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Operator

Operator

Good evening, and welcome to the Eastside Distilling First Quarter 2024 Financial Results Conference Call. [Operator Instructions]. Please note, this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Tiffany Milton, Controller. Please go ahead. Thank you.

Tiffany Milton

Analyst

Good evening, everyone, and thank you for joining us today to discuss Eastside Distilling's financial results for the first quarter of 2024. I'm Tiffany Milton, Eastside's Controller. And joining us on today's call to discuss these results is Geoffrey Gwin, the company's Chief Executive Officer; and Conor Kilkenny, Craft CEO. Following our remarks, we will open the call to your questions. Now before we begin with prepared remarks, we submit for the record the following statement. Certain matters discussed on this conference call by the management of Eastside Distilling may be forward-looking statements within the meaning of Section 27A of the Securities Act of 1933 as amended, Section 21E of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 as amended, and such forward-looking statements are made pursuant to the safe harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. The forward-looking statements describe future expectations, plans, results or strategies and are generally preceded by words such as may, future, plan or planned, will or should, expected, anticipates, draft, eventually or projected. Listeners are cautioned that such statements are subject to a multitude of risks and uncertainties that could cause future circumstances, events or results to differ materially from those projected in the forward-looking statements. Such matters involve risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially, including, but not limited to, the company's acceptance and the company's products in the market, success in obtaining new customers, success in product development, ability to execute the business model and strategic plans, success in integrating acquired entities and assets, ability to obtain capital, ability to continue its going concern and all the risks and related information described from time to time in the company's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, including the financial statements and related information pertaining to the company's annual report on Form 10-K for the year ended December 31, 2023, filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Now with that said, I'd like to turn the call over to Geoffrey Gwin. Geoffrey, please proceed.

Geoffrey Gwin

Analyst

Great. Thank you, Tiffany, and welcome to our first quarter 2024 conference call. We have a lot to discuss this quarter. In addition to Tiffany, I'm excited to have Conor Kilkenny join us today. Conor joined Eastside in January as the CEO of Craft and comes to us with an extensive background in manufacturing. Conor will share some of his first impressions of Crafts business and outlook in a moment. Now if you're new to the company, we operate 2 distinctly unique businesses, including a Craft Beverage services business, which we refer to as Craft. And we also have a Spirits business, which sells a number of great brands, including Burnside whiskeys, Portland Potato Vodka and Azunia Tequila, primarily in the Pacific Northwest as well as other regional markets. Now one particular highlight in our company is the investment craft and digital can printing a couple of years ago. This is a very new technology that allows us to decorate 100% recyclable aluminum cans for the Craft Beverage segment. This is a very exciting business opportunity for us as one of the most dynamic and competitive spaces in consumer packaging. Now new entrants in this category are faced with tough decisions as they chart at out to market. It's a crowded space and extremely expensive to launch a new beverage brand. Think about it. How many new products have you come across in your daily life over the last year? Now I'd be surprised if you actually guess that number correctly. I suspect you'd be way off on that number. But the reality is many new products are simply out, go unnoticed. They simply show up. You may notice them briefly, but they fade away and the morass of all the new ideas and concepts we see daily. Now for…

Conor Kilkenny

Analyst

Thank you, Conor. I'll summarize the financial results for the quarter, and then we will take questions. On a consolidated basis, our gross sales were $2.5 million for the first quarter of $24 million and $2.9 million for Q1 '23, primarily due to bulk Spirit sales of $600,000, offset by an increase in printed can sales. Craft sales were $1.8 million for '24 and $1.5 million for '23 as printing is finally gaining its full potential. Spirit sales were $600,000 for '24 and $1.4 million for '23, decreasing as a result of the bulk spirit sales in Q1 2023. Our consolidated gross profit was $200,000 for Q1 '24 and $600,000 for 2023, primarily due to our bulk spirit sales in Q1 '23 of $500,000 and -- our consolidated gross margins were 8% for 24% and 22% for 2023. Craft had margins of 3% for 24 and negative 7% for 2023. Spirits margins were 23% for 24 and 54% for 2023, primarily related to the book spirit sales. Operating expenses were $1.2 million for Q1 '24 and $1.9 million for Q1 '23, a decrease of almost $650,000. Our lower expenses reflect the success of our restructuring efforts throughout 2023. Our net loss was $1.3 million for Q1 '24 and $1.6 million for Q1 '23, and our adjusted EBITDA was flat at about negative $800,000 for both periods. We will now open the floor for questions. Operator?

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions]. The first question today is from Sean McGowan with ROTH.

Sean McGowan

Analyst

Can you give us a little clearer sense of the ramp-up of output on the digital can printer? Like what kind of ramp up you're seeing there?

Geoffrey Gwin

Analyst

I'll start and I'll let Conor add anything if you'd like to. I think we're seeing it really meet our expectation in the first quarter on volume. As Conor said, I mean the year-over-year comparison is there's really no comparison, we're really fully into 24/7 printing now. And that basically puts this thing on path to get to full capacity here shortly. There'll be opportunities to get more out of it here, but I see ourselves really on path here to fill the machine up. And I expect that we'll be in a position later in the quarter, later in the year to announce more capacity coming online in the facility. So we'll be able to double what we're producing with one machine. So I'm very pleased with the ramp-up. And Conan has done a fabulous job debottlenecking it, but more over than that, getting out into the field and really seeing the customer base understand where the market is and pulling people over the fence into the digital printing landscape. I can't stress how important that is today because once you get them over and you convert their supply chain and you start to really show them what they can do with this new packaging, then you're really in a position to just build off. And this is a reoccurring business, too, right? So we're going to resell the stuff every cycle. So Sean, I think I'm pleased with where we are in the ramp-up.

Sean McGowan

Analyst

I don't know if there's going to be more details on too, but the actual number, the revenue number wasn't too far off from what I have, but I'm just wondering how we got there. Like are you getting the pricing you're expecting? Are you getting number of cans up to where you want it to be?

Geoffrey Gwin

Analyst

We were a little lower on cans than we expected, but part of that was getting into the quarter. We had to really scramble to make sure we had the machine working at the level that we needed to get the volume that we're expecting and the consistency and the reliability that we're looking for. But there have been some price investment with larger customers to bring them over, but not as much as could be expected. And again, what we're seeing and Conor can echo this, probably is the breadth of customers, Sean, that are moving over is wider than I expected. So for example, if you're going to enjoy Dodgers baseball game this summer, you're going to be drinking beer out of a can we printed. We're starting to do business for other college groups that are part of the NIL right? So this is not going after the same large customers and fighting for them over price, these are starting to be customers that specifically need something unique like this who are looking for something where they can really benefit from the advantages that we can with digital printing.

Sean McGowan

Analyst

And any updates that you can provide would be helpful on shoring up the balance sheet or any changes there, both during the quarter and anything subsequent to grade.

Geoffrey Gwin

Analyst

One of the big things that everybody is obviously aware of and concerned about is the NASDAQ listing issue. Last year, we went down the road and this has been something that I've been working on for 2 years now is to fix the balance sheet. Fixing the balance sheet has been a priority, and we've made big changes there. Last year, we reduced a large amount of debt converted to equity. That was a hard choice to make, but it was a choice, I think was absolutely necessary to put us in a position where we could invest in the business and move forward. And I think that's a focus in the first quarter here and into the second quarter. We're looking to build a credible plan that's not just wholly built on balance sheet adjustments, debt to equity, but on really the income statement now. What you're starting to see in the company is the income statement change, right? We're seeing Crafts revenue really grow through what it historically did because we've realigned the business. But on the Spirit side, we're at a point where you're starting to see that business really at breakeven. And we alluded to it in the comments, and I'll just reiterate now, we're in advanced discussions with the group and you should expect to hear something from us shortly that really pushes spirits into a new realm of profitability here in the back half of the year. So between the balance sheet, some possible changes that we're working on to get our in compliance with NASDAQ and finishing some of these priorities on the income statement, driving Craft to full capability out of its one facility, leveraging fixed expenses with multiple digital printers. And then on the Spirit side, finally getting to a point where we're generating positive cash and net income out of that business. Those 2 elements are going to be the best fixed for the balance sheet, I think.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions]. The next question is from Matt Campbell with Laridae Capital.

Matthew Campbell

Analyst

Jeff, I want to say it's been a long haul here. But it was pleasing to hear from Mr. Kilkenny about hiring a business development guy. Now it sounds like we're now hiring people to go out and get us business, which is phenomenal. Did I hear that correctly?

Geoffrey Gwin

Analyst

Sure. Conor, do you want to talk about your team and the investments you're making in Seattle?

Conor Kilkenny

Analyst

Yes. So our first goal was to hire a salesperson up in Seattle. But we laid out kind of a skill set of what we were looking for up there, mainly geared towards a business development manager to help with our sales team and what we went and had and found is a guy who has, like I said, he had 5 years' experience as the marketing and the sales director for one of the largest beverage companies in the Northwest. And he's very, very hungry, but he's also very skilled at finding how we are a value add for the customer. So we're not just offering a beautiful can to them, we can also help them with their forecasting also their business strategy as well as how to leverage that. In its first 3 weeks, he has already sold a tremendous number of cans.

Matthew Campbell

Analyst

So it sounds like you guys have gotten the kinks out of the printing side of the equation that you can drive the revenue, which is great to hear. Were there any other onetime items on the Craft side? Like where is mobile canning that side of the business? Is that now breakeven for us, so it's not going to bleed?

Conor Kilkenny

Analyst

Mobile was actually positive EBITDA in the first quarter. So yes, we've gotten the operation down to where the expenses align with what the sales are. And it's actually it's above breakeven.

Geoffrey Gwin

Analyst

So remember, just to remind people on the call, so the legacy business of Craft is mobile, which actually is a fascinating business. I mean, conceptually for the people that don't know it was, I think, actually originated by Craft and the people, the 4 rooms of Craft. I mean it was a business that was envisioned where they took a very small filling line, wild goose line and was able to architect it to fit it into a box truck and then they go to a local site that's like a small brewery and then they basically are successful in bringing the facility and the production capability to the local site. So that sounds complicated and it is, it was. And to scale that business, the company struggled with the return on investment because if you can think about it moving a tiny small factory footprint, and we had 13 of them at our peak and moving them to a customer, bringing them back, you bear a tremendous amount of risk and operational complexity. And then inevitably, when the customer gets large enough, they just moved off and built their own factory or bought their own equipment. Now we haven't fully exited mobile because the mobile customer base is extremely important to us. I mean it's part of our DNA, but just also informs the company on how we can better serve our customer. So while we have reduced our mobile activities, we've exited Denver, we've reduced our activities in Seattle to some degree and also Spokane. We're still very active in Portland, and we will continue to be very active in Portland. But as Conor said, we've got that to a point where we sized the opportunity. It's a great part of the package that we can cross…

Matthew Campbell

Analyst

How do you elaborate on Sean McGowan's question about the spirits business. You said you're in discussions to push spirits into profitability. Obviously, you commented on Agave prices now coming down, but we never know where Agave is going to go. So taking that out of the equation, is there a partnership that you envision here? How should we think about that where you do something that can really start to accelerate the opportunity that we have in these brands that haven't had any tender loving care for a while now.

Geoffrey Gwin

Analyst

I mean for everybody on the call, the company evaluated selling brands 2 years ago or basically not this past Christmas, but the holiday before that. We went to a full year of looking at the brands, talking to people that were potentially interested in them, and we've continued to do that. But one of the things that we've realized is there's a huge opportunity to maximize the value of the brand by continuing on this course to improve their performance, specifically their profitability performance. And one of the challenges that we've had and you have to go back in the company's history of a few years here, the company was built to produce product in larger scale and the vision then was to serve one of our brands that we're not involved in with anymore, and that's the Redneck Riviera brand. And we bring in blended whiskeys into Portland. We build product and then we ship it back East. Conceptually, it made no sense as far as trying to keep costs low and inevitably, proved to be a very bad business decision because at the end of the day, what we ended up having was a very expensive position on the shelf, and we weren't able to compete there. And so as the company downsized across the board in sales, its whole market operation east. And Harold Weber is probably on this call remembers this because he asked these questions, after call about why not be in New Jersey, why not be bringing products to -- that whole apparatus was extremely expensive and in the 3-tier distribution system, you have to be super focused on your investment and your go-to-market plan. So in this case, as that came back to reality and we were focusing on our key core…

Operator

Operator

This concludes our question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Geoffrey Gwin for any closing remarks.

Geoffrey Gwin

Analyst

Great. Thank you, Gary. And I'd like to thank all of you guys on the call for listening to our conference call, and we look forward to updating you on the second quarter. All right. Great. Have a good evening.

Operator

Operator

The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.