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Q3 2020 Earnings Call· Fri, Dec 20, 2019

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Operator

Operator

Good morning, and welcome to the BlackBerry Fiscal Year 2020 Third Quarter Results Conference Call. My name is Jack, and I will be your conference moderator for today's call. [Operator Instructions]. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded for replay purposes. I'd now like to turn the call over to Christopher Lee, Vice President of Finance. Please go ahead, sir.

Christopher Lee

Analyst

Thank you, Jack. Welcome to the BlackBerry Fiscal Year 2020 Third Quarter Results Conference Call. With me on the call today are Executive Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, John Chen; and Chief Financial Officer, Steve Rai. After I read our cautionary note regarding forward-looking statements, John will provide a business update, and Steve will then review the financial results. We will then open the call for a brief Q&A session. This call is available to the general public via call-in numbers and via webcast in the investor information section at blackberry.com. A replay will also be available on the blackberry.com website. Some of the statements we'll be making today constitute forward-looking statements and are made pursuant to the safe harbor provisions of applicable U.S. and Canadian securities laws. We'll indicate forward-looking statements by using words such as expect, will, should, model, intend, believe and similar expressions. Forward-looking statements are based on estimates and assumptions made by the company in light of its experience and its perception of historical trends, current conditions and expected future developments as well as any other factors that the company believes are relevant. Many factors could cause the company's actual results or performance to differ materially from those expressed or implied by the forward-looking statements, including the risk factors that are discussed in the company's annual information form, which is included in our annual report on Form 40-F and in our MD&A. You should not place undue reliance on the company's forward-looking statements. The company has no intention and undertakes no obligation to update or revise any forward-looking statements, except as required by law. As is customary during the call, John and Steve will reference non-GAAP numbers in their summary of our quarterly results. For a reconciliation between our GAAP and non-GAAP numbers, please see the earnings press release and supplement published earlier today. I will now turn the call over to John.

John Chen

Analyst

Thanks, Chris. Good morning, everybody, and welcome to our call. As a reminder, I will be using a -- referencing non-GAAP numbers in my summary of quarterly results, unless otherwise stated. Let me start. I'm encouraged by our progress in the third quarter as revenue grew sequentially in all of our software businesses. The total company revenue was $280 million, growing 23% year-over-year. Total software and services revenue was $275 million, it grew to 26% year-over-year. This is a new record high for the quarter. We also recorded double-digit percentage billing growth in the same period. Software and services revenue growth, excluding Cylance, was 9% sequentially. Earnings per share came in at positive $0.03 and reported free cash flow was a positive $37 million. We continue to invest in product development and go-to-market to drive long-term sustainable growth. Let's move in the business segment to provide you some commentary. Let's start with the IoT business. IoT revenue grew 8% sequentially. Within IoT, both BTS and ESS, the Enterprise Software Solutions, reported sequential growth in billings and revenue. In BTS, QNX, the largest part of BTS, continued to perform well. In the quarter, we had a total of 31 design wins, of which 11 were in the automotive market and 20 were in the general embedded market. Within the general embedded market, we are experiencing good demand in the industrial vertical. As noted last quarter, growth in the general embedded market has been a stated strategic objective and priority for us this quarter -- this fiscal year, sorry, this fiscal year. There were several very positive development in the quarter that aligned with BlackBerry QNX strategic goal of increasing ARPU and volume in the auto sectors. These developments also extend our market leadership in automotive. I'd like to share a few…

Steve Rai

Analyst

Thank you, John. My comments on our financial performance for the fiscal quarter will be in non-GAAP terms unless otherwise noted. Also, please refer to the supplemental table in the press release for the GAAP and non-GAAP details. We delivered third quarter non-GAAP total company revenue of $280 million and GAAP total company revenue of $267 million. I will break down revenue shortly. Third quarter total company gross margin was 77%. Our non-GAAP gross margin includes software deferred revenue acquired but not recognized of $13 million and excludes restructuring costs of $3 million and stock compensation expense of $1 million. Operating expenses of $195 million were up sequentially by $2 million as we manage spending while continuing to invest in product development and go-to-market. Our non-GAAP operating expenses exclude $35 million in amortization of acquired intangibles, which represents about $0.06 of GAAP loss per share. Additionally, our non-GAAP operating expenses exclude $14 million in stock compensation expense, $4 million for software deferred commissions expense acquired, $7 million in restructuring costs and a benefit of $20 million related to the fair value adjustment on the convertible debentures. Non-GAAP operating income was $20 million and non-GAAP net income was $17 million. Non-GAAP earnings per share was $0.03 in the quarter. Our adjusted EBITDA was $38 million this quarter, excluding the non-GAAP adjustments previously mentioned. This equates to an adjusted EBITDA margin of 14%. I will now provide a breakdown of our revenue in the quarter. Total software and services revenue was $275 million, representing 98% of total company revenue, broken down as follows: IoT accounted for 52% of total revenue, BlackBerry Cylance accounted for 19% of total revenue and licensing accounted for 27% of total revenue. Other revenue of 2% is solely comprised of service access fees. Service access fees were $5 million, down from $9 million or 44% year-over-year. Service access fees were expected to decline given the continued wind down of this legacy business. Recurring software and services revenue, including BlackBerry Cylance, was above 90% in the quarter. Now moving to our balance sheet and cash flow performance. Total cash, cash equivalents and investments were $970 million which increased by $32 million from the previous quarter ended August 31, 2019. Our net cash position was $365 million at the end of the quarter. Free cash flow before considering the impact of acquisition and the integration expenses, restructuring costs and legal proceedings was positive $41 million. Cash generated from operations was $40 million, and capital expenditures were $3 million. That concludes my comments. I'll now turn the call back to John to provide our financial outlook.

John Chen

Analyst

Thank you, Steve. For fiscal 2020, we are comfortable with the current consensus estimates for the company, which is approximately $1.1 billion in non-GAAP revenue and $0.06 in non-GAAP profitability. However, based on the year-to-date performance, we expect to do better than the $0.06 in the non-GAAP profitability. Our current forecast indicates more like $0.08 of earnings per share in fiscal 2020. On a longer-term basis, we're executing upon our strategy of being the trusted provider of secure communication for endpoints. Our customers and industry analysts agree that the endpoint management and securities markets are converging and customer demand, better solution to combat increasing security threat to an expanding set of diverse endpoints. All these efforts this year, including the acquisition and the integration of Cylance are to position BlackBerry as a leader in this emerging market. BlackBerry has the assets to solve the industry problems, and we are already delivering relevant products such as the Zero Trust platform and AI for security as well as many other different products. We believe that we could be a winner in this fast-growing $20 billion post-market. We look forward to discussing more of our plan in our FY '21 financial outlook at our next Analyst Day, which happened to be April 21 in San Ramon. I will now open the call for Q&A. Jack?

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Steven Fox with Cross Research.

Steven Fox

Analyst

A couple of questions, if I could. First of all, John, you mentioned that the UEM revenues rose quarter-over-quarter, but I didn't quite get the details behind that in the quarter. Can you maybe just provide some color as to what drove the sequential increase? And then looking ahead to the fourth quarter, it looks like you're looking for some further sequential increases in revenues. Can you talk about where you're most confident in revenues growing fourth quarter versus third quarter? And then I have a quick follow-up.

John Chen

Analyst

Okay, great. Thank you, Steven. Yes, the UEM product, we just happen to -- if you think about it a quarter ago, we have signaled that the pipeline is still strong. We have a little bit of a conversion problems, that was in Q2. Q3, we have much better focus on converting the pipeline into revenue. And so we're fortunate to close a number of business that we're expecting. It's really general UEM as well as the customer got impressed with the products and the road map in security, especially the BlackBerry Intelligent Security Solutions, which are very -- quite slick. If I say so myself. And so the combination of really a better focus as well as the ability to deliver the road map, especially above industry category or caliber of security, help us drive more business. And yes, we expect to see a continued strengthening of that in Q4.

Steven Fox

Analyst

In UEM, in particular?

John Chen

Analyst

Yes, UEM, yes. And again, all three businesses done well. I mean, all three components of that – of the enterprise software business, which was Secusmart and AtHoc. Secusmart are more government based. We have a number of pilots going. We've got a very committed partners in CACI, which just happen to be one of the largest system integrators in the United State federal government as well as in the AtHoc space. The AtHoc space, we see a lot of opportunities, obviously, not only in the federal space but as well as the state and education sector.

Steven Fox

Analyst

Great. That's very helpful. And then just as a quick follow-up. You mentioned momentum now building with QNX on the non-auto side, and you mentioned industrial. What's the timeline for turning some of those wins into revenues? Is it much different than auto? Can you just add some color on that?

John Chen

Analyst

Yes, it should be faster than auto. So the design win could go into production a lot sooner and go for a development cycle and then delivering the production a lot sooner because if you notice the auto business, is you have to win the design win with the Tier 1 and the OEM. And then they would then incorporate into the design of the car. And then the car comes out in a year or two later. So there is a period in there, of at least 2 to 3 years that you see a lull in the revenue and then it goes up and they ship it. In a GEM market, the cycle to the market is a lot faster than the auto sectors.

Operator

Operator

Gus Papageorgiou with PI Financial.

Gus Papageorgiou

Analyst

I also just wanted to focus on that -- on the QNX progress in the -- outside the auto vertical. Can you just talk a little bit about the ASPs in that vertical versus the auto? I know that in auto like there are several QNX modules that go into -- or potentially several modules that go into car. But if you look at the non-auto, can you compare the ASPs there? And I guess, could you just kind of highlight what industries you're having success in?

John Chen

Analyst

Yes. A quarter ago, we were having success in the energy sectors. And I would say, I didn't really focus on the ARPU or the ASP, but kind of an educated guess on my part, the numbers are probably a little lower on an ARPU basis. However, the volume is going to be a lot higher. So I would think overall revenue on a constant runway basis will probably be higher than the auto sectors. By the way, I forgot also the medical sector.

Gus Papageorgiou

Analyst

And over what timeline do you think, John, you'd see the non-auto would eclipse auto revenue?

John Chen

Analyst

Yes. As I said earlier to Steve, the timeline for the GEM is going to be faster, the gestation period is going to be faster -- the revenue is going to be faster than the auto side.

Operator

Operator

Daniel Bartus with Bank of America Merrill Lynch Securities.

Daniel Bartus

Analyst

First, I just wanted to ask about Cylance. It's great to hear about the new EDR update but can you give us a sense of how much of the customer base already buys EDR? And obviously, just curious how significant of an upsell cycle that could be?

John Chen

Analyst

It's interesting. So the -- in general, this is a generalized statement. In general, the SMB market are more focused on EPP. The very large institution are more focused on EDR. There has always been even prior to BlackBerry involvement, there's always been that tug of war in the market. Is EPP, which is protection, more important than remediation, detect and remediation? So this is -- it's is kind of the ongoing discussion in the industry. So the good thing about this quarter is we finally just put that discussion to rest. We don't -- we just -- we will provide whatever the customer would want. We have the best EPP technology that market acknowledged. And now we have a very strong EDR as well as single in-store. See, the other thing about the single agent was also a factor that customers find it tedious to do multiple install. So we could now do one. And then we order added managed service. So very strong lineup. And so we serve all spectrum of the market, the very large, which have literally thousands of people like banks, you'll be familiar with. And then you have the very small SMB market, which volume-wise is quite high. But there's 10, 100, 1,000 users type. So EPP, depending on what sector you're talking about, they have a little bit of a bias between EPP and EDR. I -- the good news about us is we eliminate the bias. We don't need to worry about it anymore. People want EPP. We are the best there is in the industry.

Daniel Bartus

Analyst

Great. That's helpful. And then for my quick follow-up, on licensing, could you just talk about if the recurring level is starting to grow? And is that a story for next year perhaps? And maybe in general, if you could just give a little bit of color on what continues to drive the outperformance on the licensing?

John Chen

Analyst

Yes, yes. The recurring part, we kind of pretty much maintain relatively steady, roughly about $160 million a year. And then the total number bounce around about $250 million. And so there is a lot of opportunity to do licensing business. So it's just a little bit of a hard to predict and it's quarterly. It's not like a sales cycle with a science of where you are, you could kind of predict a little bit with better accuracy and when you're going to close it. This one is a little bit hard to manage in that. But on an annual basis, you should expect us to do about $160 million in a recurring basis. And then the rest of them, we will have to bring it in as the quarters develop.

Operator

Operator

Paul Steep with Scotia Capital.

Paul Steep

Analyst

Could you talk a little bit about the opportunity into 2021 and integrating Cylance further into that EMM-based product? And how you're feeling about that? And what you think the timing sort of looks like for any uptick on that side?

John Chen

Analyst

Let's see. Very good question. Thank you. I'm feeling very good about it. And the hint is in my script. We work with a lot of industry analysts. We know from their customer contact, which are big and our customer contact, the customer want to have a more orderly platform to integrate many parts of their enterprise software, especially in the security space. And this are anything from the endpoint management, the application management, the management of travelers assessability to the cloud, to the -- or on-premise and so forth. They have so many solutions, it's just not funny. And so we have a very strong platform in Spark that we will deliver the Zero Trust platform technology, which involve and combine everything I just named, including identity management. And so we're working extremely hard. Cylance was a very important part of the puzzles. We now have it. We integrated, teams are working well together. We will deliver the Spark platform with Zero Trust capability for the combination of both management and security that is not only mobile but fixed also. So we're very excited about these things. And we would do much more discussion at our Analyst Day with you all. And -- but this is the great opportunity for us, and we believe we not only have the leadership and the DNA for it and the technology for it, we're early than anybody else. By the way, I'll leave it at that without getting too excited about telling you the product name.

Paul Steep

Analyst

That helps. So maybe just as a final one, the follow-on teaser there. As I recall, you didn't have the capability around fixed. Should we think that either 1 of the 3 options, you are either building it and have developed it in-house? Would you look to acquire a large existing base? Would that be something? Or would it be a partnership? And then we'll say happy holidays.

John Chen

Analyst

Why don't I wait to tell you that. I don't think acquisition is my first choice. Partnership was probably more relevant.

Operator

Operator

Trip Chowdhry with Global Equities Research.

Tripatinder Chowdhry

Analyst

Again, congratulations on a phenomenal execution. A couple of questions. I would like to ask is, when we think about security and especially the new paradigm in which Cylance and BlackBerry are these days with machine learning and using that as a way to proactively deter the security glitch before it really happens. I was wondering, what do you think is the reason that traditional security heavyweights like RSA, Trend Micro Symantec, they haven't been able to pivot themselves to the new world. What is your sense? What is happening in the industry that prevents them from doing something like what you guys are doing?

John Chen

Analyst

Well, Trip, that's a good question. And I never underestimate our competitors in the market. All of those are good company that you talked about that have built on the security paradigm, whether it's remote like the RSA, whether it's Symantec more PC-based and so forth. I'm sure that they have their development road map and things that they're working on. BlackBerry happens just to want to leapfrog everybody by acquiring Cylance. And so we go to the second generation first without even going to the first generation on the AV side. So -- and we see the capability that is needed with machine learning as well as using machine to do the policing and the trapping and the correction of potential attack and threats. So I will only speak to the fact that I'm pleased that BlackBerry is able to execute it. We have the capacity of the dollars, you know we paid $1.4 billion. It was a big -- and you know me well, I mean, that's a big commitment on our part. And it works out. We've got great product out with the MTD, for example, in only eight months, very pleased with that because teams are working well together. And we have great vision together. And this will -- we will be a good player. It will be a really strong player in the IoT security world.

Tripatinder Chowdhry

Analyst

Beautiful. Also, I was wondering, like, do you have any update on your partnership with Microsoft on various initiatives that you had fostered over the last 6 to 8 months?

John Chen

Analyst

Yes, Microsoft, and as you know, we deliver a bridge product, which put all the Microsoft application on our platform in the native mode. So in a way, we are competing with Microsoft because they obviously also deliver in-tune with the same capability, but then we have better security, at least, we think so. And so -- and the customer doesn't have to choose to move away from security to use the Microsoft application. And they, obviously, are very committed to -- most of the customers are very committed to Microsoft applications. So I think this partnership works well for both.

Tripatinder Chowdhry

Analyst

Beautiful, beautiful. And Steve Capelli has become the Chief Revenue Officer. So it seems like he hits home run right off the bat.

John Chen

Analyst

Yes, yes, yes. He's the one who's hitting the ball.

Tripatinder Chowdhry

Analyst

Yes, I was just also wondering like when -- John, you were at Sybase and Steve Capelli and the whole team did extremely well with the U.S. Federal Government. I was wondering, are we building a pipeline with the U.S. Federal Government with Cylance or BlackBerry products? And how is it coming along?

Steve Rai

Analyst

Sorry, I didn't get the...

Tripatinder Chowdhry

Analyst

Like in the U.S. Federal Government, the -- how is that coming along? Like, are we building our pipeline with the U.S. federal agencies regarding the product set?

John Chen

Analyst

We are -- yes, Trip, we are very strong in federal. So just for example, in only AtHoc as a product, which is the crisis management and emergency management advert systems. We have multi millions of licenses in the United States government with the federal space. So we're very strong, and we'll continue to expand that pipeline. So -- and I spoke a little earlier about CACI, that's actually a very strong partnership because they're taking us into the secure communication world in the United States government. And so -- and they have the heritage to do it, and they have the credibility to do it. And our product meets the highest standard for top secret or a secret. And so we're doing a lot of things together with not only ourselves directly in the federal space but also with the partners.

Operator

Operator

James Faucette with Morgan Stanley.

Meta Marshall

Analyst

This is Meta Marshall for James. Just one question for me. You spoke about kind of seeing better discipline and the pipeline increasing amongst your salesforce? And I know you were making kind of some changes to go from gathered-a-100 mentality. And just do you consider that complete? Or are there still kind of some transitions underway? Just kind of on the salesforce mentality, particularly around some of the more legacy products.

John Chen

Analyst

Yes, thanks. We have -- we established a framework, it took us a couple of quarters. There were some -- there was a little bit of a glitch on our part when we make some changes. So those changes are behind us. So we have a good platform now, all now what we're doing is to concentrate on not only executing, turning a pipeline into billings, creating that momentum but also hiring more of the salespeople that fit into that model. And so that's a metric that we focus a lot on inside the company. So we feel good about where we are now, the management team and so forth, and we will go -- we will continue to add -- adding fuel to the fire, I guess, maybe that's a word, we think the way to think about it. So we feel we're doing pretty good right now.

Operator

Operator

I would now like to turn the call back over to John Chen, Executive Chairman and CEO of BlackBerry for closing remarks.

John Chen

Analyst

Okay. All right. Okay. Thank you, everybody, for joining us today. I hope to see you at CES. And let me do a little bit commercial. At -- with CES, we have a booth at an offer. In the past, we put in there sports cars and this time, we have other demonstrated automobile. And rumor has it that we have a motorcycle there, too. And we're going to show -- what we're going to show you at CES is, obviously, the continuation of advancement of our QNX technology in auto, but also to show you the Cylance integration into the car. I think that would attract a lot of attention. And I know there are some government agency people who already wanted to come see and have appointment with me. So I hope to see you there. And in the meantime, have a very happy and safe holidays.

Operator

Operator

This concludes today's call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.