADSs.

Okay. Great. And then last one for me is just any kind of revenue guidance that you can provide us for the fourth quarter?

Yes. I mean that’s the question. So listen, John, I mean, we’re happy, as Holly mentioned, we’re happy with the way things are progressing. And there’s a lot of activity that we’re doing on all fronts, hospitals KOLs. The committees, P&T committees, as you know, we also got on the NCCN guidelines, et cetera. But as I’m sure you’re aware, we can’t, of course, get into sales forecast and companies usually don’t give forecast on commercial launches. And so that’s about all we can say at this point.

Right. I mean, lots of [indiscernible] there. Well thank you. You guys are in a great place and I appreciate you taking my questions.

Thanks so much.

This concludes the question-and-answer session. Before I ask Mr. Phil Serlin to go ahead with his closing statement, I would like to remind participants that a replay of this call is scheduled to begin 2 hours after the conference. In the U.S. please call 1 (888) 295-2634. In Israel, please call (03) 925-5904. Internationally, please call 9723-9255-904. Mr. Serlin, would you like to make your concluding statements?

Yes. Thank you, operator. In closing, we are progressing through 2023 with significant momentum. We are launching our first therapy in stem cell mobilization and are making significant progress, raising awareness of the many benefits APHEXDA can bring to payers and transplant centers. We completed our first ex-U.S. partnership agreement for APHEXDA and are evaluating the potential of commercial partnerships in other significant markets. We have made important additional life cycle management steps through both our PDAC program as well as our program for stem cell mobilization for gene therapies. I am very pleased with our progress during the third quarter, and I'm excited about what we are in the process of achieving. Thank you all very much for your continued interest in BioLineRx. We look forward to providing our next comprehensive quarterly update in March. Be safe, and have a great day.

Thank you. This concludes the BioLineRx third quarter 2023 conference call. Thank you for your participation. You may go ahead and disconnect.