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Bio-Rad Laboratories, Inc. (BIO)

Q3 2018 Earnings Call· Thu, Nov 1, 2018

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Operator

Operator

Good day, and welcome to the Q3 2018 Bio-Rad Laboratories Conference Call. At this time, all participants are on a listen-only mode. Late, we will conduct a question-and-answer session and instructions will follow at that time. I would now like to introduce your host for today's conference, Ron Hutton. You may begin.

Ronald W. Hutton - Bio-Rad Laboratories, Inc.

Management

Thank you, Twanda. Before we begin the call, I would like to caution everyone that we will be making forward-looking statements about management's goals, plans and expectations, our future financial performance, and other matters. Because our actual results may differ materially from our plans and expectations, you should not place undue reliance on these forward-looking statements. And I encourage you to review our filings with the SEC, where we discuss in detail our risk factors in our business. The company does not intend to update any forward-looking statements made during the call today. Our remarks today will also include references to non-GAAP net income and non-GAAP diluted income per share, which are financial measures that are not defined under generally accepted accounting principles. Investors should review the reconciliation of these non-GAAP measures to the comparable GAAP results contained in our earnings release. With that, I'd like to turn the call over to Christine Tsingos, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer.

Christine A. Tsingos - Bio-Rad Laboratories, Inc.

Management

Thanks, Ron. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining us. On the call today are Norman Schwartz, our CEO; Annette Tumolo, President of our Life Science Group; and John Hertia, President of our Clinical Diagnostics Group. Today we will review our results on a GAAP basis and then provide some commentary and insight to our results on a non-GAAP basis. Net sales for the third quarter of 2018 were $545.1 million and growth of 2.1% versus the same period last year sales of $534.1 million. On a currency neutral basis, sales increased 3.4%. During the quarter we experienced good demand across many of our key product lines with particular strength noted in the Americas and Asia-Pacific. When comparing to last year, remember that the third quarter of 2017 included an estimated $12 million of revenue that was recovered from the earlier ERP related disruption in Europe. If we neutralized for those recovered sales as well as for approximately $6 million of sales that were pulled forward into the second quarter of this year, we estimate that currency neutral growth for the third quarter of 2008 was nearly 7%. Let's look at the segment performance a little closer. Life Science sales in the third quarter were $206.6 million, an increase of 7.1% on a reported basis when compared to last year and growth of 8% on a currency neutral basis. Much of the growth in the third quarter was driven by continued strong demand for our cell biology, digital PCR, western blot, and food safety products, all of which grew double digits. We also experienced another quarter of increased demand for our process media product line. Life Science growth in the quarter was offset somewhat by the anticipated decrease in sales of RainDance products by approximately $4 million. On a…

Operator

Operator

Our first question comes from the line of Brandon Couillard with Jefferies. Your line is open.

Brandon Couillard - Jefferies LLC

Analyst

Thanks. Good afternoon.

Christine A. Tsingos - Bio-Rad Laboratories, Inc.

Management

Hi, Brandon.

Brandon Couillard - Jefferies LLC

Analyst

Christine in terms of the gross margin in the third quarter, could you help us bridge the year-over-year decline in terms of the moving parts between the impact of the instrument placements, currency, the inventory charges? And then to confirm the operating margin guidance for the year, does that include the impact of FX, which I suspect has gotten much worse for you in terms of the full year guide. Any chance you could quantify the effect of just currency in terms of the updated margin guidance for the year?

Christine A. Tsingos - Bio-Rad Laboratories, Inc.

Management

Okay. Well, in terms of what's impacting the gross margin between the various categories that I talked about, I'd say about half of the impact relates to mix if you will and the other half is really just added costs for either continuing to transition the European operations or cost associated with the upfront investment in these reagent rental placements. And then as far as FX is concerned in terms of impact, it is true that it is becoming more and more of a negative impact and we do have nine months behind us and so that's part of the headwind that we face. I don't have a specific breakout, Brandon, as to how much is of the change in outlook is related to FX. But let me see, if I can find it while we continue with the call.

Brandon Couillard - Jefferies LLC

Analyst

Thanks. I'm just curious, given this is kind of like the third quarter that we've seen the heavy instrumentation placement mix that, I would have I guess suspected that some of the placements that took place in the first half the year would have been at least contributing or are starting to pull through reagent revenues from those. Can you help us sort of understand sort of the ramp timelines with some of these blood typing instruments as well as the BioPlex 2200s and really as to – if there is something else going on beyond just the instrument mix, whether it might be COGS inflation or factory or ops issues?

Christine A. Tsingos - Bio-Rad Laboratories, Inc.

Management

So let me answer a little bit of that and I certainly welcome John Hertia to pipe in. I don't want this to be interpreted that we've placed instruments and they're not generating any revenue. They do indeed, after – about – it takes about 90 days to complete the installation and get the customer exempted (00:21:33) and then the reagent revenue starts to flow. I think that the difference is that the reagents are at a lower price and cumulatively, you need a lot of those to move the needle of a business as big as our blood typing business. But nonetheless, certainly the instruments are beginning to produce revenue. The higher costs that we incur when you think about it as we're feeding the U.S. market, we are bearing the additional cost of bringing these instruments which are manufactured in Europe and the reagents as well into the U.S. and placing them and taking on the initial warranty et cetera. Those – one is a true additional cost which we will continue to offset in other ways. And the other is timing, again, of just what it takes upfront as you initially install these versus the reagent flow later in the product life cycle. So John Hertia, I don't know if you want to add anything of what you're seeing for the businesses blood typing or the BioPlex 2200 in the U.S. and around the world?

John Hertia - Bio-Rad Laboratories, Inc.

Analyst

I think placements of both have been stronger than expected in the U.S. The ramp up time to reagents in the BioPlex is 60 to 90 days from the time they get the instrument to the time they're running the reagents. It's a little longer for blood typing in some institutions where it could take three to up to six months to do all of the validation and cross validation of results before they come fully online simply because of the sensitivity of the results and the product line. And so that ramp up takes a little bit longer but it's definitely beginning to kick in.

Christine A. Tsingos - Bio-Rad Laboratories, Inc.

Management

That's a good point.

Brandon Couillard - Jefferies LLC

Analyst

Thanks. That's helpful. And then last one I guess, Christine, anything changed in your view with respect to your 2020 margin targets and your ability to reach those and how would you expect, I guess, the pace of that margin expansion to play out kind of over the next proceeding two years. Thank you.

Christine A. Tsingos - Bio-Rad Laboratories, Inc.

Management

Yeah. No, I think that's a great question, Brandon. And we're in the process right now of doing a very tight bottoms-up of our 2019 forecast. And we always do the out years as well. I really don't think that there is anything that we're seeing today that changes our target of hitting our 20% goal by the end of 2020. I think clearly being shy of where we wanted the first year of that progression to be, puts a little more pressure on mining the benefits and the margin expansion in 2019 and 2020. But even with that being said, as John Hertia just pointed out, the pace that we're placing these instruments in the U.S. is higher than we'd anticipated, but – that means the cost that we're bearing today is higher than we would have anticipated. But at the same time it bodes well for good margin business, higher margin business down the road. The other factors that are part of our 2020 vision, the specific projects that we're working on and actions that we're taking beyond what's going on with the topline, those are still in place and those are still being worked on and we are starting to see the benefit of many of those and I guess you can see that more in cash flow than you can right now in our operating results. But that's a long winded way for me to say, I think we're still targeting our 20%. I think we believe strongly in that goal. The trajectory is a little bit different in terms of how it rolls out than we would have originally anticipated, but everything, nonetheless, is still identified.

Brandon Couillard - Jefferies LLC

Analyst

Thanks. That's very helpful. I'll leave it there and let some of the newbies jump in. Thank you.

Christine A. Tsingos - Bio-Rad Laboratories, Inc.

Management

And Norman, I don't know if you want to add any commentary to the 2020 outlook or not?

Norman D. Schwartz - Bio-Rad Laboratories, Inc.

Analyst

No, obviously we're still working diligently to meet that plan. And we've got lots of irons in the fire there to make that happen.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Patrick Donnelly with Goldman Sachs. Your line is open. Patrick Donnelly - Goldman Sachs & Co. LLC: Great. Thanks for taking the question. Christine, maybe just on the instrument placements, can you help us think about when gross margins reflect higher on these placements? I guess trying to get out when you currently feel like you're going to see that impact on a corporate level given the increased instrument placements relative to your expectations? Is this going to continue for another couple of quarters in terms of gross margin dilution? Or when do we see those reagent pull throughs really inflect on the gross margins?

Christine A. Tsingos - Bio-Rad Laboratories, Inc.

Management

Yeah, Patrick, if I kind of pick up on John Hertia's comments from a moment ago much of the drag is related to feeding the U.S. blood typing market and that's bringing with it additional costs and the labs need to not only go through installation, but they have several validation and crossover studies that they need to complete. And as John just said that can take 90 days, it can take up to six months. So while we do expect some recovery of the gross margin in Q4, I don't think that's really reflective yet of the cumulative impact of higher reagent revenue. We're not prepared to talk about 2019 specifically but if we think about spending the full year of 2018 placing instruments in the U.S. and beginning to get those, help their labs with the validation and start that reagent stream, then as we move through 2019, I would expect that we would, on a corporate level, start to see the benefits of that. So we'll have more specific insight on the fourth quarter call when we give our 2019 outlook. Patrick Donnelly - Goldman Sachs & Co. LLC: Okay, that's helpful. And I guess when we think about – Brandon asked about the 2020 targets, you guys sound like you're still confident there. I guess when we think about the progression, like you said, maybe the progression is going to be a little bit different starting on a little lower level here but are there things that, as the gross margins have kind of come in a little lighter than you expected, you now will pull forward some of these initiatives that you've talked about between procurement, facility consolidations, the ERP systems, costs coming down? Is there opportunity to move some of those costs forward to next year to kind of offset a little bit of this gross margin issue before it inflects higher, or what are your thoughts on that? How nimble can you be?

Christine A. Tsingos - Bio-Rad Laboratories, Inc.

Management

So I think there are some things that we can pull forward. Other projects that – as Norman mentioned that we've been working on and identified, they kind of have their own timeline especially when you're dealing with changes in manufacturing in a regulated environment that just takes time, but that was kind of baked into the plan. It will help that some of the temperament of the gross margin this year has been pretty situational not just with we've been talking about, for example, the U.S. blood typing market, but situational with working through the optimization of our European operating model after tremendous change in 2017 and some of the charges that we've taken, especially the inventory-related charges, those obviously we don't anticipate to repeat. That's more situational, so that something easier to overcome. It's not a change in course or practice or acceleration as you were asking about. But it also isn't something that would force us to have a course change. Maybe I've totally confused you. Hello?

Operator

Operator

Mr. Donnelly, your line is open. Check to see if you are on mute?

Christine A. Tsingos - Bio-Rad Laboratories, Inc.

Management

That's all right, Twanda. We can go on to the next question and then Patrick can get back in the queue if he has more – if he needs clarification.

Operator

Operator

All right. Our next question comes from the line of Jack Meehan of Barclays Capital. Your line is open.

Jack Meehan - Barclays Capital, Inc.

Analyst

Hi. Thanks. Without going overkill on the margin front, I did have one more on the gross margin. I was curious whether you considered anything one-time within the adjusted gross margins in the quarter. One of the things you talked about was the higher cost for service. I understand kind of the mix dynamic and whatnot. But just curious whether there was anything else that would roll off as we move into 2019 on the gross margin front.

Christine A. Tsingos - Bio-Rad Laboratories, Inc.

Management

Yeah. So Jack, the only thing that would – to use your words one-time and maybe and I'll call it more situational, if you will, is we continue to kind of right size and optimize the inventory in Europe. And there was as such probably another couple million dollars that we took a charge for in the third quarter and we had an even larger charge that we talked about on the Q2 call. It's not something that I'd be willing to non-GAAP out because it is part of running our business but it also though is a pretty specific identifiable event, if you will.

Jack Meehan - Barclays Capital, Inc.

Analyst

Maybe just from a management perspective, I was curious, Norman, is there any update in terms of the hiring process for a COO?

Norman D. Schwartz - Bio-Rad Laboratories, Inc.

Analyst

Yes, we're actively looking at other candidates at the moment and we've got a fresh slate that's being developed and so we're continuing to work on that.

Jack Meehan - Barclays Capital, Inc.

Analyst

Great. And then maybe just from a revenue perspective, I thought the Life Science revenues looked pretty good in the quarter, seemed relatively broad based. The one I have to ask about is the process media. What the level of contribution was there year-over-year and just how that might swing come the fourth quarter?

Christine A. Tsingos - Bio-Rad Laboratories, Inc.

Management

So it's a good question. I think process media was up about $8 million year-over-year. As we move into the fourth quarter, I think we expect it to be down year-over-year because that will be their first kind of tough compare. It was Q4 last year when it came roaring back and that's a little bit of the reason why despite another good quarter of topline growth we're keeping with that 4%, 4.5% outlook. The other thing I'd remind you of though is if we exclude the process media sales I think that Life Science still grew about 6.5%. And really we shouldn't exclude all $8 million because we did, through the shutdown of our RainDance operation, see a year-over-year decrease of sales of about $4 million and that kind of offset some of that $8 million year-over-year.

Jack Meehan - Barclays Capital, Inc.

Analyst

Great. Final one if I can squeeze it in is I'd be curious, I'm down here in San Antonio at AMP, what the latest is for droplet digital in terms of getting some of the FDA approvals? I think one you've been working on with BCR-ABL just if there are any updates in terms of the timeline for having clinical test approved? Thank you.

Annette Tumolo - Bio-Rad Laboratories, Inc.

Analyst

This is Annette. I'll take that. So we have – we're in the submission process, so we are talking to the FDA all the time and I wish I had a crystal ball to know exactly when our clearance would come, but we expect it anytime. So we're continuing our regular dialogue with them on this process.

Jack Meehan - Barclays Capital, Inc.

Analyst

Thanks, Annette. The watch continues?

Annette Tumolo - Bio-Rad Laboratories, Inc.

Analyst

Yeah.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Dan Leonard with Deutsche Bank. Your line is open.

Dan Leonard - Deutsche Bank Securities, Inc.

Analyst · Deutsche Bank. Your line is open.

Thank you. A couple from me. So you talked at length about the better instrument placements than you had expected. Can you help us at all put some framing around what that means for the revenue line going forward? And maybe this is a John Hertia question, is this something that lifts the Diagnostics business out of its low-single-digit trajectory into something higher in forward periods?

Christine A. Tsingos - Bio-Rad Laboratories, Inc.

Management

So before John jumps in on that, I mean obviously we're not ready to talk about 2019 yet. But even with that, Dan, this is just one part of our business. We have several sizable businesses within Diagnostics, certainly within Life Science. And no single one of them is some big overwhelming needle mover if you will, everything is a contributor. Certainly in terms of year-over-year growth, I think blood typing in the U.S. should be able to outpace the industry averages and the company averages and help move the needle. But it's just one of many opportunities that we have going forward. So I don't know, Dan, if that answers your question or what – if you're looking for something different.

Dan Leonard - Deutsche Bank Securities, Inc.

Analyst · Deutsche Bank. Your line is open.

I was looking for a little bit of framework but if – but I can leave it there. Secondly, Christine, I believe you went live with SAP in Italy, Spain, a couple of Nordic countries in Q3. Can you comment on how that went?

Christine A. Tsingos - Bio-Rad Laboratories, Inc.

Management

Yeah, no, thanks for asking. We did Southern Europe and the Nordics, went live at the beginning of July and it was a much less complicated implementation than the past because it was primarily commercial operations not the more complex manufacturing. I think so far so good. The team was pretty well prepared not just with the deployment but those that were catching the ball. It is always does take time for people to get used to new processes and screens and systems and charts and you name it. And so we'll continue to improve those, but I think we're pretty pleased at how well they were able to catch the ball and come right into the SAP world. A lot of lessons learned from the prior European deployments that we took advantage of.

Dan Leonard - Deutsche Bank Securities, Inc.

Analyst · Deutsche Bank. Your line is open.

Okay. Great. And then my final question on the buyback. Did you buy back any stock in the quarter or do you plan to buy back any going forward? Just any update on the authorization that you announced a year ago?

Christine A. Tsingos - Bio-Rad Laboratories, Inc.

Management

Sure. So as you probably know almost since the day we announced it we've kind of been in a blackout period. So we didn't buy any during the quarter. Though with that being said, I think we anticipate next week the trading window will open and it's not lost on us. The movement in the share price and the value that's there, so we're discussing the buyback internally now, vis-à-vis potential execution.

Dan Leonard - Deutsche Bank Securities, Inc.

Analyst · Deutsche Bank. Your line is open.

Okay. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. I'm showing no further questions at this time. I would now like to turn the call back over to Christine Tsingos for closing remarks.

Christine A. Tsingos - Bio-Rad Laboratories, Inc.

Management

Okay. Great. Well, thank you everyone for taking the time to join us today. We appreciate your interest in Bio-Rad, we appreciate your thoughtful questions and we look forward hopefully to seeing you soon. Bye-bye.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, that concludes today's call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect. Everyone have a wonderful day.