Operator
Operator
Welcome to BlackBerry’s Fiscal 2017 Third Quarter Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] I will turn the call over to Charlie Chen, Vice President, Investor Relations for BlackBerry.
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Operator
Operator
Welcome to BlackBerry’s Fiscal 2017 Third Quarter Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] I will turn the call over to Charlie Chen, Vice President, Investor Relations for BlackBerry.
Charlie Chen
Analyst
Thank you, operator. Welcome to BlackBerry’s fiscal 2017 third quarter results conference call. With me on the call today are Executive Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, John Chen and Chief Financial Officer, Steve Capelli. After I read our cautionary note regarding forward-looking statements, John will provide a business update and Steve will review the third quarter results. We will then open up the call for a 30-minute Q&A session. In order to let as many people as possible to ask questions, please limit yourself to one question. This call is available to the general public via call-in numbers and via webcast in the Investor Relations section at blackberry.com. A replay will also be available on the blackberry.com website. Some of the statements we will be making today constitute forward-looking statements and are made pursuant to the Safe Harbor provisions of applicable U.S. and Canadian securities laws. We will indicate forward-looking statements by using words such as expect, will, should, model, intend, believe and similar expressions. Forward-looking statements are based on estimates and assumptions made by the company in light of its experience and its perception of historical trends, current conditions and expected future developments as well as other factors that the company believes are relevant. Many factors could cause the company’s actual results or performance to differ materially from those expressed or implied by the forward-looking statements, including the risk factors that are discussed in the company’s annual information form, which is included in our Annual Report on Form 40-F and in our MD&A. You should not place undue reliance on the company’s forward-looking statements. The company has no intention and undertakes no obligation to update or revise any forward-looking statements except as required by law. I will now turn the call over to John.
John Chen
Analyst
Thank you, Charlie. For the call here today, I will reference the non-GAAP number in my summary of our quarterly results. There is a reconciliation table of GAAP to non-GAAP results in the press release. In the quarter – in Q3, we continued to make good progress on our financial objectives and I am pleased to report the non-GAAP EPS profitability this quarter. We also completed a number of significant milestones to transform BlackBerry into a software and services company. I would like to highlight four of them. Well, number one, we signed important agreements with Ford and TCL in support of our growth initiatives in connected car and device software licensing. Second, we launched BlackBerry Secure, a comprehensive enterprise mobility platform for managing and securing all endpoints and connected things. Third, to extend our leadership in security, we launched a new innovation center in Ottawa. That was yesterday. The innovation center will focus on developing software for connected cars and autonomous driving. Fourth, but not the least – the last, but not the least, we announced plan to establish a new Cybersecurity Operations Center in the U.S., focused on achieving FedRAMP and strengthening our competitive position in the U.S. government. We will be working with various other governments in the similar fashions. We firmly believe that the move to a software business model will be positive for revenue growth going forward, sustainable profitability and long-term shareholder value. Let’s start with a summary of our financial results very quickly. Our revenue in Q3 is $301 million. Total company software and services came in at $172 million, accounted for 57% of the Q3 revenue. Excluding IP, this represents year-over-year growth of 49%. Recall that last year, there was a significant contribution from IP licensing. In Q3 of this year, we were…
Steve Capelli
Analyst
Thank you, John. Today, we reported Q3 GAAP revenue of $289 million and non-GAAP revenue of $301 million with a GAAP EPS loss of $0.22. Non-GAAP EPS was a positive $0.02. Our non-GAAP income statement presentation excludes purchase accounting deferred revenue write-down, debenture fair value adjustment, write-down of assets held for sale, stock comp expense, restructuring program charges, amortization of purchased intangible and business acquisition and integration charges. My comments on our financial performance for the quarter will be in non-GAAP terms unless specified otherwise. For a reconciliation between our GAAP and non-GAAP numbers, please see the earnings press release and supplement published earlier today. I will begin with a consolidated review of our Q3 FY ‘17 income statement results and move on to the individual segments thereafter. Now let me begin with the consolidated income statement results. Our total revenue for the third quarter was $301 million. Our consolidated gross margin for the third quarter was 70%, up from 62% last quarter. Our non-GAAP gross margin excludes restructuring program charges of $5 million. Gross margin increased to a record percentage due to improve mobility solutions margins, strong performance in software and services and a more favorable revenue mix. As a result, we have increased our outlook for consolidated gross margin, which we see in the mid-60s for Q4. Operating expenses were $198 million, down from $203 million last quarter. GAAP net loss for the quarter was $117 million. GAAP net loss was impacted by the write-down of data center assets held for sale of $42 million. Our non-GAAP operating expenses also exclude $17 million in restructuring charges, $28 million in amortization of acquired intangibles, $15 million of stock comp expense, $5 million in business acquisition and integration charges and $2 million of fair value adjusted revenue related to the…
John Chen
Analyst
Thank you, Steve. Let me comment on our outlook before the Q&A. For the balance of the fiscal year 2017, we reiterate our expectation for growth in total company software and services revenue of around 30% for the full fiscal year. We also expect this growth in software and services to cover the expected decline in SAF revenue in Q4. For the third time this year, we are revising upward our full year GAAP – non-GAAP EPS outlook. We now expect that – to achieve profitability for the full year, up from the current range of breakeven to a $0.05 loss. This is, of course, a very significant improvement from where we have started the year with the consensus estimate at the time as $0.33 loss per share. For Q4, we expect the non-GAAP EPS to come in at breakeven. This assumed Q4 investment in the growth area that I outlined earlier. We also expect free cash flow to be approximately breakeven in Q4. Now, I will open the call for Q&A. Operator, please arrange that.
Operator
Operator
[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Daniel Chan of TD Securities. Your line is now open.
Daniel Chan
Analyst
Well, hi, good morning guys.
John Chen
Analyst
Hi, good morning.
Daniel Chan
Analyst
If you are still looking for 30% software growth in the full year, that implies 30% growth in Q4, is that a software growth rate we should be expecting going forward?
John Chen
Analyst
No. I think that number is too high and we haven’t really given the guidance for future quarters, I mean, the FY ‘18 yet, but no, I think that’s – I do expect, however, to grow our software to be better than the market.
Daniel Chan
Analyst
Okay. Congratulations on the Ford agreement. If I recall correctly, previous QNX licenses had an upfront licensing component for the use of your programming tools and then you collected royalties on each car that was driven off the lot. How was this license structured and when do you expect it to materially contribute?
John Chen
Analyst
Well, this is a good question. So, it’s pretty much the same. We have upfront development fee license that is normally not a very big number and then we will collect royalty per copy as car got driven off the lot, right the same arrangement. The difference this time, Ford has made a much longer term commitment with us. And you know that we are getting the current SYNC 3 revenue, our royalty and Ford is now intended to expand QNX into many different modules. So, instead of getting one copy per car rolling off the lot, we in the future cars, we are going to get hopefully a much more number of copies per car. So that’s just a broadening use of our technology in areas beyond the infotainment system.
Daniel Chan
Analyst
Okay, thank you.
John Chen
Analyst
Sure.
Operator
Operator
Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Maynard Um of Wells Fargo. Your line is now open.
Maynard Um
Analyst
Hi, thank you. Just in terms of the software revenue for the fourth quarter, can you just talk about what drives that revenue and the visibility you have to that? And then just in terms of the OpEx related to the autonomous car and yesterday we talked about the security facility in the U.S., I assume there won’t be revenue related to things like the autonomous car. So, do you think you will go through an investment phase period that results in limited or negative leverage beyond the fourth quarter? Thanks.
John Chen
Analyst
Okay. I could answer the second – no, everything – well, let me try it this way. In Q4, definitely when we startup all the other autonomous car innovation center, the cybersecurity operation centers, all those costs are baked into our guidance in Q4 and we don’t have any intention – to the extent that we could help it, we don’t have any intention to lose money going forward and so therefore in the future quarters, it included all these investment also. So, it will not create a negative leverage. I think on the broader picture, I really do believe that BlackBerry is now at a level that’s financially stable and we are looking for growth and we are engineering growth and we are just investing in growth. So – but we will be very careful not to get kind of ahead of our headlights and so that’s kind of our philosophy and that’s kind of the general thing you could think of in FY ‘18 and beyond. The area of growth is continue to going to come from enterprise. And I think that will probably be the biggest area of growth in Q4 on the software side. And as we released our new UEM product which we told you about and we expect a pretty healthy uptick from the market.
Maynard Um
Analyst
Great, thank you.
John Chen
Analyst
Sure.
Operator
Operator
Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Paul Treiber of RBC Capital Markets. Your line is now open.
Paul Treiber
Analyst
Thanks very much. I was wondering could you clarify the difference between company total software revenue and the reported software revenue line, it’s about $8 million. Is that – does that reflect the license on handsets in the quarter?
John Chen
Analyst
Not the license. We have some professional services in the handset business and so that’s included in that number. It’s a software services number.
Paul Treiber
Analyst
Okay, thank you. That’s helpful. The – I mean there is a number of moving parts in software. One is have you had any thoughts on providing a more detailed breakdown of software revenues at some point? And then also just more at a high level, could you speak to where you are seeing the greatest amount of growth within software and then perhaps where growth is being a little bit slower than what you may have expected?
John Chen
Analyst
Okay, good question. Yes. Once we settle in – settle down in probably a couple of more quarters and get when we have our hardware business truly turn into a licensing business, we will start thinking about how we could provide more details in different buildings. In software, the way we think about it are really now have three pillars in it. We have the enterprise software, which was the biggest and the – all the acquisition that we have made has now completely integrated in it, including WatchDox and Good Technology and everything is now as one unified platform. So that’s one area. The other bucket of really good growth is obviously QNX and the Radar and so – but Radar is small right now, because the way we sell Radar is a very small upfront and then a monthly fee on monitoring and services. So that will come in a little – kick in a little bit longer in a longer term. And the third area is obviously the area of our software licensing. We – the first set of phones we believe from partners in this case of a customer that will be shipped is right around Chinese New Year. So I put it – Chinese New Year, by the way, for people who like to follow it that is January 28 in 2017, so probably be around that or a couple of weeks later and that goes off Indonesia first and then the rest, I have not publicly provide any of our roadmap data done. Obviously, we have to work with our partners. So, those are kind of the three pillars that will give us a lot of the software growth we are always going to come from and so in the future, when the appropriate time, we will start spinning it out.
Paul Treiber
Analyst
Great, thank you.
Operator
Operator
Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Steven Li of Raymond James. Your line is now open.
Steven Li
Analyst
Yes, hi, great. Thanks.
John Chen
Analyst
Hi.
Steven Li
Analyst
John, the announcement yesterday for autonomous driving, what are some of the milestones we should be watching for? The other partnerships have set timelines in the 2019, 2020, is that what you are gunning for?
John Chen
Analyst
2019 and 2020, we’ll better get some revenue. It’s probably a pretty good bet. I am hoping that we’ll get something more in 2018. The whole autonomous driving effort is really to highlight our technology and we have a bunch of services and software products that we are working on that we would like to provide to all the automotive customers around the world. So – and then it will take a little while for us to develop some of this stuff and prototype some of this stuff. We have some prototypes that are pretty exciting, but that needs to continue to harden it. And so we will be working with a lot of the manufacturers around the world and I hope that we sooner than 2019, but it will not be sooner than – it will not be in 2017.
Steven Li
Analyst
And John, the relationship with Renesas, is this exclusive or they would have similar relationships with other players?
John Chen
Analyst
Similar relationships, none of those are exclusive.
Steven Li
Analyst
Okay, great. And then if I can, one question for Steve, I have about $7 million to $8 million in IP licensing revenues for software, Steve is that in the ballpark for this quarter?
Steve Capelli
Analyst
For – you say in Q4?
Steven Li
Analyst
No, for Q3?
Steve Capelli
Analyst
Well, I think it’s on our published statement.
John Chen
Analyst
Yes. It’s about – it’s in the right ballpark.
Steve Capelli
Analyst
Yes.
Steven Li
Analyst
It is in the right ballpark. Thank you. Got it.
Operator
Operator
Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of James Faucette of Morgan Stanley. Your line is now open.
John Chen
Analyst
Hi.
James Faucette
Analyst
Hi. Thanks a lot for the question. Just a couple of follow-ups, is that on a sequential growth that you are looking for, for the fourth quarter, how much of that maybe related to IP or one-time versus some new products, I am just trying to gauge like how that takes a big swap and the like? And then I guess, you also indicated that you expect to continue to grow faster than the market, what is your kind of current market growth outlook in the more medium-term to long-term? Thank you very much.
John Chen
Analyst
Okay. So in the Q4, we do expect some IP but quite modest, not a huge sum at all, not – and we actually think that we could make our numbers obviously, we are – always nice to have some IP revenue. But we think we can make our numbers without the IP revenue and so this will give you some idea. Now the growth rate out there, it’s kind of – all with the placement, I look at the analysts, it all ranges about 10% to 15% that’s where the industry is gunning for in the enterprise software based space on mobility. And I need to do dig into it a little deeper and our guys are all doing that, because we are working on our AOP right now.
James Faucette
Analyst
Great. Thank you.
John Chen
Analyst
Sure.
Operator
Operator
Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from the line of Michael Kim of Imperial Capital. Your line is now open.
John Chen
Analyst
Hi Michael.
Michael Kim
Analyst
Hi, good morning guys. Just regards the federal stock that you are launching, can you talk about when you expect that will be operational, some staffing plans and then timeline to achieve FedRAMP certification?
John Chen
Analyst
Okay. Well, the first part of our FedRAMP is messaging from the AtHoc and we have a major agency in the federal government sponsoring that. Our operating center should be in place in about March timeframe and we are looking – we actually identified a couple of countries – sorry, identified a couple of places in the U.S. for that center. So I suspect that we will kick it off in March. And the first FedRAMP certification will be in somewhere sometime, and then of course it will pick up the rest of the FedRAMP certification of the rest of the product.
Michael Kim
Analyst
Do you think that gives you enough runway to achieve some contract awards in the current federal fiscal year or should we think about that as the next fiscal year event?
John Chen
Analyst
Well, not in this Q4. If it does, it’s only as a commitment to the government and they may look at it favorably that we make that commitment and give them the timetable. But definitely for FY ‘18 which is next – starting next quarter, not the current quarter, but the quarter after. Obviously, the biggest quarter is going to be coming up in September of next year and that’s the federal quarters.
Michael Kim
Analyst
Got it. And if I can just squeeze one more on Radar, did Caravan continue to rollout across their entire fleet during the quarter, I mean how did that progress?
John Chen
Analyst
Yes. They are very happy and they intend to roll it out in every single truck.
Michael Kim
Analyst
Okay, great. Thank you very much.
John Chen
Analyst
Sure.
Operator
Operator
Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Simona Jankowski of Goldman Sachs. Your line is now open.
John Chen
Analyst
Hi Simona.
Simona Jankowski
Analyst
Hi, Simona Jankowski. Just wondering if you can share any details around the economics of the software licensing model in terms of any parameters in their revenue per unit or anything else you can share?
John Chen
Analyst
Revenue per unit, I am sorry.
Steve Capelli
Analyst
For the device software.
Simona Jankowski
Analyst
Correct.
John Chen
Analyst
For the device software, okay. Well, no, because I think these are all confidential to the – unfortunately to the contracts that we signed. I don’t think they would appreciate I disclose it, but it’s – obviously, we like the numbers. So I don’t know how to describe by disclosing it or by not disclosing it. So I am sorry, Simona.
Simona Jankowski
Analyst
Is that about 100% gross margin revenue for you guys?
John Chen
Analyst
Yes, it will be. I would say 90%, let’s say 90% because I assume that there will be some supporting staff in Tier 3, Tier 4 type – I mean, so I say 90%.
Simona Jankowski
Analyst
Okay. And then how should we think about OpEx for this quarter and then where you see that stabilize on a go-forward basis?
Steve Capelli
Analyst
Well, John had spoken about continuing to make some investments and so that will have some increase. But we do expect significant decreases in our OpEx this quarter and that’s still part of the unwinding of the manufacturing of devices. So primarily, that would come from our mobility segment.
Simona Jankowski
Analyst
Thank you. And then just last question on the pace of declines in the SAF business, which has now been declining at a more accelerated pace, how do you see that getting impacted by the transition of the hardware business to the licensing model?
John Chen
Analyst
Yes, we see the uptick. We normally expected about 20%. I think we will see the up-tick because there was some confusion out there that we no longer have phones and that is obviously not true. We will have phones because we are party to this whole portfolio. We just released ourselves on inventory logistics and supply chain issues and cash requirements and capital. So I think – so that’s why we are not modeling a little bit aggressive decline and that I think is the real impact to us last quarter.
Simona Jankowski
Analyst
Thank you.
John Chen
Analyst
Sure.
Operator
Operator
Thank you. I am showing no further questions. At this time, I would like to hand the call back over to management for any closing remarks.
John Chen
Analyst
Great, wonderful. Alright. Thank you, operator and thank you everybody for joining us this morning. I just want to remind you that if you happen to be at CES, please drop by our BlackBerry QNX booth. We have a couple – I think we have three very exciting cars to demo, the autonomous driving and connected cars and advanced drivers assist and functionalities. And so I am sure I will see most of you in between the quarters and I am looking forward to meeting you all again. Thank you and have a very happy holiday.
Operator
Operator
Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for participating in today’s conference. That does conclude today’s program. You may all disconnect. Everyone have a great day.