J. Pearson
Analyst · Piper Jaffray
Yes, well, I think the best way we can point to how do we get the synergies but still sort of retain the sales forces and DTCs is maybe I can reflect back on B+L, where we kept 100% of the sales forces in the U.S. and many of the sales representatives throughout the world for B+L. So today, we have more sales reps than we did when we bought B+L in terms of the B+L businesses. And we also -- in that case, we, for many of the products, Ocuvite for example, they have a DTC program that initially that we thought we were going to reduce. We actually kept it. Joe Gordon, who I've talked about earlier, convinced us it had high ROI. He was absolutely right. We kept that, and we found cost in other areas. So -- but net-net, on B+L, we're -- we said we'd save $800 million. We're on track to save $900 million, but we've kept the sales force, the commercial, the customer-facing. I think that a little bit of mystery here is there's so much money spent in most pharmaceutical companies in noncustomer-facing activities. And that's sort of the little secret in the industry, and that's why we're able to get these savings. In terms of established products, we've -- it depends on what the established products are. What we're not interested is getting sort of generic products in the U.S. and in Western Europe sort of nongrowing or products about to hit a patent cliff and geographies that -- with huge -- like in the United States, when things go off-patent, you lose most of the sales. So if we can get established products in emerging markets, we love those businesses, and we'd be a very interested buyer. If there was established products under-marketed, consumer DTC products in some of these other markets, we'd love to take a look at that, so it all depends. In our minds, established products depends on what the established products are and where in the world they're being sold.