Wyatt Hartley
Analyst · National Bank Financial.
Yes, thanks for the question, Rupert. In terms of - I'll start with the operating costs. I think what we would say on that front is that we, for a number of years, have identified operating cost savings across our business. As an example, in Colombia, where post privatization from the government, we've been executing on a program to reduce the cost in that business as an example, where we are now operating a centralized operating system out of Colombia, which has driven cost savings. We've been reducing the number of contractors, et cetera. So cost savings continue to be an area where we think we can drive incremental value. We did $12 million on an annualized basis this year. We'll probably be a bit short of that number in 2020, but not materially. And from a financing perspective, what I would say is, really, the opportunity on the financing perspective is less about lowering our cost of borrowing, just because we have fixed rate debt in place right now so the cost of refinancing and the pain they cause would create - would offset the impact of a reduction in the rates. But fundamentally, where from a refinancing perspective, where we really have an opportunity, it has to do with the funding plan and we would have spoken about where - whether it's in Brazil, where we effectively have an unlevered business, given where the lending markets in that country are, we think we can generate a lot of upfinancings there on an investment-grade basis or on a number of our hydros as they come for refinancing. Right now, the post PPA cash flows aren't financed, so that creates an opportunity for us to create incremental upfinancing again at an invest-grade basis. So really, our focus there is, over the next five years to generate around $1 billion from those type of activities. We may generate some cost savings here and there. But for us, the focus is more about extending maturities and raising that incremental capital to fund our growth.