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Bridgeline Digital, Inc. (BLIN)

Q2 2018 Earnings Call· Tue, May 15, 2018

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Operator

Operator

Good day, ladies and gentlemen and thank you for your patience. You have joined Bridgeline Digital’s Second Quarter 2018 Earnings Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later, we will conduct a question-and-answer session and instructions will be given at that time. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference maybe recorded. I would now like to turn the call over to your host, Chief Financial Officer, Mr. Michael Prinn. Sir, you may begin.

Michael Prinn

Analyst

Thank you. Good afternoon, everyone. I am pleased to welcome you to our second quarter conference call. Before we begin, I would like to remind listeners that during this conference call, comments that we make regarding Bridgeline Digital that are not historical facts are forward-looking statements and are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause such statements to differ materially from actual future events or results. These statements are made pursuant to the Safe Harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. The internal projections and beliefs upon which we base our expectations today may change over time and we undertake no obligation to inform you if they do. Results that we report today should not be considered as an indication of future performance. Changes in economic, business, technological, regulatory and other factors could cause Bridgeline’s actual results to differ materially from those expressed or implied by the projections or forward-looking statements made today. For more detailed information about these factors and other risks that may impact our business, please review the reports and documents filed from time-to-time by Bridgeline Digital with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Also please note that on the call today, we will discuss some non-GAAP financial measures in talking about the company’s financial performance. We report our GAAP results as well as provide a reconciliation of these non-GAAP measures to GAAP financial measures in our earnings release. You can obtain a copy of our earnings release by visiting our website. I will now turn the call over to Ari.

Ari Kahn

Analyst

Thank you, Mike and good afternoon everyone. In the second quarter of fiscal 2018, we had revenue of $3.7 million, which is about $300,000 lower than our first quarter. The difference is primarily due to lower professional services with customers using more of the out-of-the-box features in our closed series and investments being made with key customer to enhance our product and create new sales opportunity. Recurring revenue was slightly lower compared to Q1, but was up year-to-date in the long-term nature of our staff contract gives us a strong recurring revenue stream that has our strongest gross margins. Hosting grew by 12% this quarter totaling nearly 20% year-to-date. We expect to add new hosting engagements due to increased requirements in security and regulatory needs such as the American Disabilities Act in general data protection regulation. Our SaaS customers can upgrade their subscription to various enhanced hosting actions and our perpetual license customers usually look to us for managed hosting with enhanced services to their subscription. SOC 2 certification has been helpful in winning B2B customers and demand for PCI hosting is found in both B2B and B2C engagements. We continue to see great interest in B2B sector, where we have strong competitive edge due to our out-of-the-box B2B feature set in our commerce product. In partnership with key B2B customers, Bridgeline is enhancing its products to provide even more competitive features. Some of the key differentiators that help Bridgeline compete so well in the B2B sector are out-of-the-box order attribution, inventory replenishment, customer price tiers, account roles, and large order support with freight shipping. In addition to commerce features, our highly customizable managed hosting options proved to be a decisive advantage when selling into B2B accounts. Traditional commerce B2B market is twice the size of the B2C market, but…

Michael Prinn

Analyst

Thanks, Ari. So let me go through the results of operations for the second quarter of fiscal 2018 ended March 31. Total revenue for the second quarter of fiscal 2018 was $3.7 million compared to $4.0 million in the second quarter of last year. Let me give some additional color around the different parts and pieces of revenue. So, our service revenue was $1.9 million in the second quarter of fiscal 2018 compared to $2.2 million in the second quarter of last year. The decrease in service revenue is primarily attributable to time that we strategically encourage provide capabilities to a key customer that creates future revenue opportunities for us as well as improvements to our software. We talked about this little in Q1 as well and I am pleased to report we successfully launched the customer website in March and the investments made by Bridgeline are now complete for this customer and opportunity. This made up most of the decrease in service revenue from Q2 of this year compared to Q2 of last year and most of the decrease in our overall revenue number. Subscription and perpetual license revenue for the second quarter of fiscal 2018 decreased to $1.5 million compared to $1.6 million in the second quarter of fiscal 2017. SaaS revenue decreased 6.3% to $1.3 million in the second quarter of fiscal 2018 compared to $1.4 million in second quarter of last year. Our hosting revenue increased 12.4% from $261,000 in the second quarter of last year to $293,000 in the second quarter of this year. As we saw, the perpetual license engagements that we closed in fiscal 2017 generate hosting revenue. All of our perpetual customers in recent years have also chosen Bridgeline to host their website. We are excited about the growth in this piece…

Operator

Operator

Thank you, sir. [Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Howard Halpern of Taglich Brothers. Your line is open.

Howard Halpern

Analyst

Good afternoon, guys.

Ari Kahn

Analyst

Hey, Howard.

Howard Halpern

Analyst

Hi, could you talk maybe a little bit about your active customer pipeline that your sales force is actually working on and how is it weighted more towards the B2B, B2C, could you talk about what’s in the pipeline basically?

Ari Kahn

Analyst

Yes, we are seeing more on the B2B side than on the B2C and we are also seeing larger deals nowadays. So most of the customers in our forward-looking pipeline I would say about 60% of them are B2B. And generally, we are seeing deals with an initial engagement in the $400,000 plus range and that’s a little bit different than last year, where we were looking at smaller engagements, I am not sure exactly why, but last year lot of our engagements were initial engagement in the 250K range. We are seeing a number of deals that are being brought to us from channel partners. So, we are making a focus on that. We don’t have a very large channel program right now, but we are expanding that, that we signed two channel partners just last quarter and that’s going to be part of the forward pipeline.

Howard Halpern

Analyst

Okay. And have you structured the sales force any differently or different type of salesperson to go after B2B rather than B2C?

Ari Kahn

Analyst

Well, it’s not so much a different type of salesperson, but the marketing venues are a little bit different. We are for instance – last week we are in Chicago at B2B online manufacturing expos. So, in terms of lead gen that’s a little bit of the different deal. Now, when you are in the B2B sales cycle that is more of an enterprise sales cycle and you need to have a seasoned rep that can have an executive conversation, but we already had a team that was built around that profile so that doesn’t require change from us.

Howard Halpern

Analyst

Okay. And now as a consequence of good consequence as of larger value deals, any kind of constraint on or how many deals you can start in the pipeline I guess based on what your workforce is at this point?

Ari Kahn

Analyst

Yes. Well, the B2B sales cycle is the longest sales cycle, it tends to be in more of the 6-month range and compared to 4 and they tend to be a little bit bigger. In terms of the overall quota per sales rep that’s not changing and B2B sales although they take a little bit longer they stall out a number of times in the middle of the sales cycle. So, the sales rep is able to manage more deals in this pipeline, because you have periods of inactivity.

Howard Halpern

Analyst

Okay. But also in terms of deployment do you have enough which will be a good thing if you had a bunch of deals hit almost at the same time or can you manage when the deals might have to start deployment do you have enough staffing consultants and such to get the deals going?

Ari Kahn

Analyst

Right. So what we have done is we don’t internally have enough to manage a bunch of B2B simultaneous deployments and what we did to that extent was created a systems integrator partner network that we used as bench. So, our internal people of the top level architect build its top dollar with an average bill rate of close to $200 an hour, which is an average for our team members. And then we are able to augment that staff and even markup significantly the partner network. And that model will continue. We will grow and expand our services team as demand grows, but we will also grow that network. Right now, we have got I think a little more than 20 services people in-house and in terms of outside network we are probably in the low-teens.

Howard Halpern

Analyst

Okay. Well, I look forward to seeing those deals come in. Keep up the good work.

Ari Kahn

Analyst

Great. Thanks.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Manoj Nadkarni of CIG. Your question please.

Ari Kahn

Analyst

Hi Manoj.

Manoj Nadkarni

Analyst

Yes, good afternoon and thanks for taking my call. So, in the investor conference in New York a couple of weeks ago you showed backlog of $18 million spread over 36 months, I assumed that was at the end of December 2017. May I ask you how has your backlogs changed as of the end of March quarter?

Michael Prinn

Analyst

Yes. Our backlog is slightly less than that, nothing material. So, I think those numbers are pretty consistent. It’s just a reminder that was sort of 36-month backlog. So there was a service piece that’s a little smaller than it was, but everything you saw for sort of license, hosting and maintenance, there has really been minimal change.

Ari Kahn

Analyst

Yes, that kind of slides up and down as we complete projects as things come out of the backlog and come back in.

Manoj Nadkarni

Analyst

Yes. And if I remember correctly, there were about $8 million or so in backlog that was 12-month duration, so that would be recognized sort of from the December that would be recognized during the current the calendar year, right?

Michael Prinn

Analyst

Correct.

Manoj Nadkarni

Analyst

Okay.

Michael Prinn

Analyst

I think I am saying – I am probably going to say the same thing a different way, if the number hasn’t changed that much from March 31, that number is going to be over the last two quarters of this fiscal year and in the first two quarters of our fiscal ‘19 I think we are saying the same thing in the next four quarters.

Manoj Nadkarni

Analyst

Okay. And Ari, you gave an example of developing smart oil cap for Perkins, one of your customers. To me, this seems like an IoT, or Internet of things type application. If this just for one customer or do you see more business along these lines from other customers in future?

Ari Kahn

Analyst

Yes. We do expect to see more business along these lines, especially in the B2B space and the manufacturing space, where individual devices are being shipped more and more frequently and everything from warehouses and logistics to the end-user products. We have got a couple of conversations that are going on right now with customers that are not doing exact same thing that Perkins did, but other similar things. That’s a trend that we expect to continue and some of the innovations that we made alongside of Perkins rolled into our products are going to enable us to win more of those opportunities.

Manoj Nadkarni

Analyst

Okay. So this is more so for winning new business or extra business from existing customers rather than adding revenues to your existing contract. Any color?

Ari Kahn

Analyst

It will do both. So, even within our existing contracts as customers are continually updating their implementations to be more and more competitive we have a team we call our customer success team, which is dedicated to helping our customers understand future opportunities for their site and engage them to do new things. So, we share with all of them examples like the Perkins one and hopefully that creates opportunities for them to expand their projects.

Manoj Nadkarni

Analyst

Very good. Also a question on your balance sheet, did you improve upon your balance sheet, especially in terms of debt. I don’t have the numbers from last year or how does it compare to last year?

Michael Prinn

Analyst

Compared to year end, the debt is pretty much the same. It’s $2.7 million compared to $2.5. There is two pieces. There is a $1 million term note that we have outstanding. We drew upon that in October, so that’s new and then the accounts receivable baseline of credit is a maximum of $2.5 million, but we only had about less than $2 million outstanding at year end, so just minor fluctuations.

Manoj Nadkarni

Analyst

Okay. And your ARR or the annual recurring revenues you are running around $7 million a year on that, should we expect it to and that’s roughly what about 40% or so or maybe more than 40% of your revenues, total revenues, should we expect it to stay around that level or do you see that building up. Any color?

Michael Prinn

Analyst

Yes, I think, so $6.9 million was the number that we gave in the call. And I think that’s just a good rate as of today and as we win deals and if we have any customer attrition, I think we will just continue to keep you posted on that basically every quarter.

Manoj Nadkarni

Analyst

Okay, very good. Thanks.

Ari Kahn

Analyst

Thanks, Manoj.

Operator

Operator

At this time, I would like to turn the call back over to Ari Khan for any closing remarks. Sir?

Ari Kahn

Analyst

Great, thank you. We appreciate the support and patience of our shareholders and it’s our goal to continue building a scalable business model, which in turn will build shareholder value. Thank you for joining us today. We look forward to speaking again in August 2 on our Q3 2018 conference call. Thanks.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today’s conference. Thank you for your participation and have a wonderful day.