Peter Altman
Analyst · Alliance Global Partners. Please go ahead.
Well, good questions, Laura. Appreciate you being on the call. So the answers, I have easy answers, but I’ll give you more colors. So BCDA-02 we’re not going to engage the FDA on changing the trial design until we complete the initial role in cohort, which is imminent. And that trial design is going to involve substantial, structural changes in the inclusion, exclusion as well as the primary endpoint. This trial, I guess, I would say for folks on the call is substantially equivalent to the trial that Baxter Healthcare advanced in this indication focused solely on CD34 cells and everybody criticized Baxter Healthcare for how long the trial took for them to enroll 90 patients. And then they ultimately just stopped the trial and walked away from it even though they had great efficacy signals that ultimately were published. We now understand the difficulties Baxter was happening. And so unlike Baxter Healthcare walking away from it, we’re going to drill into it and solve it. And we’re eminently confident that we can do that because we’re working with some of the world experts in this space. So that’s ongoing working with our KOLs and physicians and pursuing the realm of what’s possible. And my sense today is, we’re going to go after an endpoint that’s primarily image and self-assessment driven i.e., probably using PET and using, Seattle Angina Questionnaire versus using the cardiopulmonary exercise time [ph]. And the good thing for investors is eliminating the cardiopulmonary exercise time criteria which we may still measure at baseline and follow up, but making it less important will greatly reduce the cost of this trial. And that’s another nice advantage. So the trial will go faster. We’ll have data that’s more objective for physicians and, we expect that on every front it will be advantageous to us. So that’s on the, the BCDA-02. On BCDA-04, the dynamic there is really easy. That’s a quick supplement to the agency. And I do not expect any agency pushback whatsoever. Essentially when we launched that program, we were going after patients who had acute respiratory distress syndrome secondary to having COVID. Since then, as we all know, there’s not a whole lot of patients with COVID who were winding up on ventilator with acute respiratory distress syndrome. And so by eliminating the requirement to have, had COVID before we’ll be going after a classic ARDS population. We’re also awaiting, there’s a very large NIH study coming out shortly in this space being led by the University of California and San Francisco. And so as we make that supplement, we’re also awaiting that data. So just because of bandwidth issues, we haven’t pulled the trigger on that modification, but that’s a very easy modification to the trial for the agency. And I’d be literally shocked if there was any concerns on the agency’s part. We just haven’t gotten around to submitting it in part because we see that program as after the BCDA-03 trial getting started.