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BGC Group, Inc (BGC)

Q1 2018 Earnings Call· Thu, May 3, 2018

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Operator

Operator

Welcome to the BGC Partners Inc. First Quarter 2018 Earnings Conference Call. My name is Candice and I will be your operator for today’s call. [Operator Instructions] Please note that this conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Ujjal Basu Roy. Mr. Roy, you may begin.

Ujjal Basu Roy

Analyst

Good morning. We issued BGC’s first quarter 2018 financial results press release and a presentation summarizing these this morning. You can find these at ir.bgcpartners.com. You can also find details about Newmark Group, Inc.’s separate conference call scheduled for today right after BGC’s as well as Newmark’s financial results press release and presentation at ir.ngkf.com. Unless otherwise stated, the results provided on today’s call compare only the first quarter of 2018 with the year earlier period. We will be referring to our consolidated results on this call only on an adjusted earnings basis unless otherwise stated. We may also refer to adjusted EBITDA. Please see today’s press release of full year financial results and for results under generally accepted accounting principles, or GAAP. Please also see the sections in the back of today’s press release for the complete definitions of any such non-GAAP terms; reconciliation of these items to the corresponding GAAP results and how, when and why management uses them. For the purposes of today’s call, all the company’s fully electronic businesses are referred to as FENICS. These offerings include the Financial Services segments, fully electronic brokerage products as well as the offerings in market data, software solutions and post-trade services. Also on today’s call, Newmark is synonymous with our Real State Services segment, unless specifically referred to as Newmark standalone, in which case it refers to the results of Newmark Group Inc. BGC’s financial results have been recast into the results of Berkeley Point for all periods discussed in today’s call, because the transactions involve the reorganization of entities under common control. As we had previously announced beginning with this quarter, the consolidated company and we will recognize the receipt of NASDAQ earn-out payments when earned in the third quarter for adjusted earnings instead of prorating over the…

Howard Lutnick

Analyst · Sandler O'Neill. Sir, you may begin

Thank you, Ujjal. Good morning, everyone and thank you for joining us for our first quarter 2018 conference call. With me today are BGC’s President, Shaun Lynn; our Chief Operating Officer, Shaun Windeatt; and Steve McMurray, our Chief Financial Officer. Revenues from our Financial Services business were up by more than 17%, Newmark’s revenues grew by more than 29%, BGC’s consolidated revenues grew by 22% to a quarterly record of $957 million, while post-tax earnings per share were up by 39% to $0.32. I am also pleased to report that our Board declared an $0.18 qualified dividend for the first quarter, which is consistent with our quarterly dividend last year. At yesterday’s closing stock price, this translates into a 5.4% annualized yield. The board expects to maintain its quarterly dividend for the remainder of the year. And with that, I will now turn the call over to Shaun.

Shaun Lynn

Analyst · Sandler O'Neill. Sir, you may begin

Thank you, Howard and good morning everyone. Our overall revenues for Financial Services increased by 17.1% to $516.6 million to the quarter. Brokerage revenues increased across all of our Financial Services asset classes led by 18% growth from our rates business and 24% improvement in foreign exchange brokerage and a 13% growth from met energy and commodities business. More than half of the 29% growth generated from equities, insurance and other asset classes was organic and the remainder due to the acquisition of Besso which closed at the end of February last year urging all of our growth generated by Financial Services was organic. We benefited from a combination of better macroeconomic conditions, increased volatility in certain asset classes and gains in market share across our businesses. Over the past few years, we have grown our Financial Services earnings despite a low volatility and low interest rate environment. As market show signs of improvement, we believe that we are in a strong position to increase our revenues and profits. Our FENICS business also generated strong revenue growth as we continue to invest in technology and covert our voice and hybrid desks to more profitable, fully electronic trading. FENICS revenues from rates and credit improved by double-digit percentage year-on-year, while data, software, and post-trade revenues were up by 15%. All else being equal as FENICS revenues become a larger portion of our Financial Services results we expect overall profitability to improve. While we analyze how to optimally configure our voice hybrid and fully electronic businesses, BGC will continue to provide total FENICS revenues. Over time, the company expects FENICS to achieve adjusted earnings margins of 50% before corporate items and intends to provide more detailed information next year. FENICS is not a separate company, it is not a segment, it’s not even a separate broker dealer, but all of this is current. We have been thoughtful in examining exactly how – exactly this and how best to present our business, how best to internally structure and configure our high margin FENICS business. Moving on to segment profitability, our overall Financial Services pre-tax earnings were up by 31% to $130 million and margin expansion was due largely to the 19% year-on-year increase in revenue per producer for the first quarter of 2018 in Financial Services. Our front office productivity has improved year-on-year for five quarters in a row. With respect to our results from Real Estate Services revenues from Newmark as a standalone company increased by 29% year-on-year in the quarter to $430 million, while pre-tax adjusted earnings increased by 83% to $64 million. Please see Newmark’s press release from earlier today for more details. With that, I am now happy to turn the call over to Steve.

Steve McMurray

Analyst

Thank you, Shaun and hello everyone. BGC generated consolidated quarterly revenues of $956.6 million, up 23.1%. While revenues from the Americas were up by 23.4%, revenues from Europe, Middle East and Africa were up by 22%, while Asia-Pacific revenues increased by 13%. With expense respect to expenses, compensation increased by 16.1%, while compensation ratio improved by 290 basis points to 55.8% due to the mix of revenues by geography and product. BGC’s consolidated non-compensation expenses, increased by 29.6% to $234.7 million with more than a third of the increase relates to transfer expenses from the implementation of ASC 606. As a percentage of our revenue, while non-compensation expenses were 24.5% versus 23.1% in the year ago period. Our overall expenses were $768.2 million versus $640.6 million. Our pre-tax earnings before non-controlling interest in subsidiaries and taxes were up by 54.8% to $184.7 million. Our tax rate adjusted earnings was 11.6%, which reflects our estimated full year 2018 rates. In the first quarter of last year, our non-GAAP tax rate is 13.8%. While tax rates declined due to the recently enacted U.S. tax codes, although this is partially offset by higher pre-tax earnings and the geographical mix of our income. Until the proposed spin-off of Newmark, non-controlling interest will reflect the allocation of income to Newmark’s public shareholders and pro rate ownership of certain shares and/or units of BGC and Newmark. These post-tax earnings were up by 49.7% to $154.3 million. Our post-tax earnings per share were up by 39.1% to $0.32. BGC’s fully diluted weighted average share count was $478.9 million for both adjusted earnings and GAAP. As previously reported from December 19, 2017 through March 6, 2018, BGC sold 19.4 million newly issued Class A common shares net proceeds of $270.9 million. $242 million of these gross proceeds were…

Howard Lutnick

Analyst · Sandler O'Neill. Sir, you may begin

Thank you, Steve. Our outlook for the second quarter of 2018 compared with the second quarter of last year is as follows. We expect to generate revenues of between $890 million and $940 million, which is up between 5% and 11% compared with $849 million. We anticipate pre-tax earnings to be in the range of $145 million to $165 million, up 7% to 22% as compared with $135 million last year. We anticipate our consolidated adjusted earnings tax rate to be in the range of approximately 11% to 12% for the second quarter and full year 2018 and Newmark’s standalone tax rate is expected to be between 12% and 14%. Additionally, we expect to update our guidance by the end of the quarter. Barry and I will be hosting Newmark’s earnings call at 11 a.m., so please hold your detailed real estate services questions until then. With that, operator, we would now like to open the call for questions.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Rich Repetto from Sandler O'Neill. Sir, you may begin.

Rich Repetto

Analyst · Sandler O'Neill. Sir, you may begin

Yes, hi, Howard. I guess, the first question is on the FENICS, I guess putting out the margins as you have prior. And I guess you said that you – we are evaluating evaluate how you want to present it like I am trying to understand why the presentation from prior, why wasn’t that adequate to continue or are you investing more or trying to understand not having the expenses from FENICS?

Howard Lutnick

Analyst · Sandler O'Neill. Sir, you may begin

Well, I think, Shaun is sort of trying to save best, which is FENICS is not a separate company, it’s not a segment, it’s not even a separate broker-dealer, but that’s just the way it is now. So, as we examine how best to present the business, right, we are going to consider how best until we structure it and configure it and that might change things. So we would rather be thoughtful and examine it. We are going to continue to put out the revenues. We have told you we still expect the 50% margin before corporate items and nothing other than that. I mean, this is just us being thoughtful to make sure we are maximizing the value of our high margin business.

Rich Repetto

Analyst · Sandler O'Neill. Sir, you may begin

So, is it fair to say the level of investment hasn’t accelerated or decelerated materially from the last few quarters relative to the revenue size I guess?

Howard Lutnick

Analyst · Sandler O'Neill. Sir, you may begin

That would be right. That is correct with respect to the first quarter for sure.

Rich Repetto

Analyst · Sandler O'Neill. Sir, you may begin

Okay. And then I think we have asked this and maybe we will get more on the Analyst Day, but understanding whether there is other – there is certain platform that have been performing better than others and I think everybody as well as you look and seeing what you have done with other platforms like eSpeed etcetera, Trayport. Other – when you say it is part of BGCP, are there specific platforms that are doing exceptionally well, I know you called out certain asset classes in FENICS?

Shaun Lynn

Analyst · Sandler O'Neill. Sir, you may begin

Hi, Rich, it’s Shaun. Yes, there are certain platforms within the group that is being exceptionally well this quarter, which as you say which we highlighted some areas and platforms. The actual platform across the board is doing well. We have had new functionality, but I don’t want to call that any certain specific area apart from the broad way we have actually represented it in the remarks.

Rich Repetto

Analyst · Sandler O'Neill. Sir, you may begin

Okay. And I guess one other question when a new share is issued by BGCP to our employees for whatever reason now they continue to get the same rights to Newmark shares and I guess like you said in the release it would have been the conversion would be 0.4702 at the end of the quarter, but if a share was issued to an employer or a unit was issued to an employee say today, but he would still get that same ownership of Newmark?

Howard Lutnick

Analyst · Sandler O'Neill. Sir, you may begin

No. So, the way it works now is for financial service employee, they participate in the portion of the business that is Financial Services and the Newmark employees participate in the financial outcomes of the business of Newmark. So, they are literally the employees of both since the spin-off of Newmark are separated vis-à-vis the employees. And then with respect to our share count, if you issued the math of one and the other you put them together and it equals a share for the public. So, that’s basically how it works. So that way the Newmark employees are really receiving Newmark and the BGC financial service people are receiving financial services, but when you add them together of course it adds up to BGC and the public Newmark.

Rich Repetto

Analyst · Sandler O'Neill. Sir, you may begin

Okay, alright. That’s all I have. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Patrick O’Shaughnessy from Raymond James have a question online. Patrick O’Shaughnessy: Hey, good morning guys. So first the question on the Financial Services business obviously pretty strong results for you guys in the quarter of pretty strong results from the big banks reported sales and trading revenues, I think we have typical seasonality trends so far in April, but how sustainable – do you feel like something has kind of structurally changed its higher volatility that this business is probably looking up on a sustainable basis?

Shaun Lynn

Analyst · Sandler O'Neill. Sir, you may begin

Hi, Patrick, it’s Shaun. We feel much happier, there is a balancing aspect. We are – we have had a reasonable fourth quarter through its first quarter and as we have said in the described remarks, where we are currently, there is a better feeling in the marketplace. Your volatility is better. There is much more activity. We are hopeful that this is going to continue our way through the year of course and going forward and then we turn the corner. And that feels good it feels that is the case. Patrick O’Shaughnessy: Great, thanks. And then you guys touched on the credit watch that’s on BGC Partners right now and also there is one on the Canter parent, can you provide an update on where you think you stand in terms of resolving the credit was at both levels?

Howard Lutnick

Analyst · Sandler O'Neill. Sir, you may begin

We remain optimistic as we discussed the credit metrics for BGC have all improved. And we are optimistic that this will be resolved in a positive way within this quarter. Patrick O’Shaughnessy: And you feel the same at the Cantor level as well?

Howard Lutnick

Analyst · Sandler O'Neill. Sir, you may begin

We do. Patrick O’Shaughnessy: Okay, great. Thank you. And then the question, it’s been a few quarters since you kind of entered the insurance brokerage space, what are your current thoughts on that landscape and might there be more deals in the pipeline for you in that vertical?

Shaun Lynn

Analyst · Sandler O'Neill. Sir, you may begin

We expect I would say it’s over a year now as we go by sell and we have had some quite organic growth, I think there are some good opportunities to high quality stuff. But there are also acquisition opportunities there which we have been looking at, so it’s a good marketplace. So I think it’s better than last year. I think it is, I think, our name is out there now. We have a very different offering I think compared to the traditional insurance landscape and a very different company, the way we look at things. As we have always said we see it as pure brokerage and we think we are very good at sort of running the brokerage company. Patrick O’Shaughnessy: Okay. And then last one for me, obviously with the CME next deal that was talked about during the quarter, I think maybe a couple of potential ramifications for you guys, so one is with BrokerTec, certainly it’s the dominant venue for on-the-run U.S. treasuries right now, do you think that there could potentially be some disruption here that lets you guys get your foot back in the door on that front with your FENICS UST product. And then I guess the second part is I think that deal also highlighted the value of Nexus post trade processing abilities and kind of where do you guys think you currently stand with post trade processing?

Howard Lutnick

Analyst · Sandler O'Neill. Sir, you may begin

So I will answer the first part and I will have Shaun answer the second. The macroeconomic environment for us with the next deal going for CME definitely puts more focus on our business and the feeling of the big market participants, the big banks, how comfortable they are with having monopolistic futures on a such a huge position of cash they may feel that they would like some alternatives and so I think that does put us in a better life and does give us opportunity to grow going forward. So I like the model I think it’s a smart transaction for the CME, but I think it also improves the, let’s call it, the base economic framework for us on which to operate. People are much happy to see us, much more happy to talk to us and I think the opportunity for us is better. And then with respect to post-trade I will hand it off to Shaun.

Shaun Lynn

Analyst · Sandler O'Neill. Sir, you may begin

So, because the post-trade, yes of course, it’s a very, very exciting landscape, Basel III has us enormously in that respect and with the constraints that are put on the major record banks, they are looking for solutions that are going to help them with regards to their collateral. We are the new entrant on the landscape. We are growing our market share and coming up with new innovations all the time. And we are very excited and confident that we are going to build a significant business in that silo. Patrick O’Shaughnessy: Great. Thank you very much.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] I am showing a follow-up from Richard Repetto. Sir you may begin.

Rich Repetto

Analyst · Sandler O'Neill. Sir, you may begin

Yes, can you hear me? So, Howard, a follow-up while I could. With the trading of U.S. treasuries on a platform that I don’t know how well they are going to connect them to the treasury futures, but do you see this as any that part of it is any threat to the business or a trend where some of the spot products will trade along with the features, is there anything in the past that would point to that that could be effective way to sort of bring together platforms or anything like that?

Howard Lutnick

Analyst · Sandler O'Neill. Sir, you may begin

The CME has tremendous market share in futures, total market share in features and if they can tie that and leverage that together that is very strong competitor. And so they have a very strong position and very strong competitor. So, I think they will be able to do interesting things, front office, back office connectivity or all sorts of very positive things for their marketplace. I think that will also open an area of concern for the banks who consider that and don’t appreciate the level of advice they will have around themselves and therefore I think that will open up an opportunity for us and maybe have them listen more closely, pay closer attention to our offering and hopefully support our business, which is really about to launch in the coming months. So, we are – our business is in the testing phase now broadly and we hope in the coming months that we will go live and fully live and we are excited about the opportunity that the CME and BrokerTec together are an extraordinary competitor.

Rich Repetto

Analyst · Sandler O'Neill. Sir, you may begin

And I guess one last thing the back to FedEx, as you invest there, can you talk about the areas of growth that where you are investing and what we could expect to see how you are trying to grow FedEx by funding certain areas by putting more capital in certain areas?

Howard Lutnick

Analyst · Sandler O'Neill. Sir, you may begin

Rich, we are investing a cost of both from pr-trade/post-trade market data analytics, fully electronic hybrid, we have continued to invest we have said consistently we invest our $150 million on average a year. So from that perspective, we are just continuing to invest.

Rich Repetto

Analyst · Sandler O'Neill. Sir, you may begin

Got it. Okay, thank you very much.

Operator

Operator

Okay. I have a question from Michael Eisenberg with RPIA [ph]. Sir, you may begin.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Good morning. Thank you for the call and congratulations on a strong quarter. Just circling back on the rating question that was asked earlier by Patrick, what gives you confidence that, that will be resolved this quarter. Obviously, it’s an important statistic to have that IG rating for both Cantor and BGC noting that the rating agencies are linking BGC to Cantor and Cantor’s rating, what gives you that confidence, is it the equity raise that you have done, is that enough the rating agencies are pointing to specific targets in terms of equity to assets at Cantor as well as cash flow leverage metrics at BGC. Can you give little bit more specifics on that to give comfort?

Howard Lutnick

Analyst · Sandler O'Neill. Sir, you may begin

Sure. So I said we are optimistic, but I think we deserve to be investment grade based on the existing standards that are out there. We know the standards of the rating agencies and we have sought to meet them. You have seen our debt go down you have seen all of our metrics go up across the board. So, I think we have shown improved credit profile and improved credit metrics and we are optimistic that those will resolve the credit watch positively for both BGC and Cantor.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

And you are, I mean, presumably you are in dialogue with them and the reason I ask is that there was presumption that the certain amount of capital would be raised around the IPO to de-lever and there was less capital raised as part of the IPO. They have then subsequently reiterated that they want more capital whether it be through asset sales or equity being raised presumably you are in contact with them to ensure that your confidence in your meeting the rating profile and the metrics are up to speed with what they would like, because the rating agencies make fairly dogmatic and academic and how we look at things as opposed to commercial, which acknowledge what you are saying. I am not diminishing what you are saying vis-à-vis the improved capital and the way that you run your businesses in terms of conservative perspective, but the rating agencies obviously can be quite academic and dogmatic and how they look at metrics and just that is why I am asking?

Howard Lutnick

Analyst · Sandler O'Neill. Sir, you may begin

So, we are of course in dialogue with them. I would point out that Newmark did issue 16.6 million more units and did raise especially the amount of money they had set out in their IPO in distributing in additional fashion which is BGC raised the money through its equity issuance, its own – 90% owned subsidiaries have bought the shares, so the fact is from an overall perspective – from an overall credit perspective Newmark was able to raise the capital and execute the plan just albeit a couple of months later, but the same plan was executed. So I think we are in dialogue to them and as I have said we deserve to be investment grade based on the existing standards. We know those standards and we leave to S&P and Fitch their own determination. But I think we have done everything that we told them we would do and they expected us to do and therefore we are optimistic that this will be resolved in a positive way sometime this quarter.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Thank you. It’s very helpful. I appreciate that.

Operator

Operator

We have no further questions at this time.

Howard Lutnick

Analyst · Sandler O'Neill. Sir, you may begin

Thank you all for joining us today. And we look forward to updating you towards the end of the quarter and speaking to you again next quarter. Have an excellent day everyone.