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Q4 2009 Earnings Call· Thu, Aug 20, 2009

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Operator

Operator

Welcome to the Baldwin Technology Company Year-End Conference Call. (Operator Instructions). As a reminder, this conference is being recorded Thursday, August 20, 2009. I would now like to turn the conference over to Ms. Helen Oster, Corporate Secretary of Baldwin Technology. Please go ahead Ma'am.

Helen Oster

Management

I am Helen Oster Corporate Secretary and Director of Investor Relations for Baldwin Technology Company. With us on the call today are Karl Puehringer, President and Chief Executive Officer, and John Jordan, Vice President and Chief Financial Officer of the company. I would like to remind participants that this call is being recorded, and audio replay of the call will be available for one-week. The telephone numbers are provided in the earnings release. An archived webcast will also be available for 90 days through a link on our Investor Relations section of our website at www.baldwintech.com. Now before we begin, I will read our cautionary statement. During this presentation, representatives from the company may make statements or present information regarding expected future order and sales rates, operating margins and profitability or other items, which may constitute forward-looking information as that term is defined in the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995, or by the Securities and Exchange Commission in its rules, regulations and releases. Listeners are cautioned that any such forward-looking statements are not guarantees of future performance, and we urge you to read item 1A risk factors in the company's report on Form 10-K for the year ended June 30, 2008, the Form 10-Q for the quarter ended March 31, 2009 and the cautionary statement in the earnings release, for some of the factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from estimates contained in any of the company's forward-looking statements made during this presentation. We would also like to mention that while we report our financial results as required in accordance with GAAP, management will also discussion some of our results on an as adjusted or non-GAAP measure to enhance investors overall understanding of the company's financial performance. Let me now introduce our President and Chief Executive Officer, Karl Puehringer for comments regarding Baldwin's performance. Karl?

Karl Puehringer

Management

Good morning and welcome to our fourth quarter and yearend fiscal 2009 Earnings Call. I am pleased to report that we are successfully navigating our way through, what has certainly been one of the most challenging periods in our company’s long and distinguished history. Our company is financially healthy and cash flow positive. In the fourth quarter, which ended June 30th, we recorded net income of US $377,000, or $0.02 basic and diluted share, which clearly reflected the results of the aggressive measures we have taken to protect our financial well being. We reported during the fourth quarter net sales of $39.5 million, representing a solid 10% improvement in sequential revenue over the third quarter. For the full year, our adjusted non-GAAP net income per share was $0.07 and the reported loss of $0.74 per share including the one-time effect of restructuring, inventory reserve and goodwill write-offs. Our total cash flow from operations for the fiscal year 2009 was $2.6 million, reflecting our successful efforts to manage our working capital in proactive reaction to declining revenues during the past fiscal year. Our reported results would not have been possible without the aggressive actions we began taking early in this fiscal year, when it was clear that the global economy and more specifically the global printing industry was in what felt like a free fall. The leading OEM press manufacturer suffered significant declines in new orders, and printers and publishers sold their business fall off, as advertising contracted. This in turn adversely affected our own order book and global revenue. Our decisive actions in anticipation of the global recession resided in a reduction of our workforce by 18% and eliminated sufficient cost to position Baldwin to be profitability and cash flow positive during the economic contraction. Our restructuring and cost reductions…

John Jordan

Management

Thank you, Karl. Good morning, everyone. Thank you for participating in the Baldwin Technology fiscal year 2009 earnings release conference call. Sales in fourth quarter 2009 were $39.5 million compared to fourth quarter 2008 sales of $65.3 million, a decrease of $25.8 million or 39%, 5% or $3.2 million attributable to negative currency effects. However, the fourth quarter registered a sequential sales increase of 10% over the third quarter. This indicates that third quarter 2009 revenues, which included the negative effects from inventory reductions throughout the supply chain, may have established a potential bottom plateau to the downward sequential trend of the previous two quarters. Our expectation is that we will see continued favorable order and sales trend based on our initiatives with alliances, emerging markets, and continued business expansion with existing customers. Sales for the 2009 fiscal year were $177.8 million, a decrease of $58.5 million from fiscal year 2008 sales of $236.3 million. Currency effects accounted for $6.5 million of that decrease or three percentage points. In the 2008-2009 fiscal year the sales decrease of only 25% was partially due to our high proportion of recurring revenues, consumables parts, service, and the food blends operation. At close to 50% of total revenues, the uniformity of the recurring revenue stream helped soften the recession and capital equipment cycles negative effect on total revenues. Equipment revenues for the year were significantly best than 2008 in nominal terms, versus a much smaller percentage reduction for recurring revenue product lines. Our focus on building those recurring revenue sources to strengthen the uniformity of overall revenues is powered by the superior operating performance and environmental benefit from our patented PREPAC consumable product, and the trend of OEMs defining that product as standard on several lines and presses. In addition, the food blends operation…

Helen Oster

Management

This concludes the management’s presentation. We will now be pleased to take your questions. So, I will hand the call back to the operator to explain the Q&A process again. While we are waiting for the first question, Karl will make a few comments about Baldwin's participation in printing exhibition in Chicago next month.

Karl Puehringer

Management

I want to draw your attention to a very important trade show coming up in September here in the US. Print 09 will be held at McCormick Place in Chicago from September 11 through September 16. So, if you are interested in a comprehensive overview of players and dynamics in our industry, I really highly recommend to you to visit us at this show. North America is an important market for Baldwin, as printers are looking to reduce their costs and improve the quality associated with printing, and this is exactly what Baldwin systems are designed to achieve. At Print 09, Baldwin will introduce its new Protech PCS flexo plate cleaning system, a very interesting application of our offset cleaning know-how in the flexo printing segment. We will also introduce our new FusionFLEX blanket cleaning, and LithoSpray Cobra spray dampening system. In addition, with our alliance partners Betz and Tolerans, we will showcase the ColorPump for UV inks and the S60 Speedliner ribbon and cylinder stitchers. New performance-optimizing PREPAC blanket cleaning consumables and Oxy-Dry anti-offset powders will also be released for the first time at Print 09.

Helen Oster

Management

Susan, let's hear the first question. Question-and-Answer Session

Operator

Operator

(Operator Instructions). Our first question comes from the line of Juan Noble. Please proceed with your question.

Juan Noble

Analyst

Just a question, I am just keying in on the comment that you made about the possibility that your sales on the downside may have [slight] sold during the fourth quarter. I know you don't give out detailed or quantitative guidance. But could you just give us some sense of what you feel that the rate of recovery will be to let's say revenues that you generated in fiscal '08? What the velocity will be over what timeline it might unfold?

Karl Puehringer

Management

Let me give you some information as it relates to how brief you the future and the current situation of our market. Several data points, first of all, if you read the recent price releases from the OEM price manufacturers, they have started to report stabilization in new price activity, and even with first signs of a revival, especially in the sheetfed segment. When you look at our revenues and the exposure with OEM price manufacturers being the sales related with new price activities, I am looking back into '05 it was more than 50% then. In the meanwhile, in '09, it was closer to 40%. That is because of the strength of our recurring revenues and also our active sales on retrofits. We believe that as I mentioned, that we have seen a low point for our business related with new price activity in the third quarter of this past fiscal year, A, because of those recent releases from price manufacturer and B, in that third quarter, we have also faced the additional effect from reduction of inventory levels throughout the supply chain and that has impacted us, especially in the third quarter. Some encouraging signs that we're currently seeing I mean, we have started our '09 fiscal year with a backlog of $48 million, that backlog has then been reduced and has remained during the third and fourth quarter somewhere in the range between $37 million to $40 million. We have ended this fiscal year at $40 million and in the meanwhile, with the order activity in fiscal year '10, we have been able to increase that steadily to $44.6 million, as of last week. Second encouraging sign, when we are looking at our historically revenue distribution, approximately in Q1, we report 23% of our annual revenues, in…

Juan Noble

Analyst

Thank you, Karl. That's very clear and very helpful. Good luck to you.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Mark (inaudible). Please proceed with your questions.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Question on the backlog, your revenues sequentially were up 10% from the March quarter. But refresh my memory I think that from the time the quarter ended in March to the time of the conference call, the backlog actually deteriorated a little bit. Am I correct on that?

Karl Puehringer

Management

Yes. We ended the March quarter at around $40 million, and yes, I believe you are correct. We then went slightly below $40 million in the $37 million range, which then came up back to $40 at the end of June.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

So you are really seeing a nice improvement and I am assuming that the bulk of it must have come in June?

Karl Puehringer

Management

It was in June partially, but as I reported now, really that the growth in backlog happened in July and through mid of August. Now we went from $40 million to $44.8 I think it was $44.8 or $44.6 and that really now happened during the month of July and through mid of August.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

As the company regardless of the rate that the revenues improve, there is still another variable in your operating expenses, and that salesmen's commission and things like that, is that's where that's expensed, correct?

John Jordan

Management

Our sales costs don't have a very large variable component. Some of the sales people in the US have a variable component. But those in other countries are paid primarily salary and bonus. So the variable component is limited for sales.

Karl Puehringer

Management

Mark, more than 80% of our revenues are going through our own key account channels and are going through our own sales and service offices, less than 20% goes through dealers.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

So, then as revenues improve, and we'll just assume that the margins stay roughly where they are I think from what you said here and you are actually looking for a little improvement there. But just to be on the conservative side then the bulk of that gross margin should drops to the bottom line?

John Jordan

Management

Well, if you are talking about related to volume, the bulk of whatever margin we have would go to the bottom line, but we are talking about margin improvements just based on cost reductions.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

In the manufacturing process?

John Jordan

Management

That's right and those manufacturing and sourcing initiatives, and those would drop to the bottom line.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Can you give me some color on, are we looking for one point improvement or multiples of that.

Karl Puehringer

Management

Based on our plans, it’s unacceptable for us to be below 30%. We want to be north of 30% in fiscal year '10 and we are looking at the 32% target during this fiscal year '10, based on the initiatives that Dr. Steffen Weisser and his team are currently working on. It's really just to give you some information, its standardization of product lines, its pooling of volumes with certain suppliers, and on specific product lines, its also transferring of production from US and Europe into our operations in China and into our operations in India.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Got it, okay. So, then, so the company really doesn't have to get anywhere near its historic peak revenues of $240 million to be making the money that it was making, when it was at that level of revenues, I’m playing around here and I think about the mid-point between the 160 where you are now, and the 240 peak, and you would easily be back to your peak earnings?

Karl Puehringer

Management

That is correct, Mark.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Very good, and Karl, just because I got interrupted, earlier in your remarks, you made a comment about growth opportunities in the future that if you're successful could bring $100 million to $110 million in revenues, did you say 3 to 5 years? I just didn't get what you said?

Karl Puehringer

Management

Yes. We expect in three to five years that represents a total of $110 million annually, of that approximately 50% is growth in emerging countries and growth through our initiatives with our alliance partners, and the other 50% comes from our food blends operation expansion with OEM press manufacturers, applying our technology in new market segments such as flexography and digital printing as well as the organic growth opportunities of our consumables.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Great, okay and last question, I'll get off. The lawsuit that I know you were successful in a few months ago, when I realized there is more steps that you have to go through before you actually collect any money, but can you give us a little bit of an update on that?

Karl Puehringer

Management

Yes. We had a significant milestone in April 2009 that is when the Supreme Court, the German Supreme Court ruled on the invalidity action that was filed by our competitor and they ruled in our favor. So, they upheld our patent and that was really the key milestone in that process. You are right, there are two other cases in parallel ongoing. One is the patent infringement per case, where the Dusseldorf Higher Regional Court announced its judgment in our favor in the November 2002. That was appeal by our competitor. It is so called non-admittance action. We expect to receive a favorable ruling on that from the Supreme Court during calendar 2010, and then the proceedings go back to the damage claim and this is now the third component. Again, we have calculated the damages to be €32.7 million that’s almost US$50 million at current exchange rate and once we have the favorable ruling from the Supreme Court in Karlsruhe then it goes back to Dusseldorf Regional Court, as it relates to our claim of the damages.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of [Michael Coney]. Please proceed with your question.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Hi, I was also looking at the legal case, and that seems like a huge number, $50 million compared to your market capital share and most of what you just explained to the other guy, that covers what I was asking, but are your lawyers, are they working on a contingency basis or are you paying as you go and what exactly does that patent cover? I would assume there would also be an appeal and if so, what would that timeframe be?

Karl Puehringer

Management

Yes. Our lawyers are being paid as they go. The benefit is that we are talking German lawyers, and my estimate that the cost differential between German cases and US based cases is almost 1 to 10. So, in that regard it is not that a significant amount. The cost incurred related to that to-date. There is also, a difference in Germany versus the US, whenever there is a final decision then the loser pays the court fees as well as the attorney fees of both sides. So, whenever we have a final decision, and as I mentioned in one of those cases, we had a final decision. When there is a final decision, and let's say that was in the case of invalidity then the loser has to pay all fees. Sorry, there was some other component in your question. What was it, Michael?

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Then appeal, they would probably appeal I'm sure with that kind of number of dollars at stake, and that would add another year maybe to the…

Karl Puehringer

Management

Yeah, I think you are referring to the damages claim.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Right.

Karl Puehringer

Management

When the Regional Court of Dusseldorf decides on an amount in our favor, then yes, our competitor would have the possibility to appeal that. However, they would need to pay that amount against a bank security that we would need to issue. So, once there is a decision on damages from the regional court our competitor is obligated to pay the amount against a bank security that Baldwin would need to issue.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

What exactly does the patent cover or what's generally I should say does the patent cover?

Karl Puehringer

Management

The patent is related to our product, its called circulators and it refers to a cooling on the printing press, where basically the idea is to use only one heat exchanger circuit for cooling, both the fountain solution, as well as, cooling the ink roller temperature.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Are there other infringes on that patent?

Karl Puehringer

Management

That's actually an interesting question. We think actually there is another German supplier in Germany infringing on the same patent. But they have much smaller volumes. So we have at least we have not pursued. At the moment, we are focused on this one case against this one major competitor in Germany.

Operator

Operator

There is no more questions at this time. I will now turn the call back to you. Please continue with your presentation or closing remarks.

Helen Oster

Management

Thank you, Susan. Since there are no more questions, let me wrap up today's earnings conference call. We thank you all for your participation. We appreciate your taking the time to hear about Baldwin's latest news and developments. We look forward to having you on our next call in November. Good bye.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, that does conclude the conference call for today. We thank you for your participation and ask that you please disconnect your lines.