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Barings BDC, Inc. (BBDC)

Q4 2024 Earnings Call· Fri, Feb 21, 2025

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Operator

Operator

Good day, everyone. At this time, I would like to welcome you to the Barings BDC, Inc. conference call for the quarter ended and year ended December 31, 2024. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Today's call is being recorded and a replay will be available two hours after the conclusion of the call on the company's website at www.baringsbdc.com under the Investor Relations section. At this time, I'll turn the call over to Joe Mazzoli of Investor Relations for Barings BDC, Inc. Go ahead, Joe.

Joe Mazzoli

Management

Good morning and thank you for joining the call. Please note that this call may contain forward-looking statements that include statements regarding the company's goals, beliefs, strategies, future operating results, and cash flows. Although the company believes these statements are reasonable, actual results could differ materially from those projected in forward-looking statements. These statements are based on various underlying assumptions and are subject to numerous uncertainties and risks, including those disclosed under the sections titled Risk Factors and Forward-Looking Statements in the company's quarterly report on Form 10-Q for the quarter ended December 31, 2024, as filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Barings BDC, Inc. undertakes no obligation to update or revise any forward-looking statements unless required by law. I will now turn the call over to Eric Lloyd, Chief Executive Officer of Barings BDC, Inc.

Eric Lloyd

Management

Thanks, Joe. Good morning, everyone. We appreciate you joining us for today's call. Please note that throughout today's call, we will be referring to our fourth quarter 2024 earnings presentation that is posted on the investor relations section of our website. On the call today, I'm joined by Barings BDC, Inc.'s President, Matt Freund, Chief Financial Officer, Elizabeth Murray, and Barings' Head of Global Private Finance and BBDC Portfolio Manager, Bryan High. In the fourth quarter, BBDC delivered another strong and consistent set of results, fueled by best-in-class credit performance and the strength and stability of our franchise. Consistent with broader industry trends, lending activity during the first three quarters of 2024 was somewhat muted. During the fourth quarter, we experienced a meaningful uptick in deployment, both as part of add-on transactions within the existing portfolio and for new buyouts by a number of our long-standing sponsor clients. The result of this activity produced strong originations during the period that we are proud of. Strong deployment combined with a benign credit environment and our focus on the top of the capital structure investments in the middle market served our investors well. Our focus on the core of the middle market is reflective of our lower leverage levels and more attractive risk-adjusted returns, which is why we find this to be the best segment of the market for BBDC and our shareholders. Consistent with how we have defined our strategy in past discussions, our portfolio strategy is outlined in greater detail on Slide 5, and we continue to successfully invest throughout the market to deliver compelling returns to our shareholders. As we reflect on the full year 2024, the performance of BBDC has been strong. Total shareholder return during 2024 exceeded 24% and was top quartile among publicly traded peers. These…

Matt Freund

Management

Thanks, Eric. BBDC is managed by Barings LLC, a credit-focused asset manager with over $420 billion of assets under management. The bulk of the portfolio is sourced from the global private finance team, an organization with more than 100 investment professionals located around the globe providing financing solutions to high-quality, market-leading middle-market companies sponsored by top-tier private equity firms. BBDC deployed $298 million of capital in the quarter, offset by $222 million of sales and repayments, resulting in net sales and deployment of $76 million, reflecting one of the most active deployment quarters in recent history. Repayments during the quarter included various non-core positions acquired with Sierra Income's legacy portfolio. As Eric noted, we are executing on the strategy that we have been telegraphing for the past 24 months, simplifying the portfolio and selectively investing in what we believe are the most compelling middle-market direct lending opportunities in the market. During our prior call, we noted that we had started seeing green shoots related to new deployment opportunities. Our growth in net originations during the quarter validated that anticipation. Originations activity was fueled both by add-on transactions as well as new issuer financing. The mix of our funding did skew somewhat towards add-on activity at a higher rate than historical averages, which we believe was largely reflective of industry results during the period for scaled asset managers as Barings. As we evaluate forward-looking activity into the balance of 2025, we remain cautious as Eric noted. Recall that the average transaction timeline from initial inbound activity to ultimate closed transactions typically ranges from three to six months. Initial inbound transactions initially increased following the November elections. As we closed 2024, the volume of inbound activity started to recede. The new landscape appears primed to support M&A activity in 2025, supported by…

Elizabeth Murray

Management

Thanks, Matt. On Slide 15, you can see the full bridge of the NAV per share movement in the fourth quarter. NAV per share was $11.29 as of December 31, which is a decrease of 0.2% over the prior quarter and an increase of 0.1% year over year. Our net investment income exceeded the $0.26 per share dividend by $0.02 per share, or 8%. Net unrealized appreciation from investments, CSAs, and FX equaled $0.08 and was offset by net realized losses on the portfolio and FX of $0.13 per share. The net realized loss on the portfolio was predominantly due to the restructure of our investments in SECO, which is reclassed from unrealized depreciation. The valuation of the credit support agreements increased by fair value of the CSAs. The CSA increased from $32.2 million in the third quarter to $44.2 million as of December 31. During the fourth quarter, the Sierra portfolio had sales and repayments of approximately $12.5 million and had 23 positions remaining in the portfolio, down from 28 positions as of September 30. Year over year, we rotated out of approximately $100 million or 45% of the remaining Sierra portfolio in 2024. The fair value of the MVC CSA increased from $19 million to $19.2 million as of September 30, predominantly due to the rolling maturity of the contract for one quarter with four positions remaining. Our net investment income was $0.28 per share for the quarter or $0.30 per share on a pretax basis compared to $0.29 per share in the prior quarter and $0.31 per share for the fourth quarter of 2023. For the year, net investment income was $1.24 per share compared to $1.20 per share for 2023. Investment income in the quarter was primarily driven by dividends from joint venture and platform investments…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. We'll now be conducting a question and answer session. Participants using speaker equipment may be necessary to pick up your handset. Our first question today is coming from Finian O'Shea from Wells Fargo Securities. Your line is now live.

Finian O'Shea

Analyst

Hey, everyone. Good morning. I was looking at a name, 880, is another slight mark, but it's a sort of a partial or PIK non-accrual. And I was seeing if you could outline just the spirit of a PIK non-accrual and how that compares to the regular definition of something that you don't anticipate, you know, collection of full interest and principal for. Thank you.

Elizabeth Murray

Management

Yes. And thanks for the call. And the way we determine that is when we meet with the investment team, that was an investment that prior to us putting on PIK non-accrual, it paid its full cash, which I believe at the time was a 15% interest rate. And we underwrote it where it would pay, I believe, half of that. And so it is actually performing where we underwrote it. And so when it was determined that they were gonna start paying cash and they wanted to PIK a certain portion, we didn't believe that we would be able to recover the full value including the PIK, but we knew we could with the cash. So that's why we felt it was prudent to put it on PIK non-accrual, but it is performing now as it was underwritten. It just for a certain period of time was performing above where it was underwritten.

Finian O'Shea

Analyst

Okay. So it seems like you'll collect the regular principal, but not the PIK part of it?

Elizabeth Murray

Management

Correct. And they're paying the cash current, and we will collect the principal. Thanks.

Finian O'Shea

Analyst

Okay. That's helpful. Thank you. And what about the CSA marks? Can you run through how much of that was interest rate or timing related versus fundamental?

Matt Freund

Management

Yeah, Finian, good question. Overwhelmingly, it was directly related to the marks on Black Angus Steakhouse. And I'm sure you're reviewing the material, you'll see that there was a sequential quarter-on-quarter valuation mark associated with that position and a corresponding increase in the value of the CSA. There was, as you alluded to, impacts of interest rate and timing, but the bulk of the change quarter-on-quarter is gonna be associated with the Black Angus Steakhouse mark.

Finian O'Shea

Analyst

Okay. Great. That's all for me. Thanks so much.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is coming from Robert Dodd from Raymond James. Your line is now live.

Robert Dodd

Analyst

Hi. Congrats on the quarter and congrats on the continued portfolio rotation. That's 2024. What are you gonna do for us in 2025 on the portfolio rotation? So, I mean, just any thoughts on how you expect that to progress through this year, especially with uncertainty to the point on the M&A as you do notate portfolio in an active market and in an inactive one or slower one. I mean, any thoughts on how that might progress through the year? I mean, really good job so far.

Bryan High

Analyst

Hey, Robert. It's Bryan. A couple of thoughts, and then, obviously, Matt can chime in as well. But obviously, we're gonna continue to try to rotate out of the non-Barings names from the acquisitions with the focus on really trying to move the non-income producing assets to the best of our ability while also trying to maximize value so that we can get income-producing assets which will hopefully benefit from an ROE perspective. So that's kind of a goal of ours. Obviously, market timing is everything. To your point on the overall market, the good news is this is fully ramped and we're kind of within our leverage targets. And so if there's not a lot of deal flow coming in, there's typically not a lot of repayments at the same time, so it's relatively easy to manage from that perspective. That being said, as Matt alluded to in his comments, we do have a decent pipeline of new opportunities and expect to continue to originate consistent with our strategy previously.

Robert Dodd

Analyst

Thank you. On just kind of the comments about the uncertainty, you know, the economy, all the economic metrics that the overall economy look good right now. Obviously, tariffs are starting to be implemented, the cost-cutting, etc. I mean, so can you give us any kind of, like, where you have exposure to those things? I mean, you have some other transportation businesses. You had some more than earlier, but etc. I mean, a lot of services, obviously. So but, you know, how much of that, the services side is exposed to government spending? How much of that, the hard goods you're exposed to tariffs, any color you can give us there?

Matt Freund

Management

Yeah. So, look, we're pulling up the playbook from several years ago, kind of running these analyses on the portfolio. Fortunately for all of us, it's not the first time we've done it. We've done a kind of an initial, frankly, props to the team for proactively organizing some efforts around this analysis. Our preliminary indication is that somewhere between 60% and 75% of the portfolio will be unimpacted by regulatory uncertainty. And then I think that the balance is gonna be a sliding scale depending on exactly what the underlying issuer does and exactly where they are operating. It's obviously way too early to say in terms of where we're headed from a portfolio perspective. We do have, as I'm sure many managers do, we have our kind of our top hits in terms of where we think kind of the 15 issuers are that might be the most impacted and as you can imagine, we're staying in contact with them on a more regular basis. But certainly optimistic that, you know, well-managed businesses owned by relatively sophisticated private equity firms are gonna be in a position to modify their cost structure and adapt to a changing environment. You know, I think that perhaps equally as important is just the opportunity for net deployment on a go-forward basis. And that's where we've really seen a lot of uncertainty. You know, private equity firms we've talked to, early in 2025 listed a slate of probable sales with their portfolio companies, and I would venture to say that that has kind of shrunk into a trickle in terms of where people have their heads now from a sale process perspective. So it's just a broader theme around uncertainty, and we're obviously gonna keep our ear to the ground on both.

Robert Dodd

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Next question is coming from Casey Alexander from Compass Point. Your line is now live.

Casey Alexander

Analyst

Yes. I just want to ask, I'm maybe asking the same question in a different way. Given Matt, your comments regarding the uncertainty and the lack of kind of deal proposals. Is it fair to think actually, fee and other income had a pretty good quarter in the fourth quarter, but is it fair to think of fee and income as you look out across 2025 as likely to be flat to down as opposed to I think a lot of people were thinking it was gonna be up in 2025 because they thought it was gonna be very robust deal activity?

Matt Freund

Management

Yeah. It's a fair question, Casey. I wouldn't say that it's gonna be flat to down. I think that our current expectation is gonna be is gonna kind of be flat to flat. And the reason for that is just the broader maturity dynamics within the overall portfolio. And so while you may not see the OID acceleration associated with upfront fees, but I do think you'll see, here we are in February, so I forecast in the whole year. But what my gut tells me is that we're probably gonna see some more activity with respect to amendment fees, extension fees, those sorts of things. And so while you may lose from an OID acceleration perspective, you're probably going to make up from an amendment fee perspective. And that's my gut in terms of where we are. Of course, if M&A activity picks up, then the reverse will also be true. But with a kind of fully invested and seasoned portfolio, that's our operating base case right now.

Casey Alexander

Analyst

Well, I mean, while you're on the phone, you could take a crack at 2026 if you want to. So that fourth quarter number was a bit high. Was there a one-time or a single deal that contributed to a little bit higher fee and other income in the fourth quarter than we've seen in previous quarters?

Matt Freund

Management

Yeah. I would say that the answer to your question directly is yes. There was a transaction that did have a more substantive fee component to it in the fourth quarter. And I would tell you that it did create a little bit of an outlier dynamic. And so if you were looking for modeling purposes for the forecast, I would suggest that you use kind of trailing four-quarter average as more of a baseline.

Casey Alexander

Analyst

Thank you very much.

Matt Freund

Management

You got it.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. We've reached the end of our question and answer session. I'd like to turn the floor back over for any further or closing comments.

Eric Lloyd

Management

Thank you, Kevin, and thank you to everybody who participated on today's call. Please stay safe and have a great day.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. That does conclude today's teleconference and webcast. You may disconnect your line at this time, and have a wonderful day. We thank you for your participation today.