Farouq Tuweiq
President and CEO
Yeah, no, I appreciate that. It's an interesting question, right? If we look at our manufacturing footprint today, so putting M&A aside or, I don't know, we have so much growth, we need a new factory. Putting that aside, but we look at our footprint today, capacity is not an issue. The CapEx, and I think this is one of the unique strengths of Bel Fuse, is we're generally a low volume, medium volume, high mix, medium mix business. A lot of our business doesn't necessarily lend itself for over-automation, where you hit a button, it comes out on the other end, right? So we want to work with our customers on designing, on modifying, on customizing, really trying to drive complexity. We definitely have some commodity stuff, right? For sure, because we think maybe about some of the fuse business. Generally, most of our business is kind of let's call in the modified standard or customized type approach. So because of that, you will hit a limitation and you will not get the ROI on a certain level of automations. I think our team, I would suggest, is probably one of the best at trying to find automation for the environments that we operate in. This is really kind of true, especially on the power side of the business. So, given the nature of our business, I think that's a fair comment there, Asiya, is if you look at our CapEx, maybe as a percentage of revenue, and I can see where the genesis of that question, but our revenue is also different. Therefore, I think, not sure that's a very valid metric. I will tell you, we don't have a problem spending on CapEx, especially as we're seeing growth coming in and where there's opportunity, we'll do it. We just are not going to artificially do it for the sake of automation. Also, customers are a key part of that, right? As we think about what will the customers need and do they want that or not want that. I think, just as a reminder for everybody, when we look at our power business as an example, right, across the portfolio, which is over 50% of the business today, the materials are the biggest cost in that bill of materials, right? As we think about overhead and labor, it's really the procurement is the key. So today, we like our CapEx. Sure, there's always things you can spend money on, but we're not holding back money on investment, that's for sure. The other thing keeping in mind, to what I just said earlier, which is what you're talking about, is resource allocation. I think our factories are generally designated to make something. So our power factories largely are making power components. Connector factories are making connectors, right? Or magnetic factories are making the magnetics. So when we think about factory resource allocation, we're thinking within that factory, where do we spend our time and energy? So it's not, let's move power from one facility to the other, right? It's a very different product and a complicated one. So we think about efficiency, productivity, quality over automation, right? That's what we're selling. I think we're at a good level in terms of CapEx, and I think we've stepped it up in the last few years for sure.