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Q3 2016 Earnings Call· Wed, Nov 30, 2016

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Operator

Operator

Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the BlackLine Third Quarter 2016 Earnings Call. [Operator Instructions] And as a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I would now like to introduce Christine Greany of The Blueshirt Group.

Christine Greany

Analyst

Good afternoon, and thank you for your participation today, everyone. With me on the call is Therese Tucker, Founder and Chief Executive Officer of BlackLine; and Mark Partin, Chief Financial Officer. Before we get started, I would like to note that certain statements made during this conference call that are not historical facts, including those regarding our future plans, objectives and expected performance are forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These forward-looking statements represent our outlook only as of the date of this conference call. While we believe any forward-looking statements we have made are reasonable, actual results could differ materially, because the statements are based on our current expectations and are subject to risks and uncertainties. We do not undertake and expressly disclaim any obligation to update or alter our forward-looking statements whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise, except as required by applicable law. Also, during the course of today's call, we will refer to certain non-GAAP financial measures. A discussion of why we use non-GAAP financial measures and a reconciliation schedule showing GAAP versus non-GAAP results is currently available in our press release, which may be found on our Investor Relations website at investors.blackline.com or on our Form 8-K filed with the SEC today. Now I'd like to turn the call over to Therese to begin.

Therese Tucker

Analyst

Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you so much for joining us today. Mark and I enjoyed meeting many of you during our IPO roadshow last month, and we greatly appreciate all of the interest we received from investors. Now for those of you that we met with, I'd like to remind you that you should be asking your portfolio companies if they closed their books with BlackLine. Accurate financial reporting doesn't just happen magically. We're very pleased to be reporting our first quarter as a public company, which was marked by record revenue and a number of additional financial and operating achievements. There are several highlights I'd like to share from the quarter, but first since many of you are just getting to know BlackLine, we thought it would be helpful to provide you with some perspective on the factors behind our strong track record of growth, the substantial market opportunity in front of us and our strategies to continue driving the business forward. BlackLine is still in the early innings of developing what we believe is a very large greenfield market opportunity. We continue to see success, because the financial accounting processes for both public and private companies are still batch oriented, manually intensive and they need to be radically improved. Our cloud-based platform addresses the 3 major issues surrounding these processes: inefficiency, cost and risk. Macro tailwinds like regulatory scrutiny, rising business complexity and the need for accurate real-time data are driving adoption. 2 weeks ago, we had our annual user conference and the theme of that conference was Blueprint for Continuous Accounting. As a concept, continuous accounting embeds typical month-end tasks into daily workflow, automating wherever possible and effectively eliminating the big bubble of work that occurs in the month-, quarter- and year-end closes. This approach minimizes…

Mark Partin

Analyst

Thank you, Therese, and good afternoon, everyone. I'd like to echo Therese's sentiment about how pleased we are with the level of interest we received from our analysts and investors. We're looking forward to getting to know you in the quarters ahead and keeping you updated on our performance. Before I get into the results, please note that during my remarks, unless I specify otherwise, all numbers are non-GAAP. I'm pleased to report that in Q3, we continued to see record revenue growth, solid gross margins and improving cash flow. As Therese mentioned, Q3 2016 was a strong top line quarter for us. Total revenue in the third quarter increased 49% to $32 million, as we executed on our plan to acquire new customers and retain and expand the existing customers. Our 122 new logos added in the quarter were a good balance of both enterprise and mid-market customers. Expansions within our existing accounts, including more users, more products, and price uplift drove our net revenue retention rate to another strong quarter of 118%. Global demand for BlackLine's platform remained strong with more than 16% of our revenue coming from international markets this quarter. Finally, our revenue mix remained relatively constant at 96% subscription revenue and 4% professional services. Third quarter gross margin improved to 82% from 80% a year ago. The improvement is primarily attributable to efficiencies around hosting and data center costs as we gain leverage from a larger customer base and higher utilization of our existing hosting infrastructure. Going forward, we expect gross margins to trend closer to our long-term target model of 80% as our revenue mix changes slightly to include more services. Turning now to operating expenses. Total OpEx in the third quarter of 2016 was $27.6 million or 85% of revenue versus $22.6 million…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question for today comes from the line of Mark Murphy of JPMorgan.

Mark Murphy

Analyst

So I wanted to ask you, just given the extreme FX volatility that we've seen this year post Brexit and now with the global trade agreements, some of which are being called into question after the U.S. election cycle, could you possibly update us on the traction of your Intercompany Hub product and just how that's coming together in terms of customer demands?

Therese Tucker

Analyst

This is Therese. We just had our user conference 2 weeks ago here in Los Angeles. And with the BEPS initiative that's happening with -- as you said, the volatility in the FX and with some of the IRS code changes around intercompany loan accounting and that becoming more stringent, we saw terrific interest in the Intercompany Hub at our user conference. Further, we saw a number of companies that mentioned that they actually have fines that they pay every year in substantial numbers, because they don't do intercompany properly. So just came off of that user conference, so I feel I'm pretty good about that. And of course, the sales cycle is always a little longer for larger projects, but I'm pretty optimistic about where we're going with the Intercompany Hub.

Mark Murphy

Analyst

Great. And as a follow-up, you had mentioned the rapid expansion of your mid-market sales teams. And I heard the comment about good balance in terms of the new bookings. But I am just wondering if you compare it year-to-year or maybe to where you were 6 months ago, has that expansion of the sales team resulted in any kind of higher mix for mid-market organizations within your list of new logos for Q3?

Therese Tucker

Analyst

No, not really, because they're both still growing, right? They're both still growing very nicely. And so there's really -- it's very much the same mix.

Mark Murphy

Analyst

Do you anticipate that mix shifting at all over time going forward?

Mark Partin

Analyst

Mark, look, we are investing in all aspects of that. So the velocity in our mid-market that we've seen over the last number of quarters is really encouraging. So our goal is to have a diversified growth strategy, both domestically and international and mid to enterprise. And as long as we see the strong returns we get, we plan to keep putting our foot on those pedals -- both pedals.

Therese Tucker

Analyst

Both pedals.

Mark Murphy

Analyst

Okay, good. That's great. I had one last question, if I may. You did announce pretty significant enhancements to your platform earlier this month at the user conference. And I guess, I'm curious, it seemed to be in the areas of reporting, navigation, SAP connectors and maybe a few other areas. Could you help us understand, which of those -- how the best customer reception might have the most kind of mainstream appeal or maybe the most impact for your financial results going forward?

Therese Tucker

Analyst

I'm thinking about that. That's a good question, Mark. I would say that probably the sort of interesting approach that we took to embedding the reporting in every grid was incredibly well received. But that's only because that's something that every single customer uses. Certainly, our SAP customers were delighted with some of the changes to the SAP connector and the availability of the Smart Close product, right? So I would only rank that one a little lower, simply because it only appeals to about 1/3 of our customer base. But most of our enhancements that we released at the user conference were things that have been in process for a while, based on customer suggestions. So kind of hard to really call one out more than the others.

Operator

Operator

And our next question comes from the line of Steve Ashley from Robert W. Baird.

Steven Ashley

Analyst

Can I -- I'd like to maybe ask about the international opportunity. You just opened in Frankfurt. Can you remind us what major markets do you have a physical presence in today with offices? And what are some of the near-term opportunities you might see internationally?

Therese Tucker

Analyst

It's Therese. Let's see, we currently have our European headquarters in London. We also have offices in France, obviously Frankfurt. With the acquisition of Runbook, we now have offices in Ada, which is outside of Amsterdam. Okay? We also have offices in Australia that are in Melbourne and Sydney. We also have an office in Malaysia and one in Singapore, so that's -- and Vancouver, sorry. There's so many now that I forget them sometimes. But in terms of additional sort of areas, we see further expansion into the dock region, right, into the Nordics. We see that certainly there's been some demand -- quite a bit of demand from moving either even farther east, if I could speak, it would help. All right, and we've also been looking at some partnerships down in South America. In all of these places, Steve, we've already got users. We've already got people logging into the application, typically a lot of the times using it in languages other than English. And so where we look -- when we decide to move into a new region, we look at where we've already got a good customer base.

Steven Ashley

Analyst

Perfect. Then I'd just like to ask about this largest initial deal you win and if you could give us a little color. I don't know if you want to disclose the size, but in terms of number of SKUs or maybe how long that contract might have been, some color on that would be great.

Therese Tucker

Analyst

Mark and I were conferring here. That was a deal that was over $500k, and it did include the Intercompany Hub as well as some of the components of the Financial Close Suite. Now just to be clear, that was really an initial deal size that was not -- some of our longer-term customers pay us more than twice that. But it's good that we're getting the momentum and the reputation in the marketplace that allows us to do those sizes of deals.

Operator

Operator

And our next question comes from the line of Bhavan Suri from William Blair.

Bhavan Suri

Analyst

I just want to touch on a couple of quick things. But first, you sort of talked about the net expansion rate and then sort of the growth. Could you just maybe give a little more color, Therese and Mark, just on the split between whether it was sort of ARPU-driven more or if it was sort of seat expansion for the core offering? How should we think about that split and the expansion rates?

Mark Partin

Analyst

Bhavan, thanks. Think about our net dollar revenue retention rate with 3 drivers. The first and the biggest has historically been user expansion through globalization and use case growth within the accounts. Second is product. And then third is price uplift. And the price uplift we get on an annual basis is in the 3% to 5%. Now, I'll add that we are very optimistic about the level of product that we have today to be able to sell into accounts. And so over the long term, we think that, that could become a bigger part of the retention rate.

Bhavan Suri

Analyst

Got it, got it. And then obviously the Intercompany Hub -- and I know we -- the three of us have certainly discussed this ad nauseaum, to me seems very compelling. When you are in the early sales cycles for this, and obviously, a large deal speaks to it. But how receptive are customers to the new offering? Do they get it, or there's still a little bit of an evangelical sale with Intercompany Hub? And so is that sort of taking a little longer. How should we think about that vis-à-vis expectations, and also the sales cycle for that particular offering?

Therese Tucker

Analyst

Bhavan, it's Therese. Nice to hear from you. Intercompany is a slightly longer sales cycle. And here is why. Because rather than sort of replacing Excel worksheet, it's more of a transformational project. Companies have to change how they're doing their business. They also have to get a number of different departments coordinated. Okay? So the tax, the legal, the treasury, everybody ends up getting involved. And by that very definition, that's going to draw out the sales cycle. Now however, what's interesting about this, very unlike when we came to market with an account reconciliation product, this is -- people get the need right off the bat. Nobody says, we are awesome at intercompany. They say, "Oh my God, this area is such a mess." And the thing that's drawing it out is the size of the mess, not that they don't get the need. So I have found that to be very encouraging. The receptivity to a solution like BlackLine's Intercompany Hub has been extraordinarily high. But again, the complexity is going to draw out the sales cycle.

Bhavan Suri

Analyst

Got it, got it. One last one if I could squeeze in. With Runbook, you've got sort of this agent-based approach to capturing data in almost real-time from SAP systems. But given these companies have sort of a variety of mishmash of general ledgers and systems, whether it's Oracle or otherwise, is there a thought process of getting an agent into the Oracle world to capture that data at real-time? Or is that a capability that you guys are thinking of building, buying? How should we think about that?

Therese Tucker

Analyst

Yes -- No, thanks, Bhavan. First off, with the connectors and a lot of the work that we're already doing, we are getting real-time data from a number of different ERPs. Okay? So I just want to draw that distinction there. With the Smart agent -- Smart Close agent for SAP, sort of the thought on that is that it actually can control what's happening inside of the ERP in terms of various jobs being scheduled and the results causing certain dependencies and other things to happen in feeding those results into other places. And by its nature, that piece is embedded inside the ERP. Now you ask if we had plans to extend that to other ERPs, and the answer is absolutely yes. It's a concept that we've talked to a number of our customers about who are non-SAP, ERP-based, and that has gotten a very favorable reaction from them. So now that is not a short-term product enhancement. Okay? So that's -- I'm not making a product announcement here, just saying.

Operator

Operator

And our next question comes from the line of Jesse Hulsing from Goldman Sachs.

Jesse Hulsing

Analyst

The first question is for Mark. The leverage on the sales and marketing line quarter-over-quarter is pretty impressive. You mentioned sales productivity being a big driver of that. I'm wondering where you're seeing the most productivity out of your sales force? Is in the mid-market? Is it the enterprise? Is it the account teams? Or is it broad-based?

Mark Partin

Analyst

Jesse, thanks for the question. It's broad-based. The acceleration in sales and marketing in 2015 that gave us the broad sort of diversified go-to-markets and multiple engines really started to pay dividends that we saw in Q3. So it's broad-based.

Jesse Hulsing

Analyst

Got you. And your guidance implies on the bottom line reinvestment. Is the bulk of the reinvestment going to be in sales and marketing headcounts? Or do you have product investments that you're also planning to make?

Mark Partin

Analyst

Yes, a good question. I think it's a couple of things that I can clarify. First is Q4, Therese mentioned the user conference that we do. That's an investment for us in our customers and in sales and marketing, and it's a big one. And second is the acquisition of Runbook occurred in the last month of the quarter in Q3. And in Q4, we have the full 3 months of the company. So in some regards, it's related to those 2 things.

Jesse Hulsing

Analyst

Got you. And a question for Therese. Therese, the Runbook acquisition was a big one for you relative to your size. Can you walk us through, I guess, the strategic and technology rationale behind the Runbook acquisition?

Therese Tucker

Analyst

Absolutely. One of the things that we found back to, I guess, it was Steve's question, or maybe Bhavan on the Intercompany Hub. We found that the actual implementation projects for the Intercompany Hub were not going quite as quickly as I would've liked this last year. Now what that was caused by is we found that we really needed a deeper level of SAP expertise. Okay? And it's a surprisingly difficult skill set. Everybody claims it, very few people seem to have it. Okay? And what we found inside the Runbook team is a fairly large group of people with decades of experience interfacing with -- integrating with optimizing SAP interactions. And I found that particular sort of talent pool very, very appealing. Next, when we look at their products, we thought there were some things that they did really, really well. In fact, when we looked at the Smart Close product, which is not something that there is absolutely 0 overlap with BlackLine, we found that nobody else in their market did it nearly as well. And when you think about BlackLine being a financial automation and control set of products, right, being able to actually control the jobs that are happening inside of an ERP is kind of a fundamental piece to automating the close. So I thought that they had skills that we didn't. I saw that they had products that we didn't. Okay? I saw that they had many customers that we didn't have that were quite big names. I saw that they were based in an area of the world where we did not have a huge presence. And I also saw that -- well, we learned that they were actually in a process. And so we met with the founders of Runbook, and we found that even with -- even if all of those things had been true and we didn't think that we could work with the founders, I don't think we would have done it. But the founders were exceptionally passionate about 2 things. They take care of their customers like nobody else. Okay? And one of the things to note, in our particular market, we have replaced systems against every competitor in that market with the exception of Runbook. Okay? They are the only ones that we've never been able to displace. So that told me right there that they have a commitment to customers and that they have really great products. Okay, so that was one. And then the other thing that the founders are passionate about was the opportunity that lies ahead in this market. They were just like they've really wanted to stick around and see sort of our destinies be filled, and they wanted to do that with us. And so it was really that it was -- I guess, it was an emotional decision at the end of the day, because they were passionate about the same things we are.

Operator

Operator

And our next question comes from the line of Terry Tillman from Raymond James.

Terrell Tillman

Analyst

I've got 7 questions. No, I'm kidding. I just have a few questions. The first question relates to SAP. I mean, that's been a really fruitful relationship for you guys. But I'm curious like as the years progress, first quarter, second quarter and third quarter, how has that business been trending? And is there's still a lot of low-hanging fruit in productivity gains to be had out of that relationship? Are you kind of now on the kind of the right run rate going forward in that business?

Therese Tucker

Analyst

Terry, we -- it's a commercial arrangement with SAP, and we have really appreciated and enjoyed our partnership with them. We do find that even though our share of business in terms of SAP versus other ERPs sort of mirrors the overall market very closely, we have seen our SAP sort of share of business start to grow. So that being said, we hope that we're partners in one form or other with SAP for a long time.

Terrell Tillman

Analyst

Okay. And it was nice to hear about the largest initial transaction in your history. But what I'm curious about, and I know you probably don't want to get into too many details, but if we think about just kind of the color around your late-stage pipeline activity now versus maybe 6 months ago, do you -- does that seem like an anomaly? Or are you actually seeing your pipeline populated with more initial deal sizes that are of that size or larger?

Therese Tucker

Analyst

Well, Terry, as we start seeing more intercompany projects come into the pipeline, we are seeing that those in particular are quite a bit bigger. Now, I do want to say this, though, right, one of the beautiful things about SaaS software is that you can sort of grow as you go, prove it out, add additional users, add additional products. We like that model, because we know that our customers are going to find that our software works. And so if somebody starts small, it just wants to grow over time, that's frankly to me just as appealing as somebody who starts big.

Terrell Tillman

Analyst

Yes, yes. And Mark, I don't want you to be lonely here I want to give you a question if possible, and then I'll end it here versus the 7 that I initially -- or 6 or 7 I initially mentioned. But if we think about billings in the fourth quarter, is there anything to appreciate in terms of tougher comparability year-over-year? Or is there anything seasonal-wise we should think about as what's making our assumptions for billing?

Mark Partin

Analyst

Thanks, Terry. So I'm happy to answer all 7 questions if you want. But on this one, look, it's one of the reasons we don't report on it to this group. Billings can be seasonal on a quarterly basis, and that's the same for us. So the metrics that we are really focused are dollar retention rates, customers and users on a quarterly basis. And as you think about Q3 and Q4, I think it's absolutely right to say that we have fluctuation from quarter-to-quarter. So we need to be careful about that metric.

Therese Tucker

Analyst

And Terry, I'm actually disappointed that you don't 4 more questions. I'm surprised in you.

Terrell Tillman

Analyst

Well, okay. I've got one more question, and it's going to irritate everybody else on this call, and I apologize in advance. Therese, congrats on the new executive hire. On the customer success side -- and I will stop after that, I promise. But on the customer success side, what can she do that could either drive revenue retention higher? Or how do we think about potential metrics or objectives that she could accomplish and how we could see it as financial analysts?

Therese Tucker

Analyst

Well, one of the things that I love about Karen is that she is very metrics-driven. And in the old days when we were really small, we had this philosophy of do anything to keep the customer happy. And sometimes, you'd have everybody in the company running to one side of the boat, right? What Karen is doing is really organizing that and making sure that we don't have to run from one side of the boat to the other, right? She's organizing it based on types of customers, strategic products, how does the customer success team improve the adoption of what people buy, right, which will certainly drive up retention over time; how does she bring down the length of time that an implementation takes; how do we just make a lot of things more efficient, but also get a much better customer experience. And she's got a whole series of metrics that she's tracking right now. And I have to say, I am absolutely delighted in her. Was that enough detail, Terry? I could go on for a while. Maybe we shouldn't.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from the line of Brent Bracelin from Pacific Crest.

Trevor Upton

Analyst

This is Trevor Upton for Brent. I was wondering if you could give more color on the international expansion and if any countries stood out this quarter?

Mark Partin

Analyst

Thanks for joining the call. Our international expansion was very consistent from previous quarters. 15% -- a little over 15% -- it's in the 16% actually from outside the U.S. And the demand we see and demand that we have in our experience really is in all the markets that Therese mentioned. That's where we are putting physical presence and partners and people to go after that demand.

Trevor Upton

Analyst

That's helpful. And curious what the response from SAP has been regarding your Runbook acquisition that's actually a big SAP shop?

Therese Tucker

Analyst

Well, I think it's very positive. They view it as our commitment to making our SAP customers successful.

Trevor Upton

Analyst

Okay. And then was there any change in the competitive environment in the quarter you'd want to highlight?

Mark Partin

Analyst

No. I think that's a great question. And no, we -- our competitive landscape in Q3 was very consistent. The win/loss rate is very consistent. So no change.

Operator

Operator

And that concludes our question-and-answer session for today. I would like to turn the conference back over to BlackLine management for any closing comments.

Therese Tucker

Analyst

Well, thank you for all of your sweet congratulations and your questions today. We so appreciate your interest. We look forward to speaking with you next quarter. Thanks so much.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for your participation in today's conference. This does conclude the program, and you may now disconnect. Everyone, have a great day.