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Bausch Health Companies Inc. (BHC)

Q1 2021 Earnings Call· Tue, May 4, 2021

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Operator

Operator

Good morning, and welcome to the Bausch Health First Quarter 2021 Results Call. All participants will be in listen-only mode. [Operator Instructions] After today’s presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. [Operator Instructions] Please note, this event is being recorded. I’d now like to turn the conference over to Arthur Shannon, Senior Vice President, Head of Investor Relations and Global Communications at Bausch Health. Please go ahead.

Arthur Shannon

Analyst

Thank you, Drew. That’s quite impressive. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to our first quarter 2021 financial results conference call. Participating on today’s call are Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Mr. Joe Papa; and Chief Financial Officer, Mr. Paul Herendeen. In addition to this live webcast, a copy of today’s slide presentation and a replay of this conference call will be available on our website under the Investor Relations section. Before we begin, we’d like to remind you that our presentation today contains forward-looking information. We would ask that you take a moment to read the forward-looking statement legend at the beginning of our presentation as it contains important information. This presentation contains non-GAAP financial measures. For more information about these measures, please refer to Slide 2 of the presentation. Non-GAAP reconciliations can be found in the appendix of the presentation posted on our website. Finally, the financial guidance in this presentation is effective as of today only. It is our policy to generally not update guidance until the following quarter and not to update or affirm guidance, other than through broadly disseminated public disclosure. With that, it’s my pleasure to turn the call over to Joe.

Joe Papa

Analyst

Thank you, Art, and thank you everyone for joining us. Today, I will briefly run through some of the first quarter highlights before turning the call over to Paul Herendeen, our CFO, to review the financial results in detail and discuss our 2021 guidance. We’ll then review the recovery of the businesses and share our thoughts on driving growth in 2021 and beyond, and provide an update on the previously announced plan to spin-off Bausch and Lomb before opening the line for questions. Beginning with Slide 4, in 2021, we have three areas of strategic focus. First, continued to execute on the business recovery from COVID; second, unleashing growth drivers; and third, accelerating strategic alternatives to drive shareholder value. With that as a background, let’s move to Slide 6, where we showed our progress in each of these individual areas. Overall, our team has been able to adapt to the pandemic related challenges, and despite a few pockets of variability, recovery is in progress across our business. Total company revenue was flat on an organic basis and reported revenue grew by 1% compared to last year driven by the rebound in Global Vision Care, Salix and International Rx business. Importantly, our businesses generated strong cash flow from operations of $443 million in the first quarter. We are seeing strong performance, including market share gains and recovering from leading brands, including Thermage, TRULANCE, ULTRA, PreserVision and LUMIFY. We also have made good progress advancing science during the quarter, which resulted in the recent announcement of statistically significant favorable top line results from two Phase 3 trials. And with our focus on taking action to accelerate strategic alternative process, we repaid $200 million of debt in the first quarter using cash generated from operations and agreed to divest Amoun for approximately $740…

Paul Herendeen

Analyst

Thank you, Joe, that’s very nice of you. It’s been a privilege to be part of this team. We’ve accomplished a lot together and I’m certainly looking forward to my new role and working to unlock the value of BHC for all of our shareholders. So let’s go on the quarter. Before I discuss our performance in the quarter, it’s worth spending a minute to highlight the changes we’ve made to our segment reporting, with the new segment structure, you now see our pure play eye health business B&L and our global pharmaceutical business that I’ll call Bausch Pharma for now. We will rebrand Bausch Pharma at some point in the future. Within Bausch Pharma, we now show a segment P&L for the international pharma business. So this is the first time you get to look at the financial characteristics of a business that is diversified in every sense of the word, generates attractive margins and has the ability to drive consistent growth of revenue, profitability and cash flow over the long-term. To help you with the changes to the segment reporting, there are several slides in the appendix that map from the prior format to the current. On to the first quarter financial performance. Revenue was flat on an organic basis with Q1 of 2020. We’re not yet fully recovered from the impacts of COVID. So getting back to flat versus what was a reasonably strong Q1 last year is an important step along the way. Across our businesses, the recovery was and still is uneven. There continued to be setbacks in various regions due to tightening of restrictions as COVID flares and recedes. All in all, we are well on the road to recovery, but we’re not all the way there yet. If you turn to Slide 7,…

Joe Papa

Analyst

Thank you, Paul. Well let’s begin with Bausch & Lomb on Slide 15. First, we believe we have most integrated eye health business with sales in Surgical, Consumer, Ophtho Rx and Vision Care. We’ve provide the revenue breakdown for the segments core businesses in the chart on the left. While each of the businesses are in different stages of recovery, total segment organic revenue in the first quarter was near pre-COVID level, call it with few highlights, while Vision Care organic revenue grew 13% versus last year. And the U.S. growth was driven by Biotrue ONEday, ULTRA as well as the INFUSE launch. International Vision Care revenue grew by 19% versus last year. And our Daily SiHy lenses have now been launched in U.S., Australia, Hong Kong and Canada, and we just received approval in Taiwan. Global Consumer Ocuvite and PreserVision grew organically by 4% versus last year. And LUMIFY reported revenue grew by 28% compared to last year. And we continue to see strong e-commerce growth of 35% versus last year. Putting it in context, e-Commerce now accounts for 12% of the Bausch and Lomb U.S. Consumer Business, which is up from just 2% in 2017. Performance in Global Surgical was driven by international, which grew organically 3%. And finally although performance of Global Ophtho Rx was impacted by COVID and loss of exclusivity by VYZULTA TRx grew by 18% versus last year. The charts on Slide 16 show trends in key areas across the segment, all of which point to a recovery in progress for the Bausch and Lomb business. Turning now to Slide 17 for update on Salix, although Salix faced headwinds in the first quarter revenue recovered near pre-COVID levels down 1% compared to last year. Starting with XIFAXAN reported revenue decline of 2% versus last…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] The first question comes from Ken Cacciatore with Cowen and Company. Please go ahead.

Ken Cacciatore

Analyst

Hey, good morning, guys. Just had a question about the potential of a dual process here of analyzing different divisions for possible sale. Just wondering if you can give some commentary about how that’s going levels of interest, say, your desire to maybe affect sales. And then also in terms of timing, if there were to be a plural sales of different divisions, is that something that you’d want to do simultaneous, or is it something that you would announce separately? And then second question, we’re often asked about comparing your eye care business to the other eye care businesses that are out there. Can you just talk about some of the similarities and differences and maybe rationale why you should be ascribed similar value to those franchises? Thanks so much.

Joe Papa

Analyst

Okay. Let’s start with the potential sales and timing just to maybe recap a little bit of what we’ve done. Since Paul and I have joined the company, we have divested up until the announcement of Amoun, $3.8 billion of assets. And now with the Amoun, it’s now over $4.5 billion of asset proceeds we’ve received. They are at about 11 times EBITDA multiple what we’ve realized. So we’ve absolutely been willing to explore all the opportunities to divest assets to help increase shareholder value. Well, I can’t comment specifically, as you can understand about any specific asset that’s under consideration today, what I will want to reassure you and all of our investors that we take this process very serious, and we’re going to consider all the alternatives to help us increase shareholder value and create value across all of our businesses. So currently we are – I hope you understand, we are going to look at all the things that would be opportunities to create that shareholder value in the near-term and long-term. And that’s how we’ve been approaching this from really from day one since the fall when I got here. But that is what we’re going to do, we’ll continue to do and make sure that we check all the different possibilities for thinking about shareholder value creation. On the second part of your question, the B&L comparison to peers, we look across all the different opportunities. As I said in my earnings comments, accepting that I’m biased, we have a belief that Bausch and Lomb is the most integrated eye health company. And by that, I mean that we have the businesses on the surgical side, we have the prescription, we have the vision correction, we have the consumer. By having that integrated platform, we…

Ken Cacciatore

Analyst

Yes. Thanks, Joe, and congratulations, Paul, on your tenure here.

Joe Papa

Analyst

Thanks again. Our next question?

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Gary Nachman with BMO Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Gary Nachman

Analyst · BMO Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Thanks. Good morning. If Solta is one of the businesses you can ultimately divest, would you be committed to the medical derm business for the long haul, given some of the challenges there and how you said that you’ll be restructuring it? And then on the consumer side, just talk about how you’ve been spending more on DTC for those types of products to take advantage of the recovery coming out of it. And how you think that’ll sort of play out for the rest of the year in terms of spending? Thanks.

Joe Papa

Analyst · BMO Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Sure. Once again, on the Solta question, I’m not going to comment on individual assets for divestment. I will simply say that we are very, very pleased with the performance of the Solta aesthetic business. We all think – look at the aesthetic business and see that growth. And we think a large part of that growth is driven by what we refer to nowadays as the Zoom culture of people looking at themselves in high definition screens and saying they want to make sure they can improve the aesthetics of their face. And also in many parts of the world where they have not been able to travel, they’re investing more than theirselves. So clearly we think there’s a real trend on the continuation and growth of our Solta business. On the question of, I’m not going to comment about the divestment side, but we do view that the medical derm is a business that because of what we’ve been able to do and what Scott Hirsch has been able to do for us and looking at the profitable growth dynamics, we can look at investing in the med derm business, especially when we come up with compounds that we think can offer advantages for patients. The IDP-126 data is very, very favorable, its ability to reduce the overall number of lesions for patients with acne and importantly that quickness or speed in which it provides that relief. So it is something we’ll continue to look at that to divest in and certainly something we will look for what I referred to med derm as profitable growth for the future. On the – Paul, do you want to…

Paul Herendeen

Analyst · BMO Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Sorry. Gary, it’s Paul. I want to weigh in on this as well. I think that the med derm business, I called it out in my prepared remarks, we are repositioning that business in a different way than that we were thinking about it, say, 24, even 12 months ago. I think there was terrific opportunity there. You can see even what I talked about in terms of substantially reducing the OpEx intensity, what we have is a terrific position, number one. Number two, we have a very solid R&D capability that we’re in the process of, I should say, refocusing or pivoting that activity to different sorts of products. We think we have a great opportunity in med derm, but to be clear, it’s quite different than what the way we were thinking about it, even 12 or 18 months ago. So we’re excited about the long-term prospects there, but it’s different.

Joe Papa

Analyst · BMO Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

The numbers you’ve quoted on the consumer business are amazing. We’ve been able to grow that consumer business very dramatically. Obviously, the entire e-commerce business continues to grow. We are continuing to look at the direct-to-consumer activities. But we feel that our products are – patients are responding to our products very well. LUMIFY is a great example, I mentioned in call, its growth versus last year is very surprising and continues to show great growth. If you look at the trends in the data that we put forth in the charts, you can see the LUMIFY data and how it’s performed as well as the overall consumer business on Page 16 of our chart. You can see the U.S. Bausch and Lomb consumption change year-over-year, dramatic increase in consumer increase versus what we saw a year ago and those trends continue. We also see what was happening with LUMIFY, clearly recovery and progress. So we’re going to continue to spend behind that business. We expect to see continued strong consumer demand and we’ll continue to move forward with that. From a long-term recovery point of view, we believe that’s going to be one of the important growth factors that helps the B&L business, truly have what we believe is going to be an integrated eye health business. Operator, take the next question, please.

Gary Nachman

Analyst · BMO Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. The next question comes from David Amsellem with Piper Sandler. Please go ahead.

David Amsellem

Analyst · Piper Sandler. Please go ahead.

Thanks. So I understand the thought process of surrounding the aspirational leverage ratios for each business, but I wanted to drill down on your thinking about the sustainability of that 6.5 times for the pharma business. And I guess where I’m going from this is – where I’m going with this is, do you see that business as a growth business given how things have transpired with derm, for instance, and other, and also what looks like the maturation of XIFAXAN? I guess the question here is, is this a situation where over time those leverage ratios could conceivably deteriorate? At one point you had something called the significant seven that didn’t really materialize. So how do you think about that longer term? And how should we be thinking about the cap structure of that business over time? Thanks.

Joe Papa

Analyst · Piper Sandler. Please go ahead.

Sure. So we’ve done a lot of thinking on this. And I want to step back and then I’ll make a couple of comments, and Paul may want to add to it. But I remind you that the Bausch Pharma business, as we’re thinking about it has very high margin business. If you look at the pages that we put together for derm is a 50% margin, Salix was over 67%, diversified 70%. They’re very high margin businesses, first comment. Second comment is that we do expect the Bausch Pharma business to have an advantageous tax rates, mid-single-digit growth, very diversified and low CapEx. So from that point of view, they will generate high amount of cash. And as we stated in the call, majority of that cash will be used for debt pay down. So I do think that as we contemplate this, we do believe there is an opportunity for that business to be one of two great businesses and Bausch and Lomb being the other. So we are looking at it from the point of view of what each business can appropriately carry for leverage. Paul, anything you wanted to add to that comment?

Paul Herendeen

Analyst · Piper Sandler. Please go ahead.

Yes. I think the key is, and Joe hit on it is, we believe that the portfolio that is representative of Bausch Pharma has the prospect to grow mid-single digits over the near-term. And that business will delever pretty quickly, and let me rephrase that, call it at a good pace. So that in a relatively short period of time, I think you get more flexibility to be able to invest back in your business. And of course, implicit in that is you’re investing in R&D and invested in productive R&D. You will have the ability to demonstrate long-term growth prospects as well. I think I’ve been quite clear the cash flow characteristics of Bausch Pharma, it can handle 6.5 to 6.7 times net leverage. I used to say way back in one of my prior lives, not all adjusted EBITDA is created equal. When you have an excellent tax rate, and when you also have a relatively modest CapEx, you convert an awful lot of your earnings to cash. And if you prioritize that cash to improve your leverage that certainly is a big helper. If you have the ability to grow that certainly is a big helper to getting that leverage statistic down in relatively short order.

Joe Papa

Analyst · Piper Sandler. Please go ahead.

Operator, next question, please.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. The next question comes from Gregg Gilbert with Truist. Please go ahead.

Gregg Gilbert

Analyst · Truist. Please go ahead.

Good morning. First, what are your thoughts on the management team for the pharma, the RemainCo business? And what variables will factor into that decision and timeline? Secondly, you’ve been very clear that you’re open to any action that will enhance shareholder value to your credit. Is the sale of B&L a realistic possibility versus the spin that you announced? And lastly, Joe, if you end up leading a pure play eye care company, once the market has a chance to value it, what changes would you make to reinvestment rates, M&A strategy and urgency, cost structure, et cetera, it appears that successful spins have tended to be more about sort of specific changes over time and not just multiple arbitrage. Thanks.

Joe Papa

Analyst · Truist. Please go ahead.

Sure. Let me start with the leadership question that you asked first. Just step back a bit, the Board made a decision going back last year to create two great companies, a pure play eye health company and a diversified pharma business. As we’ve gone through this, the Board has thought through the process, and as with other SpinCos, the Board evaluated how can we build that leadership team of this SpinCo organization while at the same time ensuring that the Bausch healthcare team, which has already existed, continues to do very well and continues to move the business forward. The first big issue that we have with the spin is that we’ve got to build those new teams. So the Board has asked myself and Sam to build out the B&L SpinCo team and get it ready for an IPO or separation sometime after that October 2021 timeframe. So that’s what we’re going to do. My expectations on the Bausch Pharma or the remaining Bausch healthcare team is that there is a process underway just like there was with B&L with internal and external candidates, and the decisions will be made that in due course, sometime in the next several months. But I remind you that the remaining Bausch healthcare team is in place. We’ll obviously have to make some additional decisions there though with the total team. But the feeling was that we needed to make that spin decision, start building that spin team very soon realizing that we want it to be ready for a IPO separation sometime after that October 2021 date. On the question of the B&L versus sell versus spin, I guess the way I phrase it is that obviously I’m not going to be able to comment specifically on any sell process. I’ve seen the obvious rumors as you have seen them. Our view is we’re going to take all the steps required to set up Bausch and Lomb as a company that can be an IPO – opportunity to do an IPO or to separate at sometime after that October 2021 timeframe, we have a value in our mind for that business. But if there are others that want to pay a price that is equivalent to that value, we always going to do what we believe is the right thing to do for our shareholders and evaluate that those types of offers. But to me, what I’ll simply say is that we’ve got a pathway to take this business to spin-off Bausch and Lomb. We’re going to continue to make progress on that pathway. And as a Board and a leadership team, we’re always going to be open to other alternatives or pathways that can help create value for our shareholders. Paul, do you want to add anything to that?

Paul Herendeen

Analyst · Truist. Please go ahead.

No, you keep going, but I want to come back after.

Joe Papa

Analyst · Truist. Please go ahead.

On the question of what changes would we make to B&L in regard to investment in M&A, I think the first comment is, first and foremost, we think we’ve got a great business with Bausch and Lomb, 165-year legacy business so we think it’s a great business and one that we can continue to build on, number one. Number two, we think by having the integrated eye health business, by having the opportunity to have the surgical, the prescription, the vision correction, the consumer, that’s going to put us in a very important position as we think about what are the mega trends driving the eye health business, which we know are going to drive a significant need for myopia or eye vision correction. We know that people over the age of 65 use 8 times more eye health than people under the age of 65, that’s going to continue to be important. We know that more and more practices, especially in the United States are being consolidated. So having a place where we can offer integrated approach, those practices is going to be important, so we think we’ll be able to be an important supplier for those group practices that are being formed. So all of those I think are important, but what else is to me. Clearly one of the things that has limited our ability with Bausch and Lomb has been the leverage that it’s been part of the overall Bausch Health Company, as that leverage comes down, we would look to the opportunity to grow organically, to invest in the R&D and importantly, look at bolting on assets that can help us with the overall organic growth rate. So I think those are all some of the changes we’re thinking about, some of exciting things that we see in the future of Bausch and Lomb. Paul anything you want?

Paul Herendeen

Analyst · Truist. Please go ahead.

Yeah. I want to jump on that last point about once you spin the eye health business out, it is like, well is it better and the answer is, yes. It’ll start life as very well capitalized company with access to capital. It will have the ability to allocate capital to areas that will strengthen that entity’s competitive position, and it will do so without competing for capital with its brothers and sisters on the pharma side. I think that Joe, myself, Sam, the rest of the team here, we’ve done a pretty good job of allocating capitalize between different types of businesses. And I think that over the last several years, what you’ve seen is, we rotated a little bit and we did what we needed to do in order to be able to, for example improve the quality of that Ophtho Rx pipeline over the last call it 24 months. If you go further back, we took the steps that were necessary to ensure that we filled out the Vision Care portfolio with a Daily SiHy lens. Those were hard decisions. Back in the day, when you’re looking to say, I can invest here or I can invest there, having the eye health business B&L set up, again starting life as a well-capitalized entity it will have the ability to take the best decisions to improve the competitive position for that entity and to ensure that entity has the prospect to be able to deliver a really solid and sustainable growth.

Gregg Gilbert

Analyst · Truist. Please go ahead.

Thank you, gentlemen.

Joe Papa

Analyst · Truist. Please go ahead.

Operator, next question, please.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. The next question comes from Balaji Prasad with Barclays. Please go ahead.

Balaji Prasad

Analyst · Barclays. Please go ahead.

Hi, good morning and thanks for the questions. Joe, just want to focus on the recent top line of NOV03 and get some sense of your expectations around this opportunity. So we did an expert call where our expert highlighted the population is three times that of what Restasis or Xiidra is trading currently, which is already a $3 billion market. So some color on the market potential will be helpful. And secondly, say any other large market opportunities around eye care, similar to meibomian gland dysfunction? On the same topic, so the product has been launched in Europe, but from what we see, it seems to be not tracking well commercially any thoughts around that? Thanks.

Joe Papa

Analyst · Barclays. Please go ahead.

Sure. Well, first and foremost we are very, very excited about the NOV03 data and the market potential. And once again if others may not have had a chance to see the data, but the Phase 3 endpoint data, both in corneal staining and ocular dryness is statistically very significant and the time point we did both the 57-day and then also a 15-day look, and we had statistically significant results in both 15-days and 57-days. We think that timing is a real important thing for patients who have dry eye. Number two, as you said, it’s a big market. We know in the United States alone 16 million, 17 million Americans who have this problem of dry eye disease by having a product that could potentially, if we get a second Phase 3 trial that confirms this data show that the product works with that kind of speed and has that kind of level of effectiveness and the side effect profile, very similar to the placebo. We think that’s a really exciting opportunity. Our view on what we did in the United States was to take it through the prescription pathway, so that we can make sure that we had the appropriate data and be able to share that data versus the alternative products out there. We think it’s really exciting. And most importantly, the data that shows the quick speed of action for this product relative to other products out there in the marketplace. So we’re excited. We’ll see what happens with that second Phase 3 trial, but we think it’s very positive happening. We think the additional claims we will have though to be clear on the Rx side is going to help differentiate it from the product that’s currently being utilized in Europe, because we have some very significant comparative, certainly timing claims. I’ll say it that way timing claims. On the other questions that I didn’t mention it, on the previous question, but I will say in addition to having the NOV03 data, we also are working with a partner that just filed or re-filed XIPERE yesterday for – we think that’s another good opportunity for us in macular edema associated with uveitis. Uveitis causes I think up to about 30,000 new cases of blindness in the U.S., so we think that’s another good opportunity. And importantly we’re also looking at a product for dry AMD. So that’s another opportunity for us. And the final one of course is what we’re looking at with Eyenovia for myopia and those we think give the overall Bausch & Lomb prescription business a really good number of short term goal for the future.

Balaji Prasad

Analyst · Barclays. Please go ahead.

Thanks, Joe.

Joe Papa

Analyst · Barclays. Please go ahead.

Operator, let’s take the next question, please.

Operator

Operator

The next question – just one moment, the next question comes from Umer Raffat with Evercore. Please go ahead.

Umer Raffat

Analyst · Evercore. Please go ahead.

Hi, thanks so much for taking my question. I have three quick ones, if I may. Perhaps, first Paul and Joe, if you could give us a sense for what the leadership team looks like or where your head is at for the remain co, I think that’ll be very helpful? Secondly, on your S1P1, which is perhaps one of the more important programs on the Salix side, I saw your new trials in mild-to-moderate patients and many of your S1P1 competitors from Celgene, Bristol to Arena, et cetera, all the companies don’t necessarily think of mild as an opportunity for S1P1, but I also realize you’ve been in that market with the presales. I was just very curious what feedback you heard from Salix folks on the possibility of sort of a pre-sell for S1P1 co-formulation or something along those lines. And then finally just a quick follow-up on the last question on NOV03, do you agree it’s an artificial tear or are you thinking of it more as a RESTASIS or Xiidra? And could you remind us what’s the largest artificial tears Rx product in the marketplace in the U.S. right now?

Joe Papa

Analyst · Evercore. Please go ahead.

Let me try to comment and take them in the order you gave them to me, Bausch Pharma leadership. What are we thinking about, well, with as I said the board’s view on this is that we want to create two great companies that pure play eye health business as well as the diversified pharma business of being called Bausch Pharma until we rebrand. What our view is that we’re looking at internal and external candidates for that leadership position of the Bausch Pharma. Our expectation is that process is going to take another couple of months and we’ll have some additional announcements in due course. But our view is that’s something that will build on the existing Bausch Healthcare team. In other words, already have Bausch Healthcare team in place, we’ll build on that and as we’re trying to select the two different business leadership, both in the Bausch and Lomb side as well as in the Bausch Pharma side. On that second question you have relative to the S1P, you’re correct. We did look at mild-to-moderate and how we targeting this population. The team has looked at these patients and the needs in this patients and how they work, where is this market going to be in the next five-years, 10-years and that is the reason we went after the mild-to-moderate population, I 100% understand where the market is today. But we believe that this market is going to be targeted differently in five years and 10 years. And we put together a new team of individuals that look at this from a portfolio point of view of what the future will hold, where we want to go with this opportunity. Our view is that based on the discussions, we’ve had a number of key opinion leaders is…

Operator

Operator

Thank you, sir. And that will come from David Steinberg with Jefferies. Please go ahead.

David Steinberg

Analyst

Thanks. I have two questions. First, just the third question is aligned on NOV03 just because the data was so intriguing. Joe you’ve highlighted a number of times the onset. So I assume you’re contrasting it with Allergan’s Restasis, which despite slow onset and stinging still. I think peak sales were about $1.5 billion. And so my question is, given that this area has been a graveyard and so many companies have tried to develop dry disease products and so many has failed, and there are only two on the market. And with the first study seemingly showing comparative onset versus the market leader, and then the market leader going generic likely in the coming months or years, how big a product do you see this being a peak when you include the U.S. and Europe? And do you view it mostly as monotherapy or would you see it being used in conjunction with some of the other leading products like Xiidra? And then my second question is on TRULANCE, and you noted that since you acquired the product, the market shares doubled and it’s growing much faster than the market. But I was just curious, in the first quarter 21% growth is good, but last year in the first half of the year growth was over 50% and then the second half of the year growth was 43%, 44%. So I’m just curious is the 21% first quarter growth, sort of a one-time drop-off. And if so, what might’ve caused that and do you see growth accelerating throughout the year, getting closer to growth rates you showed on a quarterly basis last year. Thanks.

Joe Papa

Analyst

Great questions. I’m going to try to make sure I get all the NOV03 comments that you asked. First and foremost I’m not going to comment specifically about this bigger product it could be, but I do think it compares very favorably to other drugs that are out there currently being used for treating dry eye disease. I think relative to both the – we’ll share more about the side effect profile, but it’s a very clean profile. We shared the timing advantages that we at least see in this. And we showed at least initially the first Phase 3 trial, the ability to show both the signs and symptoms of dry eye disease specific to patients who have meibomian gland dysfunction. We think that combination is a very winning combination and will help us to compare very favorably to any type of drug in the category, which as you stated are certainly Restasis over $1 billion, I think Xiidra is up to that $500 million plus range already. So these are big drugs, big opportunities. And unfortunately it’s a real problem for 16 million Americans and more in Kansas. So we look forward to getting that second trial and having the data to share with you in terms of the results for these patients. On the question of monotherapy or with other products, I think the answer is probably going to be, it could be used for both, especially because it works so quickly. Some of these other drugs that increase tear production take a longer time. And if we can work quickly, have a relatively limited adverse event profile or similar to a placebo, we think that’s going to be an opportunity to add to patients who may be on therapy, but not getting sufficient relief from existing…

Joe Papa

Analyst

Operator, that concludes our call today, I want to thank everyone for joining us and have a great day everyone.

Operator

Operator

The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today’s presentation. You may now disconnect.