Ladies and gentlemen thank you for standing by and welcome to the BankUnited Third Quarter Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. [Operator Instructions] I would now like to hand the conference to your speaker today, Susan Greenfield, Corporate Secretary of BankUnited. Please go ahead.

Thank you, Lis. Good morning, and thank you for joining us today on our third quarter results conference call. On the call this morning are, Raj Singh, our Chairman, President and CEO; Leslie Lunak, our Chief Financial Officer; and Tom Cornish, our Chief Operating Officer. Before we start, I'd like to remind everyone that this call may contain forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 that reflect the company's current views with respect to, among other things, future events and financial performance. Any forward-looking statements made during this call are based on the historical performance of the company and its subsidiaries or on the company's current plans, estimates and expectations. The inclusion of this forward-looking information should not be regarded as a representation by the company that the future plans, estimates or expectations contemplated by the company will be achieved. Such forward-looking statements are subject to various risks and uncertainties and assumptions, including, without limitation, those relating to the company's operations, financial results, financial condition, business prospects, growth strategy and liquidity, including as impacted by the COVID-19 pandemic. The company does not undertake any obligation to publicly update or review any forward-looking statements whether as a result of new information, future developments or otherwise. A number of important factors could cause actual results to differ materially from those indicated by the forward-looking statements. Information on these factors can be found in the company's annual report on Form 10-K for the year ended December 31, 2020, and any subsequent quarterly report on Form 10-Q or current report on Form 8-K, which are available at the SEC's website, www.sec.gov. With that, I'd like to turn the call over to Raj.

Thank you, Susan. Welcome, everyone. Thank you for joining us for our earnings call. Let me make quick few remarks about what we are seeing in our markets before we get into our results. Three months ago, when we met you on this call Delta was beginning to surge, Florida seemed to be caught up in it more than probably any other state. And there was a lot of concern as to whether that will the effect the economy and to what extent. I am happy to report three months into it, now, Delta seems fairly in the rearview mirror. I checked the numbers just a few minutes before this call, I think, they have come down to even lower than they were three months back. So, we're happy about that. What we are most happy about is also that it did not actually have the same kind of impact that previous surges have had on the economy. I think the economy is learning to live with these surges as and when they happen. Hopefully there won't be anymore, but at least over the last three months, we did not see a significant impact to the local economy here or in other parts of the country where we do business. But it's good to see Delta behind us obviously with a fair amount of pain that everyone took on the healthcare side. The Delta surge did put our plans about return to office on hold a little bit. We have started bringing people back in at the summer. We have to take a pause. Later today I will be making a call internally and we will be talking about how we're going to restart that process. Our expectation is that by January, first week of January, we will be in…

Greg Raj. Thank you. So, I wanted to spend a little time first on deposits, give you a little bit more detail and perspective on some of the things that we're working on and what we achieved in the quarter. So, as Raj said, average non-interest bearing deposits grew by $749 million for the quarter and $2.7 billion compared to the third quarter of 2020. Period end non-interest bearing DDA grew by $324 million while total deposits shrank by $493 million. So, let break down a little bit the $324 million at NIDDA growth for the quarter it was again, broad spread across all geographies, across all business units and very heavily focused on new client acquisition. I’d also spend a little bit of time working on the deposit portfolio, the work that Raj is talking has been a daily level of kind of bruising work that's not that glamorous, but we're working very hard on new account operating relationships, cross selling within the book, ensuring that ECR rates are set at appropriate levels, really working hard on kind of the building blocks of this. And I think the two places that you see it, number one are the continued NIDDA growth obviously in the $324 million, but also secondarily, if you look at service charges, deposit fees, on accounts was up 33% for this quarter compared to the same period last year. So, we're really starting to see excellent kind of cadence and rhythm, in both continued NIDDA growth continued opening of new operating account business, which is really our central focus as a strategy and continuing for surging in the level of service charge revenue that we have from these accounts. So, all of that is, is a big part of what Raj talks about when we're talking…

That Tom you are done?

Yes. No, I was just…

I am sorry. I am sorry. Go ahead, Tom.

I was going to give the PPP update.

Cut Tom off.

As for PPP, $159 million of the first draw PPP loans were forgiven in Q3. As of September 30th, there was a total of $49 million in PPP loans outstanding under the first draw program, and $283 million of outstanding under the second draw program. We expect to open the forgiveness portal for the second draw program next month. But obviously this is kind of winding down at this point. Quick update on deferrals and CARES Act modifications Slide 16 in the supplemental deck also provides more detail on this. For commercial, no commercial loans were on short-term deferral. As of September 30th, $244 million of commercial loans remained on modified terms under the CARES Act compared to $436 million at June 30th. The largest decline in loans modified under the CARES Act was $144 million decline in Hotel portfolio. The Hotel portfolio particularly in Florida continues to rebound and if you try to get a hotel in certain areas of Florida, lately good luck, particularly in the keys and other coastal properties, just the occupancy is really returned strongly there. So, we're feeling good to see that change come about. To date $414 million in commercial loans have rolled off modification. 100% of these loans have either paid off or resumed regular payments. From residential perspective, excluding the Ginnie Mae early buyout portfolio, $40 million of loans remained on short-term deferral or have been fight under the longer-term CARES Act, prepayment plan in September 30th. Of the $533 million in residential loans that were granted an initial payment deferral, $493 million or 92% have rolled off. Of those that have rolled off 95% have been paid or are making regular payments. I think the last thing I'd say on the loan portfolio is also when we look at the $74 million in growth. I keep in mind that we had $175 million of payoffs in criticizing classified loans. So, while it certainly impacted the loan growth number, it contributes to the overall improvement in the credit quality and we're happy to see that. So, with that, I'll turn it over to Leslie.

Great, thanks, Tom. Give a little bit more detail on the numbers for the quarter, starting with the NIM. The NIM did decline this quarter to 2.33% from 2.37%. The PPP fee recognition had a bigger impact on the NIM last quarter and this quarter if we factor out the impact of PPP fees and the impact of increasing prepayment speeds on some of our securities, the NIM actually would've been flat quarter-over-quarter. Loan growth was ready this quarter, not commercial had we seen more commercial growth as opposed to residential growth, we likely would've seen some uptick in that NIM. The yield on loans decreased to 3.45% from 3.59% last quarter. Recognition of PPP fees, the differential in net quarter-over-quarter it hadn't been for that, the yield on loans would've declined by only 6 basis points for the quarter. And most of that 6 basis points really was attributable to the shift from residential to – or from commercial to residential, sorry. Eventually, obviously we believe that pendulum will swing back the other way. I know you're going to ask me, so I'll answer you now, there's still $8.1 million worth of deferred fees on PPP loans remaining to be recognized almost all of that $8 million relates to the second draw program. So, I don't really think we'll see much of that in the fourth quarter. Yield on securities declined from 1.56% to 1.49% and accelerated prepayments, which we think someday has to come to an end, but keeps not coming to an end. It just keeps getting faster on mortgage back securities accounted for almost all of that quarterly decline in yield. Total cost of deposits declined by 5 basis points quarter-over-quarter. The cost of interest-bearing deposits down 6 basis points. And our best expectation right now is that NIM would remain relatively stable over the fourth quarter. But obviously there are things that contribute to that that are a little bit difficult for us to predict, but that's our best expectation as of now.

And we can comfortably say the cost deposits will continue to drive for at least two more quarters.

Yes. With respect to the allowance and the provision overall, the provision for credit losses for the quarter was a recovery of $11.8 million, Slides 9 through 11 of our deck provide further details on the ACL. The ACL declined from 77 basis points to 70 basis points over the course of the quarter. Most significant drivers of that change a $2.3 million decrease related to the economic forecast, this is becoming less impactful than it has been in prior quarters, which is not surprising as things start to stabilize. A $4.5 million decrease due to charge-offs. Another $3.7 million due to a variety of changes in the portfolio, including the mix of new production and exits the further shift to loan segments with lower expected loss rates, primarily residential impact on PDs of an improving borrower, financial performance, risk rating changes, et cetera. And a $5.9 million decrease in the amount of qualitative overlays and this is mainly just shift things that are now being captured by the models this last quarter we didn't think the models were adequately capturing. The largest component of the reduction in the reserve was the CRE portfolio. The CRE model is particularly sensitive to unemployment, which improved this quarter. And the commercial property forecast also improved particularly for retail and multifamily, where we saw improving forecasted vacancy rates. There was also a reduction in criticized classified pre-loans, which impacts the reserve. We also saw the resi reserve come down, this was caused by residential loans, continuing to come-off deferral and resuming payments and changes in the economic forecast related to unemployment and long-term interest rates also had an impact. I'll remind you that almost 25% of the resi book is government insured and actually carries no reserve. C&I reserves actually picked up a…

No. I'll turn it over for Q&A. Let's jump into it.

Okay.

[Operator Instructions] And our first question coming from the line of Ben Gerlinger with Hovde Group. Your line is open.

Hey, good morning, everyone.

Good morning, Ben.

Good morning.

I was wondering if we could start on loan growth in general. It was great color and commentary from opening remarks. I was curious if you guys could take a minute to kind of just walk through the competitive aspects of the markets that you're working in. It seems like some competitors are doing a little bit stronger loan growth, but kind of just backing to the map they're probably doing at a lower rate. So, with the payoffs you are seeing in the line utilization, somewhat plateauing recently, are there areas of kind of low-hanging fruit that we should do expect to see in terms of growth and kind of the dynamics you're working through? And then any update on the potential lift outs and more granularity would be helpful?

Sure. In terms of production as Tom said, if you just look at growth production levels, we were pretty happy with where the quarter came out. The only place where we're not active and very deliberately pulled back are areas that are still impacted by the pandemic. So, we're still not, for example, leaning into hospitality or areas such as even office on the CRE front. But everything else, small business, corporate, commercial business, and other aspects of CRE warehouse, industrial, multi-family, we are seeing pretty decent production. But we're seeing an enormous amount of payoffs. It just doesn't end. So, I think, all of that adds up to the numbers that you see. Where we're seeing inordinate competition from a rate and structure, I would say it’s LIFOs that are doing very long-dated IOs, going out 10 and 15 years that we refuse to compete in that space. It’s always been out there, but I think, it's gotten very pronounced in the last few months. Very long dated 10- 15-year paper interest only and I just don't think that fits our risk appetite.

Yes, I would probably add when we use the word payoff, I would spend a little bit of time talking about what payoffs mean. And largely payoffs for us are not clients that are leaving to go to a different bank, they are clients that are selling their companies, particularly within the C&I book. I mean, the level of M&A activity right now is just incredibly strong and it's not only deep in larger businesses, typically a couple of years ago, you would not see significant M&A activity in kind of your commercial lending businesses. . : I mean, these are deals for different kinds of companies that have different cost of funding and stability streams of funding to be able to support that. In the markets that we're in I wouldn't say there's any low-hanging fruit we're in competitive places, and it's sort of a daily fight to do well. There are certain aspects that we're trying to focus on a little bit more going forward, certain spaces that we see, we have added a fair number of producers in the last quarter, we have several offers out this quarter. And so, reinforcing our teams, both in the markets that're in, and in the expansion markets that we're thinking about is a big part of the strategy.

Got it. Okay, that's helpful color. I appreciate that. And then Raj just thinking kind of the bigger picture now I would consider, you'd be kind of a top tier steward of capital, you have a great leadership thinking for the longer term. So, kind of everything you said of the strong production payoffs are going to come and go, but they are really a little bit out of the control of the bank, seems to have a pretty good handle on credit and your margin is that a sensitivity should be a little bit helpful as rates do increase. So, given where the stock is today why not do something more aggressive in terms of a share repurchase? I understand that you did a pretty sizable one the third quarter, but what's preventing kind of making hay when the sun is out in terms of the current valuation today, I'm doing something more aggressive, potential, even in Dutch.

Yes, I mean, I don't have the exact numbers in front of me, but give or take $150 million, which is 5% of our capital we bought back in less than a quarter. So, I'd say we were fairly aggressive. The quarter before that stock was at an all-time high and we set that one out. Plus, we were also trying to see will loan growth come back or not. So, our philosophy on stock buybacks before the pandemic used to be, we'll just do a little bit every day, we're not going to worry about exactly what the stock price is. This year has been a little different. We have been more opportunistic, more leaning into it when stock is lower and backing away when it's higher, because I just see a lot of volatility even now. For the next several months, I think, there will be ups and downs, nothing to do with us, just the market, right. One piece of bad news from Dr. Fauci or from somebody else. And you can have big movements in the stock market. So, we will use that to our advantage. We're authorizing another $150 million between those two authorizations and what we started the year with, which was another about roughly $40 million, that's a lot of stock in a year and we'll keep doing more. And it's not like we're going balance sheet, you saw our balance sheet shrink $400 million this quarter. So, until we see line utilization, come back and roads squarely in front of us, we'll continue on the strategy. We have fairly good amount of room here given our capital position, which is so strong.

Okay, great. I appreciate I'll step back in the queue.

Somebody just waved to me and said it's $130 million…

For the quarter.

For the quarter. So, I was rounding the numbers there, not quite $150 million, but $130 million.

Our next question is coming from the line of Dave Rochester with Compass Point. Your line is open.

Hey, good morning, guys.

Hey Dave.

Good morning.

Back on the buyback topic, you just mentioned, Raj, you'll keep doing more beyond this buyback. I was just curious as you are looking at your excess capital position, how much do you think you've got in excess, because you'll be growing loans hopefully faster next year. Just curious how you think about that?

Dave, we're kind of in the sick of our capital planning process for next year right now, and I'm going to defer providing specific guidance around that, I think, until our next call. I don't want to throw numbers out there preliminarily while we're in the sick of that process. But you're right, we do appreciate the fact that there's a lot of capital and there is room to go.

Yes.

We're not done.

Now I guess, just given where the stock is and I think you already mentioned this, if we're in the low 40s for at least a good part of the quarter, maybe not that long, but it would seem like you would continue that that not necessarily aggressive, but being active in the buyback.

Yes fair.

If the stock stays what it was it has been for the last three months, we will continue to buy.

Yes.

If it goes up to $51, like it was the previous quarter, we'll probably pull back a little. So, we'll create it a little bit, yes.

Yes. That all makes sense. Okay. And then maybe switching to loans it was good to see some, net growth there, ex the PPP and it sounded like you are done on the New York City multifamily runoff going forward. And you mentioned some positive dynamics there. Are you guys thinking that maybe you could see some growth in that book here or are you thinking that just stabilizes? And then can you just give an update on some of the other areas where you've mentioned runoff expectations? I know you've seen some runoff on Bridge for a while. Are you good on that in the next quarter or so or do you think that that runoff looks into the next year?

Yes, let me take each piece of that. So, I think we're good at where we are in the New York multifamily portfolio right now. We're encouraged by the underlying trends with people coming back to the city, especially coming back into free market type property. We have pipeline for that product in Q4. So, we're expecting to do new loans in that segment in the fourth quarter. So, I would expect that it will stabilize and there's a better outlook for that asset class and that geography over the course of the next couple of quarters. As it relates to Bridge, Bridge, I would break into two separate components. One would be the equipment finance business, and obviously the second would be the franchise business. So, the franchise business was part of our fairly significant focus on asset improvement. We did see franchise, some parts of the franchise business, particularly fitness went through some real challenges in the COVID process. We did reduce the portfolio within fitness reasonably, significantly and we probably will continue to do that, especially in one concept. But the numbers at this point aren't as large as they were when we first went into it. We've actually done some new franchise lending. In the last 90 days, we're centering our strategy around what we think are the higher performing concepts, better delivery models, better pickup models in that segment. And we did actually fairly large loan this quarter we funded it in that segment. So, we do see opportunities within the franchise segment. I think within the equipment finance segment, it's a bit more challenging. I don't see as much runoff going forward, but when you look at that segment, the competition within the leasing business is extremely robust for CapEx schedules and it's difficult. We saw some investment grade opportunities this week for seven-year fixed rate loans at 1% that the market gobbled up. So, while the credit was certainly good, we took a pass. I mean, we just don't see a great risk reward return in that segment right now. And given where the interest rate scenario is one of the things that we're trying to be careful about is buying into very long-term fixed rate loans, at a very low level. Now they could come back to bite us as rates grow up, as rates head up. So, the equipment finance business, I'd be a bit less optimistic in simply because just the return dynamics are not very good in that business.

Yes. Okay, I appreciate all the color there. Maybe switching to deposits real quick, as you're trying to figure out what's maybe hotter money and what's not, how much more do you think you have to run off or that you want to move out at this point? And when do you think you'll get back to growing the book again?

Hey, listen, I define growth in the book as growth in DDA, not in total deposits. So, this quarter we had a total deposit declined $493 million, but I don't think that is an issue at all. That doesn't drive profitability. DDA grew $324 million, on average DDA actually grew a lot more because what was it, 700…

$749 million.

$749 million. So, we're growing deposits that matter. It's hard for me to give you a number on what we want to chase out, but there is still – there are some large depositors. We also want to lower the average ticket size of the relationship. So, a lot of the growth that we're focusing on and we're paying our people for is really smaller ticket growth that doesn't create big numbers quarter-over-quarter, but it creates longer term value that's far more important for us than just large $30 million, $40 million, $50 million accounts. So, I'd take more consistent, slow growth that will stick with the bank for 10 and 20 years than take big, quick growth that won't. So, what you're seeing is that internal change in the deposit portfolio. It's hard to tell that from the outside, but inside we're focused, laser-focused on that bringing down and not paying – bringing down average relationship size, deeper cross sell, paying more for more cross sold accounts. So even within DDA there is a difference between DDA relationship one and relationship two, and we're distinguishing that and we're paying people differently. So, like I said, on the surface, it looks, our job is done. We're at 33% DDA to total deposits and cost of funds now in the teens. But I know that internally we still have more work to do. It may not change those ratios that much, it may not even move the cost of funds down that much, but it will improve the deposit franchise for the long-term.

Yes. Got it. Great. Thanks for all the color,

Our next question, coming from the line of Steven Alexopoulos with JPMorgan. Your line is open.

Steve you might be on mute.

I think we lost him.

Yes, we may have lost him. Let's go to the next caller.

Our next question is coming from line of Brady Gailey with KBW. Your line is open.

Hey, thanks. Good morning, guys.

Hey, Brady.

Good morning.

Good morning, Brady.

Another one on long. Not necessarily near term, but Raj, when you look at BankUnited, when you look at the markets, you're in, especially there in Florida, over the next three or four years, or kind of longer term, what do you think is an appropriate growth rate to consider for BankUnited?

I think if you look backwards in our history, there was a time when we were growing 25%, 28% a year. I don't think we ever return to that level. I don't think that's appropriate for a lending institution to grow. But at the same time, if I look at sort of what is a sort of 75 percentile level of growth, it probably is low double digits, give or take 10%. That would be an appropriate level. But that's generally made up of lots of highs and lows because there is no normal in any one time, right. We're living through a weird time right now, and we may be living through something very different a year from now. But if you were to just for modeling purposes, long term, think about it, I would say, that feels kind of like 10%, 11%, 12% both balancing left side and the right side of the balance sheet. But that is an approximation and an average of what can be a lot of low and highs.

All right guys. And then Raj I know you guys are not ready to talk about any new markets that you are expanding into. But can you just help us think about how big of a splash that's going to be, like when you go into a new market, will it be notably EPS dilutive with an earn back of a year or two? How big of a splash do you think you are going to make when you do decide which market to go into?

Brady, we’ve entered new markets in the past. New York was sort of the exception because it was very unique. But when we entered Orlando, or Jacksonville, or even some of the newer businesses, that may not be a new market, but when we did Pinnacle or we did the warehouse business, pick any one of them, I don't think it materially impacts the bottom line for the first 12 months up or now, because we don't try to jump in and start doing hundreds of millions of dollars right it off the bat. We take a more measured approach at least for the first full year, because usually the team is new, you are trying to build into your culture, you are trying to get comfortable with them, and they are trying to get comfortable with you. And generally, we go through what all of your cycle before we start to put it into a higher gear. So, in three or four years, it will definitely be meaningful to the bottom line, but in 12 months, it's not. So, we never have had ran strategy or anything. It's always been, make some investments, some of them will pan out some won't. But we also don't want do anything, which will just be a distraction for the long-term and never really add anything to the bottom line. There are ideas like that that come up, which we swat away because we don't want get distracted by something within five years will be $300 million. That's also a waste of our time and resources. But anything we do the goal will be that over time, it will be, success will be measured in billions of dollars, but not in the first 12 months.

All right. That that's fair. And then the last question for me is on the PPP fees recognized in the quarter, I think, the last quarter was $4 million, it was $4 million. I think this quarter, you said it was down a little bit. What was the amount of fees recognized?

It was less than a $1 million Brady, I think, around $800,000.

Okay.

Yes.

All right, great. Thank you, guys.

Thanks, Brady.

Our next question is coming from the line of David Bishop with Seaport Research. Your line is open.

Yes, good morning.

Good morning, David.

Hi David.

Hi. A quick question with the build in the residential mortgage this quarter. Just curious if that had a material effect? Do you expect to have a material effect in terms of your interest rate risk positioning, moving forward, just curious if that had much of an impact?

No, not really Brady [ph] the balance sheet remains moderately asset sensitive. We hedge it at the top of the house. So, it really, isn't going to have a material impact on the interest rate risk position.

And remind us in terms of loan floors, just curious what we might have to see from a – a movement from the Fed to penetrator have a significant impact on loan floors on the portfolio?

No. Again, I don't think so. There, especially not with a movement from the Fed, I don't think you'll see a material impact from floors initially.

Got it. And then a housekeeping question.

Operating expenses where we have floors that are operative today in the warehouse business; so it's not going to be that big of a thing.

Got it. And Leslie, how should we think about the effective tax rate? You said there was some noise this quarter, just maybe how that pans out into fourth quarter in 2022?

Yes. I mean, it'll be down a little bit in the fourth quarter and the main driver of that is probably mill down around the 24% level. And the main driver of that is just that the Florida tax rate. Florida just enacted a law that reduced the 2021 tax rate to just a little over 3%. And then it goes back to normal in 2022. So, I guess we'll take it while we get it, but...

Got it remind me. And what's the normal rate for 2022?

More than half.

Great, thank you.

Our next question coming from the line of Jared Shaw with Wells Fargo. Your line is open.

Hi, good morning. This is Timur Braziler filling in for Jared. If we could just circle back again on the loan growth, I'm just wondering how much visibility is there to the level of future pay down activity or M&A activity in the space. And then when you combine that with the low utilization rates, I guess, are we close to reaching an inflection point of kind of both of those stabilize and how meaningful could that inflection point be?

So, I'll answer them separately. When it comes to line utilization, we have almost no visibility. People don't give us a heads up when they are going to draw the line or pay down a line. We often find out the same day or the day before. Our M&A activity and payoffs happening for those reasons. We have maybe a month's worth of view, but it's not like we know a quarter out or two quarters out somebody's going to sell their company a building. We'll only find out when it's the payoff is maybe three weeks away or four weeks away. Production we obviously have a much better handle on. We know what the pipeline is – with a fair amount of certainty we know what we're closing this quarter. And we even know a decent amount for next quarter. There's always fallout that happens. Things get delayed and all that stuff, but we have enough practice over the years to know what percentage will actually pipeline will close and what will this physical way, what will slip that we feel pretty good about payoff and line utilization is, is much harder.

Okay. And maybe asking the payoff question in a different way; as much of that or do you get a sense that any of that is kind of pent-up activity from what didn't happen in 2020? Or are we in a new normalized level where we should just expect there to be more M&A activity moving down kind of market cap?

I think cost of capital has come down for everything. That's what is driving it. It’s a lot of money people have and they borrow at very low rates and so cheap money they will fuel M&A consolidation. A –Raj Singh: Yes. I would say in many cases, even our clients that are purchased in M&A transactions, they themselves do not have visibility into it because they were not running a show. Many of these are unsolicited efforts by private equity to get into this space. I mean, normally if somebody's actually going to put the company up for sale and run a process. We tend to know that a little bit more in advance, but many of these are unsolicited moves by private equity to enter into certain industry segments with certain companies, and they kind of come out of the blue.

Okay. Understood. And then just, if I could just one more follow up on deposits, some of the mix shift there on the interest-bearing side. The movement out of the savings and money market accounts and the slight uptick in time deposits; are you trying to capture some duration? Are you getting any customers?

Those two things are really unrelated.

Okay.

The take up in time deposit, it's not like the money shifted from directly the money market bucket to the time deposit bucket. Those two things are actually unrelated. What comes in and time deposits kind of comes in we're not really making a push in that space. The money market run-off with Raj and Tom described to you earlier, more just reducing our exposure to some of these large accounts that we think may be price sensitive in rising rate environments. So, I don't really think there's a relationship between the two things

Understood. Thank you.

But not a direct one anyway.

Receiving the whole price between 10 and 20 basis points for the most part.

Yes.

And each quarter, obviously we have runoff of what was a CD book that is maturing, and we have that this quarter and we'll see...

So, it did pick up a little bit this quarter, but I think that was anything where we were out campaigning or advertising or anything like that.

Our next question coming from the line of Christopher Marinac with Janney Montgomery Scott. Your line is open.

Hey, thanks. Good morning. I want to follow up on technology; Raj in a broader perspective, I mean, how do you feel your position now for your digital build-out. What is left to do – do you still think that you have what you need for the next five years for BankUnited?

Yes. So, I've spoken about this at length in a lot of investor meetings. I think you'll never be done in technology. That's sort of the sea change in technology. I grew up in that mentality of; do we have enough to get to $50 billion or $70 billion or whatever? Do we have enough technology or do we have to do more spend? I don't think we can think of technology in those terms anymore. I think it is a constant spend because it is evolving faster. And I don't actually think of that as a negative thing. I think technology is what is driving business now. So, the more you spend on technology, it's almost like we should think about producers. You spend on producers to grow business. You never ever thought twice about spending on producers is a bad thing. I think it's the same with technology. It should enable business. It should enable solving customer pain points when you go find them and you can solve them, you can create an edge for yourself in the marketplace and you can capture market share. That's really the transformation that we've actually gone through over the last four or five years. So, to your question over the next five years, we know what we're spending on over the next 12 or 18 months. Those projects are on the fly, but there will be more stuff that will come after that, which we may not have identified today, but there will be budget that will be put in place. And we will find new niches and new customer pain points to solve and develop solutions for them, and then go sell them and get our market share. So, it is a big cultural change inside of banking and we are working heavily on commercial payments hub is what we call that, that's our big spend over the next 12 months or so, which hopefully by this time next year we will be live. But I'm sure there'll be some things which will go beyond that.

Great. Thanks for that. And I guess from your perspective, your competitive position is still as good as ever, if not better as a result of what you've invested in.

Yes, absolutely. It is, four or five years ago, maybe we were doing a little bit of catch up, but once we actually went onto the cloud invested in the platforms that we have, I feel pretty good about where we are today, but I never want to get complacent and say we're done now. We can actually just chill and have the IT team take a breather. There'll be no breather. There's always stuff that you will be working on. And I'm asking the front end of our company to work closely with the IT people, if we – all we do is sell our balance sheet. If we just buy and sell money, that is such a commoditized business, that you are not going to make an outside return on capital. You really have to start with defining a customer problem and then finding a solution that is unique and proprietary, solving it for that customer, and then going out and finding 10 other customers like that and trying to sell it, that that really is the heart of what we're trying to achieve medium and long-term. And that's a lot of the success you see in the deposit portfolio and some of the lending business we're doing. Yes, at the end of the day, of course, we make our money by spread income. We want people to take loans from us and put deposits with us, but they shouldn't do that just because we have the best price, they should do it because we solved a problem for them. And a large part of the deposit success we've had is actually that, products we invested in about three or four years ago. We don't advertise them too loudly for competitive reasons as you can fully appreciate, but that's really what it boils down to. In some ways that's what FinTech's are doing; if you think about it, right? They take a customer problem and they go and solve it. It's a very narrowly defined customer problem, but then they solve it really well. And they are good economic rents for solving that, and we're trying to do the same thing more on the commercial space.

Great. Raj, thank you very much for the background. Appreciate all the information this morning.

Thank you.

Our next question coming from the line of Samuel Varga with Stephens Inc. Your line is open.

Good morning. This is Samuel Varga from Stephens.

Good morning.

Good morning.

I wanted to go back just for a moment to loan growth and return into the residential and consumer portfolio where you had a pretty substantial uptake here. And I understand that $50 million of that has kind of explained out of the $750 million, so I wanted to ask where the additional $700 million of growth came from?

Just our regular jumbo correspondent portfolio.

It's hard to have completely smooth growth. I think if you go quarter-over-quarter, you'll see it up and down a lot. This quarter was high, but I don't think it was that high in the couple of quarters before that.

But that's really that additional growth. I know you see the title residential and other consumer, but the other consumer portion of that is so insignificant that I keep asking people, can I just take that out of the title, and they keep telling me no, because it's in there. It's all residential or almost all residential, and the big chunk of the growth for this quarter was in our jumbo portfolio.

Understood. Thank you. That's very helpful; and then just turning to yields a little bit. Could you give some additional color on the kind of the delta between the roll and the roll off rates?

So, I don't have the roll off rates in front of me. The roll-on rates and the residential book are running 2.45 to 2.50 and then the commercial book a little below three right now.

Great. And then on the securities book what sort of rates are rolling on these days?

Over for the quarter average 1.20.

Awesome. And then I guess my next question would be if you could just give a sense for the effective duration of that securities book currently?

The configuration of it?

No, no, the duration.

Oh, the duration. It's about 1.60; it's sub-2 and it has, it's been consistent for a long time, but about 1.60.

Great. Thank you very much. That would be all for me today.

Okay.

Great. Thank you.

Our next question coming from the line of Steven Alexopoulos with JPMorgan. Your line is open.

Hey, can you guys hear me?

There you are.

Good morning.

There we go. Good morning. Raj, I wanted to ask this question. So other banks are seeing elevated payoffs too, but they're also seeing stronger commitment growth. It looks like your commitments were up by less than 2% in the quarter. And even what you went through with the Delta variant, the impact basic less in quite a bit of Florida. I would've thought those commitments would've picked up. Do you have any color there?

What – which commitments specifically?

Commercial – commercial commitments.

I don't think we've actually disclosed that number. Well, I guess that part in the deck. Yes, yes.

It's in the deck, Leslie.

Yes. That doesn't include the pipeline though Steven. That's the commitments on the existing book that you're seeing in there.

Right. But as other banks are calling that out, they're seeing 5% growth quarter-over-quarter, think you guys are 1.5%. But just given Florida's fairly open economy, like what are you hearing from your customers? Are they not as optimistic on the prospects for their growth? It's just surprising that you're not seeing stronger commitment growth here.

Yes. I wouldn't necessarily say they're not as optimistic is what they see for the future, in terms of the business. Some of that, it's hard to answer that in a real granular way without sort of having deep insight into what everybody else's book looks like. Some of it can be mix of business...

Actually, a lot of that is mix of business. We're not in some of the – for example, the capital call line business which you were discussing actually just before this call, we're not a big player in that business. That has seen a significant amount of growth. All the private equity discussion that we've had on this call, how active private equity has gone. We think about what businesses would actually benefit from private equity growing so much. It would be a capital online line business, which we're not in any meaningful way. So, I think it's a mix of business. Our lines tend to be formula-based lines against inventory and receivables. Well, inventories are struggling for all the reasons to read about every day in the paper. And shelves are not stock and shelves aren't going to get stocked and receivables aren't going to grow. We are going to lack with that. So, I think it has probably got to do with the kind of line business we do versus some of our competitors might do.

Okay.

Yes. I would probably also add Steven that, as we think about the sales team that we have and what we're asking them to do the, the deposit growth, the TM growth and other things are a very center part of what we're asking people to spend a great deal of time on. Loan growth obviously is a piece of that, but when we look at – when we look at the activeness overall of a potential client, it isn't just a commitment size number that's attractive to us. It's kind of a full banking relationship kind of number. And so, we're not as solely focused on commitment as being the predominant driver of where we put sales effort as much as we are, that's an important component, but as much as we are. Will this drive NIDDA growth? Will we get operating a TM business out of it? And is this a long-term applying for the organization that we find attractive?

Okay. That's good color. I wanted to ask, so residential was strong this quarter on the loan growth side. Were you guys just more opportunistic given C&I coming in a bit light, or should we expect strong growth and resi to continue?

I actually looking at the pipeline for resi right now, I don't think it will be a repeat of this quarter. I think a few things fell into place. Some of it was actually just things that rolled off from the previous quarter into this quarter. So, I think this was an outside quarter for resi. I don't expect it to be that strong next quarter.

Okay. Thanks. And then finally, if I could squeeze one more. And Leslie on the other fee income line, what's putting so much downward pressure on that? I think it's down just under 30% now year-over-year?

Yes. So, Steve, that's a kitchen sink line, I guess, is my best way to describe it. There's just a lot of things in there that could be up or down in any given quarter. I don't think there's anything going on in there that I would call a trend. A couple of the things that happened this quarter we actually had a negative mark on our commercial servicing rights, which in the overall scheme of things are very immaterial and come out of the SBA portfolio. There was a negative mark on some of our [indiscernible] this quarter. It's just kind of miscellaneous episodic things, none of which I think are indicative of any kind of trend.

Okay. But is this level a decent run rate we should assume?

Actually, no, probably a little higher actually is a better run rate. I think we had a couple negative things that went through there this quarter that I think we're kind of not normal.

Okay. Great. Thanks for taking my questions.

Thank you.

I'm showing no further questions. At this time, I would now like to turn the call back over to Mr. Raj for any closing remarks.

Thank you very much for joining us. And we'll talk to you. Thank you. Stay safe, everyone.

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